Sanman Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 That's right. There is no absolutes in science. Theories are not complete facts. Theories are just that, theories. How many times do I have to say to you that I don't disagree that people come together because of common backrounds or qualities? I never denied this. However, many people come together because they see strengths in a person that they might not have and that's attractive. Scientifically people are attracted to other people that have completely different immune systems from them. Because the differences allow for a wider and stronger gene pool. It's why having a baby with your sister would most likely result in an unhealthy baby. So your theory on this is not the only scientific approach. And I never ever said it was completely untrue or didn't happen. I clearly stated that several times and you ignored it. But I also know that people are attracted to each other for their differences as well. And that there is alot of nonsense about "leagues" where a person "belongs" that actually hold people back from accomplishing great things. Or having great love even. Maybe you like to think that you belong in a certain "league". And you are more then welcome to place yourself in whatever league you wish. I don't live my life that way. You also aren't factoring in all the different ways people judge others. I like really intelligent men. But it's a certain kind of intelligence that does it for me. I also like funny men. But it's a certain kind of funny that does it for me. As I said before. I like Jon Stewart. My friend doesn't. We both like funny men. League yourself anyway you want. But what you may judge "equals" or "leagues" may not be how others do. I never suggested that people need to be the same or evenly matched on many levels. I spoke specifically about attractiveness and that is what the the matching hypothesis refers to. I suggested that education and socioeconomic status may factor into all of this simply because people are generally most comfortable around those of a similar background. I am middle class and know little of boarding schools or housing projects. Now, I'm not saying that a child of a barber couldn't mingle with the child of scientists or doctors. I am speaking broadly here. Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Maybe in the twilight universe there are. I'm a female doctor Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm a female doctor Don't listen to him. He's a misogynistic idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
Stung Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm a female doctor OMG! A unicorn! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not wanting to end up like EP is why I am finally starting to get serious about overcoming my issues. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Eh, it's mostly no strings sex. A 22 year old guy who's porking a 42 year old woman has no pressure to "move the relationship forward"; if she expects that she's a nut. They're both in it for the sex, and older women looking for sex are easy for young guys to pick up. Win-win, unless she is looking for a more serious relationship, in which case, yeah, not happening. The older man younger woman dynamic is typically completely different. Meh, I personally only know one girl who wanted a serious relationship with a guy that much older. To most girls here, a 20 year old difference or even anything above 10 is too old. I personally might have sex with a very hot 40 something year old but would never commit to him. The average age difference between married couples is about 2 years and in 25 percent of them, the woman is older. I bet these statistics would be a little different if women in a free society were as much into "older men" as you make it to be. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not wanting to end up like EP is why I am finally starting to get serious about overcoming my issues. Good motivation! Link to post Share on other sites
kodax Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Maybe in the twilight universe there are. I am baffled by this statement. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Lish Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I don't see the big deal about older women dating younger men. Guys do it all the time. Plus the women still look mighty fine in their 30's especially if they still take care of themselves.. It's not like they jump from 25 to 75 years old. For instance, when I was back at university, the assistant director of music was 50 years old. But my lord, this woman was yummy because in part, she took great care of herself. And I have no qualms when I say I would totally hit it. I am going to be honest with you, Finding a single MAN in his 40's that looks good for his age is impossible. If they do look great, they are paired off quickly. Men complain women age badly? Try being 41 years old, single, and finding a man that still engages in taking care of themselves. I take care of myself like crazy- but so many dude's my age look like my dad. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Says the guy who is thinking of going to a poor Country to get laid. Where did I say that? Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Try being 41 years old, single, and finding a man that still engages in taking care of themselves. I take care of myself like crazy- but so many dude's my age look like my dad. You're preaching to the choir, sister! Link to post Share on other sites
Kinder-Horror Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) I only got to like page 10, but these threads always turn into female posters explaining, in a falsely modest and unrealized way, how they are older than the age the men give, but look younger still, how they are curvy but still have tiny waists, how they are "okay looking" here's a link:..... So sadly desperate for reassurance of their attractiveness. *Sigh* PS: I'm young, thin, hot, smart and whatever else makes you all swoon. JK The simple fact is, OP - you aren't necessarily past any prime. Aside from the cases of men whom are younger than you, a guy wont care about your age if you are still attractive to HIM (and all that personality jazz). Some guys are going to say 20-25... but they would date a 28 year old Demi Moore (or even a present-day one). Edited October 4, 2011 by Kinder-Horror Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 However, what you referenced earlier, more risky jobs, and the amount of time a man spends at work, aren't exactly the same topic. Men in general take more risks. Testosterone makes men engage in more risky behavior. And not just in life threatening jobs. Men will do extreme sports for the fun of it that are life threatening as well. I think you know this. Men tend to have harder jobs than women because men go after the money first, then comfort while its the other way around for women. If given the choice, probably all male miners would rather work in an air-conditioned office provided they will be awarded the same or more amount of money. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The simple fact is, OP - you aren't necessarily past any prime. Aside from the cases of men whom are younger than you, a guy wont care about your age if you are still attractive to HIM (and all that personality jazz). Some guys are going to say 20-25... but they would date a 28 year old Demi Moore (or even a present-day one). Of course, the question was when does it start, which implies the beginning of a trend and "on average", I know plenty of women who are attractive well into their 30s or even 40s in some cases but it's truly rare for them to look better at 42 than they did at 22. Again. Overall, on average. Link to post Share on other sites
