Nexus One Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) I feel the same way about my ballet. My younger counterparts have fewer wrinkles... and there are a few things physically they can do that I can't (only because a few of them have been doing ballet longer than me... not because of age). In my opinion girls/women that do ballet have the best bodies. I just like that body type the most. (also think Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis) I always had a weakness for ballerina's. Edited September 24, 2011 by Nexus One Link to post Share on other sites
melodymatters Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Judging from the pictures I've seen of you, you're one of those few women that can pull it off to date guys that are in their 20's and walk away with them. In terms of looks men tend to gravitate towards women younger than themselves, so landing a guy in his 20's would be hard enough to accomplish for a woman in her 30's, let alone for a woman in her 40's. I can count the women who are in their 40's that are able to do that on my fingers. You still got it D-Lish! Well.... grow another couple of fingers son ! Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It really depends on how well you take care of yourself. That's what really matters. Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't need to read this whole thread to know what it's about. I have had more dates and relationships after 40 than when I was younger. I look darned good compared to 90% of other women my age or younger, not by accident of nature but by design. Both men and women can lose their looks and become less desirable at any age if they let themselves go. There are plenty of fat and unattractive men and women a lot younger than 40 these days, more so than at any other time. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) To the OP you seem to have a defeatist attitude the reality is a woman's desirability to a man is based on her looks. Youth the second most important thing to men comes into play for relationships and marriage because of reproductive value. Women lose quantity then quality while men lose quality then quantity. Men have their own reproductive value and biological clock and oddly enough 1/4 of their sperm is abnormal and defective at the age of 25..mother nature. That percentage keeps on increasing. However men and society pay more attention to the egg vs the sperm. So if you're seeking marriage go for a guy 5 years older. A woman's prime age is from 18-26. After that its going downhill. A smart woman will hurry to find a partner to settle with as soon as she comes of age because thats when she is at her most beautiful stage and able to attract the highest 'bidder' while a smart man will hold on until his late 20s or early 30s to find a partner to settle with because by that time a man should already be financially secure thus more able to attract better looking women. For the women that honestly seems like a bad formula because studies have proven that a man's middle life crisis isn't from his own aging but his wife aging that makes him insecure. So snagging a young guy when you're young just may lead to him replacing you with a partner when he is financially secure and this able to attract better looking women. A better formula would be that when she's in her "prime" she settles down with a guy who 10 years older. Though the best bet who be 20 years older so he dies soon and she can play cougar with his money sooner. Yes his money because of course why would she waste her "prime" on a poor or average much older man. With your logic of men waiting till to use their finances to secure a better looking woman. I guess you'd have no issue with attractive women using their looks to get men with money or deciding to date only men who are attractive. I'm just curious because most who support this theory of seem upset at the notion of a woman using her looks to only date those she considers equally attractive or those with money. Edited September 24, 2011 by udolipixie Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 In my opinion girls/women that do ballet have the best bodies. I just like that body type the most. (also think Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis) I always had a weakness for ballerina's. Thanks... and I agree. I love male ballet dancer's bodies for the same reason you probably like female ballerinas... strength and proportion without alot of bulk. Too bad most of them are gay Hey, you're a guy who likes to exercise. Ever thought about taking a ballet class? All those young ladies in ti--i-ii--ghts. Plus you get to pick them up and twirl 'em around. Could be fun!! AND, you are straight. You wouldn't have alot of competition Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Well.... grow another couple of fingers son ! Hey I was thinking about you too when I wrote that post! So I already included you. I was talking about examples I personally knew of. I'm sure there are more than 10 women in the world that can pull it off, but it's an exception to the rule and relatively rare. Edited September 24, 2011 by Nexus One Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hey, you're a guy who likes to exercise. Ever thought about taking a ballet class? All those young ladies in ti--i-ii--ghts. Plus you get to pick them up and twirl 'em around. Could be fun!! AND, you are straight. You wouldn't have alot of competition Well, it crossed my mind. But here's the thing: a) If I would do that, then that would mean I would have joined that class for the women. Not sure if that's the right reason for joining. b) I thought I was too old for it. I'm 29. I know of male Russian ballet dancers that are way older, but they started at a young age. I know next to nothing about ballet, so I would have to start out from scratch at the age of 29. I admit, it's a very tempting thing to consider though, especially due to the ballerinas. Like I said I have a weakness for them, probably due to their "gazelle-like" body types, grace and elegance. Those are things I have a soft spot for. Link to post Share on other sites
