Around what age do women start to become less desirable

[In A Rut]

A guy who takes care of himself is one who eats healthy and exercises in order to remain slim, avoids smoking and sunbathing, wears sunscreen, doesn't drink too often, and dyes his grey hair if necessary. A lot of 40-something guys (and a lot of 30-somethings too) just let themselves go - they get fat, they drink, smoke and sunbathe too much, and they just end up looking bad. A woman who takes care of herself is unlikely to be interested in a fat wrinkly guy with a beer belly.

 

Women are fortunate that they have make up, cosmetics and surgery, men don't have this and also a lot of men are stuck in dead beat marriages with children and have to work all hours of the clock to support their ungrateful wives and children which is why they let themselves go. Many simply don't have a choice. Fortunately for me, I don't want all of that, so I'll have no choice but to keep myself fit and healthy, though I am partial to one too many pints of beer and the odd cigarette or several. Also there are increasing numbers of fat, unhealthy women too.

[Woggle]

With the way young women these days are drinking like a fish and smoking like a chimney I wonder what they will end up looking like. Lindsey Lohan is only about 25 or 26 and she looks like hell.

[noel2]

I'm 45, feel terrific and my friends and even ex's say I'm more beautiful or attractive now than I was in my 20's and 30's, because I have a air of confidence about me that I didn't have back then.

[Woggle]

You gotta take into consideration her meth consumption. That woman's teeth are beginning to rot due to the drugs she consumed. Not all of the drinking women inhale star dust but I agree with you. Their drinking-habits and smoking like like a chimney are going to remove many years of beauty and health.

 

The men too. Looking at what these habits do to people is good enough reason for a clean lifestyle. My ex went from a 10 to about a 2 in a few years because of the drugs.

[FitChick]

Could you both explain what your definition is of a guy that takes care of himself and that looks good for his age?

 

I'm not asking for the moon. Just a man who is healthy -- regular dental and health checkups, nonsmoker, slim because he doesn't overeat, doesn't drink to excess, has all of his hair (I like grey hair). If he has really horrible bags under or over his eyes so that it impairs his vision, health insurance will usually pay to remove them (really!). I don't like pretty boys, just a pleasant, kind face. I like someone with a regular fitness habit so he has energy. Doesn't have to be a gym, it can be sports or an active hobby. He doesn't have to be "ripped." If a man is slim and active he is more likely to have a healthy sex drive since sex is dependent on blood flow (if you get my drift).

[cutecatch]

I turn 28 in December and am beginning to feel as if I am far past my prime. I've always been introverted and have suffered with low self-esteem, but even despite that, I got far more attention from guys when I was in my early 20s than I ever did 25+. The guy I am interested in (who is exactly my age) treats me like a male friend and shows no interest, when in my early 20s I couldn't seem to have a guy friend who WASN'T interested in me to some degree. And I was just as shy (if not more so actually) and insecure as I am now. I haven't gained a lot of weight and don't think I've changed that drastically physically, but apparently I must have, especially reading various opinions online from men stating that women start losing their looks after 25, and most men seem to prefer women 18-22. Would most men on this site agree with that? What age do you feel women start becoming less desirable? I'm wondering if I should start settling at this point and becoming less picky.

 

At 24, after that its all downhill. Give me a 18-22 year old and I could hit that for days, give me anyone older and I get bored in 1 night. Very few exceptions

[ThsAmericanLife]

Could you both explain what your definition is of a guy that takes care of himself and that looks good for his age?

 

A man who is the gender equivalent of Dara Torres (at 41). Because that is what I look like.

 

Just kidding... but not really (I really do look like Dara Torres. Yes, I know that isn't attractive to everyone)

 

My point is... There is no excuse to grow a gut or a fat ass at any age.

 

I could care less about how much hair is on his head (that is genetic)...

 

But other things that relate to hygiene and overall care (ie wearing sunscreen if you don't happen to have olive or dark skin... that's another!).

 

No smoking, healthy diet, regular exercise.

 

I've made exceptions for men of exceptional intelligence or character. Eventually though, things fell by the wayside because our energy levels weren't a match. So the whole fitness thing has more to do with energy level than JUST looks. I'm the last one to be sitting on a couch somewhere watching anyone do anything. I'm a doer. Not a watcher.

[wheream_i]

Women start becoming less desireable at the age when they choose to let themselves go. There's no age limit or expiration date when you take care of yourself.

