123321 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Just like men, women can grow and mature with age. Older people tend to be more comfortable with themselves, and may be better partners because of it. Yes, sure but what does she bring that I need? If a man doesn't even want to date a woman his own age, why in the world would a woman want to date him either? I guess I could ask my GF but nah. I've seen women here refuse to date men with uncircumcised penises and people defend it as their choice. Yet, if a man wants to date a younger woman, he is hateful and shallow. Who says he has to settle for less than if he dates younger. Indeed. I find it amusing that "if I'm that sort of guy I'm not wanted anyhow" but the undercurrent of anger remains. Look girls, I'm sorry that feminist ideas and agendas didn't work out to give you the "have it all" life you were promised, I sincerely am, but it's not my fault and it's not my job to take a hit for the team and fix it. Ask a question, and you get an honest answer, in fact you get an answer I would never give you in person, but it's the truth and I hope it helps. But I'm still not dating your demographic with a look towards settling down. However, the OP admitted she had the attention of many doctors who wanted to settle down with her when she was younger and now she is complaining she does not. Why are you so insecure that you feel this thread is about you or all women and not the OP? I suspect because the experience of the OP is not at all unique despite the denials; in other news, how often do you see men posting topics like this? Practically never. Hmmm. You also have the guys who used to be all nerdy but grew into their looks and became successes and hear come the women that used to turn their nose up at him wanting to eat from a plate they had no part in creating. I was always a good looking kid, but in the past I had an over developed sense of responsibility, in fact I lost a few GF due to my telling them how serious I was about them but that I wouldn't form a family unit until I could support it. They were either in it just for fun, or unwilling to wait. I believe that men marry women they are in love with, women that that view as attractive, loyal, loving life partners. I do not see how you can say that there is no way you could feel this way about a woman your age. OK, but what does she bring to my life that's worth my commitment? Marriage is a hugely risky thing for men; what is there about her that offsets that risk? What is the reward? Link to post Share on other sites
Sanman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 OK, but what does she bring to my life that's worth my commitment? Marriage is a hugely risky thing for men; what is there about her that offsets that risk? What is the reward? Well, the question I have here is what does a 35 year old bring that a, say, 27 year old would not to a man in his 30s? Are they saying that younger women are shallow and less mature? Commitment phobic? If so, there are dozens of threads that would contradict such a thing. If not and women are individuals with maturity levels and personality traits that differ regardless of age, I fail to see what the older woman brings that the younger one does not except for advanced age. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that (I used to date many women older than myself), but the younger woman gives a guy a much more leisurely time table to settle down and have children than the older one and, thus, has an advantage in my book. Sure there are fertilization procedures that allow you to conceive when older, but that costs thousands and you are still at added risk for complications and birth issues. I suppose if a guy wants to get hitched quickly or does not want children there is an advantage to dating older women as they may not be as interested in children (maybe). Educate me ladies, what does the older woman bring to my life that her younger (say late twenties) counterpart does not? Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well, the question I have here is what does a 35 year old bring that a, say, 27 year old would not to a man in his 30s? Are they saying that younger women are shallow and less mature? Commitment phobic? If so, there are dozens of threads that would contradict such a thing. If not and women are individuals with maturity levels and personality traits that differ regardless of age, I fail to see what the older woman brings that the younger one does not except for advanced age. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that (I used to date many women older than myself), but the younger woman gives a guy a much more leisurely time table to settle down and have children than the older one and, thus, has an advantage in my book. Sure there are fertilization procedures that allow you to conceive when older, but that costs thousands and you are still at added risk for complications and birth issues. I suppose if a guy wants to get hitched quickly or does not want children there is an advantage to dating older women as they may not be as interested in children (maybe). Educate me ladies, what does the older woman bring to my life that her younger (say late twenties) counterpart does not? I'll say this: younger women, preferably 20s, have less emotional baggage than the older broads. That's the truth, period. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Everybody brings what they bring. I don't think that older women are better than younger women. I think that all people, individually, are on their own paths in life. Each person would do best to follow the path that is RIGHT FOR THEM. If you are a woman who wants to pursue a great education, career, or have adventures and not settle down until your 30's, you will find PLENTY of men who are fine with that. These men are going to appreciate you for who you are. If you feel driven to be well educated, develop a big career, or travel the world for years but you don't do it because the voices of some guys like the ones here are echoing in your mind with "nobody will want you," you will be doing yourself a disservice to abandon your dreams and "use" your youth to nab some man. I would predict a very unfulfilling relationship, and life, if you do this. I'm also suspicious of these guys who say that an older woman has nothing of value to "offer" him. The younger woman won't be younger forever. It doesn't seem that these men are looking very deep. That said, if your true path in life is to quickly attach permanently to a man when you are very young and start popping out the young asap, I sincerely believe that this is what you should do. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'll say this: younger women, preferably 20s, have less emotional baggage than the older broads. That's the truth, period. Not all, but plenty of young people (yourself included, from what I've gathered) not only have no emotional baggage, they have no values yet, no sense of their identity, no idea of what they want out of their life, no ability to prioritize, etc. Some young people (not all) will learn a lot of these things as they get older. Some people value these qualities, so these types of people will tend to join together. If I were to have married in my 20's … oh my God, what a horrifying thought. Link to post Share on other sites
Sanman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Everybody brings what they bring. I don't think that older women are better than younger women. I think that all people, individually, are on their own paths in life. Each person would do best to follow the path that is RIGHT FOR THEM. If you are a woman who wants to pursue a great education, career, or have adventures and not settle down until your 30's, you will find PLENTY of men who are fine with that. These men are going to appreciate you for who you are. If you feel driven to be well educated, develop a big career, or travel the world for years but you don't do it because the voices of some guys like the ones here are echoing in your mind with "nobody will want you," you will be doing yourself a disservice to abandon your dreams and "use" your youth to nab some man. I would predict a very unfulfilling relationship, and life, if you do this. I'm also suspicious of these guys who say that an older woman has nothing of value to "offer" him. The younger woman won't be younger forever. It doesn't seem that these men are looking very deep. That said, if your true path in life is to quickly attach permanently to a man when you are very young and start popping out the young asap, I sincerely believe that this is what you should do. I agree that your life is what you make of it. You can choose to travel, be career focused, relationship focused, join the peace core, etc. However, the issue I have is that all of these men will be waiting for you. Dating is just like anything else in your life. You build it up with the work you put in it. No one here would call me realistic if I said that you should travel the world for a few years and a six figure job will be waiting for you when you come back. In the same way, you give up time to meet that perfect person when you forgo dating or being serious. Sure some will land a six figure job and the perfect man. However, many will not. An example, I have an old boss from a part-time job that I used to work to make extra cash on the side. She was 37 years old, decent looking, and a very nice woman. She left a great job in management to move to Europe for a few years. Well, when her job in Europe was no more, she ended up back in her home town. The economy had just bust back in late 2009 and the only job she could find was managing us part-timers for $12/hr. This was a woman that had been making nearly six figures and had a nice UES apartment, car, etc. Now she was broke, living at home and borrowing a car from her mother, and single with no dating options. She was really re-evaluating her life and kicking herself for moving to Europe. The point is that there is not always a great tomorrow and not all of us land on our feet. Do what you want with your life, but realize that those decisions may involve sacrifice in other areas. No one is saying you should drop everything and get married at 20. However, waiting into your 30s or later to pair up may mean fewer options and a better chance of staying single. Similarly, job hopping, getting a late start, or not focusing on your career may lead to a less secure job or reduced income in the long run. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Umm...my point is that a very short man that probably had to struggle with alot of prejudice for how he was born overcame it to become a smart doctor AND have a beautiful wife that loves him. There are ALOT of women, no matter the money, that would not be with a man that short. But this woman loves him. They talked about their relationship and his work situation. BUT... he had to become a doctor first, only then was he able to procure a wife. Look, a guy has to have something going for him to attract a woman. I've seen charm, good looks, sense of humor, money, all of them work. Plus a lack of social skills can tank any one of those. It's just not the same for women. You can be a drooling idiot with zero ambition and a near inability to put two words together and you can find a man without breaking yourself in half with effort. A man can NOT take the question of his worth to a woman. If a man that depressed because of women, he needs to work on other areas of his life. I know you won't believe it but I've been rejected a lot by guys! I'm not