Do men avoid settling as women get older?

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Sanman

I accept that the guy with a better salary will have more options. Can you accept that the younger woman will have more options?

 

You live the reality you create for yourself. I think that's proven time and time again on this site with both men and women that come here expressing dating trouble. It's the choices they make and the attitudes they have that determine their path more then anything else.

 

I get it. Women are less then you. That's the choice you've made about women. That's not the choice I made.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

hi pot, i'm kettle.

 

Umm, I've dated all kinds of men with all kinds of salaries.

[Sanman]

You live the reality you create for yourself. I think that's proven time and time again on this site with both men and women that come here expressing dating trouble. It's the choices they make and the attitudes they have that determine their path more then anything else.

 

I get it. Women are less then you. That's the choice you've made about women. That's not the choice I made.

 

 

Yes, I get it. You believe all men believe that. The truth is that you think men are less than you. I have yet see you consider a man here reasonable, which likely makes you the unreasonable one.

 

I can live the reality that I am Brad Pitt, but that does not make it so. My bank assures me that I do not have millions in my account and women assure me I do not look similar. However, I will continue to believe this as I live the reality I create. What ridiculousness you spew.

[123321]

That ED beginning at 35 may not be entirely due to just physical reasons, though. Using another example, I read that men's so-called "midlife-crisis" is not because of THEIR age, but because of their WIFE's age.

 

i know it's hard to believe, but it's not all about you.

 

Interestingly enough, she's right on the "midlife crisis" thing, not sure about the ED deal. Apparently men are wired at least partially to stay with a woman as long as she is fertile, and the age of onset of the male "midlife crisis" (such a stupid term) was closely linked to the onset of menopause in their mate and had little to do with their own age.

 

Also the research I read noted with interest that men who were not paired off seldom demonstrated any increase of the "MC" behaviors.

 

 

 

I married a supposed "poor but loving" man 3 years my senior, I'm now stuck paying him hefty alimony for life and he's living with a woman 22 years my junior.

 

Well if he'd been 15 years your senior I'd wager you'd have had a better chance of still being married.

 

 

 

Either way, you don't get to hear their real thoughts, whereas here you do. So when men say that looks, youth and beauty are the most important thing and almost every man bangs other women on the side - even if it's just in their minds - it makes you wonder if it's worth investing in a relationship or even building a future with kids etc. What for if the man leaves you for a younger woman or cheats on you as soon as you hit your 40th or 50th birthday?

 

Just for starting the relationship, I have no problem with being with an older woman who I have a history with and who is the mother of our children, I actually LIKE that idea. But I'm not going to ask an older woman out on a date. Two different things.

 

 

 

Had the OP asked whether I or another specific poster might date her is a different question from why she does not get as much attention from men in general now.

 

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So my question here is how many of the women that don't want to be judged solely or largely on looks are willing to give up being wooed and taken out by men and to contribute equally throughout a relationship (not just financially, but to also win your man rather than just be won over)?[/Quote]

 

*crickets*

Edited October 26, 2011 by 123321
Fixed broken tag

[thatone]

Umm, I've dated all kinds of men with all kinds of salaries.

 

try reading what you posted again...

 

Women do judge men now more for their looks then in previous generations because women have the luxury to do so now.

 

......

 

 

Men that place importance on things like age are not good investments for women. Even younger ones.

 

has nothing to do with money.

 

you might look at the statistics on your self proclaimed luxury of applying double standards...

 

http://biblenews1.com/marriage/marriags.htm#Females

 

couldn't find a better source but feel free to find different, they claim it was compiled from census data.

 

in their own words "the number of unmarried women will soon surpass the number of married women".

[soserious1]

123321,

 

If my husband had been 15 years my senior I might well be a widow now or worse, stuck at home providing nursing care to a fragile elderly man.

 

No, I guess this way is better,being alone is actually better than being married, I don't have to cook or clean, I don't have to ask permission to do things, I don't have to flatter or cater to a husband's ego and I don't have to worry that I'll get stuck providing physical care taking to him or his parents both of whom are still living and in their 80's. Cause that care of the elderly thing? that burden still falls primarily on women and frankly I'm not interested in giving up my life to do it.

[musemaj11]

My best friend and I would also love to have a "reverse harem" each (I think that's how it's called) which would be full of 6-packed men of all varieties! They would know about each other of course (as we honor honesty) and they'd be happy about it, too! LOL Ah... maybe in my next life...