[eatNrM]

I only got to like page 10, but these threads always turn into female posters explaining, in a falsely modest and unrealized way, how they are older than the age the men give, but look younger still, how they are curvy but still have tiny waists, how they are "okay looking" here's a link:.....

 

So sadly desperate for reassurance of their attractiveness. *Sigh*

 

PS: I'm young, thin, hot, smart and whatever else makes you all swoon. JK

 

The simple fact is, OP - you aren't necessarily past any prime. Aside from the cases of men whom are younger than you, a guy wont care about your age if you are still attractive to HIM (and all that personality jazz). Some guys are going to say 20-25... but they would date a 28 year old Demi Moore (or even a present-day one).

 

haha! They do tend to do that actually..but I like it, because it shows they know they got it going on. That can be pretty sexy.

[D-Lish]

Could you both explain what your definition is of a guy that takes care of himself and that looks good for his age?

 

Basically a lot of what fitchick said.

 

When I research men my own age on dating sites, they look and dress like my dad!

 

Some of my high school gf's look years and years older than I do because they've adopted the "mommy image", cut off all their hair, let their weight get out of control, Stopped wearing make up or paying any attention to fashion at all. When I go out with them I think to myself: "you were one of the hottest girls in HS, what happend???" They could still be pretty hot if they paid attention to themselves, but they gave up.

 

In a man, I am concerned with looks somewhat- but I am not discerning in a way that is shallow. I like a man that is relatively fit, knows how to dress in a hip way, but most importantly- I am attracted to a man that still carries a youthful spirit. I can't deal with people that are conservative.

 

If I am reading a profile and a man says he's looking for "a real lady"... I know immediately I'm not the "lady for him"...lol.

 

I do like hair, but it's not a deal breaker. I'm a firm believer that if you've receded to a point where it's really obvious- take it all off.

 

I guess I'd sum up what I am looking for as :

fit (not buff)

fun

funny

silly

intelligent

youthful spirit

not wearing jeans that go above the belly button matched with white kicks and a sweat shirt.

 

[eatNrM]

Basically a lot of what fitchick said.

 

When I research men my own age on dating sites, they look and dress like my dad!

 

Some of my high school gf's look years and years older than I do because they've adopted the "mommy image", cut off all their hair, let their weight get out of control, Stopped wearing make up or paying any attention to fashion at all. When I go out with them I think to myself: "you were one of the hottest girls in HS, what happend???" They could still be pretty hot if they paid attention to themselves, but they gave up.

 

In a man, I am concerned with looks somewhat- but I am not discerning in a way that is shallow. I like a man that is relatively fit, knows how to dress in a hip way, but most importantly- I am attracted to a man that still carries a youthful spirit. I can't deal with people that are conservative.

 

If I am reading a profile and a man says he's looking for "a real lady"... I know immediately I'm not the "lady for him"...lol.

 

I do like hair, but it's not a deal breaker. I'm a firm believer that if you've receded to a point where it's really obvious- take it all off.

 

I guess I'd sum up what I am looking for as :

fit (not buff)

fun

funny

silly

intelligent

youthful spirit

not wearing jeans that go above the belly button matched with white kicks and a sweat shirt.

 

This woman...

[Am4Real]

 

I guess I'd sum up what I am looking for as :

fit (not buff)

fun

funny

silly

intelligent

youthful spirit

not wearing jeans that go above the belly button matched with white kicks and a sweat shirt.

 

 

If I've told you once I've told you a million times...stop talking about me on this forum!! :-)

[FitChick]

I wouldn't rule a guy out because he didn't dress well. After a period of time dating, if we are getting close, I'd go shopping with him and make him try on certain things, then gush, "Oh, honey, you look soooo sexy in that!" It's easier to change a man's outside than his inside.

[musemaj11]

Risker jobs are attractive because of there pay off like you said. But it's also because men have a higher push toward the risky because of testosterone too.

Im sorry, I have to disagree.

 

As a man who also knows a lot of other men, I have never heard of a man who is doing a hard labor for a living saying that he is doing it for the fun of it.

 

My uncle is working as a department's head for his company in a remote island where there is little civilization. He said that he hated his job. But it paid really good and he needed it to provide for his wife and small kids. This is basically the most common story all over the world. Men take risky jobs because they have to go after the money first since money is what defines a man. A woman with no money can still start a family but a man with no money will die a lonely death.

