grkBoy Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 In all honesty, it's easy to see if a girl has a man or not. If it's a workplace then she'll likely have at least one photo of him on her desk. If you see her Facebook, she'll probably have a "couple" shot on there. Even in talking to a girl, they'll mention the boyfriend within the first 10 min of convo. "Oh yeah, my boyfriend and I went skiing last weekend." or something like that. Some can dispute this, but I believe if you chat with a woman socially for longer than 10 min and you never hear of a boyfriend, then she probably doesn't have one. Like you're chatting with a girl for an hour, smiles, charming, maybe chemistry...and then you ask for her number and she suddenly has a boyfriend. I think it's BS and she's simply saying she's not into you. Link to post Share on other sites
counterman Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 No, I disagree. A good looking girl would have guys asking her out and I think some of them would at least be decent. An average girl has it harder than a good looking girl. I have many average looking girl friends who have never been asked out before and have never been on dates. They're the ones who will end up settling for the first chap to ask them out, who is usually a friend. I would say this though, most of the good looking girls I have approached I have approached have boyfriends already. I actually seethem with their boyfriends on campus on occasions. They usually tell me within the first 5 - 10 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites
quietGuy13 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I've said it time and again.. : Beautiful/Sexy/Good looking girls either like only Playboy type guys OR are lesbian. I've proven it , like this other poster said, i talk to average girls.. INSTANT nice conversation even become friends RIGHT OFFF THE STREET. Do the same with hot /sexy/good looking girls, they do'nt even say hi and like they vomit at the sight of seeing me. Yet those same girls turn to talk to some hot playboy type dudes and they're so happy and interested. Seen it tons of times happening Link to post Share on other sites
dispatch3d Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Yeah, boy, that sounds rough. If you like a guy and you're really good looking, you have to ask them out and they won't go after you. However, your chances of success are ridiculously high, and your self esteem is also likely quite high (cause you know you're hot, and guys constantly hit on you). I'm thinkin no. life of hot girls is probably not allll that bad. Link to post Share on other sites
xra Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 +1. I get complimented on my looks a lot, but the only men who actually approach me are players looking to score or arrogant, good-looking men who just want to hone their 'game'. I've considered stopping wearing makeup (which is usually natural), but why should I have to make myself look less attractive?? I smile all the time, but apparently nice guys are still too intimidated, and I'm too shy to ever make the first move myself... :/ Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 +1. I get complimented on my looks a lot, but the only men who actually approach me are players looking to score or arrogant, good-looking men who just want to hone their 'game'. I've considered stopping wearing makeup (which is usually natural), but why should I have to make myself look less attractive?? I smile all the time, but apparently nice guys are still too intimidated, and I'm too shy to ever make the first move myself... :/ Why in the world are you shy? Just scared of rejection? Good news: if you're physically attractive and have even the slightest bit of social skills, 98% of guys won't reject you. Honestly, are you REALLY complaining that nice men are so stunned by your beauty? Either make yourself uglier, or make the first move. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Why in the world are you shy? Just scared of rejection? Good news: if you're physically attractive and have even the slightest bit of social skills, 98% of guys won't reject you. Honestly, are you REALLY complaining that nice men are so stunned by your beauty? Either make yourself uglier, or make the first move. I agree with this 100% all the way! I'm so tired of good-looking women in here and everywhere feeling that because of their beauty they don't need to make a move. You still need to if you want to snag that quality guy! Men with good hearts and core values don't run up to hot women and hit on them. It's against their nature. Only the bad-boy punks and players are in it for that. Get this through your head or you'll never meet a good man. We're not afraid of you because of your looks. Most of us just feel like it's going to be a waste of time pursuing you, because either you'll play games or you'll act stuckup and annoy us. That's the hard truth from experience. And if you disbelieve me, keep doing what you're doing and see how you're heed zero results. It's so easy! You don't have to ask us out. We'll do all of that for you, just make a start at conversation so we'll know that you're different from the others. Ask a question, make comments, just get out of your shell already! Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 This thread is hogwash! No universally beautiful woman (great body, great long hair, clear soft skin, young) asks out a man first. EVER! This doesn't happen in real life, only the movies, so I've dispelled this thread as bogus. You've just defined your version of beautiful. You said 'universal'... I'd disagree that your description is anything close to 'universal' though. perhaps that is your problem... Link to post Share on other sites
daphne Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 The attractive ones APPEAR to have a chip on their shoulder and put up "defenses" because they believe anyone who talks to them is trying to get them into bed. It sounds like you're projecting. You come across as having a huge chip on your shoulder, and making it about you. It may have zero to do with you and whatever is going on with that person's life. Or perhaps she's afraid if she engages you, that you won't just have a friendly interaction and let it go at that. I agree with what someone said above attractive women have the best of it. If you wonder why very attractive women can be aloof, it's because there aren't a lot of people who are really on your side. 1) Women will hate you. It's not a cliche. Only the really cool women, women who are looking for a wing girl that will bring in guys, or the other really attractive women are not threatened by you. 2) Decent guys will be intimidated. 3) Not so good guys will try to make you a trophy for bragging rights. Even if you end up in a relationship, they don't care about the person you are but your social value. 