cerridwen Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hey Shannon, yes he is a hottie:love: but I just want to stay away from younger men in general. It's very hard to find that intellectual compatibility you need to have, even when dealing with a FWB situation... I doubt it would just be a ONS with him IF I did pursue but that's besides the point. I've been there, done that and I'm finding that I prefer men closer to my age. They're just more mature/experienced (in general). Lil, I unknowingly dated a guy 11.5 years younger than me. ELEVEN! He told me he was 28 when he was really turning 19. It didn't work out . But it was hilarious while it lasted. So, am I understanding you correctly and you're after a relationship? Sure Mr. Washboard is of no interest to you, hmmm? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lil1 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Lil, I unknowingly dated a guy 11.5 years younger than me. ELEVEN! He told me he was 28 when he was really turning 19. It didn't work out . But it was hilarious while it lasted. So, am I understanding you correctly and you're after a relationship? Sure Mr. Washboard is of no interest to you, hmmm? OMG Cerridwen, I've been there before too lmao!!! and I'm glad I'm not the only one! haha! too funny! 24 thankfully is not as young as 19... BUT he is still too young for me! I really only created this post to point out the ridiculous double standars we as a society choose to support and the females always get a raw deal. Also because that was the first time a guy has ever thrown himself at me so blatantly but also so successfully;) I'm pretty sure I won't end up in bed with him (like 95% sure, but temptation is a bitch, especially when I see him from time to time lol!) - expect a steamy & detailed PM from me if I do Cerri lol!!! Thank you all for your very interesting thoughts on double standards between male and female 'sluts'... most of you agree that it is a double standard but no one really cares. I just think it's interesting how we as a society uphold/support these double standards (myself included) between genders. Females always get a raw deal, in my opinion. So who is to blame? The prostitute or the one who pays for one? In my specific case, who is the bigger slut, the one who threw himself at me, or me for having a ONS with a man who threw himself at me? Better to abstain all together and not feed into that kind of behavior right? yeah... sure! Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I know some guys almost naturally have those washboard abs, but for the other 99% it's incredibly difficult to get and maintain. All of the guys who I know currently have that use steroids to keep it. You must know some lame guys if they need steroids to get abs. Abs is all about lowering body fat percentage. Calories in, calories out. Its simple. Add some cardio and you burn calorie and increase calories out. Steroids are unnecessary for abs. The guys you know are noobs. Steroids are more so for building muscle, not burning fat. I went to college on a scholarship for rowing. I would be out on the water at 4am every day except Sunday for 3 hours of intense cardio. Then at lunch I would spend 1 hour weightlifting, and in the late evening I would run 6-9 miles. I did that routine for over 1 year and still did not have a 6pak. However, I had to cut down to 160lbs... when I typically weigh 180 at 7% bodyfat, and suddenly my abs show up. I have to cut down to 1000 calories a day to maintain that look.Lol I highly doubt someone at 7% body fat has no abs. Either you werent doing ab strengthening workouts to make them have tone, or you really wereant at 7% body fat. Gotta watch your calories and how much fat is in the calories you do take in. Some guys NEED lots of female attention. This is a great way to get it. I have so much going for me... I just don't need the abs. I feel you. But any girl will tell ya its a nice plus . Plus its a really great way to meet girls during beach season Link to post Share on other sites
nofool4u Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not sure if this is the right forum for this but I just have one question: How is a man perceived if he flirts with women in a very blatant, unabashed, highly sexual way? I perceive them as player jackasses. Women will end up sleeping with them anyway, and then complaining about being treated like crap later. Link to post Share on other sites
