I want to adopt Daisy (pics included)

[RecordProducer]

The current owner has decided to place her in a house with a fenced backyard. Why do they even care??? :mad: She would have been walked a lot and gotten lots of love from us.

 

I am so disappointed.

Edited February 12, 2012 by RecordProducer

[carhill]

Sorry to read that. I'm sure another one will come along. During my M we 'rescued' a few dogs, giving them a taste of freedom and country life before placing them with loving families. I recall one dachshund we took in who had rarely been out of his crate (the owners crated him all day while they worked) and he couldn't even jump on the sofa. After a month or two of country life, he was back to his normal spry self, in good spirits, and ended up the wonderful companion of a good friend's daughter.

 

Good luck.

[RecordProducer]

I recall one dachshund we took in who had rarely been out of his crate (the owners crated him all day while they worked)

OMG, that's horrible.

and he couldn't even jump on the sofa.

Well, they do kinda have short legs!

[Ross MwcFan]

Cute dog.

[carhill]

This is true (short legs), however a healthy dachshund is generally an energetic dog which can easily jump onto sofa, bed or into a car, all of which this one did after a lot of walking and freedom to exercise. Being crated literally hobbled the dog. BTW, the people gave us the crate too, which I never used and had to train the dog not to go into/look for, otherwise he would spend all day in there/looking for it. The dog also served as a therapy dog for my mom while we had him. He reminded her of the dachshund we had when I was a child.

 

Hopefully a new opportunity will present itself. Animals are always looking for loving homes.

[Pyro]

There are purebreed dog rescues for every breed of dog. Check petfinders.com for adoptable dogs of any particular breed in your area.

 

I know that there are but we plan on rescuing from the local shelter here and pretty much every dog there is a mix, so chances are the dog will not be a purebred.

[RecordProducer]

The agencies are nuts! They ask for vet references or 3 personal references. Some ask for fenced or electric yards - some say electric fences not allowed. Some request you're from a certain community, and some say they need to check your home and all your household members must come to pick up the dog. With all that, most ask for $250-3500 re-homing fee.

 

You know what? GO F*CK YOURSELVES, DOG "RESCUE" BUTTHEADS!!! :mad:

 

I am BUYING a dog from a pure, greedy capitalist dog breeder. Yes, the one that quit their boring 9-5 jobs and decided that dogs are great business. Those shelters, they are murderers: they kill dogs because nobody took them but they won't give them to you. No, you aren't coming to my house to check if I have humane conditions for a dog! If I say I live in a 2-bedroom condo, either believe me or google it. I have children, and nobody came to check how I am keeping them or feeding them. Go f*ck yourselves!

 

My mom is pissed, too. If she finds an agency that is not going to look inside our buttholes to check if they smell good enough for the dog, we'll get one from a shelter. Otherwise, we'll just get one directly from an owner or buy one from a breeder.

[quankanne]

sorry you're having so much trouble trying to be a good, potential dog-mama ... have you considered going to a smaller city nearby and either searching the city or county shelters? Most of them are happy to be able to save the life of an animal and don't require anything more than the assurance you'll spay/neuter your pet ~ here, the hefty adoption fee (under $100) goes toward spay/neuter services.

 

our first dog that we adopted as a couple was from a small-town animal pound, where I'd go every week to take pictures of the "pet of the week" our paper ran in hopes of spurring people to adopt. One of the mama dogs had a litter of 8-9 pups that would be put down if they weren't adopted, and I fell in love with a little girl we named Maisie. Because they were familiar with me from my job, they agreed to hold her another week so I could get up the bail money to spring her from the pound. If I remember correctly, I got like $20 back from them when i showed them the receipt from the vet's office saying I had her spayed.

 

so definitely think smaller places, because the folks hate the idea of having to put down a perfectly good animal simply because they can't board it anymore ...

[RecordProducer]

have you considered going to a smaller city nearby and either searching the city or county shelters?

I looked at all the shelters on the web within an hour distance. Actually the small-town ones probably have worse requirements. Obviously they have too many applicants or they wouldn't be so picky, but then they plea for someone to come and get the dogs that are going to a gas chamber. Murderers! If they would let more people adopt dogs, they wouldn't have to put anyone down. Their logic is obviously to find the best adopters for the cute dogs and murder the rest. Sorry, but any person's home is a better place for a dog than a gas chamber!