If you are super rich like Madonna and can afford it, I dont see why you can't have that dream.

 

This is true, even I as an somewhat older woman agree with this. Of course, the 40year old fit, well-maintained woman will look better than a chubby, ugly 20year old, BUT, all things being equal, the 25year old supermodel looks better than the 40year old version of herself.

 

Here's an interesting article about how aging is not just about wrinkles, which is why no amount of botox will make a 40year old look 20 ever again, but it's about the bone structure as well.

I have great respect for realistic and logical women like you.

 

Here's the question .. having admitted & accepted these facts why do people get so angry when women like myself then choose to remain alone rather than accept one of the few remaining guys who'd be willing "settle" for us?

In our society, there is still a prevalent belief that women suffer more from singlehood than men. So people take extra pity on single women and try to help them even if they dont need the help.

 

That ED beginning at 35 may not be entirely due to just physical reasons, though. Using another example, I read that men's so-called "midlife-crisis" is not because of THEIR age, but because of their WIFE's age. in other words, the older the woman on his side gets (and looks) the less attracted he feels to her, becomes depressed and tries to regain his youth (and getting younger women) by doing "youthful" things like buying a fast car or whatever else the cliche is. Like I said, google the "coolidge effect".

Wow, even though as a man Im a living evidence of the Coolidge Effect, but its very interesting to read the scientific explanation on the subject.

 

There may be men out there who truly love their women and love the strong bond and "what they have between them", but they are NOT the majority. Real life delivers enough valid evidence for that. Who do men turn their head for? the young hot 20year old or the old 50year old? Who do most men, if they do, have affairs with? the homely, motherly 50year old secretary or the hot young co-worker?

 

A man is only as faithful as his options? I believe this to be true for the majority of men.

Im a believer of PEOPLE IN GENERAL are only as faithful as their options.

 

Women want the most quality man they can get while men want the highest quantity of women they can get.

 

When I was in college, a girl I was interested in overlooked me for another older college guy who already had a decent job (for a college student) and drove nice wheels while I on the other hand was still a part-time convenience store clerk who took the bus to school. I was of course very saddened but I understood that people hade the right to go after the best deal for themselves.

 

Also, just recently a neighbor of mine who hadn't had a steady job in the past two years due to the economic downturn, got left by his wife the moment she received a 'romantic offer' from a more financially stable coworker. The guy is so devastated that he now looks like a mentally insane person who has lost direction in life.

 

 

You know, I see this forum as a way to get the unfiltered truth from men, because here they are anonymous and can say what's REALLY on their mind.

I, too have learned similar truth about women after spending some time in this forum.

 

Through this forum I have come to learn that the majority of women do in fact feel entitled to men 'wining and dining' them, see romance as a one way street, see being able to attract the interest of a man with a high paying job as a bragging right to announce to the whole world, see getting a man spending a lot of money to woo them as a bragging right to announce to the whole world, don't mind getting a man who makes much more money but will only accept a man who is at least of equal financial status, and so forth.

 

What about challenging preconceived notions, ones own reactions and responses, society's oppressive expectations that are no longer working for the individual members of society?

Why should I be willing to be with an ugly old woman when the same woman would overlook me for a more financially and socially higher status man if she had the option?

[soserious1]

musemaj11,

 

I highly doubt any of the people offering to hook me up with these elderly guys are looking to do me any favors,lol, they are primarily women hoping to unload an elderly brother or father on me in hopes that I'll be the one stuck providing physical care taking and end of life care for their relative instead of having to get stuck doing it themselves.

 

LOL,what's funny is how huffy & pissed off they get when I continue to refuse these offers, they're shocked & actually angry that I'm not interested.

Edited October 26, 2011 by soserious1

[Shaun-Dro]

I married a supposed "poor but loving" man 3 years my senior, I'm now stuck paying him hefty alimony for life and he's living with a woman 22 years my junior.

 

that's funny as hell but I'm not surprised. Don't be upset with him. This is the nature of the man. We crave the youthful beauty. It's like a need of having a delicious T-bone steak to fill us up.

[Shaun-Dro]

Yes, your chatting up of 16 year olds makes you so desirable Is that what it takes for you to feel like a man? An under aged girl?

 

This is case in point of silly remarks by women without knowing the facts or even bothering to correctly read what I posted or ask questions.

 

Not once did I say in my post that I was chatting up these girls to feel like a man. Of course, this is the hallucination of an older woman though.