akazid Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 You are missing the boat as well. Most people find the model version of "big" to be sexy. Not the bodybuilding version that takes years and years of training and muscle maturity. I'm not talking about the 'bodybuilding version'. Most of those 'versions' are unnantural. I'm talking athletic / normal weight / low fat percentage. 8 months is more than enough, for someone to end up looking like brad pitt in fight club or Snatch, if they train hard and eat well. Or someone like cristiano ronaldo. Thats the type of body women like most and will call the guy big and ripped. The Cristino ROnaldo is actually what I'm talking about (Had to check the name and the look). That look/muscle takes a while to develop. A good 4-8 years without any supplements, if not more (Consider how long he's been training ... 20+ years probably? ... of which at least the last 14 have been super intensive?). More than likely Cristiano does not take protein/carb supplements. Why? He's a striker. Look at his body. I'd be surprised if he goes to the gym more than speed training. There's no way someone can get the abs of Cristian Ronaldo in 8 months unless they already have a solid foundation and even then it'd be hard, if not short of impossible. Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_K Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The Cristino ROnaldo is actually what I'm talking about (Had to check the name and the look). That look/muscle takes a while to develop. A good 4-8 years without any supplements, if not more (Consider how long he's been training ... 20+ years probably? ... of which at least the last 14 have been super intensive?). More than likely Cristiano does not take protein/carb supplements. Why? He's a striker. Look at his body. I'd be surprised if he goes to the gym more than speed training. There's no way someone can get the abs of Cristian Ronaldo in 8 months unless they already have a solid foundation and even then it'd be hard, if not short of impossible. Christiano Ronaldo is about 190lbs... the guy is pretty damn big, and cut. Looking like that will take years. Brad Pitt in fight club however, was only 150-160lbs. That could be achieved in less than a year if you're in reasonable shape to start with. You'd still look great topless, people just wouldn't know it when you've got your shirt on. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I'm not talking about the 'bodybuilding version'. Most of those 'versions' are unnantural. I'm talking athletic / normal weight / low fat percentage.My point still stands. That doesnt take forever to build The Cristino ROnaldo is actually what I'm talking about (Had to check the name and the look). That look/muscle takes a while to develop. A good 4-8 years without any supplements, if not more (Consider how long he's been training ... 20+ years probably? Are you serious? You know nothing about Ronaldo. He was a small kid at 18 when he first go to Manchester United, and blew up in 1 year with hard training. Plus he was still a growing boy back then. There are also tons of dudes on a few fitness forums I frequent who didnt take years to get into great shape. Genetics and hard training play a huge part. Someone with great genetics can make great gains in a short time. ... of which at least the last 14 have been super intensive?). More than likely Cristiano does not take protein/carb supplements. Why? He's a striker. Look at his body. I'd be surprised if he goes to the gym more than speed training. Again, Ronaldo wasnt lifting the way he does now until he was in his late teens, around almost 20 years of age. He trained in the past, but def not the same way he was in his early twenties until now. All you have to do is see older pics of him. There's no way someone can get the abs of Cristian Ronaldo in 8 months unless they already have a solid foundation and even then it'd be hard, if not short of impossible.Lmao, join a fitness forum dude and get some knowledge. Join a gym and talk to some guys who know their stuff. You can get him abs for sure in 8 months. Look what p90x does to people in 3 months. Gimme a break. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Christiano Ronaldo is about 190lbs... the guy is pretty damn big, and cut. Looking like that will take years. Brad Pitt in fight club however, was only 150-160lbs. That could be achieved in less than a year if you're in reasonable shape to start with. You'd still look great topless, people just wouldn't know it when you've got your shirt on. Ronaldo has had a casual build up over the years, but its possible for someone with good genetics who isnt already totally out of shape, to get close to his size in less than 2 years. The guy isnt necesarily huge, but is well built. His arms and legs could be bigger. I dont think they match up to his massive torso. And according to his ESPN profile, Ronaldo only weighs 165 pounds. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/22774/cristiano-dos-santos-aveiro-ronaldo?cc=5901 That totally surprised me because hes built rather well and stands at 6'1. I stand at 5'9 and weighed 175 pounds a few months ago when I started working out again. Heres a picture from when I started. I need to take new ones though to show my progress. Ive only gained about 7 lbs since then and my goal was to get more cut while adding some, but not too much muscle. http://i41.tinypic.com/1h76td.jpg Considering how much bigger Ronaldo was than me, and being 4 inches taller, I cant understand how I weigh more than him. He has more lean muscle and we both dont have a huge amount of body fat. Link to post Share on other sites
