Mme. Chaucer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Is it okay to say that you graduated from beauty college? Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Is it okay to say that you graduated from beauty college? Did you get a masters? Link to post Share on other sites
kiss_andmakeup Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I want to be a fly on the wall during a PhillyDude date (if they exist). I can only imagine the trainwreck-quality entertainment that would ensue. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 We highly educated types sometimes like in crowds. :eek: Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 And a master's degree if overrated for 2 reasons 1. So many people have them now So many people have them, and yet you don't. Hmph. You're...less than average? Link to post Share on other sites
Eternal Sunshine Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Actually, educated and intelligent men tend to care a lot. I care a lot too - the more advanced the degree the better. I met up with guys that didn't complete college and the quality of conversation was low. I also don't want to earn much more than my future partner. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why does it matter who makes more money? If hes able to be a self sustaining independent adult than thats all that matters. Would you love someone less if they made a little less money than you? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 So many people have them, and yet you don't. Hmph. You're...less than average? I still get calls for interviews so I'm cool with it Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'd say avoiding frenemies who relish seeing her fail or are happy about her trials in life due to their own insecurities would be first on her to-do list. Right after getting some resume coaching from someone who actually wants to see her succeed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why does it matter who makes more money? If hes able to be a self sustaining independent adult than thats all that matters. Would you love someone less if they made a little less money than you? Men misunderstand why many women are concerned about this. Yes, there are golddiggers out there. But for me personally, someone with an advanced education who does just fine for herself, it comes down to two things. First, the fact that most men feel emasculated when their woman is the provider/breadwinner. BTDT several times (dating men who made less than me, and had them have an issue with it), won't do it again. Second, I want a man who makes around what I do, so that we're equitable contributors - neither one of us relying on the other. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I still get calls for interviews so I'm cool with it I wasn't talking about average in employability-sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 OP - mainly, this thread has succeeded in depicting you as a very insecure fellow. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'd say avoiding frenemies who relish seeing her fail or are happy about her trials in life due to their own insecurities would be first on her to-do list. Right after getting some resume coaching from someone who actually wants to see her succeed. I helped her FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Men misunderstand why many women are concerned about this. Yes, there are golddiggers out there. But for me personally, someone with an advanced education who does just fine for herself, it comes down to two things. First, the fact that most men feel emasculated when their woman is the provider/breadwinner. BTDT several times (dating men who made less than me, and had them have an issue with it), won't do it again. Second, I want a man who makes around what I do, so that we're equitable contributors - neither one of us relying on the other. Im not misunderstanding anything actually. I understand your point, but its quite opposite to the reasoning Ive read from some women online. They say they want the man to be "the man", and that being the bread winner doesnt make them feel feminine. I mean really? Its 2011 for christs sake...Its beyond me that some of these chicks make it sound like theyd forgo a good partner, just because they make more. Or they just want a guy who has the ability to support them both, even if that wont be the arrangement. I cant accept this. Now, regarding the reasoning you provided....I personally wouldnt feel emasculated if a chick made more money then me. Id even lightly joke about it from time to time. Id say things like "baby im totally digging for your gold...and youve got a sweet ass too lolz". Id only have a problem with her money if she tried to pamper me...I like being independent. Guys who take issue with your salary are insecure and weak in my opinion. Why should you let insecure men from your past cause you to limit your dating pool in the present and future? In terms of being equitable contributors to a relationship...both people dont have to make the same amount of money to be able to do this. I like a relationship that has equal pull on both sides, but if one of us makes more, I dont expect the person with more money to put more into the relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 High school grad here... I have dated a woman with a masters who was teacher in high school math that wasn't too smart and the list doesn't end there.. To me it isn't about education and or the ability to make money.. I've never been past high school and have had no problem making a great income for myself for almost 35 years... It is about finding someone you connect with, if a person with a masters thinks they can only connect with another person who has a masters then I would say they haven't a clue... By the way.. my wife has her bachelors.. More to the OP.. If a person thinks so much of themselves that it turns you off then let them go find someone else.. consider yourself lucky... Education is just a measuring stick for some people. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lostinlife4now Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 when reading their profile online. WHO CARES???????????????? I'm not an employer so why should I care that you have a master's degree? if I met a woman in a bar would she tell me that she just completed grad school? Dating is getting so sickening and that's why the fetish lifestyle never gets old Ladies men don't care about your master's degree OK??? I really don't care if a man has a Masters Degree or any other letters next to his name...BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OBTAINED A MASTERS DEGREE...and I would have shouted it from the rooftops!!!!!! Oh hell to the yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such an achievement!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why should you let insecure men from your past cause you to limit your dating pool in the present and future? Experience affects how we handle things in the future. If we don't learn from experience, then we're missing out. I've learned from significant experience that it's best to not date men who are significantly different from me in ANY way, whether that be education, career ambition, and earning power/actual earnings, among other things. I'm assuming/hoping that you've learned things from your relationship experience as well. Further, I have not seen a significant reduction the men in my dating pool who I would be interested in dating, so I'm not particularly worried about having something beyond "he's hot and makes me laugh" as my dating criteria. I also don't date men who overuse "lolz." Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I really don't care if a man has a Masters Degree or any other letters next to his name...BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OBTAINED A MASTERS DEGREE...and I would have shouted it from the rooftops!!!!!! Oh hell to the yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such an achievement!!!!! Not if it's a Online school Link to post Share on other sites
