ThsAmericanLife Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 aj22one and verhrzn, here is what I think: No one wants to live with someone who makes their life hell. No one wants to spend every day arguing or locked in some never-ending power struggle. However, it's one of those "duh" things that are sort of understood. To say that you want someone you can actually live with without jumping off a bridge is sort of like saying you want your ideal partner to be of the opposite sex (if you are hetero) or someone that you are actually attracted to. However, when a man describes "fun and easy to get along with" as a special requirement, that does, unfortunately, set off alarm bells precisely for the reasons that verhrzn listed: that women are expected (by some) solely to accommodate and amuse, and never do or say anything that may make a man feel uncomfortable, inadequate, less than a Lord of the Universe, etc., and it covers some of the things I mentioned in my own list. Given that it comes from Woggle, who is (I think most of us can agree), one of LS' resident misogynists, I think people here may be forgiven for a bit of knee-jerk reaction. Lord of the Universe... is that a costume?? I'll play!! He can show me his 'light saber' and search for my 'hidden treasure'. ... but seriously... I do think it is part of being a mature and considerate human being to have 'filters' of some kind. I used to think it was dishonest to have filters and that to withhold my feelings was endangering the intimacy and 'realness' in a relationship. I've learned that it is actually alot more caring not to burden the people around me with my every passing thought or mood. It is actually considered a mark of 'leadership' in women or men to be able to monitor and measure out one's emotions and constructively engage with another in any situation. I'd expect this ability in a man I'd partner with too. Routine outbursts of any kind are really distasteful and unnecessary for either gender. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I never said that a woman should express an opinion or bring up any concerns but there is way to do it without treating a man like the enemy. There is also a time and place. One of the best things about being married to my current wife is that we can actually take a drama free vacation. In my first marriage we would have a knock down drag out fight and I would end up having things thrown if I simply took her to one restaurant without magically guessing she wanted something else but if I asked her where she wanted to go she would flip out on me for not knowing. This is the kind of crap I can do without. We frequently see in threads about how women like to feel protected by their men because it makes them feel feminine. They like the feel of being safe in his strong arms. Men have a version of that. We like to know that home is a peaceful place we can go to and not have to deal with all the crap of the world. It doesn't mean a woman should be a stepford robot but I would rather be single than have home be a hostile place. Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Real women are individuals. So are real men. Link to post Share on other sites
thatone Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm eating my homemade corn/potato/cheese chowder... to be followed by fresh apple pie I made from scratch today using local apples. Which I made after walking to the post office to file the tax amendments for my two year old consulting company. Obviously, I eat like a construction worker (see above). I also have the body of a 20 yr old cheerleader (or so my fiancee said)... I believe it was alphamale that said that real women 'swallow' and enjoy anal sex Check!! but I haven't shaved my legs in two days (-1) am not wearing makeup (-1) .. and my twat is trimmed, not waxed (-1) ...Guess it is back to the drawing board. DAMN! (-1 for profanity) you have excruciatingly beatiful hair and no i don't mean your twat hair. i'm gonna go to NOLA week after next, maybe i'll see you there. (inside joke) Link to post Share on other sites
dasein Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Real women have a sense of humor as displayed in the "should 40+ women be allowed to troll these forums?" thread. Why can't this thread be more like that one? Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A real woman doesn't scream out "Kevin!" in the throes of orgasm unless your name happens to be "Kevin." A real woman will laugh and say that 'Kevin' is the name of a lesser god in the "Lord of the Universe" game after you come in her ass. Link to post Share on other sites
ThsAmericanLife Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A real woman willingly shaves or waxes her pubic region on a regular basis to please her man without shaming or accusing him of being a pedophile. A real woman will tie up her man after he's finished his six pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon and then wax his pubic region.... veeeerrry slowly and with very small strips... This could take hours... Link to post Share on other sites
Eclypse Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I personally don't see anything wrong with having fun and easy going as some of your criteria. Honestly who wants to be walking on eggshells the whole time? If you really are having so much conflict perhaps the relationship is not right for you. It just seems like everything in this thread is being expressed in a "you" and "me" fashion. A relationship should be about "us". My ideal woman is someone who is pretty, intelligent and playful. We should be able to get along easily and have fun together. We should share similar opinions on a lot of things, and the ones we don't we should be able to listen to and accept the other persons view without getting into conflict. She should be polite and respectful to me, just as I am to her. Link to post Share on other sites