 

"Sorry, you're not suitable because you don't have a fenced yard. Oh, and you're not suitable because you work full time. These dogs are going to be murdered by us. We are working really hard to place these dogs in the best home: death!"

 

As*holes! They don't rescue dogs. They have control over their lives, they play with people, and then they kill the poor dogs. Someone should call them their right name: murderers. If they have put even one dog down - and if they have rejected even one potential adopter for an unrelated dog, they're responsible for murdering that dog.

 

But, hey, people do this to human children, too: they take them from their homes because their parents are alocoholics and they put them in foster care with parents who are alcoholics, child molesters and trash who leach the government for money of off those kids.

 

People are dirty, stinky control freaks!

 

I just feel sorry for Daisy. I wonder what's going to happen to her and some of her fellow dog citizens. They should've let HER decide if she liked us.

Edited February 13, 2012 by RecordProducer

[gaius]

You know what? GO F*CK YOURSELVES, DOG "RESCUE" BUTTHEADS!!! :mad:

Well said! You aren't the only one that's been having this problem lately, it's getting out of control.

 

“My friend M., who looked into getting a family dog when her children were 6 and 9, had a similarly vexing experience. After she and her husband decided rescue was the right thing to do, they looked online and found a mutt named Rusty. Rusty’s rescue group was having an adoption day and the family made the long drive to see him. Adopters were told not to mingle with the animals, but that specific dogs would be brought to them. While Rusty was otherwise engaged, M. asked if they could look at some of the other dogs but almost all were declared not suitable for children. As the family waited, the children sat on the ground and started writing in the dirt with sticks. A volunteer came over, alarmed. He reprimanded them, saying that if a dog sees a stick in a person’s hand it will expect that stick to be thrown, and it’s not fair to frustrate a dog.

 

Eventually, Rusty was brought over. He was a little hyper but everyone agreed he was fine. M. told the rescue group they wanted him, and when the family returned home they started buying dog supplies. But a call from the group aborted their plans. “We had a report about inappropriate behavior by your children,” M. was told, which meant they would not be allowed to adopt."

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/heavy_petting/2012/01/animal_rescue_want_to_adopt_a_dog_or_cat_prepare_for_an_inquisition_.html

 

And people like this are actually given power and taken seriously! Hope the owner comes to their senses or you manage to find a cute dog that's perfect for you Record. The new ones can have a way of growing on you very quickly.

Edited February 13, 2012 by gaius

[HeavenOrHell]

Would the dog have been on her own all day 5 days a week if you'd adopted her? I think it's fair enough if this was one reason you were turned down. Dogs need much more company than that, I hate when I hear how dogs are left alone all day, people who have full time jobs shouldn't have dogs, end of, unless they have someone coming in to keep the dog company. Would you like to be stuck in for 9 hours a day on your own, 5 days a week? It seems people expect the dog to cross its legs all day as well if there's no-one to let it out for a pee.

Why would a shelter want a dog to have a yard which gives him electric shocks if he touches it?! That would stress any dog out.

 

Of course shelters want the best home possible, not only are there many homes/people which aren't suited to having a dog, there are some horrible people out there, if they get it wrong it's the dog which suffers, and of course the shelter then gets a bad name, but if they have to resort to euthanising when there is a shortage of appropriate owners they get a bad name too. They're hardly euthanising them for the fun of it.

 

 

 

I looked at all the shelters on the web within an hour distance. Actually the small-town ones probably have worse requirements. Obviously they have too many applicants or they wouldn't be so picky, but then they plea for someone to come and get the dogs that are going to a gas chamber. Murderers! If they would let more people adopt dogs, they wouldn't have to put anyone down. Their logic is obviously to find the best adopters for the cute dogs and murder the rest. Sorry, but any person's home is a better place for a dog than a gas chamber!

 

"Sorry, you're not suitable because you don't have a fenced yard. Oh, and you're not suitable because you work full time. These dogs are going to be murdered by us. We are working really hard to place these dogs in the best home: death!"