laotzu Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I admit, it's a very tempting thing to consider though, especially due to the ballerinas. Like I said I have a weakness for them, probably due to their "gazelle-like" body types, grace and elegance. Those are things I have a soft spot for. Weird, I don't know of too many guys who like that type... Link to post Share on other sites
GoodOnPaper Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Partly because it is kinda relevant (being on the "wrong" side of 40), I suppose also the title of the thread also reminded me of the sexism prevalent here on LS and everywhere I guess..... as one poster said, women being continually judged on their looks, do we need another thread on this? Interesting . . . my impression has always been that at least on LS, guys seem to be judged just as, if not more, harshly on their looks or social/sexual prowess. I don't think women become less desirable with age by any means -- could this simply be an overreaction to the leveling effect that happens in the 30s? Guys who may have good relationship qualities but are not the life of the party or some alpha-male jock, etc. start out in their teens at a huge disadvantage in the dating world. Supposedly, such guys are in a little higher demand later in life when women value such relationship qualities more. I don't think this means that the women are less desirable -- they just may not have as much of the power advantage they're used to. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 my impression has always been that at least on LS, guys seem to be judged just as, if not more, harshly on their looks or social/sexual prowess. How did you get that impression about looks with all the negativity sometimes unrelated to the topic about unattractive, fat women and old(er) women? As for the sexual prowess it seems on LS women are judged harshly for that. Experienced women are judged just as harshly as virgin/inexperienced men. Social status I get but guys on LS being judged as, if not more, harshly on looks and sexual prowess? I don't think this means that the women are less desirable -- they just may not have as much of the power advantage they're used to. You sort of just contradicted yourself right there. Apparently they are less desirable because they lack their power advantage- youth and beauty. Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) To comment on GoodOnPaper and Idolpixie... I think men in general probably judge women on their looks more than women, but I also think that that is probably well known due to the fact that men in general don't exactly make a secret out of it. I do think that women focus more on looks than most people think though. Some time ago there was a study done on some dating website. And they asked women, do you mind if men are bald, does that affect if you'd contact him or not. A lot of women answered no. But the people conducting the study played it smart. They had a guy contacting these women to see if they'd react differently to the SAME guy with or without hair. (using digitally enhanced photo's to make him look bald) The result was that when the guy contacted them with hair, he got a certain number of responses. When he contacted the same women without hair, the responses from the women dropped by 80%. I think it's fair to say that women DO focus more on looks than they say. I think it's something guys should not underestimate. Women do look at appearance, despite what many may say. I think personality becomes more important for them over the years, but I think the same is true for guys. For me the looks of a woman have not become less important over the years, but personality made a major jump in terms of importance. That being said I already had personality in high regards, it just became even more important. Edited September 24, 2011 by Nexus One Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'm sure there are more than 10 women in the world that can pull it off, but it's an exception to the rule and relatively rare. Yes, there are probably LOTS who could pull it off... Do we want to? Meh Maybe most of us ladies don't feel the need to prove our attractiveness by hitting on the young'ins??? ...or... we aren't into training?? ...or... we prefer equal relationships?? Just because you don't see it as much doesn't mean we can't manage or haven't been offered... Just sayin' Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) To comment on GoodOnPaper and Idolpixie... I think men in general probably judge women on their looks more than women, but I also think that that is probably well known due to the fact that men in general don't exactly make a secret out of it. I do think that women focus more on looks than most people think though. Some time ago there was a study done on some dating website. And they asked women, do you mind if men are bald, does that affect if you'd contact him or not. A lot of women answered no. But the people conducting the study played it smart. They had a guy contacting these women to see if they'd react differently to the SAME guy with or without hair. (using digitally enhanced photo's to make him look bald) The result was that when the guy contacted them with hair, he got a certain number of responses. When he contacted the same women without hair, the responses from the women dropped by 80%. I think it's fair to say that women DO focus more on looks than