xxoo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I am the MOST honest of anyone in this topic. I tell it like it is. Everyone else is full of nonsense. How am I not honest? I am the MOST honest; I don't make excuses for anything but am saying EXACTLY how it is, no matter how unpleasant it is. People just can't deal with reality. Apparently, not everyone has the same reality. Mine includes love, friendship, inner beauty, and appreciation for bodies other than the tiniest sizes (even though I wear the tiny sizes!). Mine includes good men, too Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 What about all these rich and famous who get hooked on drugs sometimes to the point of killing themselves? If they drive a series 7 BMW they are okay in J200 book. Link to post Share on other sites
AmEricanWomann Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'd like to give a slightly different perspective. Most women feel that they looked their best when they were younger. I'm different because as I posted before, I spent most of my youth and young adulthood fighting a losing battle with obesity. So I never got to feel beautiful as a young woman except for some brief moments when I was able to lose alot of weight. It never lasted long though and in a matter of months, I'd be right back where I started. By the time I was 40, I was over 350lbs...I got help, lost over 200lbs grew my hair long and lightened it. So now I feel more beautiful then I ever have in my life. Do I look as beautiful as a gorgeous 21 year old? Probably not to most people, but I do get attention from men, I do get hit on, smiled at..etc. and it feels good. When I was young, Paulina Poriskova was one of the top, if not the top model around. She was stunningly beautiful. About a year or two ago, she wrote about turning 40 and how she now feels invisible. The thing is while she certainly looks older than her covermodel days, she's still a lovely and attractive woman. So why does she feel invisible? Probably because she got so much attention for her beauty when she was in her 20s, that now that she doesnt get as much, it feels to her like she's completely lost her attractiveness. If I had been slim and beautiful in my 20s, I might feel the same. I might notice fewer men glancing at me, smiling at me, wanting to take me out and I'd probably feel pretty bad about it. But because I get more attention then I did when I was younger, because I get more compliments and smiles than I ever did 20 years ago, I feel beautiful, even if I'm not 25. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm not interested in being a call girl but thanks for your compliment I have enough brains not to have to be at the mercy of any man. I do agree with the fact that I am honest. Not everyone is beautiful. I also hate political correctness too. "It doesn't matter how much good you look but what's on the inside that counts" :laugh: No one cares about your insides if you look like a troll. Naive and idealistic people annoy me. People who believe in fairy tales and happy endings annoy me too. I don't know, something must be wrong with me, because I tend to prefer to interact with the less physically symmetrical people over the symmetrical ones. And it's not to make myself look even better Overall, they just seem to have more going on in their brains and in their interests... plus I can find "troll" features very endearing lol. I think you're viewing the *ugliness* of the world and not allowing the better parts of it in. Fairy tales CAN happen, but TRAGEDIES are abound too. Reality is neither utter crap nor is it utter greatness. Perhaps traveling and sampling several cultures would do you good (if you've never). Your view, while TRUE, is narrow --- there are other true views. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrlonelyone Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 All things being equal, Equal personal care, and general health, equal measurements, and equal personality, the younger woman will win the man. It's like the case of a hot young woman with a hot mother. Men are wired this way because younger women are more likley to make healthy babies. It's not a concious thought, but evolutionary programming. That said. When are all things ever equal? A 20 year old woman who's morbidly obese probably does not get more men than a well toned Cougar. Just look at Demi Moore. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'd like to know at what age real men become more desirable. Maybe I can invent a time machine. Link to post Share on other sites
green_tea Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 That's probably why I look so young too; I NEVER partied and NEVER drank when younger. Never smoked. Avoided the sun. I took steps to preserve myself. Drinking doesn't age you, I'm a perfect example. I drink a lot, especially of late (been stressed out), and nobody believes that I am 41. I look about 10 years younger. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Drinking doesn't age you, I'm a perfect example. I drink a lot, especially of late (been stressed out), and nobody believes that I am 41. I look about 10 years younger. Excessive alcohol intake over a long period of time can damage blood vessels... causing them to break and be apparent through the skin's surface (prominent veins / spider web look)... while accompanied by a red or pink skin-tone. Also, alcohol is a diuretic and will dehydrate the body... which has other poor effects on the skin (if one fails to properly keep hydrated and or re-hydrate soon after consumption). Finally, those that drink often tend to combine it with other aging habits (smoking, poor eating choices, etc). Edited September 25, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall Link to post Share on other sites
eatNrM Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Something about the women debating here is slightly endearing:D Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 *Grabs popcorn* End well...this will not. Link to post Share on other sites
cherrylips Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Off topic. There are also poor people who get hooked on drugs to the point of killing themselves. No one said it was all fairy tales once you are rich. I don't care about those rich people. I don't do drugs and don't drink so it doesn't apply to me. That's probably why I look so young too; I NEVER partied and NEVER drank when younger. Never smoked. Avoided the sun. I took steps to preserve myself. May you die young and leave a well preserved corpse. ....awww who am I kidding? you sound dead inside already. Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 You just messed with the wrong person. Sh*t just got real. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 J200 it's okay (and not because you've reported someone). The feisty IS cute, but it doesn't really matter if you're Ely or not. I take back what I stated about your seemingly indifference I was wrong. Besides, Ely has like 39849342 identities, it's beyond double double. *hugs J200* don't melt though Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus One Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I can get really worked up if someone "accuses me of something" such as Nexus not believing that I want to look good for myself and not for men I never said I didn't believe you. I asked questions about it to understand you, not because I didn't believe you. Lots of misinterpretation on the forums lately. Link to post Share on other sites