[soserious1]

that's funny as hell but I'm not surprised. Don't be upset with him. This is the nature of the man. We crave the youthful beauty. It's like a need of having a delicious T-bone steak to fill us up.

 

I'm a dutiful old hag, I trot off to work each day and carefully send out the alimony check to avoid being put in jail, that's about as understanding as it gets. He gets the bulk of my paycheck to spend on a luscious babe and I get to work till the day I drop dead.

[Woggle]

In no way do I condone the ageism in this thread but it kills me when people think women are not just as bad. Somebody brought up an example of a woman leaving her husband because the economy hit him. People who are shallow themselves have no right getting angry about it in others.

[soserious1]

In no way do I condone the ageism in this thread but it kills me when people think women are not just as bad. Somebody brought up an example of a woman leaving her husband because the economy hit him. People who are shallow themselves have no right getting angry about it in others.

 

I have no problem in admitting that I'm an old ugly hag and I'm the first to admit that I am just as bad as any man, I'm GLEEFUL that I got out from under the obligation of having to provide physical care taking to my former in laws to help them to avoid being placed in a nursing home.

 

Btw, I LIKE the ageism in this thread because it's REAL, I also greatly respect men like Shandro and Musema because they tell it like it is, how they feel is right up front. Real and honest always trumps romantic claptrap in my book.

[soserious1]

So my question here is how many of the women that don't want to be judged solely or largely on looks are willing to give up being wooed and taken out by men and to contribute equally throughout a relationship (not just financially, but to also win your man rather than just be won over)?

 

I wooed, courted and married a man who had nothing and worked for a grand total of nine months during our entire relationship. I paid all of our bills and bent over backwards to do my full share of household chores because we both felt it would be "elitist" of me to foist it all on him simply because I was the breadwinner. I exercised daily, dieted vigorously,kept my wardrobe, grooming routine up, no sexual act was off limits, I initiated frequently.

 

Here I sit, alone, left only with the legal obligation to continue supporting him in the manner to which he'd grown accustomed during our marriage, he gets the bulk of my earnings and is living with a woman 22 yrs my junior.

 

My take away lesson? the pump and dump lifestyle of having only FB's or FWB is far preferable and a lot less expensive emotionally and fiscally than marriage.

[Sanman]

I'm a dutiful old hag, I trot off to work each day and carefully send out the alimony check to avoid being put in jail, that's about as understanding as it gets. He gets the bulk of my paycheck to spend on a luscious babe and I get to work till the day I drop dead.

 

 

There are plenty of guys here who can empathize. It is a sad fact of life in this country that such things to happen and not that uncommonly. The best way I know how to do this is think about the person with your head and not your heart. Your heart sweeps a lot red flags under the rug.

[soserious1]

There are plenty of guys here who can empathize. It is a sad fact of life in this country that such things to happen and not that uncommonly. The best way I know how to do this is think about the person with your head and not your heart. Your heart sweeps a lot red flags under the rug.

 

The one blessing about all of this is that won't happen again.My lawyer frequently reminds me that if I'm to have any hope of recovering enough to retire at some point I must avoid any relationship that legally obligates me to pay for another person's living. No remarriage, no living together, nothing with even the merest whiff of commitment or obligation.

[musemaj11]

 

Btw, I LIKE the ageism in this thread because it's REAL, I also greatly respect men like Shandro and Musema because they tell it like it is, how they feel is right up front. Real and honest always trumps romantic claptrap in my book.

I dont get idealistic people who refuse to accept reality and choose to live in their own fantasy.

 

When I see a successful guy leading different hot young women each day into his shiny car, I weep in envy. But Im not angry. I understand. Such is the fact of life. The successful guy is simply buying as many of the hottest women as his money can afford while the women are simply selling their youth and beauty to the highest buyer before they last. Its a fair trade. Rather than getting mad, I instead use the envy to motivate myself to be a successful man in the future.

[123321]

If my husband had been 15 years my senior I might well be a widow now or worse, stuck at home providing nursing care to a fragile elderly man.

 

You must be a lot older than me, I figured you around 45 which would put your hypothetical older SO around 60. So when you were 60 or 65, after decades of family life, yeah, he would probably leave you a widow after needing some care.

 

 

 

... alone is actually better than being married, I don't have to cook or clean, I don't have to ask permission to do things, I don't have to flatter or cater to a husband's ego ....

 

Well sounds like he really missed out on a treat staying with you.