some goregous beauty queen. I could get breast implants and strave myself to mold my body into what a man wants, but I like ME. So I can't take the question of my worth to a man either. It's not a fair thing to lay on anothers shoulders. We all feel nice when someone is attracted to us. But we can't let who is attracted to us be what defines us. But it DOES define us. Perhaps you have faced rejection a few times. Now imagine nobody EVER hits on you... or compliments you... yet it's your job to put yourself out there and take the hit of rejection. Not once... not ten times... but hundreds of times. How is that going to affect your self esteem? It's funny because only twice has a woman complimented my cousin. Both times he developed feelings and when he worked up the courage both times he was shot down. Shot down nicely to be fair. I think very few women are capable of understanding the challenges men face. Most of us get it when it comes to the trials and tribulations women go through. Crap it's drilled into us monotonously from birth. However the grass just isn't always greener! Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I agree that your life is what you make of it. You can choose to travel, be career focused, relationship focused, join the peace core, etc. However, the issue I have is that all of these men will be waiting for you. Dating is just like anything else in your life. You build it up with the work you put in it. No one here would call me realistic if I said that you should travel the world for a few years and a six figure job will be waiting for you when you come back. In the same way, you give up time to meet that perfect person when you forgo dating or being serious. Sure some will land a six figure job and the perfect man. However, many will not. I agree with you (it's a miracle!) Nobody can really "have it all." That's a lie. And we're not "entitled" to that, either. But, women and men do need to follow their hearts desire in life. Some things will absolutely fall by the wayside when people do this. I think most of us are aware of that. Sometimes, there are regrets. But I believe most regrets are for things that were not done rather than for things that were. Link to post Share on other sites
musemaj11 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yeah, I see what you mean -- like this old hag, all alone with her millions. That old hag looks awful. I cant imagine how she looks with her makeup wiped off. I mean just look at her arms. :sick: Neither of these describe the women I know. They routinely attract the attention of men both younger and older. I'm sure the same would be said for their husbands. These women love their husbands and their husbands love them. Sorry if you find that so impossible to wrap your brain around. Not everyone gets married or stays married based on superficial values. But, you are welcome to keep plowing these old excuses. Anyone can claim anything on the internet. I have never seen a couple in which the woman is a lot wealthier and at the same time young and attractive. Either she is old or she is fat and unattractive. Come closer... So I can punch you. Damn, you must have such a really hard time accepting your age. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well, the question I have here is what does a 35 year old bring that a, say, 27 year old would not to a man in his 30s? Are they saying that younger women are shallow and less mature? Commitment phobic? I assume that last part was not aimed at me. If SHE doesn't want to have a family, and neither does he, or they both already have a kid or two, well then it's probably fine and things might work out. But there is, as they say, the rub. It's extremely likely that the, single, established, professional man of say, 32, is going to be popular with the ladies. Many of his peers are not as successful or have other issues (kids with other women, drugs, no career prospects, already married, etc) that this clean cut high earning young man does not have. So he is essentially the cream of the male dating crop. He has options. Sure some of those guys will want to partner up and live as a couple, and some will be confirmed bachelors. Most however will be thinking about a wife and family. Ideally they would like to meet someone, date, if things go well, marry, live as a couple a while and enjoy that, and then when things are settled down and the time is right, have a nice little family. He's probably not really interested in raising someone else kids. A few women his age who don't have kids will be uninterested in kids, but let's face it, at 32 or so, childless women start to really think about the short time they have to become a mother and often develop what my sister calls "baby rabies", a joking reference to the natural desire to be a mom. So this young man, who has options, has to find someone whose life goals AND timeline meet his; it's unlikely to be a 32 year old woman he just met. If they date a few years, they are 34 or 35 when they are wed. If they travel a little, enjoy life a little, maybe find a nice house in a town where he can earn well and with good schools, etc, they are both maybe 38. Age 38 for trying to conceive, 39 or 40 to have the first child. That folks, is a high risk pregnancy and it's just going to get worse for any further additions to the family. If he'd met and married a 24 year old and followed the same timeline, well they would be trying to conceive at 30, and finished with having kids well before she is 40. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Not all, but plenty of young people (yourself included, from what I've gathered) not only have no emotional baggage, they have no values yet, no sense of their identity, no idea of what they want out of their life, no ability to prioritize, etc. Some young people (not all) will learn a lot of these things as they get older. Some people value these qualities, so these types of people will tend to join together. If I were to have married in my 20's … oh my God, what a horrifying thought. And some people just become emotionally scarred and bitter as they age and learn nothing whatsoever from it. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Am I guessing right that both you Sanman and 123321 are in your twenties? Maybe mid twenties? A lot of your arguments come across theoretical rather than backed up by experience. Link to post Share on other sites
