Untouchable_Fire Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 But you do seem like a likely member for the "I Hate Women" club, along with Muse, The Hydra, Shaun-Dro and Woggle. Maybe y'all can get your own forum here so you can continue to high-five each other from your common ground. ... so you and the other ladies can go on to provide crappy, super biased, self righteous advice to any poor schmuck or schmuckette that comes along? "My BF leaves the toilet lid up, what should I do?" . "DUMP HIM!!!... AARRRGGG" These guys are like Fox News... people show up read what they write and think... "Ok... I can't take the weirdos on this forum too serious" Without them people may accidentally take the more subtle 'always blame the male' advice to heart without stopping to consider the source. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think the smooth talking reason has good traction. I've seen decades of examples of it in real life. Also, the life of the actor behind that role is worthy of consideration, IMO. Interesting how life works. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 ... so you and the other ladies can go on to provide crappy, super biased, self righteous advice to any poor schmuck or schmuckette that comes along? "My BF leaves the toilet lid up, what should I do?" . "DUMP HIM!!!... AARRRGGG" These guys are like Fox News... people show up read what they write and think... "Ok... I can't take the weirdos on this forum too serious" Without them people may accidentally take the more subtle 'always blame the male' advice to heart without stopping to consider the source. But I NEVER give "always blame the male" advice. Never. Link to post Share on other sites
AHardDaysNight Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Disgusting. This is tremendously vicious, ignorant and ugly, with no constructive point whatsoever. You know, people who have been raped, beaten, raised children on their own, had a bunch of bikers gang bang them, had an untreated STD that resulted in their sterility, etc., have quite a burden to bear and much to overcome. If they do overcome all of that and find a healthy and happy relationship, that is wonderful and beautiful for them. Such struggles have nothing to do with the evident empty and cold place that is YOUR love / social life. MrLonelyone, I honestly do not believe that you are a "scientist" of any kind, except maybe in your fantasy life. You show no capacity for didactic reasoning in any of your posts, ever. You just make up any old crap to support a position that is rickety to begin with. No credibility, dude / dudess. But you do seem like a likely member for the "I Hate Women" club, along with Muse, The Hydra, Shaun-Dro and Woggle. Maybe y'all can get your own forum here so you can continue to high-five each other from your common ground. It is quite possible that he is a scientist. Scientists can be bad scientists, just like there are bad lawyers, bad doctors, bad policemen, etc. I view his posts as half and half. Sometimes he is sticking up for women, sometimes he is hating on them. Same with men. I guess it comes from his experience as being both sexes. I did find what he wrote as disgusting, but it's also kind of true. Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 But I NEVER give "always blame the male" advice. Never. Um... I didn't really mean "you" in particular when I said "you"... I was kind of addressing everyone who reads that statement. Upon re-read I definitely should have phrased that differently. Mme. Chaucer... I do see very good and mostly impartial advice coming from you. Really there are some posters who possess a wisdom I just don't typically see in real life. None of them waste time in the dating section. Owl is a great example... they focus on making existing relationships work. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) @Mme. Chaucer Scientist use Empirical (evidence based) reasoning. Not didactic reasoning. If you don't know that then don't comment on science. I also apologize if I don't act like some scion of all knowledge like a stoic philosopher of some kind. I don't apologize for now spewing neoliberalisms about relationships that bear no resemblance to actual human behavior. @AHardDaysNight So if something is true, weather it's disgusting or not, it is what it is. There is no other reasoning to consider from an Empirical perpsctive. As you observed, yes, when I see women or men behaving badly I call them on it. Afterall what's the title of this thread?.... is it All women are bad? (I didn't start the one called why men like bitches). I said that lots of men are bastards and rakes and players none of which is a compliment. IRL the proper pronoun to use are the female ones. I have explained about the screen name several times. Edited October 25, 2011 by Mrlonelyone Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think the smooth talking reason has good traction. I've seen decades of examples of it in real life. Also, the life of the actor behind that role is worthy of consideration, IMO. Interesting how life works. Yes he was a prime example of just the kind of guy I am talking about here in his movies and in life. In the blues brothers he was a bastard to that woman. In animal house he was a bit of a rake (as were all the other brothers of ΔΤΧ). I don't really know his other movies so well. Did he ever play a smooth slick player? _________ In the above I meant "for not spewing neoliberalisms." Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think the OP was referring to this thread where a middle-class man living at home with his apparently solvent and healthy parents is being questioned regarding viability for dating/relationship. Thanks Carhill, now I understand. Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I don't really know his other movies so well. Did he ever play a smooth slick player? You might try Old Boyfriends; John died young and didn't make many movies. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) I think the OP was referring to I was thinking, while reading the posts questioning your motivations here, that working in such finite science as mathematics and the cosmos, it's nice to take a vacation into the subjective once in awhile. Flexes the 'what if' muscles. Yes it is a welcome distraction from the much more mindnumbing "science" I am doing now. Charting methanol Masers and their surroundings and seeing whatever patterns there are to see. Maser. Like a laser but with microwave energy. These were known of before Lasers and lasers were once called "optical masers". Fun fact, a journal called physical review rejected the first paper describing lasers thinking it was unimportant. lol. You might try Old Boyfriends; John died young and didn't make many movies. Yeah that was a shame. Now all we are left with is his brother doing his best impression. (James was like a less funny less drugged up version of John.) Edited October 25, 2011 by Mrlonelyone Link to post Share on other sites