[Woggle]

I think after a certain age people with other concerns just don't care about dressing trendy anymore. Nothing wrong with that or being into fashion. Different strokes for different folks.

[AHardDaysNight]

I think people should learn to date on personality, not looks. That's where the comfort and security, and good marriages come in.

 

Life is not a porn movie.

[oldguy]

It's all pretty relative. When I was 19 I dated this 'old-er' woman, she was 29.

Then when I found myself single & in my mid 40's I dated a 28 yo 'kid' for awhile.

 

I guess I've just never been comfortable dating women in their late 20's

[AHardDaysNight]

People date based on looks initially and then determine whether or not a person's personality is what they like when the dating gets underway. That's not shallow, that's just human nature. Whether you like it or not, attraction to looks is important, it goes hand in hand with person as attraction to personality.

 

Are you telling me you aren't attracted to women based on their apperance? What about strangers in the street that you've never spoken to before? Don't you find them attractive?

 

I am attracted to women based on their appearance, but I'm going to try to give women that I never gave a chance before, a chance.

 

It's clear that I'm not a supermodel. If I want to date supermodels, that is unrealistic.

[AHardDaysNight]

Dating women you're not sexually attracted to just won't work unless you want an asexual relationship?

 

I'm fortunate I'm attracted to a lot of different women, I don't have a type or a criteria when it comes to dating. If I'm attracted to a woman and like her personality then she's got a shot with me. Whether or not I am what she is looking for or wants is another matter entirely.

 

Never did I say that I wouldn't be attracted to her.

 

I just can't expect an Ashley Tisdale when I'm a Drew Carey. Not gonna happen!

[oldguy]

Ferrari's look great! but there are a lot of other sports cars that are more fun, cost less & are not nearly as high maintenance.

 

Ashley Tisdale, really?

[mesmerized]

Im sorry, I have to disagree.

 

As a man who also knows a lot of other men, I have never heard of a man who is doing a hard labor for a living saying that he is doing it for the fun of it.

 

My uncle is working as a department's head for his company in a remote island where there is little civilization. He said that he hated his job. But it paid really good and he needed it to provide for his wife and small kids. This is basically the most common story all over the world. Men take risky jobs because they have to go after the money first since money is what defines a man. A woman with no money can still start a family but a man with no money will die a lonely death.

 

Even men with money go after risky sports!!! Men wanting to do risky things has definitely something to do with testosterone. All the guys I've dated knew everything about world wars and just loved talking about it. You can't really tell me men have no like whatsoever for wars and risky things like that or there wouldn't be so many video games trying to stimulate their excitement for it.

 

I have a girl friend who is working in a crappy far little town to make money...I know a lot of women who have done things they hated just to make money. And a woman with no money has far less options now than she has would have before or we wouldn't have that other thread by FS.

[oldguy]

Stranger things have happened and your problem is the fact that you don't think you deserve a quality woman and that you put women on a pedestal.

 

Agreed; start checking it out, there are some very fine women with some very doggy guys.

[AHardDaysNight]

What does that make me?

 

I avoid risky behavior. But then again, I tend to be "more feminine" than other guys.

[123321]

Even men with money go after risky sports!!!

Because to conquer is to succeed, so they (we) are trained, and to succeed is to be rewarded by women and society. Failure is for nobodies. Whether, it's "killing or making a killing" as one researcher puts it, men have been used as performance machines by society for millennia.

[ThsAmericanLife]

I only got to like page 10, but these threads always turn into female posters explaining, in a falsely modest and unrealized way, how they are older than the age the men give, but look younger still, how they are curvy but still have tiny waists, how they are "okay looking" here's a link:.....

 

So sadly desperate for reassurance of their attractiveness. *Sigh*

 

PS: I'm young, thin, hot, smart and whatever else makes you all swoon. JK

 

The simple fact is, OP - you aren't necessarily past any prime. Aside from the cases of men whom are younger than you, a guy wont care about your age if you are still attractive to HIM (and all that personality jazz). Some guys are going to say 20-25... but they would date a 28 year old Demi Moore (or even a present-day one).

 

I know it might seem like that (needing reassurance)... but we are only answering the question the OP asked.

 

If you perceive it as needing reassurance, then I suppose I can assume you are being catty by pointing out you are younger (in years).

 

All's fair, eh? But I will agree with some other things you said. The laws of 'attraction' are unique to each individual.

 

We should all be inclined to do the most of what we were born with... and not allow society's expectations (whatever they are) to limit our full potential.