 

 

 

My take away lesson? the pump and dump lifestyle of having only FB's or FWB is far preferable and a lot less expensive emotionally and fiscally than marriage.

 

A lot of guys have a similar experience and while I understand they might be practical in this view, it's not the life I want if I can have more.

[soserious1]

You must be a lot older than me, I figured you around 45 which would put your hypothetical older SO around 60. So when you were 60 or 65, after decades of family life, yeah, he would probably leave you a widow after needing some care.

 

 

 

 

 

Well sounds like he really missed out on a treat staying with you.

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of guys have a similar experience and while I understand they might be practical in this view, it's not the life I want if I can have more.

 

My point here is this, young women are being told they should marry guys 10-15 years their senior and to do so quickly,no later than their mid-twenties or they risk becoming "old and alone" given that the average woman can expect to live to age 80 or so, that means they are indeed going to spend a whole lot of years "old and alone" and that during their mid-life years, the time after the last child is grown and gone off to college, instead of being able to return to school or to her own career, such a woman is most likely going to be faced with the choice of either putting her elderly husband in a nursing home or once again giving up her own wants & needs to become his care giver.

 

My other point is this, happy family life has it's benefits but so does a single lifestyle, better to be single, able to care for one's self independently than to be in a miserable marriage and that there are indeed far worse things in this life than being single.

Edited October 26, 2011 by soserious1

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Yes, I get it. You believe all men believe that. The truth is that you think men are less than you. I have yet see you consider a man here reasonable, which likely makes you the unreasonable one.

 

Oh no, I don't believe all men believe that at all. I've infact said the exact opposite. Amazing how you've ignored those comments. Do you know why you've ignored them? Because it makes it easier for you to take a collective piss on women while you puff out your chest and act like your high and mighty. You're just here to proliferate a mentality about women that is at the heart of it, misognistic. Does your girlfriend know how you feel about her aging? How you're allowed to but she isn't?

 

I believe that a good chunk of the men that have come to LS have done so because of pasts hurts from women and have not dealt with it in a healthy matter. So they come here and take it out on women here. If you think this board is grounded in reality, then you need to step away from it a little more. I do not think most of the men within this thread are reasonable human beings, you would be correct about that. Look who you are joining racks with Sanman...Shaun Dro..Woogle? Woogle's not entirely bad but he isn't exactly the most reasonable either. And he pretty much justifies any treatment of women because of what happens to men. He dips his little toe in the water and makes some kind of small comment about something that might not be fair to women..but just as soon he pulls that toe out and quickly makes a comment about how it's justifiable because of what men go through. After all, we all know women are not people. Certainly not people like men are right Sanman?

 

I've said a number of times now that there are two different kinds of men in regards to this topic. There are men that date younger women because they think they think women are less then themselves. They don't have respect for that younger woman. She just has what he may want at the given time. But that's not a relationship born out of respect, kindness and real love. Thta's about what *he* gets from *her* and what *he* can *use* her for. And then there are men that date women of all ages because they really respect women. They like women. They enjoy them for who they are and what they do and what they look like and they realize that that spans ages. Which man are you Sanman? This is why I've said a million times that even younger women need to pay attention to how men talk to and think about her and other women. If he is picking her based on her age she needs to rethink that choice because it's not a very promising one for her. This is why I think men that believe this way do not really like or appreciate women. This isn't about him having more respect for younger women. He doesn't if he is picking them on age. This is about treating women like they are less.

 

 

I can live the reality that I am Brad Pitt, but that does not make it so. My bank assures me that I do not have millions in my account and women assure me I do not look similar. However, I will continue to believe this as I live the reality I create. What ridiculousness you spew

 

No. You spew ridiculousness. No one said to live in Lala land. Whether you want to believe it or not, alot of people's failures and successes are due to how they think about themselves. If a man believes he can become a cop, he will. If a man lives in fear of wanting to be a cop but fearing for what happens when he does, he won't do it. A woman can live in fear of men and never talk to them or she can smile and flirt and be engaging. You live in the reality you create. Take a look at soserious1. She wallows in self pity and doesn't even try to change. She has created the reality she lives in because she gets something from it. There are other women her age out and dating and having a good time.

 

Everyday women of all ages get into new relationships.There isn't some monolithic way of life where all the sudden men are living the high life and women are getting dumped in the garbage. And the idea that there is shows a level of misogny toward women. Deny it all you will but you can't just like women when they are young and claim you "love" women. You either like women or you don't. If you only like women because of what you think they give you, that isn't real like.