akazid Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 2003 body http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-shirtless-body-2003.jpg 2004 body http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-body-and-soljskaer-in-manchester-united-2004.jpg http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-euro2004-portugal-shirtless-body-after-match.jpg http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-euro2004-portugal-shirtless-body-celebrating-goal-picture5.jpg Starts lifting: 2005-2006 ody http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-body-manchester-united-2005-2006-photo-picture.jpg 2007 body http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-body-manchester-united-2006-2007-picture-photo2.jpg 2008 body http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-body-tan-vacations-2007-2008.jpg http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-body-manchester-united-2007-2008-photo.jpg 2009-2010 http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-real-madrid-body-2009-2010-picture1.jpg 2010-2011 http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-real-madrid-shirtless-body-2010-2011-pre-season.jpg My point still stands. That doesnt take forever to build Are you serious? You know nothing about Ronaldo. He was a small kid at 18 when he first go to Manchester United, and blew up in 1 year with hard training. Plus he was still a growing boy back then. There are also tons of dudes on a few fitness forums I frequent who didnt take years to get into great shape. Genetics and hard training play a huge part. Someone with great genetics can make great gains in a short time. Again, Ronaldo wasnt lifting the way he does now until he was in his late teens, around almost 20 years of age. He trained in the past, but def not the same way he was in his early twenties until now. All you have to do is see older pics of him. Lmao, join a fitness forum dude and get some knowledge. Join a gym and talk to some guys who know their stuff. You can get him abs for sure in 8 months. Look what p90x does to people in 3 months. Gimme a break. Ronaldo has been lifting for 5 years to get to the point he's at now. Not only that, he's been doing serious aerobic/anarobic cardio since at least 2003. His body requires WAY more calories than yours to maintain in an idle state. From 2003 to 2011 (or from 2005-2011) it clearly is not 'blowing up' in 1 year. He's nowhere near bulky and has a very athletic look. Also, this photo: http://i41.tinypic.com/1h76td.jpg Is not of a 'ripped' / 'athletic' body. It's casual weight building for someone that takes care of oneself. You may be able to lift heavy weights but it isn't athletic. If you note from Ronaldo's initial photos he's always 'ripped' due to his low fat %. That's athletic. If you'd start to 'cut' to get ripped you'd be in the 2004/5 photo year range - about when Ronaldo started lifting. There's a huge difference difference between your bodies. Also, you state: My point still stands. That doesnt take forever to build Are you serious? You know nothing about Ronaldo. He was a small kid at 18 when he first go to Manchester United, and blew up in 1 year with hard training. Then you state this: Ronaldo has had a casual build up over the years, but its possible for someone with good genetics who isnt already totally out of shape, to get close to his size in less than 2 years. Make up your mind ... BTW, I can understand someone with your body getting his abs within 8 months with hard work and dedication. Someone who has led a sedetary life no way. Link to post Share on other sites
diskostu Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 ronaldo is a poor example for anything as he is a footballer. he actually needs to keep muscle mass growth in check, as it could reduce flexibility and staminia. here's an article that explains human limits in terms of muscular growth: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Ronaldo has been lifting for 5 years to get to the point he's at now. Not only that, he's been doing serious aerobic/anarobic cardio since at least 2003. His body requires WAY more calories than yours to maintain in an idle state. Are you daft? I said that hes progressed over the years, has great genetics, and was STILL a growing boy and young man when he started. Hes only 26, and male testosterone levels peak in their mid 20s. So you arent negating anything I said. You are simply stating what I said. Btw Id have to take in the same if not more calories to get as big as ronaldo. My metabolism is def faster than his. If I was as big as he was, id weigh a good 35 pounds more than him, considering Im already heavier than he is despite being shorter and thinner. YOU are the one who originally said itd take years and years to build his physique. Look here: The Cristino ROnaldo is actually what I'm talking about (Had to check the name and the look). That look/muscle takes a while to develop. A good 4-8 years without any supplements, if not more (Consider how long he's been training ... 