Metis Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Men contrary to popular belief tend to see through womens talk more easily than women see through mens. After the initial she's hot reaction, they analyze a womans actions and reach a reliable verdict based on evidence. Women ignore the evidence that a man is a bastard, rake or player and get burned allot more often. Their famlies, friends, everyone tells them he's a player a well known heart breaker and they still try to grab that hot coal. Right Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof; show some proof of that. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 But you do seem like a likely member for the "I Hate Women" club, along with Muse Hey! Not this muse, I hope... Link to post Share on other sites
Metis Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 What did they have to sift through to get to that point? I guarantee they had to filter out many many women who were damaged goods in order to find a good one who wasn't. They had to try very hard to find someone who was always on the ball...and did not need to reform into one after screwing up royally. One problem with irrationally hating people for their gender, their youth, their hotness, or how easy (as seen by an outsider) it is for them to get laid is a distinct lack of consistency. Just a little further upthread, male lawyers couldn't get a break from women all seeking to date drug dealers and thugs and rejecting guys with educations and good jobs, and now, only a few hours later, it turns out lawyers have to beat women off with a stick and "sift" through numerous eager candidates before finding a "good woman" -- all before they start practicing law. Link to post Share on other sites
serial muse Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 One problem with irrationally hating people for their gender, their youth, their hotness, or how easy (as seen by an outsider) it is for them to get laid is a distinct lack of consistency. Just a little further upthread, male lawyers couldn't get a break from women all seeking to date drug dealers and thugs and rejecting guys with educations and good jobs, and now, only a few hours later, it turns out lawyers have to beat women off with a stick and "sift" through numerous eager candidates before finding a "good woman" -- all before they start practicing law. Exactly. THANK YOU. It's just so illogical. Instead of "I noticed a peculiar trend that I will now elucidate," which would require consistency, this is just another faux-trend that is merely a front for "I'm basically feeling pissed off but I need to distance myself from it and make it sound academic or no one will empathize." So popular on these boards. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hey! Not this muse, I hope... No, never, my darling! How could you even think? Link to post Share on other sites
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 One problem with irrationally hating people for their gender, their youth, their hotness, or how easy (as seen by an outsider) it is for them to get laid is a distinct lack of consistency. Just a little further upthread, male lawyers couldn't get a break from women all seeking to date drug dealers and thugs and rejecting guys with educations and good jobs, and now, only a few hours later, it turns out lawyers have to beat women off with a stick and "sift" through numerous eager candidates before finding a "good woman" -- all before they start practicing law. Yet we have whole political parties built around hatred and envy of other people based on economic status. Is that acceptable? Maybe this kind of thinking is just human nature. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) @metis I am not hating anyone here, certainly not women. I just noted the trend that young immature women, as I said in the OP and again and again since tend to choose bastards rakes and players. As for my proof. Just in the last week. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t303274/ http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t303861/ http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t303816/ http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t303828/ That's just the last couple days here. Outisde of here yet still notable enough to have a website dedicated to it. http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/10/20/kim-kardashian-kris-humphries-marriage-divorce/ Woman could have had anyone she wanted, and choose a rakish playboy. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/16/tareq-salahi-divorce-file_n_966756.html Woman had a man who while his interest have been hit by the downturn, still seems to be a generally decent man. Left him for a rocker who is a total scumbag by all account. Historically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy Unless your a good swimmer don't get in a car with him. Further as I have said and shown with pictures of me, I am a transgender woman myself. This is me. On a scale from 0 to six 0 being 100% into women and 6 being 100% into men I am about a 5.5. I came here originally to talk about that .5/6 rather than being out I came closeted and chose the name Mr. If anything I am criticizing the men choosen as much as the women doing the choosing. Bastardly rakish men who treat women like garbage and women who let theselves be used that way, repeatedly. They go hand in hand. Sorry. When things predictably go south it's not always just the man's fault. Please stop making this thread out to be things that it isns't. Edited October 25, 2011 by Mrlonelyone Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Investment. That word essentially says it all. To be valued, the key is not to give but to receive-the more the better. That is basically the player/rake motto. I will put it this way you work and save up the money to buy a brand new car. When you get the car you also win the exact same car. Which one will you value more? The one you bought. This same logic goes into pimping. Their motto is cash before a$$. The prostitute is investing in the pimp with money and the woman is investing in the player/rake with emotion. The return is basically those moments like a previous poster said when they are alone and he shows another side of himself. People can say that person is no good but they are so invested in the situation. Link to post Share on other sites
betterdeal Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Perhaps chicks dig 'em because the cads and bounders aren't sat at home writing interminably dreary crap on the internet. There's only so much interest you can pay to the someone sat staring at a screen. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 @betterdeal. Perhaps but it takes at most 5 minutes of the day out of 1440 minutes in a day to write a post here. Which for all anyone knows could be from their ipad while riding the train to/from work. Now to get this thread back on track let us look at another aspect of this issue. Women who choose domestically violent emotionally abusive men, then either stay with them or choose the same kind of man again and again and again. If we live long enough we all will know women like this. Just as young and/or emotionally immature women choose bastards rakes and players again and again. Too too often they choose and then stay with men who abuse them. While it is not their fault for being abused by the bastards rakes and/or players they choose. If they choose such a man once it's bad luck. If they pick such a man again it's a coincidence. If they pick the same kind of man after that, there's a pattern of self destructive behavior on the part of the woman. Consider the following disturbing stats: http://www.thesafespace.org/pdf/handout_dv_on_campus.pdf Women between the ages of 16 and 24 experience the highest rate of intimate partner violence. Nearly one-third of college students report physically assaulting a dating partner in the previous 12 months. As many as one quarter of female students experience sexual assault over the course of their college career. Approximately 90% of victims of sexual assault on college campuses know their attacker. The man who commits these acts of violence need not be a drug dealer. ( People focused so much on that one example. :smh) He could be a man who on paper looks good and classy, a JD. The difference is he only looks good on paper and once the core of the scumbag he is is revealed .... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-weldon/domestic-abuse_b_1022631.html My Female Colleagues Told Me Not To Talk About The Abuse. I Did It Anyway The abuse from my handsome, smart lawyer husband I had known my whole life happened mostly annually from 1987 to 1995. It is now so long ago it feels as if it happened to someone else. Even thought I told the story, it has not limited me. Instead, the act of owning up to the truth and proudly walking fully into who I am defines me. My professional reputation is built around courage, honesty and authentic storytelling in all forms as a professor, journalist, speaker, mentor and author. I can tell other stories with empathy because I was brave enough to tell my own. My goal was to take control of a life I had lost control of. I wrote to understand and explain to myself a confusing and chaotic marriage to a charismatic, convincing abusive man, a litigating attorney who dazzled others in a Brooks Brothers suit, toasted me at parties and made my woman friends swoon with envy over his public professions of adoration. He brought my closest friend flowers the first time he met her. Years later, he bit me on my arm before a family party. Heeee bit her. WTH? Her explanation for staying with the bastard: Many women like me who are confident, successful and without a history of any form of abuse do not report domestic violence disputes at first because they are afraid they will die of embarrassment. It is never embarrassment that kills them. What? Help me to understand this, really. Why would this woman stay with a man who was a total jack@$$ in private. I mean the real reason not the one that is complimentary to her. Is it emotional immaturity, as I have speculated. She couldn't stand temporary embarrassment to improve her life? Was it that she liked the status of having a husband that would have looked good to other people, his social status? We know what makes these men tick, they are motivated by that base reptillian part of their brain and don't really care what anyone else needs. Why anyone would put up with that is the mystery. October is Domestic violence awareness month. (How many of us knew that? I just found out and I watch/listen to the news all the time. ) Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 BUMP. Come on no one's a little intrigued by the kind of behavior in the post above? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 BUMP. Come on no one's a little intrigued by the kind of behavior in the post above? dude, we've beat this dead horse 10,000 times already Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 dude, we've beat this dead horse 10,000 times already You may have but I...don't recall us discussing something as psycho as someone biting their wife? Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 If you're actually interested in why women remain in abusive relationships, there is plenty of valid, in depth information on the Internet. I'm sorry, but it's not going to support your creepy position. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Instead of hurling insults how about helpful links? Link to post Share on other sites
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