 

As*holes! They don't rescue dogs. They have control over their lives, they play with people, and then they kill the poor dogs. Someone should call them their right name: murderers. If they have put even one dog down - and if they have rejected even one potential adopter for an unrelated dog, they're responsible for murdering that dog.

 

But, hey, people do this to human children, too: they take them from their homes because their parents are alocoholics and they put them in foster care with parents who are alcoholics, child molesters and trash who leach the government for money of off those kids.

 

People are dirty, stinky control freaks!

 

I just feel sorry for Daisy. I wonder what's going to happen to her and some of her fellow dog citizens. They should've let HER decide if she liked us.

[mickleb]

The agencies are nuts! They ask for vet references or 3 personal references. Some ask for fenced or electric yards - some say electric fences not allowed. Some request you're from a certain community, and some say they need to check your home and all your household members must come to pick up the dog. With all that, most ask for $250-3500 re-homing fee.

 

You know what? GO F*CK YOURSELVES, DOG "RESCUE" BUTTHEADS!!! :mad:

 

I am BUYING a dog from a pure, greedy capitalist dog breeder. Yes, the one that quit their boring 9-5 jobs and decided that dogs are great business. Those shelters, they are murderers: they kill dogs because nobody took them but they won't give them to you. No, you aren't coming to my house to check if I have humane conditions for a dog! If I say I live in a 2-bedroom condo, either believe me or google it. I have children, and nobody came to check how I am keeping them or feeding them. Go f*ck yourselves!

 

My mom is pissed, too. If she finds an agency that is not going to look inside our buttholes to check if they smell good enough for the dog, we'll get one from a shelter. Otherwise, we'll just get one directly from an owner or buy one from a breeder.

 

I looked at all the shelters on the web within an hour distance. Actually the small-town ones probably have worse requirements. Obviously they have too many applicants or they wouldn't be so picky, but then they plea for someone to come and get the dogs that are going to a gas chamber. Murderers! If they would let more people adopt dogs, they wouldn't have to put anyone down. Their logic is obviously to find the best adopters for the cute dogs and murder the rest. Sorry, but any person's home is a better place for a dog than a gas chamber!

 

"Sorry, you're not suitable because you don't have a fenced yard. Oh, and you're not suitable because you work full time. These dogs are going to be murdered by us. We are working really hard to place these dogs in the best home: death!"

 

As*holes! They don't rescue dogs. They have control over their lives, they play with people, and then they kill the poor dogs. Someone should call them their right name: murderers. If they have put even one dog down - and if they have rejected even one potential adopter for an unrelated dog, they're responsible for murdering that dog.

 

But, hey, people do this to human children, too: they take them from their homes because their parents are alocoholics and they put them in foster care with parents who are alcoholics, child molesters and trash who leach the government for money of off those kids.

 

People are dirty, stinky control freaks!

 

I just feel sorry for Daisy. I wonder what's going to happen to her and some of her fellow dog citizens. They should've let HER decide if she liked us.

 

I'm sorry but I find both of these posts extremely childish.

 

Don't create a new life unnecessarily. Try volunteering in a shelter to prove you are a responsible adult. Your response to the decision of Daisy being placed in a home that has a back yard, suggests you're not being one, right now. If I had to rehome a dog with that choice, I'd have made the same decision.

 

You should be happy Daisy has gone to a suitable placement.

[RecordProducer]

He reprimanded them, saying that if a dog sees a stick in a person’s hand it will expect that stick to be thrown, and it’s not fair to frustrate a dog.

I thought he'd say the abused dogs may be scared but the dogs would be frustrated because they would hope to play?????? Well, they cut all hope for Rusty to ever play with those kids. Nobody is perfect, but if they make up "inappropriate behavior" which is not inappropriate at all, then they're nothing but psychopaths and control freaks. They take abused dogs and take advantage of their nature (the fact that they can't speak and sue those as*holes for emotional distress).

 

They are worse than the owners who abuse and neglect animals because they represent themselves falsely as dog lovers while they just play gods at the expense of those poor dogs and the good people who want to adopt them. I wonder if some financial motive is behind all that?

 

Sticks in the dirt was inapropriate behavior... Damn. Lets treat the family like they have kids who just tried to skin a cat.

