Was called a mean bitch the other day just because I have high standards.

[Dusk1983]

Bit of both, I'd say.

[mesmerized]

Can't decide whether you are just lazy or backward

 

Or not smart with a low self confidence. After all, she admits that she has never been better than any man in anything and is not a good learner, lol. That's probably why she believes in all that, to justify her lack of intelligence.

[denise_xo]

Equality never meant for chivalry to fly out the door, and personally, I don't care to vote or have equal pay. I am not one of those women that would have been fighting for it.

 

I would be fighting to be a house wife.

 

 

:eek: Blimey. I'm speechless.

[ThsAmericanLife]

Or not smart with a low self confidence. After all, she admits that she has never been better than any man in anything and is not a good learner, lol. That's probably why she believes in all that, to justify her lack of intelligence.

 

Good point...

[123321]

:eek: Blimey. I'm speechless.

 

One down, 3.5 billion to go ...

[ThsAmericanLife]

:eek: Blimey. I'm speechless.

 

Yea. Me too.

 

Takes all types to make the world go 'round I guess.

 

Sure am glad people with that opinion are not in the majority.

[ThsAmericanLife]

I am sounding more positive because I realize hatred achieves nothing. If I hate how am I any better than the misandrists who hijacked feminism?

 

I'm so proud of you Big hug....

[denise_xo]

I am sounding more positive because I realize hatred achieves nothing. If I hate how am I any better than the misandrists who hijacked feminism?

 

Go Woggle :bunny:

[ThsAmericanLife]

If a man wants a woman who is a chef, bring on the cooking books! Like you guys don't get it. You complain that i'm asking for too much, when I am willing to do so much more to please my man. And all it requires is that he pays.

 

Thats a great exchange. I guess you will never know since your women will be too tired from working all day to make you a nice, gourmet dinner followed by a great sex show before bed in the new lingerie she went shopping for.

 

Oh well

 

Except that, the men you are interested in are quite capable of cobbling together all those things by paying for them.

 

Most men (rich, poor, young, old) want a real connection.

 

You can't fake that. Not for long anyway. They have the cash... they can buy a maid... a cook... a prostitute.

 

A quality man wants the things money can't buy... the things you aren't offering.

 

Real love and caring.

 

Oh well

[FrustratedStandards]

Except that, the men you are interested in are quite capable of cobbling together all those things by paying for them.

 

Most men (rich, poor, young, old) want a real connection.

 

You can't fake that. Not for long anyway. They have the cash... they can buy a maid... a cook... a prostitute.

 

A quality man wants the things money can't buy... the things you aren't offering.

 

Real love and caring.

 

Oh well

 

You have a point. If a man has THAT much money, he can buy those things.

 

Well I can offer real love and care, the problem is there isn't anyone out there who I can develop those feelings for (or have in the past). No one strikes me as wonderful or interesting, this includes all the men ive dated including the not so successful ones.

 

That's why, heck, if i'm dealing with nothing good anyways, I might as well deal with a wealthy nothing good who at least knows how to be a gentleman.

[LynnieBear]

I hate to say it, but the fact that you believe in the Adam and eve story automatically discredits a lot of the stuff you believe or say for me. Your ability to reason logically is questionable for me just because of that.

 

In short, I couldn't care less about the book of genesis.

 

Belief in God and the bible has nothing to do with logic. It's faith. One is not illogical or logical because they have faith.

[nofool4u]

Yes youre right. Im just surprised there are SO little traditional gentlemen in the West. Its the only part of the world, ask anyone from the outside.

 

its not that men in the west aren't traditional. most of them are.

 

they just want to be traditional and want to take care of a woman by choice.

 

they don't want a woman that sees them as a paycheck

[nofool4u]

You have a point. If a man has THAT much money, he can buy those things.

 

Well I can offer real love and care

 

uh, you said you didn't believe in love.

 

and you aren't offering care. you said yourself you want someone to take care of you.

 

 

 

That's why, heck, if i'm dealing with nothing good anyways, I might as well deal with a wealthy nothing good who at least knows how to be a gentleman.

 

problem is, these "gentlemen" don't know what they are getting in return, until its too late.

[FrustratedStandards]

I don't mean to sound insulting, but I don't see any qualities about you that would keep a man sticking around. You seem like a low quality woman and no self respecting man would want to have anything to do with you.

 

I have tons to offer. I'm just being a big b*tch cuz im so sick of all the garbage thats out there. I don't have to prove or justify my worth on here. I'm bitter because I always have so much to offer, and I get tons of sh*t.

 

So now, i'm being a huge b*tch because I don't have to be nice. Being nice never got me anywhere anyways. I might as well tell a man I want him to have money, because chances are he doesn't have much else to offer.

 

Just like how all the other men I have ever MET (regardless of wealth) didn't have much either. At least this way I'm treated to dinners and dates every now and then. Otherwise I don't get anything out of it.

 

Even the sex is mediocre. I've never had a orgasm.