silvermercy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Hmm... it seems there are a lot of stereotypes (and wishful thinking) that are re-enacted in this thread... LOL! A few: - The fact that young women will almost always prefer older men (i.e. with age gaps of more than 5 or 10 years). Well, some do indeed (I don't). But that's it! It's just a percentage, and I doubt it's more than 50% at any given time (at least with MODERN GENERATION females) so as to make a case. (Forced, arranged or gold-digging marriages don't count). Also, this preference for older males is mostly due to their mature PERSONALITY and not due their mature AGE. Nothing else. Had the younger men had the same mature personality, the young females would be like flies chasing around them (and they still do, regardless). So, nothing to do with the horse manure of older men being better or aging better etc... - The fact that older women have nothing to offer to men their age. Really? This is hypocritical (for obvious reasons) and silly. Men who are married to those women would be the first to come to their defense. Because if that was the case, we would have an immense amount of old men divorcing their wives and going for their younger version. But they don't. In fact, most divorces are, according to official stats, instigated by women (could it be that after a while they can't stand the large age gap and living the rest of their lives with a grandpa? Second, sperm counts decline with age as well and many times at a rate faster than a woman's fertility (see all those scientific articles about male infertility for reference). So, it's not just doom and gloom for older women, it's for older men, too. Edited October 24, 2011 by silvermercy Link to post Share on other sites
Mystique2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm seriously wondering about this now because it looks like a trend as I'm getting older and its not right When I was in my 20s guys my age and older couldn't wait to see me and call me every other day with new plans, etc. Of course I knew that it was my looks that attracted them. I'm blonde, green eyes, 5'4 and fit But things have started shifting since I turned 30 especially if a guy finds out about that I'm 35 now btw but am still looking pretty good I think, no kids, and never married with a career as rehab nurse. I'm trying to understand what's the problem here because these guys never say anything other than take me out for a few dates, make out, try to sleep with me, but when I tell them about wanting to settle down, have a family soon, they take off. Again people, when I was in my 20s men tried to get serious with me, but now it's the complete opposite since I'm older and I'm getting worried Have you read "Why men marry bitches?" Announcing that you want to get married and have kids doesn't work. She says that men will think that you're just trying to find someone to fill the position and that you're more in love with the idea of settling down versus actually loving who they are. That you're willing to marry anyone that asks. Men don't like to be pressured into marriage, and want a say in it. Logically, it makes sense that for a woman to state her intentions. Even in my experience, saying what you want when you're getting to know somebody doesn't get the results you want. Even asking questions like "What are your intentions?" or "I don't want to waste my time" can scare a man off. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Have you read "Why men marry bitches?" Announcing that you want to get married and have kids doesn't work. She says that men will think that you're just trying to find someone to fill the position and that you're more in love with the idea of settling down versus actually loving who they are. That you're willing to marry anyone that asks. Men don't like to be pressured into marriage, and want a say in it. Logically, it makes sense that for a woman to state her intentions. Even in my experience, saying what you want when you're getting to know somebody doesn't get the results you want. Even asking questions like "What are your intentions?" or "I don't want to waste my time" can scare a man off. This is very true. Men want somebody that loves them and not somebody who wants to use them as a prop for some wedding fantasy. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Am I guessing right that both you Sanman and 123321 are in your twenties? Maybe mid twenties? A lot of your arguments come across theoretical rather than backed up by experience. Well that was a really great guess, but it's wrong. I'm mid-40s, current GF was 21 when we met, 22 now. Previous was 25, before that was 23, before that was 30. Before her, 29, and so on. I don't care about age as such but women over 30 that I have met always have either kids already, or an agenda to make some, or both. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 So this young man, who has options, has to find someone whose life goals AND timeline meet his; it's unlikely to be a 32 year old woman he just met. If they date a few years, they are 34 or 35 when they are wed. If they travel a little, enjoy life a little, maybe find a nice house in a town where he can earn well and with good schools, etc, they are both maybe 38. Age 38 for trying to conceive, 39 or 40 to have the first child. That folks, is a high risk pregnancy and it's just going to get worse for any further additions to the family. If he'd met and married a 24 year old and followed the same timeline, well they would be trying to conceive at 30, and finished with having kids well before she is 40. The guy is aging right along with the woman. He might not have the same pregnancy risk, but he has the same risk of "parenting a teenager at 60". I've known more than one guy mid 30s looking for a woman ready to settle down and have kids---not still in school, still working on her career, wanting to travel first, etc. It really depends on the the individuals. Link to post Share on other sites