they say. I think it's something guys should not underestimate. Women do look at appearance, despite what many may say. I think personality becomes more important for them over the years, but I think the same is true for guys. For me the looks of a woman have not become less important over the years, but personality made a major jump in terms of importance. That being said I already had personality in high regards, it just became even more important. I'd understand how your post was relevant if the claim was that women care more about looks than people think however the claim was that men are judged just as harshly, if not more, on looks. As for the personality importance in my experience I find women are willing to tweak a bit on looks for personality...keyword a bit...then when they are older personality gains a bit more importance than looks..keyword a bit..While for men looks remain most important and personality gains some importance with age. Edited September 24, 2011 by udolipixie Link to post Share on other sites
LittleTiger Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I haven't read the whole thread, but to anwer the original OP - there is no universal age - it depends on the woman - and for some women it's never. Attractive, intelligent, emotionally mature, kind, thoughtful, loving, genuine women who take care of themselves are in short supply at any age! Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I was told that I should cut my hair short. What happened when I got a shorter haircut? Less women showed interest in me. I definitely think that baldness, or length of hair, plays a part in whether a girl is physically attracted to you or not. Link to post Share on other sites
MoreRedemption Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Good grief! 28 is far too young! Women stop being attractive to men, when they behave unattractively! negativity, women who are stuck-up, aggressive, manipulative, unfriendly..etc Negative traits are what make women unattractive. Although I have now reached my 40's and I am not exctacly in tip-top shape, a friendly smile and an open heart works wonders for me when meeting men! Link to post Share on other sites
Elysian Powder Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 They stop being attractive around the age of 25; that's when they usually begin to look for something serious i.e, many average to attractive women dating ugly and average men because these guys cough the cough up and spend it on them. Although, being in a relationship will not keep them from eating side fish if the fish is good-looking enough. I've met some attractive women in their 30's, but their beauty is fading, the health problems are appearing, and I'd rather have fun with their younger sisters. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 They stop being attractive around the age of 25; that's when they usually begin to look for something serious i.e, many average to attractive women dating ugly and average men because these guys cough the cough up and spend it on them. Although, being in a relationship will not keep them from eating side fish if the fish is good-looking enough. I've met some attractive women in their 30's, but their beauty is fading, the health problems are appearing, and I'd rather have fun with their younger sisters. LMAO XD I know older women in their 40s who are having fun or had fun with guy's younger brothers. Sometimes even their sons. Though I now can't call it having fun now since the older woman/his son are now married and have two kids. Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 What age do you feel women start becoming less desirable? About 6am, whatever the age. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Age has nothing to do with it. The women who get worse as they age physically and emotionally made a ton of bad choices in their youth and now they are just wrecked on every level. Years and years of drama takes it's toll. Many of these actually look just fine but emotionally they are just a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites
Elysian Powder Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 LMAO XD I know older women in their 40s who are having fun or had fun with guy's younger brothers. Sometimes even their sons. Though I now can't call it having fun now since the older woman/his son are now married and have two kids. Many guys can't be picky about the food they eat. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Many guys can't be picky about the food they eat. These guys definitely could. In a completely shallow way they were solid 7s and 8s in looks and financially secure. The son one was 16 year old and had a great business. Though they had their fun when he was 19. Link to post Share on other sites
Elysian Powder Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 These guys definitely could. In a completely shallow way they were solid 7s and 8s in looks and financially secure. The son one was 16 year old and had a great business. Though they had their fun when he was 19. Some women can keep their looks. Rare stuff. But an enjoyable treat. Will have to try it one day. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Some women can keep their looks. Rare stuff. But an enjoyable treat. Will have to try it one day. It is rare stuff for aging people to keep their looks. It's not a slam against old(er) guys/girls but most people in my country have horrible eating habits and lazy lifestyles. Though in my experience women can keep their looks more than men can. Thank goodness most women have other factors weighing in for physical attraction other than looks so men have a huge slide on that area. Link to post Share on other sites
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