 

So yes, I'm a big c*nt and I don't mind it. Being nice and wonderful, and not caring about money only got me poor guys with nothing to offer. Sorry.

 

its not that men in the west aren't traditional. most of them are.

 

they just want to be traditional and want to take care of a woman by choice.

 

they don't want a woman that sees them as a paycheck

 

At this point, their money is their best quality.

[SteveC80]

It's virile. It's the difference between masculine and feminine, and yes, there is a difference.

 

It's attractive and makes a man look strong. It doesn't make a woman look "weak" either, even though technically the women are the weaker sex.

 

You take care of each other in your own unique ways.

 

And this all goes back to the bible and when God created Adam and Eve. (Not getting out my bible because I'm lazy)

 

But Eve was made from Adam's rib bone from underneath his arm "to protect her". Eve was made for Adam as a companion.

 

It was Eve who took the forbidden fruit from the tree in the Garden of Eden and gave it to Adam. In return, Eve received a punishment of having to bear children with great pain. Also, while she will long for her husband, he will also be her "master". Adam's punishment for taking the fruit from Eve, was that he will have to work in the lands forever and ever.

 

It's not exactly stated like this, but that is just an excerpt from Genesis. If you look at how human beings function, this makes sense that it is this way.

 

Women are easily led astray. This is why men are supposed to set an example, they are supposed to be "kings" of their "territory". They are supposed to lead, not the other way around. (I think if anything, maybe American men weren't being very good leaders, so women had to take over).

 

Men in particular are much more visual. They are better at things like sports for example. They are definitely "doers". It is very rare that a woman can beat a man at anything, really. That's still true to this day. They would have a much easier time learning certain, if not most, jobs than women.

 

Women... handle pain better. If men had to have babies, population would cease to exist.

 

Somehow, over the decades, women have decided to take it upon themselves to take up not only our own punishment from way back in the Garden of Eden, but men's as well.

 

this is kind of also not entirely our choice.

 

World War II played a big part in this, where women had to take a lot of men's jobs while they were off at war.

 

But that's another thing women have started to go after and want "equality" in.

 

Call me a chicken if you must, but I don't want to be in any war, ever. I don't want men to be in any war,ever, but some things are necessary, whether we understand why they are necessary or not.

 

So... personally, I'm an American woman and I think my fellow American women are...

 

nuts.

 

To be blunt.

 

(UNLESS.... again... Men weren't being very good leaders and women had to take over because there were no decent men to follow).

 

That's the only way I can come to terms with it, or understand it.

 

Most women deep down think like this,they see the man as the superior one who can make better decsion and is smarter women just dont want to come out and say it that way

 

Why do u think women want to "look up" to their man?

 

Once a women feels her man is not the leader and superior in some way and she starts to feel that shes better or that the Man is equal subconsciosuly or sometimes consciously she loses attraction

[PJKino]

It's virile. It's the difference between masculine and feminine, and yes, there is a difference.

 

It's attractive and makes a man look strong. It doesn't make a woman look "weak" either, even though technically the women are the weaker sex.

 

You take care of each other in your own unique ways.

 

And this all goes back to the bible and when God created Adam and Eve. (Not getting out my bible because I'm lazy)

 

But Eve was made from Adam's rib bone from underneath his arm "to protect her". Eve was made for Adam as a companion.

 

It was Eve who took the forbidden fruit from the tree in the Garden of Eden and gave it to Adam. In return, Eve received a punishment of having to bear children with great pain. Also, while she will long for her husband, he will also be her "master". Adam's punishment for taking the fruit from Eve, was that he will have to work in the lands forever and ever.

 

It's not exactly stated like this, but that is just an excerpt from Genesis. If you look at how human beings function, this makes sense that it is this way.

 

Women are easily led astray. This is why men are supposed to set an example, they are supposed to be "kings" of their "territory". They are supposed to lead, not the other way around. (I think if anything, maybe American men weren't being very good leaders, so women had to take over).

 

Men in particular are much more visual. They are better at things like sports for example. They are definitely "doers". It is very rare that a woman can beat a man at anything, really. That's still true to this day. They would have a much easier time learning certain, if not most, jobs than women.

 

Women... handle pain better. If men had to have babies, population would cease to exist.

 

Somehow, over the decades, women have decided to take it upon themselves to take up not only our own punishment from way back in the Garden of Eden, but men's as well.

 

this is kind of also not entirely our choice.

 

World War II played a big part in this, where women had to take a lot of men's jobs while they were off at war.

 

But that's another thing women have started to go after and want "equality" in.

 

Call me a chicken if you must, but I don't want to be in any war, ever. I don't want men to be in any war,ever, but some things are necessary, whether we understand why they are necessary or not.

 

So... personally, I'm an American woman and I think my fellow American women are...

 

nuts.

 

To be blunt.

 

(UNLESS.... again... Men weren't being very good leaders and women had to take over because there were no decent men to follow).

 

That's the only way I can come to terms with it, or understand it.