Eeyore79 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I know plenty of women who are attractive well into their 30s or even 40s in some cases but it's truly rare for them to look better at 42 than they did at 22. A woman who was a 10 in terms of looks when she was aged 22 might have declined to a 6 by the time she's 35. However she'll still be better looking than a girl who has always been a 4, even if the 4 is still in her early twenties. This is why age is somewhat irrelevant - how attractive you are depends on your natural good looks as well as your age. Link to post Share on other sites
In A Rut Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Some women peak early and some women peak later on life. Of course women now have the added bonus of anti-aging creams, make-up, cosmetic surgery, so that will make them look younger. I'm 22, and probably wouldn't date anyone over 28 and I don't see many bad looking 28 year olds. Anyone older is a no-no regardless of their appearance. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 A woman who was a 10 in terms of looks when she was aged 22 might have declined to a 6 by the time she's 35. However she'll still be better looking than a girl who has always been a 4, even if the 4 is still in her early twenties. This is why age is somewhat irrelevant - how attractive you are depends on your natural good looks as well as your age. That's not what the question was, however. I just answered the question as it was asked. Link to post Share on other sites
oldguy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Originally Posted by oldguy Hey! I'm older than mid 40's and I have all my hair with no grey, yet, I'm not wrinkly at all & I'm certainty not over weight. Good for you! I said I'd be happy to date an older man if he looked good - unfortunately most of them don't, hence why I tend to date younger men. I've always been more comfortable with women my age or even a little older. It all comes down to personal preference. My wife is my age & Hotttt She also knows that Peter, Paul & Mary weren't just biblical figures Sometimes it's just nice being on the same page, even if that page is from an earlier chapter:) Again; It all comes down to personal preference doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
oldguy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 A woman who was a 10 in terms of looks when she was aged 22 might have declined to a 6 by the time she's 35. However she'll still be better looking than a girl who has always been a 4, even if the 4 is still in her early twenties. This is why age is somewhat irrelevant - how attractive you are depends on your natural good looks as well as your age. I've known quite a few people who were 6's in their 20's & 10's later on in life too. once again; some people age like a fine wine, others like milk Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Of course, the question was when does it start, which implies the beginning of a trend and "on average", I know plenty of women who are attractive well into their 30s or even 40s in some cases but it's truly rare for them to look better at 42 than they did at 22. Again. Overall, on average. Same is true for men. Both men and women age. Nothing to be ashamed about. I saw a picture of a young Al Pacino recently: Young Al Old Al Young Al is absolutely gorgeous. Old Al...not so much. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Men tend to have harder jobs than women because men go after the money first, then comfort while its the other way around for women. If given the choice, probably all male miners would rather work in an air-conditioned office provided they will be awarded the same or more amount of money. Risker jobs are attractive because of there pay off like you said. But it's also because men have a higher push toward the risky because of testosterone too. Heck, I'm sure male miners would work at a safer job if they could. If I naturaly could burn fat and not have to work so hard to burn it off with hours at the gym, I'd take that too. Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) I am going to be honest with you, Finding a single MAN in his 40's that looks good for his age is impossible. If they do look great, they are paired off quickly. Men complain women age badly? Try being 41 years old, single, and finding a man that still engages in taking care of themselves. I take care of myself like crazy- but so many dude's my age look like my dad. You're preaching to the choir, sister! Could you both explain what your definition is of a guy that takes care of himself and that looks good for his age? Edited October 4, 2011 by Nexus One Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Same is true for men. Both men and women age. Nothing to be ashamed about. I saw a picture of a young Al Pacino recently: Young Al Old Al Young Al is absolutely gorgeous. Old Al...not so much. I don't see much of a difference in attractiveness. He was attractive when younger, and also when older. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I don't see much of a difference in attractiveness. He was attractive when younger, and also when older. My female opinion is that he was gorgeous when he was younger and now he isn't. He's still a great actor and I still like seeing him in films that are age appropiate. However, if you think he looks the same in both those picture I question the health of your eyes. Link to post Share on other sites
Eeyore79 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Could you both explain what your definition is of a guy that takes care of himself and that looks good for his age? A guy who takes care of himself is one who eats healthy and exercises in order to remain slim, avoids smoking and sunbathing, wears sunscreen, doesn't drink too often, and dyes his grey hair if necessary. A lot of 40-something guys (and a lot of 30-somethings too) just let themselves go - they get fat, they drink, smoke and sunbathe too much, and they just end up looking bad. A woman who takes care of herself is unlikely to be interested in a fat wrinkly guy with a beer belly. Link to post Share on other sites
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