 

Seriously these shelters are run by animal hoarders and anit social psychopaths. Some normal great people too!

Now I know why they work with animals: because people will neither socialize with them nor obey their rules.

 

Look at this link,Idon'tknowif it's true but, it makes your skin crawl:

http://www.animal-abusesite.info/shelters.html

[2sunny]

Dont take it personally RP... There are other dogs in the world that need a home.

 

Obviously - this wasn't the right dog or the right timing. It will come when it's supposed to! ;-)

[RecordProducer]

Would the dog have been on her own all day 5 days a week if you'd adopted her?

No, I live with my mom who is retired and relatively young.

They're hardly euthanising them for the fun of it

I don't care if they're having fun when they reject adopters and then kill those dogs. Eutanasia is mercy killing for the purpose of ending somebody's enormous physical pain when death is imminent - and dogs killed in shelters is far from anything merciful!

Don't create a new life unnecessarily.

I wasn't going to give birth to a dog.

 

Try volunteering in a shelter to prove you are a responsible adult.

I need to volunteer at a shelter to prove that I am a responsible adult?! I've done othr things to prove I am a responsible adult, like finished elementary school and play Warfare.

 

You should be happy Daisy has gone to a suitable placement.

Daisy was not placed anywhere!

Dont take it personally RP... There are other dogs in the world that need a home.

 

Obviously - this wasn't the right dog or the right timing. It will come when it's supposed to! ;-)

It pisses me off that most shelters have these stupid requirements while killing poor animals.

[quankanne]

I wasn't going to give birth to a dog. I think I just peed myself :lmao:

 

seriously? Even the smaller places are giving out sass to prospective owners? Crap! Maybe you're better off going to a WalMart or Target parking lot and picking up a dog there ~ the people are just happy their puppies are getting a home where someone obviously wants them!

 

last suggestion: What about a vet's office? Sometimes I see fliers on the bulletin board at ours, with "please take a kitten, we've got a bumper crop" or "having to move and dog cannot go with us, we're looking for a loving home to place her in" ... best part is that you already have the vet's office acting as an intermediary since it's someplace you will/do use and so do they.

 

*sigh* has it really changed that much from when we adopted our last dog? That's just sad, thinking so many possible matches prevented by idiot bureaucrats who claim to have a pet's "best interests" in mind!

[HeavenOrHell]

You said earlier >The current owner has decided to place her in a house with a fenced backyard<

 

So, clearly just because you're not having her, she will be rehomed elsewhere, maybe they just didn't like your attitude.

 

If you buy a dog from a breeder or pet shop this in effect means a dog in a shelter will lose out on a home and may be be euthanised, there aren't enough suitable homes, there are thousands/millions of animals needing suitable homes all over the world.

 

It's not true that any home (except abusive or neglectful homes) are better than none, many dogs would be miserable alone for 9 or 10 hours a day.

 

 

No, I live with my mom who is retired and relatively young.

I don't care if they're having fun when they reject adopters and then kill those dogs. Eutanasia is mercy killing for the purpose of ending somebody's enormous physical pain when death is imminent - and dogs killed in shelters is far from anything merciful!

I wasn't going to give birth to a dog.

 

I need to volunteer at a shelter to prove that I am a responsible adult?! I've done othr things to prove I am a responsible adult, like finished elementary school and play Warfare.

 

Daisy was not placed anywhere!

It pisses me off that most shelters have these stupid requirements while killing poor animals.

[RecordProducer]

I wasn't going to give birth to a dog. I think I just peed myself :lmao:

 

seriously? Even the smaller places are giving out sass to prospective owners? Crap! Maybe you're better off going to a WalMart or Target parking lot and picking up a dog there ~ the people are just happy their puppies are getting a home where someone obviously wants them!

 

last suggestion: What about a vet's office? Sometimes I see fliers on the bulletin board at ours, with "please take a kitten, we've got a bumper crop" or "having to move and dog cannot go with us, we're looking for a loving home to place her in" ... best part is that you already have the vet's office acting as an intermediary since it's someplace you will/do use and so do they.

 

*sigh* has it really changed that much from when we adopted our last dog? That's just sad, thinking so many possible matches prevented by idiot bureaucrats who claim to have a pet's "best interests" in mind!