green_tea Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Excessive alcohol intake over a long period of time can damage blood vessels... causing them to break and be apparent through the skin's surface (prominent veins / spider web look)... while accompanied by a red or pink skin-tone. Also, alcohol is a diuretic and will dehydrate the body... which has other poor effects on the skin (if one fails to properly keep hydrated and or re-hydrate soon after consumption). Finally, those that drink often tend to combine it with other aging habits (smoking, poor eating choices, etc). It probably helps that I'm a dark skinned, non smoking vegetarian that drinks a lot of water Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Unattractive people get ignored. Patently untrue. Whiny brats get plenty of (undeserved) attention. Link to post Share on other sites
Elysian Powder Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'd like to know at what age real men become more desirable. Maybe I can invent a time machine. No discernible age. I've seen young kids(4 years old to 11 years old) with girls chasing them. In high school you have the jocks filling the bathrooms with new girls, frequently, and in college you have the sexually liberated women. Any man can have sex in college - if he's at least average. And the good-looking men have dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of sexual partners during the spanning of college. You could do something about your situation. 1)Stop whining and being all emo; it worked in twilight because edward cullen is rather good-looking. You are not. Acting like a sissy boy is not going to open legs for you, the only outcome you'll get from reacting like a flower is a lifetime of celibacy. 2)Don't carry on asking when a real man becomes attractive.. a real man is always attractive.. Casanova lost his virginity at the age of 13 to 2 very beautiful(and older 19-23) sisters, and they ****ed him because they found him to be attractive. Ramses II was a real man from the moment he was born, although he wasn't instantly a royal; his good-looks, savage temper and his superior body made him an Alpha. A real man is called an Alpha male. The male who has an harem of women and is respected, admired, feared, and served by the inferior males(beta males). Most Alphas are born with the genetic advantage that makes them Alpha(height, good-looks, royalty, money etc)but a few can ascend to Alphahood. 3)You suffer from depression. Any person here could spend a lifetime giving you courage but you'd rather pout and resign yourself to a life of no pussy,while crying to us about it. 4)You're obese. Most women don't like that. Lose weight. Buy this: http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x.do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P90x 5) Interact with men who are popular with women, and for the love of god stop wasting your time with your girl ''friends''. You don't learn how to attract women and you're their walking psychologist and nurturer. I don't know why I bother with you. You're clearly a talker, not a doer. It's much easier to whine rather than taking action. I guess I just don't like to see men groveling for pussy. It's so bloody abundant and easy to gain access to, man. Just man the **** up http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bk2D8dc2Ivs/TiXZQAEGzLI/AAAAAAAAC38/jTTZMwqIICs/s1600/hayden-christensen-superman.jpg You don't get to look like that by talking. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 People seem to forget that younger people in both men and women are naturally better "biological" partners. Once men hit 30, their sperm count declines. And older men have been linked to many contributions in defects in their off spring just like older women have been. Since women have more financial freedoms, they don't have to settle for an older provider type. They can pick a mate with more freedom based on his "biological possibilities" like never before in history. Which is why looks in men have been more important to women recently then ever before. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 People seem to forget that younger people in both men and women are naturally better "biological" partners. Once men hit 30, their sperm count declines. And older men have been linked to many contributions in defects in their off spring just like older women have been. Since women have more financial freedoms, they don't have to settle for an older provider type. They can pick a mate with more freedom based on his "biological possibilities" like never before in history. Which is why looks in men have been more important to women recently then ever before. By age that age forty percent of the sperm is of abnormal/unhealthy quality. What's amusing is at that age is when women's egg quality declines. Women lose quantity then quality first. While men lose quality then quantity first. Nature has always amused me. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm sorry to make a sweeping value judgement here, but not sorry enough to refrain. Superficial traits are almost meaningless. Yes, you can attract others with them, and it's difficult to attract others if you don't have nice ones. Aesthetically pleasing people, scenery and objects do bring pleasure. What really connects people goes much deeper than that, though. If you cannot or will not recognize this - you're unlikely to have a deep connection with any people. I get that for a few of you, this is fine. If you want more, though - I hope you can evolve. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm sorry to make a sweeping value judgement here, but not sorry enough to refrain. And this is why I like you. Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm sorry to make a sweeping value judgement here, but not sorry enough to refrain. Superficial traits are almost meaningless. Yes, you can attract others with them, and it's difficult to attract others if you don't have nice ones. Aesthetically pleasing people, scenery and objects do bring pleasure. What really connects people goes much deeper than that, though. If you cannot or will not recognize this - you're unlikely to have a deep connection with any people. I get that for a few of you, this is fine. If you want more, though - I hope you can evolve. That's all. This is true. Be open to people and don't build your life around superficial things. It makes life happier. Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Friedman Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Early 20s girls have this amazing youthful freshness to them. Late 20s, early 30s are still beautiful in a more mature, sexual kind of way. Past that you're likely to hit a wall(barring hormone therapy, surgery). Sad but true. Link to post Share on other sites
Eve Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm sorry to make a sweeping value judgement here, but not sorry enough to refrain. Superficial traits are almost meaningless. Yes, you can attract others with them, and it's difficult to attract others if you don't have nice ones. Aesthetically pleasing people, scenery and objects do bring pleasure. What really connects people goes much deeper than that, though. If you cannot or will not recognize this - you're unlikely to have a deep connection with any people. I get that for a few of you, this is fine. If you want more, though - I hope you can evolve. That's all. Well said! Take care, Eve x Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Early 20s girls have this amazing youthful freshness to them. Late 20s, early 30s are still beautiful in a more mature, sexual kind of way. Past that you're likely to hit a wall(barring hormone therapy, surgery). Sad but true. Except, of course, that women hit their sexual prime in their late 30s! Hormone therapy?! Link to post Share on other sites
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