[musemaj11]

My other point is this, happy family life has it's benefits but so does a single lifestyle, better to be single, able to care for one's self independently than to be in a miserable marriage and that there are indeed far worse things in this life than being single.

Smart people marry up. That way the marriage is going to be a win-win situation either way.

[thatone]

My point here is this, young women are being told they should marry guys 10-15 years their senior and to do so quickly,no later than their mid-twenties or they risk becoming "old and alone" given that the average woman can expect to live to age 80 or so, that means they are indeed going to spend a whole lot of years "old and alone" and that during their mid-life years, the time after the last child is grown and gone off to college, instead of being able to return to school or to her own career, such a woman is most likely going to be faced with the choice of either putting her elderly husband in a nursing home or once again giving up her own wants & needs to become his care giver.

 

My other point is this, happy family life has it's benefits but so does a single lifestyle, better to be single, able to care for one's self independently than to be in a miserable marriage and that there are indeed far worse things in this life than being single.

 

well, that mentality i think has little to do with relationships and everything to do with a broken society.

 

people spending their 20s alone so that they can work 60-80 hours a week for the next 30 years, so that they can then have enough money to live on when they get old (until doctor visits take all the money) is also ridiculous.

 

and yeah, i did it too in my 20s. but about my junior year in college it hit me what i was doing so i quit. then a few years later it hit me again when i had the 60-80 hour a week job, which i also quit. i lucked into an opportunity to be self employed later but i don't make any bones about that being anything other than luck, honestly. right place at the right time.

 

but the notion of giving up relationships or other personal interests for a job seems so ridiculous to me, it's amazing that so many people do it, especially when the job will in all likelihood throw you out on the street 15 or 20 years down the line.

[soserious1]

Oh no, I don't believe all men believe that at all. I've infact said the exact opposite. Amazing how you've ignored those comments. Do you know why you've ignored them? Because it makes it easier for you to take a collective piss on women while you puff out your chest and act like your high and mighty. You're just here to proliferate a mentality about women that is at the heart of it, misognistic. Does your girlfriend know how you feel about her aging? How you're allowed to but she isn't?

 

I believe that a good chunk of the men that have come to LS have done so because of pasts hurts from women and have not dealt with it in a healthy matter. So they come here and take it out on women here. If you think this board is grounded in reality, then you need to step away from it a little more. I do not think most of the men within this thread are reasonable human beings, you would be correct about that. Look who you are joining racks with Sanman...Shaun Dro..Woogle? Woogle's not entirely bad but he isn't exactly the most reasonable either. And he pretty much justifies any treatment of women because of what happens to men. He dips his little toe in the water and makes some kind of small comment about something that might not be fair to women..but just as soon he pulls that toe out and quickly makes a comment about how it's justifiable because of what men go through. After all, we all know women are not people. Certainly not people like men are right Sanman?

 

I've said a number of times now that there are two different kinds of men in regards to this topic. There are men that date younger women because they think they think women are less then themselves. They don't have respect for that younger woman. She just has what he may want at the given time. But that's not a relationship born out of respect, kindness and real love. Thta's about what *he* gets from *her* and what *he* can *use* her for. And then there are men that date women of all ages because they really respect women. They like women. They enjoy them for who they are and what they do and what they look like and they realize that that spans ages. Which man are you Sanman? This is why I've said a million times that even younger women need to pay attention to how men talk to and think about her and other women. If he is picking her based on her age she needs to rethink that choice because it's not a very promising one for her. This is why I think men that believe this way do not really like or appreciate women. This isn't about him having more respect for younger women. He doesn't if he is picking them on age. This is about treating women like they are less.

 

 

 

 

No. You spew ridiculousness. No one said to live in Lala land. Whether you want to believe it or not, alot of people's failures and successes are due to how they think about themselves. If a man believes he can become a cop, he will. If a man lives in fear of wanting to be a cop but fearing for what happens when he does, he won't do it. A woman can live in fear of men and never talk to them or she can smile and flirt and be engaging. You live in the reality you create. Take a look at soserious1. She wallows in self pity and doesn't even try to change. She has created the reality she lives in because she gets something from it. There are other women her age out and dating and having a good time.

 

Everyday women of all ages get into new relationships.There isn't some monolithic way of life where all the sudden men are living the high life and women are getting dumped in the garbage. And the idea that there is shows a level of misogny toward women. Deny it all you will but you can't just like women when they are young and claim you "love" women. You either like women or you don't. If you only like women because of what you think they give you, that isn't real like.

