aj22one Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 It is an issue of immaturity. Which is ironic, because all the guys here seem to want women in their low 20s. But the women they are meeting in their low 20s are immature, and want bastards, rakes, and players. But the guys still insist that these are the women of highest "value". When they are actually just the youngest. Immaturity all around. Well since I'm 24 it should be no surprise that I want a woman in her 20s. Unless you're saying I should date a woman in her 30s or 40s? Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Somehow I don't see a drug dealer having a great personality, great social skills, or having a great sense of humor. What does his social skills go to? Being social enough to get high? Drug dealers probably have great social skills. They have to pull hustles and to do that, they have to have to know how to talk to people. As for personality and sense of humor, why not? All sorts of people sell drugs. Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have never known a drug dealer that struggled with his dating life. That's probably because drug dealers have money and a lot of girls love bad boys with dough. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 How do I become a drug dealer? Is there a class I can take? Link to post Share on other sites
aj22one Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 That's probably because drug dealers have money and a lot of girls love bad boys with dough. The irony is that if recreational drugs were legal they probably wouldn't cost as much which means those bad boys wouldn't have as much extra dough. And, since their chosen occupation was now on the up and up, they'd no longer be "bad". They'd be just like the guys working at CVS pharmacy . So guys, let's stop complaining about these bad guys let's lobby for legalization. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Think of it as path of least resistance. Dealing drugs is easier and generally less dangerous than robbing banks. If everyone stopped buying drugs, or could buy them at CVS, the former drug dealers would just move on to the next stop on the path of least resistance, whatever that is. I've known a few who became successful in the corporate world, but they had only business on their mind when dealing. Profit was the motive. When it got too sticky with the law, they moved on to other businesses However, since it's doubtful that all currently illegal drugs will be legalized, illegal drug dealers will continue to exist and prosper. Their product mix might change over time, but they'll be around. This applies to all parts of the production chain, of which the dealer is the tip. They're all risk takers, and that generally is an attractive quality in a man. Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 How do I become a drug dealer? Is there a class I can take? Hahahahahaha you'd probably get lots of @ss. Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The irony is that if recreational drugs were legal they probably wouldn't cost as much which means those bad boys wouldn't have as much extra dough. And, since their chosen occupation was now on the up and up, they'd no longer be "bad". They'd be just like the guys working at CVS pharmacy . So guys, let's stop complaining about these bad guys let's lobby for legalization. There's illegal drugs and then there's prescription drugs. Right now prescription drugs are what's selling the most on the streets. As crazy as that sounds. So even if pot, coke, heroine all became legal, the Vicodin, Xanax, Oxycotin etc. etc. is what people are buying. Prescription drugs would still remain a huge money maker for drug dealers. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Well since I'm 24 it should be no surprise that I want a woman in her 20s. Unless you're saying I should date a woman in her 30s or 40s? Not "should", but why not? It could be fun Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not "should", but why not? It could be fun Yeah cougars are fun! I'm 32 and have dated younger men. I find that men in their 20's go for the older women. At least in my experience they do. Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 There's illegal drugs and then there's prescription drugs. Right now prescription drugs are what's selling the most on the streets. As crazy as that sounds. So even if pot, coke, heroine all became legal, the Vicodin, Xanax, Oxycotin etc. etc. is what people are buying. Prescription drugs would still remain a huge money maker for drug dealers. According to my spam filter, everyone is selling Viagra. Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 According to my spam filter, everyone is selling Viagra. Alright so add that to the list of prescription drugs drug dealer are selling on the streets. It's probably a lot easier to buy these types of drugs on the streets then to go to the doctor to get a prescription. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 So we have a pretty good idea why emotionally immature women in the ghetto (or for that matter a college campus...plenty of drugs there) would go for a drug dealer. Let's not forget about the Rakes of the world. It's kind of an anachronistic word I used there.