Sanman Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Dear god, you people need to stop over-analyzing everything. Woggle was quoting me when he said 'easy to live with' and I meant it quite literally. My gf is supportive and understanding of me and I am the same way with her. She is very easygoing. She does not flip out and blame me at the every change of plans or thing she doesn't like. For example, if I said: "Babe, I know we were supposed to go out to dinner tonight, but I have to catch on up on work and am exhausted. Do you mind if we stay in?" My easy-going gf usually says, "No problem babe, do you feel like Chinese or pizza? Go take a nap, I'll order food and then join you". Some of the not so easy-going women have said, " God, you never make time for us. Why do you have to work so much. You promised we would go out". I say the same things to her when she is a bit overwhelmed and needs support. We both realize how to support each other and not make a situation worse by making it about us. It has nothing to do with hiding opinions/deferring and everything to do with supporting your partner. One answer is support/relief for your partner and the other adds conflict and anxiety to a person that is already overwhelmed. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Other then Metis's very creepy post..... A real woman cries "ouch" when you pinch her. Link to post Share on other sites
phillyfan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This is a spinoff of musemaj11's topic. So while there's this list of what "real men" do, what should be the list of what "real women" should be like? I invite men and women to offer up to this. Just be realistic though. Fire away... Dude there aint no list, just 'be cool n treat eachother rite', thats it thats all u need 2 know, girl or guy. Some workin out also helps Link to post Share on other sites
phillyfan Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A real woman willingly shaves or waxes her pubic region on a regular basis to please her man without shaming or accusing him of being a pedophile. Dude my ex did that cos she said she liked it betta thn hair evrywhere, she didnt do it 4 me. Man u dudes on here make everythin complicated. Link to post Share on other sites
Negative Nancy Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) real women cook, keep the house clean and keep their mouth shut. look at the famous/infamous "perfect housewife" manual from the 50s that's floating around on the internet somewhere. Edited November 8, 2011 by Negative Nancy Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Dude there aint no list, just 'be cool n treat eachother rite', thats it thats all u need 2 know, girl or guy. Some workin out also helps Dude my ex did that cos she said she liked it betta thn hair evrywhere, she didnt do it 4 me. Man u dudes on here make everythin complicated. phillyfan gets it 'rite' Link to post Share on other sites
tigressA Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 phillyfan gets it 'rite' I agree! I like a lot of his posts, they are real gems. Link to post Share on other sites
oaks Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Real women are individuals. So are real men. Thank goodness. Link to post Share on other sites
Lostinlife4now Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 For the record, this list is not comprised of things I necessarily find to be negative, and I "am" quite a few of them myself. As with the "real men" list, though, I believe that it is wrong for a person's worth to be determined by how well they & their behavior conform to the traditional gender roles. Real women are nurturing. Real women love children and have maternal feelings. Real women are sensitive. Real women have domestic skills. Real women have a responsibility to look as pretty as possible. Real women know when to take a back seat to any man. Real women have good personal hygiene. Real women don't use foul language. Real women are often not rational. Real women are mysterious. Real women are catty. Real women are poor at maths and science. Real women are nesters. Real women know how to make a man feel like a real man. Real women put themselves last in a family. Real women gossip. Real women love shopping. Real women are whimsical. Real women see themselves through the eyes of men. PERFECTLY SAID!!!!!!!! Mme. Chaucer!!!!! :D Link to post Share on other sites
Lostinlife4now Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Three things that I have learned over the years about being "A REAL WOMAN"! Be a Lady in the Parlor, A Chef in the Kitchen and a Whore in the Bedroom! Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So called "women" these days can't cook, clean, or stop nagging ( shut up )...attention whores and pathetic, insecure emotional vampires. Sometimes I wish I was gay..then i remember...gays are women in mens bodies...all the crap with zero power.... All Men have to do is take power back. Show none and give none to the females and their agenda of male emasculation. He's so dreamy. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 He's so dreamy. I know. Nothing like being called an attention-whore, pathetic, insecure, emotional vampire, to make you forget all other men (and start scrubbing the bathroom, sign up for cooking lessons...). Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Dude there aint no list, just 'be cool n treat eachother rite', thats it thats all u need 2 know, girl or guy. Some workin out also helps I'm a confirmed fan of phillyfan. Really. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm a confirmed fan of phillyfan. Really. Me too. I've just read some of his old posts too. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm a confirmed fan of phillyfan. Really. No b.s., no chip on shoulder, always kind. Thank you, phillyfan. You are an appreciated voice here. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I want ask the women a question. Would you want to live with a man who had a constant attitude and felt a constant need to disrespect you just to show how independent he is? Would you want a man who started fights for no reason and thought it was beneath him to treat you well? I seriously doubt you would so why is a man wrong for not wanting the same in a woman? I wouldn't, but I wouldn't do that to a man, either. I was attracted to someone when he was nice, warm, got along well with me... when he showed his bitterness, when he acted like a tool, I didn't like him. Link to post Share on other sites
aj22one Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Led Zeppelin said it best: "need a woman gonna hold my hand, and tell me no lies make me a happy man". Link to post Share on other sites
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