4) The mariginalized guys that have a hard time with average attractive women and perhaps not much going for them will still hit on you because they have nothing to lose. All in all, a very attractive woman has a hard time making friends with women, and being able to trust that men have sincere intentions. If they come across as aloof, it's because they have to be to a certain extent. In addition, if you are a friendly person, you are accused of being a tease or too flirtatious if you don't want anything with the guy. Also, you are constantly having to politely reject guys who may not realize that you are not interested in anything other than polite conversation. It can get exhausting. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 It sounds like you're projecting. You come across as having a huge chip on your shoulder, and making it about you. It may have zero to do with you and whatever is going on with that person's life. Or perhaps she's afraid if she engages you, that you won't just have a friendly interaction and let it go at that. I agree with what someone said above attractive women have the best of it. If you wonder why very attractive women can be aloof, it's because there aren't a lot of people who are really on your side. 1) Women will hate you. It's not a cliche. Only the really cool women, women who are looking for a wing girl that will bring in guys, or the other really attractive women are not threatened by you. 2) Decent guys will be intimidated. 3) Not so good guys will try to make you a trophy for bragging rights. Even if you end up in a relationship, they don't care about the person you are but your social value. 4) The mariginalized guys that have a hard time with average attractive women and perhaps not much going for them will still hit on you because they have nothing to lose. All in all, a very attractive woman has a hard time making friends with women, and being able to trust that men have sincere intentions. If they come across as aloof, it's because they have to be to a certain extent. In addition, if you are a friendly person, you are accused of being a tease or too flirtatious if you don't want anything with the guy. Also, you are constantly having to politely reject guys who may not realize that you are not interested in anything other than polite conversation. It can get exhausting. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. Still better than being ugly. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 +1. I get complimented on my looks a lot, but the only men who actually approach me are players looking to score or arrogant, good-looking men who just want to hone their 'game'. I've considered stopping wearing makeup (which is usually natural), but why should I have to make myself look less attractive?? I smile all the time, but apparently nice guys are still too intimidated, and I'm too shy to ever make the first move myself... :/ The problem with being a good looking but shy girl is that most normal dudes think that you are already in a relationship, so they won't bother with you. The players and arrogant guys, don't care if you are taken or not, they will go after you regardless. My best suggestion is, if you are interacting with a guy you could like, be extra friendly with him. That might be enough for him to convince himself to take a risk and ask you out. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The problem is that a lot of good looking girls are egotistical. They feel that they're better than everyone else, just because they have better genes than average or ugly people...so they enforce the stereotype. A true beauty, someone who's beautiful inside and out, is someone worth being with. Link to post Share on other sites
daphne Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Still better than being ugly. Can't argue there. Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetheartt Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 It sounds like you're projecting. You come across as having a huge chip on your shoulder, and making it about you. It may have zero to do with you and whatever is going on with that person's life. Or perhaps she's afraid if she engages you, that you won't just have a friendly interaction and let it go at that. I agree with what someone said above attractive women have the best of it. If you wonder why very attractive women can be aloof, it's because there aren't a lot of people who are really on your side. 1) Women will hate you. It's not a cliche. Only the really cool women, women who are looking for a wing girl that will bring in guys, or the other really attractive women are not threatened by you. 2) Decent guys will be intimidated. 3) Not so good guys will try to make you a trophy for bragging rights. Even if you end up in a relationship, they don't care about the person you are but your social value. 4) The mariginalized guys that have a hard time with average attractive women and perhaps not much going for them will still hit on you because they have nothing to lose. All in all, a very attractive woman has a hard time making friends with women, and being able to trust that men have sincere intentions. If they come across as aloof, it's because they have to be to a certain extent. In addition, if you are a friendly person, you are accused of being a tease or too flirtatious if you don't want anything with the guy. Also, you are constantly having to politely reject guys who may not realize that you are not interested in anything other than polite conversation. It can get exhausting. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. Omg I so agree w/ this ****! Im considered beautiful by tons of guys they say **** like omg I love italian girls yada yada, omg u look like sammi from jersey shore lol. Im like w/e. Then its the girls at the mall that roll eyes at me w/e Im out shopping for stuff especially when guys stare at me like a nut or some **** lol. Its not that easy looking nice when u get haters [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT] Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Omg I so agree w/ this ****! Im considered beautiful by tons of guys they say **** like omg I love italian girls yada yada, omg u look like sammi from jersey shore lol. Im like w/e. Then its the girls at the mall that roll eyes at me w/e Im out shopping for stuff especially when guys stare at me like a nut or some **** lol. Its not that easy looking nice when u get haters [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT] Chances are, you've dated and kissed before though, right? Plenty of guys haven't. You're good looking, and you're also female. Those are two social advantages. Link to post Share on other sites