 

You make it seem like all women are helpless and not all that that smart..

 

Men want a partner not a child..you seem to want another daddy not a partner..

[Woggle]

This thread has seriously made me rethink some things and made me realize that with the exception of the hyper militant misandrists traditional woman often have a lower opinion of men than feminists. No decent man wants a woman who thinks as lowly of men as the OP does. Most men don't want a woman who thinks of him as nothing good but sticks around because he has money. We might like generous with a woman that loves us but that love has to be their in the first place. If you really love each other why not just splurge on each other?

[nofool4u]

At this point, their money is their best quality.

 

and you wonder why you have to title your thread the way you did:o

 

as if you should be surprised. you are a gold digger. you want to use men for money.

 

here is an idea, take care of yourself? or is that too hard? because any man that knows you think they are only worth anything because of their money would run like the wind from you.

 

now if a man wants to take care of a woman financially because said woman doesn't despise them, ,see them as a paycheck, or actually cares for their man, then any man would be proud to want to take care of such a woman.

 

but not you

Edited October 5, 2011 by nofool4u

[nofool4u]

I might as well tell a man I want him to have money, because chances are he doesn't have much else to offer.

 

then why not simply swear off men? or become a lesbian?

 

 

 

Just like how all the other men I have ever MET (regardless of wealth) didn't have much either. At least this way I'm treated to dinners and dates every now and then. Otherwise I don't get anything out of it.

 

something tells me you were in it for what you can get out of them in the first place. and once the man finds this out and wants to bolt, then its him being worthless in your eyes. sorry, but I just don't buy it.

 

 

Even the sex is mediocre. I've never had a orgasm.

 

some women are simply frigid. if you NEVER had an orgasm with all these different men, I don't suppose the problem could be you could it?

[SteveC80]

This thread has seriously made me rethink some things and made me realize that with the exception of the hyper militant misandrists traditional woman often have a lower opinion of men than feminists. No decent man wants a woman who thinks as lowly of men as the OP does. Most men don't want a woman who thinks of him as nothing good but sticks around because he has money. We might like generous with a woman that loves us but that love has to be their in the first place. If you really love each other why not just splurge on each other?

 

I dotn know i think this site runs the gamut

 

You have FS then you have lynne who thinks women are incapable of doig anyhting on their own and need a mans guidance to walk down the street

[stillafool]

You have a point. If a man has THAT much money, he can buy those things.

 

Well I can offer real love and care, the problem is there isn't anyone out there who I can develop those feelings for (or have in the past). No one strikes me as wonderful or interesting, this includes all the men ive dated including the not so successful ones.

 

That's why, heck, if i'm dealing with nothing good anyways, I might as well deal with a wealthy nothing good who at least knows how to be a gentleman.

 

How can you offer a man love and care when you have never loved or cared about any man according to your posts.

 

Here's a novel thought: Get a reaaalllly good education, make your own money, and not use anyone but yourself.

 

Otherwise if you want to be a real golddigger you have to have the qualities: Youth (and not over 30), be a 10 on the looks scale, and be ready for sex 24/7.

Edited October 5, 2011 by stillafool

[xxoo]

This thread has seriously made me rethink some things and made me realize that with the exception of the hyper militant misandrists traditional woman often have a lower opinion of men than feminists. No decent man wants a woman who thinks as lowly of men as the OP does. Most men don't want a woman who thinks of him as nothing good but sticks around because he has money. We might like generous with a woman that loves us but that love has to be their in the first place. If you really love each other why not just splurge on each other?

 

Often? I think Frustrated Standards may be unique.

 

For one thing, most people don't have this much trouble experiencing love. Most people trip into it before the age of 18.

[phineas]

and you wonder why you have to title your thread the way you did:o

 

as if you should be surprised. you are a gold digger. you want to use men for money.

 

here is an idea, take care of yourself? or is that too hard? because any man that knows you think they are only worth anything because of their money would run like the wind from you.

 

now if a man wants to take care of a woman financially because said woman doesn't despise them, ,see them as a paycheck, or actually cares for their man, then any man would be proud to want to take care of such a woman.

 

but not you

 

I went on a date with someone like OP.

Took all of 10 mins. in the car with her to decide I was breaking out the Applebee's 25% off coupon.

 

Boy was she pissed.

[ThsAmericanLife]

I'm just gonna say... the OP has as much right to want what she wants as the rest of us...

 

She might be going about it the wrong way... but if she's willing to compromise on other things (fidelity, looks, age, love, etc) it is quite possible she can find someone willing to pay her way.

 

If she doesn't need to be 'in love'... then one could argue that opens up more options in other ways.

 

I think what I, and many others, might be objecting to is the ACT of pretending to love someone... just to get their $$.

[AHardDaysNight]

I just don't see why the OP is being attacked. Maybe I haven't read the whole thread?

 

And yes, some men do want a strong woman. Some want a weak woman.

 

Again, everyone is quick to generalize.