 

Pity? no, not at all

 

Make no mistake, I date & often these days, the difference is that I do so while acknowledging REALITY. Men who are my age peers are also frequently divorced, still mired in paying alimony, still supporting older teens, paying college bills. Sorry but I can't afford and frankly want ZERO part of having to deal with another set of kids, nor am I interested in "helping" such a man out by absorbing the bulk of our shared expenses so that he can give the lion's share of his money to his ex-wife. Nor am I interested in a committed relationship with a man 10 years my senior or more, the prospect of being legally and morally obligated to provide direct care and to pay for extended nursing home care seriously makes my hair go whiter than it already is.

 

I enjoy FB and casual FWB's relationships, a movie, concert, perhaps dinner, a few drinks, casual conversations,laughter vigorous sex.. then we both go our own ways, no harm, no foul

neither of us obligated to the other in any way shape or fashion.

 

I know exactly what I want from my relationships, I no longer believe in romantic fairy tales, I know my limitations physically, emotionally and fiscally and have carved out a post divorce social life that meets those needs, no "pity" expected or needed here.

[allina]

This is case in point of silly remarks by women without knowing the facts or even bothering to correctly read what I posted or ask questions.

 

Not once did I say in my post that I was chatting up these girls to feel like a man. Of course, this is the hallucination of an older woman though.

 

The point is that you were bragging about these teen girls approaching you like you thought it made you appear desirable.

If you want to call me an older woman that's fine, I would never give a sad little man the time of day IRL and I won't online either. This thread is just my entertainment during my commute so thanks for the laughs

[Zed]

That ED beginning at 35 may not be entirely due to just physical reasons, though. Using another example, I read that men's so-called "midlife-crisis" is not because of THEIR age, but because of their WIFE's age. in other words, the older the woman on his side gets (and looks) the less attracted he feels to her, becomes depressed and tries to regain his youth (and getting younger women) by doing "youthful" things like buying a fast car or whatever else the cliche is. Like I said, google the "coolidge effect".

 

There may be men out there who truly love their women and love the strong bond and "what they have between them", but they are NOT the majority. Real life delivers enough valid evidence for that. Who do men turn their head for? the young hot 20year old or the old 50year old? Who do most men, if they do, have affairs with? the homely, motherly 50year old secretary or the hot young co-worker?

 

A man is only as faithful as his options? I believe this to be true for the majority of men.

 

Like I said, I'm not holding my breath for the duration of my own relationship. my boyfriend might NOW rave all he wants how beautiful he finds me and how he loves what we have - I'll see what he's TRULY made of in a couple years ...

 

I agree with this. Unfiltered anonymous comments has its benefits in facing up to the kind of social Darwinism being presented on this thread.

 

Despite women’s advancements in having more choices in their lives, social imperatives continue to dictate that women are disposable despite longer life spans, more economic capital, and more choices in whom they can pair up with. The ultimate take away is that you should be young, pretty, and fertile or you are not worth it. And if you are past a sell by date, you better not look old—and at the very least have the appearance of genuine youth in order to retain passing male interest.

 

The thing is, people keep saying that man’s options increase as they get older due to increase social and economical capital. I don’t see how that is possible in today economy since older men are no more physically appealing as the supposed dried up old hags that are 35+. The way the economy has hit industries that are male dominated means that a lot of guys are never going to have the economic capital as generations previously. In fact their wealth will continue to decrease with the exception of the vaunted 1%. Since those top guys are a minority and of course will have their pick domestically and globally of the best women they can buy, what about the rest of the other guys whose careers will probably be stalled and wages depressed due to the new trends in the economy. The extra cash that a lot of guys expect to have in their late 20’s—30’s, in order to get nubile women to start families or to have affairs with, will not be there like before—so what else are men going to bring to the table in the future.

 

Whatever the case now, I also appreciate the viewpoint being presented because it also makes me aware that woman’s sole commodity is looks, youth, and the ability to procreate—and if she does not want kids—she should have a low key personality to make the guy look good. Their are exceptions of course, but beyond these features, a woman who does not posses these qualities better be either extremely charismatic, be able to provide very adequately for herself, and have enough social capital going on for herself, in that worrying about shacking up with a guy who sees her as used goods with a dried up womb would be a serious liability to her own sanity.