Thanks for the suggestions. We'll do what we need to do. Not all shelters are crazy, maybe we'll have to wait for the right match.

 

elsewhere, maybe they just didn't like your attitude.

 

If you buy a dog from a breeder or pet shop this in effect means a dog in a shelter will lose out on a home and may be be euthanised, there aren't enough suitable homes, there are thousands/millions of animals needing suitable homes all over the world.

A friend of mine bought a dog. She works/goes to school the same hours as me (very busy) and her fiance also works full-time; she doesn't have a mom at home like me. Her dog is very happy with her, but had she applied for a sheltered dog, she would've been rejected. The point of me buying from a breeder was IF the shelters impose requirements that I can't meet. I was rejected solely because we don't have a fenced yard.

 

No, I didn't have any attitude. I wrote them about how much I wanted Daisy. Obviously, I didn't write them "Hello, I would like to adopt Daisy and by the way, go f*ck yourselves." I wasn't even rude to them after they emailed me the bad news. Besides, even if someone has an attitude toward them, that doesn't make one unfit for a dog or life altogether. We all have an attitude sometimes when we get angry. I am not going to sit and watch the world do stupid things without getting angry. I became a lawyer because I want to fight against injustice; so, no, I am not going to volunteer to drag dogs to gas chambers and brutally kill them like a Nazi - and call myself a responsible adult for that very "deed."

It's not true that any home (except abusive or neglectful homes) are better than none, many dogs would be miserable alone for 9 or 10 hours a day.

Then maybe they should send those dogs to the hungry children in Africa!

So, you're saying it's better to kill a dog than to give it to my friend and her fiance?

Edited February 14, 2012 by RecordProducer

[gaius]

Then maybe they should send those dogs to the hungry children in Africa!

So, you're saying it's better to kill a dog than to give it to my friend and her fiance?

Apparently so, rather than live in the misery that is not having your needs attended to every minute of the day. Here I thought my mother was doing me a favor by leaving me home alone after school so she could work to keep a roof over my head, but it really was total abuse! I feel gypped all of a sudden!

[Lostinlife4now]

Record Producer....

 

This is a story for your local new station! Call them or write them an e-mail and let them know what these shelters are doing! That is one of the ways you can get some results.

 

I have a girlfriend who goes around to these dungeons and rescues these dogs, she lives in New Jersey and she said these are worst of the worst.. She has rescued 50 dogs and placed them in good homes herself...She DOESN'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER...EVER....she threatens to turn them into anybody that would listen to her....

 

She even went to her local news station...I think it was a guy named Jim Donovan....and he helped her......

 

Don't give up!!!

 

Next time tell them anything they want to hear.....Let them come to your home......I would.... THEN I would KILL them with kindness.....

[Mme. Chaucer]

Just for a little different perspective:

 

I work with animals professionally, and I spent years volunteering at a "no kill" shelter that was very strict about where to place dogs. I felt (and still feel) that some of their requirements were unrealistic and also that the person interviewing the potential home often had a strong bias that affected the success or failure of the placement.

 

But …

 

EVERY dog in that place was there, one way or another, because the people who were so sure they wanted that dog in the first place ended up not being able, or not wanting to continue to care for it.

[RecordProducer]

Okay, somebody didn't want the dogs, but who authorized the shelters to kill those dogs while calling themselves rescuers??? If the government did that, I would understand; they would have an excuse: it's unsanitary or unsafe to keep stray dogs in the streets, if nobody wants them, we have to either take money from the taxpayers or terminate the dogs' lives - you, our constituents, can choose what you want us to do with your hard-earned money.

 

But these shelters are incorporated as non-profit organizations and they represent themselves as rescuers who re-home dogs - but who gave them the power to kill the dogs? The laws are changing and animal law is emerging, but dogs are still considered property. So, the shelters claim these dogs as their property. That's okay if somebody actually brings the dogs to them, but when they find them in the street, what authority do they have to keep the dogs? Obviously, the property law comes in place because they treat them as abandoned chattel. Property law allows you to destroy your own property as much as you want. So, they treat dogs like property.