xra Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 All in all, a very attractive woman has a hard time making friends with women, and being able to trust that men have sincere intentions. If they come across as aloof, it's because they have to be to a certain extent. In addition, if you are a friendly person, you are accused of being a tease or too flirtatious if you don't want anything with the guy. Also, you are constantly having to politely reject guys who may not realize that you are not interested in anything other than polite conversation. It can get exhausting. This is true in my experience. My few female friends are tomboys who, I guess, don't concern themselves with the typical female standards of beauty/jealousy/etc. I have many more male friends - but several of those friendships got strained and even ended after the guy wanted something more and I only liked him as a platonic friend. God I sound so stuck up and whiny writing this...But I really am being honest - I often find that when I try to act friendly, smile, or just make polite conversation with men, they misinterpret this as flirtation or call me a tease. After I've gotten close with some of my best friends, they later confided in me that they initially thought I look intimidating (wtf lol?). I'm not saying that I would rather be ugly or hate being considered attractive or whatever.... But everyone has their own problems, and mine is that I sort of have a hard time having people look past my outside and actually become friends. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have many more male friends - but several of those friendships got strained and even ended after the guy wanted something more and I only liked him as a platonic friend. God I sound so stuck up and whiny writing this...But I really am being honest - I often find that when I try to act friendly, smile, or just make polite conversation with men, they misinterpret this as flirtation or call me a tease. Men want to have sex with women. Sorry if that upsets you. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I would do anything to be attractive. This is what good looking people don't seem to understand. It's much worse being ugly. When you're good looking, at least you receive *some* positive attention. When you're ugly, you receive none. Link to post Share on other sites
counterman Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Why not ask one of these girls out? Also beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You're "average" looking female friends might not be as average as you think. That's the thing...I'm simply not attracted to them. I would ask them out, believe me, and they are pretty cool but I just don't feel it. Also, I have spoken to some of them before about dating (in general) and it seems they have really high expectations as well, almost unrealistic, like a romantic story from Hollywood. I don't know how it works for these girls, do they just wait or do they become more proactive? At least for me, I can keep plugging away and keep asking girls out... When you're good looking, you get away with so much more. I met this gorgeous in the middle of the year and she tried to keep me as an orbiter. No thanks. Plus, some know they're good looking as well and it gets to their head. I would say that those decent guys that approach these girls and get burned... they become more wary about approaching good looking girls, which ruins it for good looking girls who are also decent personality-wise. Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetheartt Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Chances are, you've dated and kissed before though, right? Plenty of guys haven't. You're good looking, and you're also female. Those are two social advantages. Well duh I gotta bf so yea lol & I gotta needy ******* on my block that is just sitting there staring at me but wont come over. Its like he stays far far away because Im so scary pretty LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
SincereOnlineGuy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Good looking girls have it harder? Agree or disagree? Like most, I would strongly disagree with this. So-called "good looking girls" are simply caused to meet more people than do their less-attractive counterparts. From those meetings come opportunities not known to everyone (obviously not all are what some call "golden" ones). SO, "good looking girls" who have developed their minds to some degree and who, as a result, can suss out the useful/helpful opportunities from among the not-so-'golden' opportunities, do indeed "have it (easier)". The problem arises when one's physical appearance is so sought-after that 'opportunity' comes her way before she could be bothered (or have a chance) to develop her mind/personality. It is only the latter who would even raise a finger to try to dispute that "good looking girls have it easier". And of course there is a sometimes-vast difference between "easier" and "easy"! Link to post Share on other sites
ascendotum Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Omg I so agree w/ this ****! Im considered beautiful by tons of guys they say **** like omg I love italian girls yada yada, omg u look like sammi from jersey shore lol. Im like w/e. Then its the girls at the mall that roll eyes at me w/e Im out shopping for stuff especially when guys stare at me like a nut or some **** lol. Its not that easy looking nice when u get haters [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT] I also love Italian girls, sammi is pretty but nothing to get worked up over imo. I could'nt care beyond 5 seconds if other guys gave me dirty looks when I walk out of or into a venue with a gorgeous girl hanging off my arm. I don't know how long it would take for me to get tired of the 'omg you look so hot' comments from women. Maybe when I'm 70. The good news is you wont have to put up with women being jealous and guys having the omg gaze for your whole life. You might have to persevere for another 10 yrs though. BTW what's w/e stand for? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Sammi is far from the standard to judge Italian woman though she is the most attractive one on that show. Italian woman are certainly attractive for the most part though. Link to post Share on other sites
El Brujo Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 +1. I get complimented on my looks a lot, but the only men who actually approach me are players looking to score or arrogant, good-looking men who just want to hone their 'game'. I've considered stopping wearing makeup (which is usually natural), but why should I have to make myself look less attractive?? I smile all the time, but apparently nice guys are still too intimidated, and I'm too shy to ever make the first move myself... :/ There's your problem. No guts = no guy. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Good looking girls MAKE IT HARDER. Hey, leave your dirty comments out of this! Link to post Share on other sites
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