20+ years probably? ... of which at least the last 14 have been super intensive?). More than likely Cristiano does not take protein/carb supplements. Why? He's a striker. Look at his body. I'd be surprised if he goes to the gym more than speed training. You said 20 years, not 5 years and still growing naturally. You said without supplements as well. I know a couple people who have done p90x and insanity, and those programs get you in great shape very quickly, and if you keep it up you can get pretty big in a year, esp with all the fat they burn off. And why wouldnt Ronaldo and others use supplements to augment their programs? Obviously most pro athletes use them. Theres no way someone can get the abs of Cristian Ronaldo in 8 months unless they already have a solid foundation and even then it'd be hard, if not short of impossible.If thats the case, then why have I seen people do it? Its not impossible to do if you train hard and eat right. You dont seem to know much about fitness. Plus ronaldo isnt super big anyways, hes just really defined. His definition can be easily had with the right diet and cardio. From 2003 to 2011 (or from 2005-2011) it clearly is not 'blowing up' in 1 year. He's nowhere near bulky and has a very athletic look. I still stand by my statement that its indeed possible to Ronaldo 'big' in a year with good diet and proper training. Go check out some of the progress photos of people on bodybuilding.com or muscleandstrength.com. The guy isnt huge and it doesnt take forever to get that size. He obviously isnt trying to build a lot of muscle when compared to dudes who lift for size. Also, this photo: http://i41.tinypic.com/1h76td.jpg Is not of a 'ripped' / 'athletic' body. It's casual weight building for someone that takes care of oneself. You may be able to lift heavy weights but it isn't athletic. If you note from Ronaldo's initial photos he's always 'ripped' due to his low fat %. That's athletic. If you'd start to 'cut' to get ripped you'd be in the 2004/5 photo year range - about when Ronaldo started lifting. There's a huge difference difference between your bodies.I never said I was super ripped or athletic THREE MONTHS AGO when that picture was taken. That was my starter shot...and a comparison to Ronaldo. It was shown to make a comparison of me weighing more then him despite his size over me. I obviously never said our bodies are the same, but you cant read it seems. I did say that its odd that he weighs so little for his size. Also, you state:My point still stands. That doesnt take forever to build Are you serious? You know nothing about Ronaldo. He was a small kid at 18 when he first go to Manchester United, and blew up in 1 year with hard training. I mispoke, but he still got rather big over a couple years during his initial building. Funny how you were the one who said it takes 20 years of training to get as big as him, but now you back track. Btw 2011 ronaldo is hardly bigger than he was in 2007. And he had only been lifting 2 years at that time. If anything, his flexing makes him appear much larger, but its only slightly so. His size isnt huge and doesnt take a long amount of time. Like the poster above me says, he has to keep his size in check. Ronaldo goes for a model look anyways because of his vanity and his profession as well. He isnt trying to get huge year after year. Then you state this: Ronaldo has had a casual build up over the years, but its possible for someone with good genetics who isnt already totally out of shape, to get close to his size in less than 2 years. Make up your mind ... BTW, I can understand someone with your body getting his abs within 8 months with hard work and dedication. Someone who has led a sedetary life no way. I stand by what I said. Ronaldo isnt that big, and you can certainly get to be his size in a year depending on your training and genetics. The abs can be easily done too with the right diet and good training. You really wanna tell me its impossible for an out of shape person to start working out hard and getting his abs in 8 months? When people do p90x and get super results in 3 months? An average sized person could get great abs in all the time they have in 8 months, and pack on a lot of muscle in one year as well. Its not impossible. You really need to check out some of the transformation photos on those fitness sites I mentioned. Btw, my body has looked like that pic I linked since high school. And before it was taken 3 months ago, I hadnt worked out diligently since I was 20, and Im 25 now. So its not like Ive been keeping a solid base going. I just have good genetics that keep me slim and hold onto a little muscle well. If I bust my ass this year, I can def get as big as Ronaldo, and could prolly muscle him around the pitch because Id weigh a bunch more than him if I had his size. I already have 15 pounds on the guy, and will prolly have about 30 lbs on him by the end of the year if I do everything right. Edited January 21, 2012 by kaylan Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_K Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Real Madrid's website is likely to be more up to date and puts him at 84.5kg, which is 186lbs http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202773887674/jugador/Jugador/Cristiano_Ronaldo.htm I suspect the 160 figure is from closer to 2004 Link to post Share on other sites
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