 

But that's not what's bothering me because live chattel IS property. What bothers me is that one can go to jail for abusing an animal (which is great), but nobody punishes the ones who KILL animals - the same animals THEY undertook responsibility for and then said "sorry we don't have enough money to take care of them, we gotta kill them."

 

You can't kill dogs. Period. Those people are savages. They would probably do it to children if they only could.

Edited February 16, 2012 by RecordProducer

[2sunny]

Best to let it go RP...

[RecordProducer]

This is a story for your local new station! Call them or write them an e-mail and let them know what these shelters are doing! That is one of the ways you can get some results.

That's a great idea.

I have a girlfriend who goes around to these dungeons and rescues these dogs, she lives in New Jersey and she said these are worst of the worst.. She has rescued 50 dogs and placed them in good homes herself...She DOESN'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER...EVER....she threatens to turn them into anybody that would listen to her....

Good girl!

 

She even went to her local news station...I think it was a guy named Jim Donovan....and he helped her......

 

Don't give up!!!

 

Next time tell them anything they want to hear.....Let them come to your home......I would.... THEN I would KILL them with kindness.....

I have principals and I will not kiss their asses to save one dog. I am more likely to do what you suggested above and tell the shelters to kiss my ass. If I took a dog and then killed it because I couldno longer care for it, I'd be considered a monster. But they take many dogs voluntarily and then kill them if they can't take care of them. So, how are they different from the people who abandon theirown pets? They're worse.

 

What bothers me is that they allow themselves to say NO to people who want to home those dogs.

 

From the ASPCA website: ASPCA | Pet Statistics

 

More than 20 percent of people who leave dogs in shelters adopted them from a shelter. (Source: NCPPSP)

 

So, obviously they're wrong 20% of the timeregarding the placement of sheltered dogs. Maybe they should care more about the character of the owner than a fenced yard?

 

Five out of ten dogs in shelters and seven out of ten cats in shelters are destroyed simply because there is no one to adopt them.

 

And yet, they're not giving them to people who want them. 50% of dogs are killed. If notdaisy' then the next dog in line will end upin a gas chamber.

[mickleb]

I'm sure Daisy will be rehomed somewhere suitable soon. She's extremely cute, so there shouldn't be a problem.

 

The dogs that get put to sleep first are the ones that the shelters have difficulty rehoming. The ones that are not house-trained, have physical conditions, are old or who have behavioural problems. Would you be willing to rehome any of these? If you are, I'm sure you will be able to adopt a dog - explain you are looking for a hard-to-place animal because you feel so strongly about their right to live. And if a shelter refuses to give you a dog, saying it would be better off being put down, then you may have a story to take to the newspapers. This, of course, is dependent on you being able to prove you could take care of all the financial and care needs it has - if you can't of course, there is a significant risk the shelter would be handing a dog over to an owner that causes it suffering via neglect. The majority of people agree that an animal is better being put to sleep than suffering prolonged or significant harm. Shelters also want to place a dog in a 'forever home' as it gets harder to rehome dogs that have been placed several times. So, obviously, there is a lot of pressure on the shelters to make the right decision. Hence, there are rules in place to try to minimise these risks.

 

Some animal shelters can kill dogs. Period. There are not enough people prepared to take the ones that are difficult to rehome and, sadly, some shelters make the decision that it is deemed better to create space for a new stray that may be able to be rehomed (taking it away from the risk of dying of starvation, injury or disease), than to keep alive one that is consistently rejected.

 

Be the change you want to see, RP. If you don't like the law and are a lawyer, you could campaign about it - do something to promote awareness, through the channels that could make a difference. Perhaps the risk assessments of some shelters are too strict. Why don't you ask them about their policies and debate what you believe 'suffering' is with them? I'm sure you would find they don't make these decisions easily or joyfully. At the very least, try going to a forum such as Dogster and start a thread about what 'suffering' is deemed, by the majority, to be and which shelter rules you find too strict. You'll find many professionals there who can put forward their views. But don't be unrealistic or ignorant, or you'll be making angry, inflammatory statements about people who are volunteering their free time to do their best by all the stray dogs they come across, your whole life - or worse, creating a new life (yes I used that phrase again) unnecessarily - both of which make the problem much more about you than the dogs.

Edited February 16, 2012 by mickleb