silvermercy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Well that was a really great guess, but it's wrong. I'm mid-40s, current GF was 21 when we met, 22 now. Previous was 25, before that was 23, before that was 30. Before her, 29, and so on. I don't care about age as such but women over 30 that I have met always have either kids already, or an agenda to make some, or both. I think that's just because of the women YOU pick. I'm close to 30 and have no kids for example and neither do any of my friends, relatives of similar age. Obviously those relationships with younger women didn't last either, so sorry to say that, but who's to say this one you have now will? I'm just a stranger from the vast depths of the internet, so forgive me, but I still doubt it. Unless you both don't care about long-term relationships of course. (Also, for your sake I hope it's not because you shower those girls with gifts/promises or anything...) I'm also with xxoo, if you want to have a teenager in your mid-60s... Edited October 24, 2011 by silvermercy Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I assume that last part was not aimed at me. If SHE doesn't want to have a family, and neither does he, or they both already have a kid or two, well then it's probably fine and things might work out. But there is, as they say, the rub. It's extremely likely that the, single, established, professional man of say, 32, is going to be popular with the ladies. Many of his peers are not as successful or have other issues (kids with other women, drugs, no career prospects, already married, etc) that this clean cut high earning young man does not have. So he is essentially the cream of the male dating crop. He has options. Sure some of those guys will want to partner up and live as a couple, and some will be confirmed bachelors. Most however will be thinking about a wife and family. Ideally they would like to meet someone, date, if things go well, marry, live as a couple a while and enjoy that, and then when things are settled down and the time is right, have a nice little family. He's probably not really interested in raising someone else kids. A few women his age who don't have kids will be uninterested in kids, but let's face it, at 32 or so, childless women start to really think about the short time they have to become a mother and often develop what my sister calls "baby rabies", a joking reference to the natural desire to be a mom. So this young man, who has options, has to find someone whose life goals AND timeline meet his; it's unlikely to be a 32 year old woman he just met. If they date a few years, they are 34 or 35 when they are wed. If they travel a little, enjoy life a little, maybe find a nice house in a town where he can earn well and with good schools, etc, they are both maybe 38. Age 38 for trying to conceive, 39 or 40 to have the first child. That folks, is a high risk pregnancy and it's just going to get worse for any further additions to the family. If he'd met and married a 24 year old and followed the same timeline, well they would be trying to conceive at 30, and finished with having kids well before she is 40. This all depends on whether they even want to have children. A lot of couples don't these days. Too expensive. If neither wants kids, none of the above matters. Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 This all depends on whether they even want to have children. A lot of couples don't these days. Too expensive. If neither wants kids, none of the above matters. Yeah, that would be the part where I said and you quoted me: "A few women his age who don't have kids will be uninterested in kids ..." Link to post Share on other sites
123321 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I've known more than one guy mid 30s looking for a woman ready to settle down and have kids---not still in school, still working on her career, wanting to travel first, etc. It really depends on the the individuals. Sure, me too, that's pretty normal. Many of them seem to prefer a woman in her middle 20s, however. I think that's just because of the women YOU pick. I'm close to 30 and have no kids for example and neither do any of my friends, relatives of similar age. Obviously those relationships with younger women didn't last .... No, not yet, and honestly I'm not worried about that. If it lasts great, if not well OK, there is always tomorrow. GTG, GF is calling me to come "rest" with her. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 As I stated, this is not what I find in my peer group. I find that after 25, both the men and women took dating more seriously and started looking to settle down. Now, most did not get married before 30, but they had been dating their SO for up to 5 years before marriage. So, while you say people did not settle down, that may be true here as well. However, these people are not single either. I am in my late twenties and my gf is in her mid twenties. I don't plan to get married before I am 30 and she is in her late twenties. She doesn't either. However, neither of us considers the other to be non-serious. Getting married at 3o-35 and being single (not in a relationship) at 3o-35 are different things. Most of my friends are getting married BEFORE the girls hit the big 3-0 (four 29 year old brides this year alone). Most of my friends (we're around the same age, I think, and most of my friends are a bit older than I am) are single --- men and women --- and in their late 20s and early 30s. Some are married, and of those who are married, some got married very young (early 20s, right after college) and some are just getting married (those all seem to be over 30). All the weddings I've been to, the bride was either under 25 or over 30. But, again, we're both just speaking of anecdotal experiences. Except for the couples who'd already joined finances, been living together, and basically married, I don't know anyone who stayed together for more than 2 years before they got engaged/married/bought a house/joined finances and then had a relationship that "made it" to marriage; those 5 year relationships would really raise an eyebrow for me. A lot of it depends upon your social circle. I agree that your life is what you make of it. You can choose to travel, be career focused, relationship focused, join the peace core, etc. However, the issue I have is that all of these men will be waiting for you. Dating is just like anything else in your life. You build it up with the work you put in it. No one here would call me realistic if I said that you should travel the world for a few years and a six figure job will be waiting for you when you come back. In the same way, you give up time to meet that perfect person when you forgo dating or being serious. Sure some will land a six figure job and the perfect man. However, many will not. While I agree with you and Mme. Chaucer that you cannot have it all, I still think (and have experienced) that doing things that make your life better, happier, and more successful in general is often the way to better dating success, even for women. I'd even go so far to say: If women rely on their youth and looks, they are not going to get the best partner they can get. Thus, working on yourself is important for women too! For me, I would never have met my current partner if I hadn't had a few years abroad---bad dating years in some ways, yes, though I always made due, but great for me as a person---and become who I am. Sometimes job hopping is the same. Sanman, I know you believe in the "slow and steady" path, and that's lovely, but it fails for people every day too. There is no surefire path to success; that's a lie. My path, in my career and my love life, has never been slow and steady, and I'm very happy with both---and, in fact, I tried slow and steady, and it made me miserable. If I'd stayed in my original career field, working my way up, I wouldn't have the job security or success I have now, and I wouldn't be the person I am now, with all the skills to survive whatever comes. Just one data point, but the point is: It's a myth, this slow and steady investment thing. The real investment is in making yourself into someone you love and crafting a life you love to live. If you do that, everything else will fall into place. Never take the hypothetically "smart" move; instead, know yourself and take the move that's smart for you. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Sure, me too, that's pretty normal. Many of them seem to prefer a woman in her middle 20s, however. Some, yes. But those serious about settling down and starting a family soon look for a woman equally serious about those things. Most women in their mid 20s aren't there yet. Link to post Share on other sites
silvermercy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) No, not yet, and honestly I'm not worried about that. If it lasts great, if not well OK, there is always tomorrow. GTG, GF is calling me to come "rest" with her. That's great. It just seemed you were differentiating between relationships with women in their 20s and with those more than 30+ in terms of success. But obviously there was no difference. Also, I was talking about men who definitely want serious long-term relationships. (You said you're not worried, so that means you don't mind so much if there's a serious relationship out of this or not. So I hope your gf is on the same page). The relationship-oriented men I'm talking about are those who usually look for women closer to their age because for them the equation is usually personality > youth = successful long-term relationships. Edited October 24, 2011 by silvermercy Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well that was a really great guess, but it's wrong. I'm mid-40s, current GF was 21 when we met, 22 now. Previous was 25, before that was 23, before that was 30. Before her, 29, and so on. I don't care about age as such but women over 30 that I have met always have either kids already, or an agenda to make some, or both. It sounds like your priority, though you say it's not, is simply having a young hot girlfriend at all times. I guess that's okay if it's what floats your boat - to a point. Are you trading out frequently to maintain your requirement that you have a girlfriend who is under 30 years old? That seems like using people. Or perhaps you are dumped frequently as each one of your parade of girlfriends comes to the realization that there is no long term potential with you? I notice that the older you get, the younger your girlfriends get. I'd be interested to see how your pattern plays out as you continue to age. Looks like you'll be the aged geezer with the hot young thing doting on him. Hope you have a lot of money! Link to post Share on other sites
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