* A rake is a man born into a certain degree of wealth or a higher class status. He then uses that to no productive purpose mostly for wine, women and song. At best they go into business or politics but at such a level where they don't need any actual skills. Men like this have been around for a long time. The defining period of the rake was at the court of Charles II in the late seventeenth century. Dubbed the "Merry Gang" by poet Andrew Marvell, their members included George Villiers, 2nd Duke of Buckingham, John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester, Sir Charles Sedley, Charles Sackville, 6th Earl of Dorset, and the playwrights William Wycherley and George Etherege.[5] Following the tone set by the monarch himself, these men distinguished themselves in drinking, womanising and witty conversation, with the Earl of Rochester outdoing all the rest. Many of them were inveterate gamblers, brawlers and duellists also. Lowlights of their careers include Sedley and the Earl of Dorset preaching naked to a crowd from an alehouse balcony in Covent Garden, as they simulated sex with each other, and Buckingham killing the Earl of Shrewsbury in a duel for the latter's wife A later group of aristocatic rakes were associated with the Hell Fire Club in the eighteenth century. These included Francis Dashwood and John Wilkes.[7] Other rakes include the reputed "Rape-Master General" of England, Colonel Charteris, Cagliostro, Lord Byron, John Mytton, Giacomo Casanova, Charles Mohun, 4th Baron Mohun, the Marquis de Sade and Beauchamp Bagenal. Modern Examples: John F. Kennedy ("Smell my finger and guess what I have been doing with Ms. Monroe.) Edward Kennedy (Left a woman to die after crashing a car into a lake) Prince Harry of Great Britain (arguably) George W. Bush (in his coke filled youth) Any number of frat boys of upper middle class and lower rich background while in college. One would think that on some level women getting involved with such men would have to KNOW that it's not going to be anything but slam bam and not even a thank you ma'am. That said I have never known of such men having trouble procuring women. In fact women would seem to do anything to be near such men....while thinking that with them things would be different. What's the deal with that? *I first heard it in a game called Empire Total War where a Rake was a spy/assassin for hire. Then I heard it on my favorite DVD set "John Adams" cussing out his drunkard son Charles who he ended up disowning. It fits very well. Link to post Share on other sites
OnyxSnowfall Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 How do I become a drug dealer? Is there a class I can take? http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-become-a-pharmacist/ Link to post Share on other sites
ShannonMI Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-become-a-pharmacist/ Hahahahahaha good one :laugh:and he probably would get a lot of tail being that type of drug dealer as well. Pharmacists make good money Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The big time drug dealers are usually nerdy looking guys. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Street pharmacist. My next career path. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 This thread deserves a BUMP as it could be illustrative for someone here. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun-Dro Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 God is that really true? :confused:I must be part of the minority that would go for the guy with the job, house/apartment and car. I would hope most women wouldn't chose the dirtbag, but I'm sure there are plenty of women who would. Women with little self worth and self esteem. The thing is, there are plenty of good women dating good men but they're unattractive or plain at best. The gorgeous, shapely, sexy young women are dropping their panties and throwing away their one-time innocence to the scum of the earth. Again, I speak nothing but the hardcore truth, take it or leave it. But this is what's going across America and perhaps other parts of the world also, however, of course, a few exceptions. Link to post Share on other sites
Sanman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The thing is, there are plenty of good women dating good men but they're unattractive or plain at best. The gorgeous, shapely, sexy young women are dropping their panties and throwing away their one-time innocence to the scum of the earth. Again, I speak nothing but the hardcore truth, take it or leave it. But this is what's going across America and perhaps other parts of the world also, however, of course, a few exceptions. It is simple really. As women become more educated, a guy with a good job who is responsible is less important than one that gets them wet. As parents spoil their kids (especially little girls), they expect their parents will always support them and their scumbag bfs. I know a girl who graduated from an Ivy league school and then did nothing with her life. Just waitress and bartender jobs. She is very sexy with a number of tattoos. She got a DUI and crashed her car. Parents pick up the tab for a Manhattan loft and got her a new car. When I stopped speaking to her, she let her drug dealer bf and three of his friends move into her place, leased a car for him, and lent him cash to pay child support to his three baby mamas. Yeah, smart girl. Good girls date these guys as well though. They are just smart enough to learn after being used once or twice. I am dating an average/cute girl now who dated a few bad boys in her past and learned. This is a very together good girl with a nice job mind you. Then again, I dated more than my share of pretty girls who heard the word doctor and saw $ signs. We both wised up and are happy. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Sometimes people from privileged backgrounds like to go slumming and think life on the wrong side of the tracks is exciting and romantic when in reality it is a daily hell for those who live it. I don't see too many working class women who had to bust their ass to better themselves going for these kinds of men. I have a friend who dealt drugs for a while before eventually giving it up and opening a legitimate business and he said he was on edge 24/7 wondering if today was the day the copes were going to kick in the door at 6 in the morning. People who have everything in life handed to them like the woman you talk who has her apartment paid for by her parents have no idea how lucky they have it. Link to post Share on other sites
Metis Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Mrlonelyone: "Nice guy" and "jerk" aren't the only two personality types. Human nature is complex, and it's rather dismissive of you to conclude that if women aren't attracted to some guy who has a condo and doesn't call them names, then they must be attracted to worthless and violent men; and to blame women for "emotional immaturity". It's a lot more complicated than that. First of all, allow me to be blunt here (and this is speaking from personal experience): self-described "nice guys" are almost never actually nice. What they are, almost without exception, is passive-aggressive and cowardly. They put on a thin veneer of respect, and they are generally afraid to express their true beliefs to a woman's face, but that should never be mistaken for "niceness"; get close to one, and you'll see toxic resentment bubbling right below the surface. They don't act nice because common courtesy dictates that we treat each other politely; rather, they open a door and believe the woman now owes them her companionship, her services, and, if they so desire, to have their children. Furthermore, I find it amusing how the "nice guy" in your scenario has a condo, and the "jerk" lives in his mom's basement. Let's be realistic here. A manipulator who knows how to talk to women and get them in bed, acting immorally in the process -- as opposed to someone who is shy and introverted, and leads a straight life -- is also likely to be able to parlay his way into jobs and promotions, and to bend the rules to get his hands on lots of nice things. Even that is beside the point, however. Just like a "nice guy" isn't actually "nice" most of the time, so a jerk isn't always a jerk, but acts according to the situation. He can be charming and accommodating when he has to, and he can act like a jerk when it doesn't hurt his interests. In fact, "nice guys" and "jerks" are very much alike, if you think about it, except "jerks" can gauge the situation and calculate the cost-benefit equation better. Coming back to what I said before: there are more than two personality types. I've met womanizers who are actually very good men and interesting companions; they are just incapable of monogamy and have a short attention span when it comes to women. Are they "jerks"? A lot of people would say so. Men whose superficial "respectfulness" hasn't gotten them into a satisfying relationship would certainly say so. But I've also met so-called "nice guys" who are so self-righteous, judgmental, entitled and boring, that frankly, they act like jerks most of the time. All that said, if a man possesses qualities that appeal to women -- such as good looks, an outgoing personality, an ability to make intelligent conversation (that's "conversation", not "lecture") -- it goes without saying that such a man will be pursued by a lot of women. Hence the reputation as a "rake" and a "player". It's no different than when a lot of men pursue particularly desirable women. Link to post Share on other sites
FitChick Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Another whiny thread by men who feel sorry for themselves. Yes, self-pity is an attractive trait in a man. Can't imagine why you can't get a date. (yawn) Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Another whiny thread by men who feel sorry for themselves. Yes, self-pity is an attractive trait in a man. Can't imagine why you can't get a date. (yawn) Is there any way a man can speak what he feels about modern day dating without women calling it whining? Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Another whiny thread by men who feel sorry for themselves. Yes, self-pity is an attractive trait in a man. Can't imagine why you can't get a date. (yawn) I think self-pity is a neutral trait. Neither attractive nor unattractive. I mean why would a girl care if I had low confidence? Link to post Share on other sites
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