zengirl Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Men misunderstand why many women are concerned about this. Yes, there are golddiggers out there. But for me personally, someone with an advanced education who does just fine for herself, it comes down to two things. First, the fact that most men feel emasculated when their woman is the provider/breadwinner. BTDT several times (dating men who made less than me, and had them have an issue with it), won't do it again. Second, I want a man who makes around what I do, so that we're equitable contributors - neither one of us relying on the other. As an aside, I think the "equitable contributors" thing is a bit odd, personally, and often keeps successful women down. I get not wanting someone who's vastly different from you in education or social sphere or who would need to rely on you for finances or so forth, but sometimes it's better to have one partner who has a more reasonable/less lucrative (and soul-consuming) career than the other, so that there's balance. Just a thought. I would personally NEVER assume that what made a relationship equitable was finances. But that's how I was raised, I guess. As far as men who feel inferior if they make less or whatever . . . I say screw them. But I'm about 10 years younger than you, I think, so it could make all the difference. Men in my generation aren't as fussy about all that, IME. (This is not to say I think it's bad to want what you want---I just question the equitable argument. There's a lot more that goes into a relationship than money. A man could easily not "rely" on you without making the kind of salary you make.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
aj22one Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 My gf is in a PhD program. I didn't meet her online and she didn't tell me until several dates into our relationship. I only have a bachelor's. If I had known about it before I'd probably have been a little intimidated. Not financially (I do fairly well) but intellectually. I think people should only list having a Master's if that's what they expect their partner to have. Otherwise some people might get a little intimidated by people who appear to be throwing their education around and flaunting it. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Experience affects how we handle things in the future. If we don't learn from experience, then we're missing out. I've learned from significant experience that it's best to not date men who are significantly different from me in ANY way, whether that be education, career ambition, and earning power/actual earnings, among other things. Experiences do affect how we handle things. However we also need to use rational and logical thought. Plenty of secure men out there dont care how much money you make at all. If I simply let my dating past paint all women with one brush, then Id be forced to believe all women are either cheaters, liars, get GIGS, selfish, etc. I'm assuming/hoping that you've learned things from your relationship experience as well. Further, I have not seen a significant reduction the men in my dating pool who I would be interested in dating, so I'm not particularly worried about having something beyond "he's hot and makes me laugh" as my dating criteria. But I dont let a few bad apples spoil the bunch. I reflect on myself and ask myself why I keep picking these lame gals. Then I correct my selection process. A guy who makes a little less than you is not significantly different than you. Dont let insecure dorks ruin things for you. I also don't date men who overuse "lolz."Youre joking right? Either way I lol'd I love girls who abuse netspeak myself. I find it entertaining. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 But I'm about 10 years younger than you, I think, so it could make all the difference. Men in my generation aren't as fussy about all that, IME. No, I'm not that old. Our generations aren't that different. Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I helped her FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry. That wasn't obvious. It sounded like you were making fun of her and taking some joy in her troubles. I guess I'm confused because you seem to have something against women with higher education (?). Or is it just higher education in general you are against? Cause seriously... I have friends (male and female) with zero college and some who are bonafide super geniuses... who have written multiple books, have 200+ patents, and are sought out world-experts in such-n-such. Really...what they all have in common are that they are good people and are curious about the world around them. For some bizarre reason we still find things to talk about and activities to enjoy that don't cost alot of $$. Seems like good friend material to me. None of them are single or my age though. Oh well. Hopefully if I'm nice they will introduce me to their single friends should one come available. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 A guy who makes a little less than you is not significantly different than you. I didn't say I wouldn't date a man who made a "little less" than me. In fact, I said I wanted a man to earn "around what I do." That does not mean "equal or more." Dont let insecure dorks ruin things for you. Trust me, finding an educated man in my income tax bracket is not terribly difficult. Youre joking right? Either way I lol'd I love girls who abuse netspeak myself. I find it entertaining. Nope. I think your choice of words and the manner in which you communicate is very telling. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 My gf is in a PhD program. I didn't meet her online and she didn't tell me until several dates into our relationship. I only have a bachelor's. If I had known about it before I'd probably have been a little intimidated. Not financially (I do fairly well) but intellectually. I think people should only list having a Master's if that's what they expect their partner to have. Otherwise some people might get a little intimidated by people who appear to be throwing their education around and flaunting it. That doesn't seem too bad. I just don't need to know about your education level in the 1st three dates. We can definitely lead up to that conversation Link to post Share on other sites
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