Jane2011 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wow, so a undesirable is now someone who has a bachelor's degree?-LOL The old meaning of a undesirable was someone who was a highschool dropout or unemployed on welfare. Damm I guess I'm a undesirable-lol She didn't say you were undesirable. She said you view people with Master's degrees as undesirable, and it is a good thing for you to be able to weed them out. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Wow, so a undesirable is now someone who has a bachelor's degree?-LOL The old meaning of a undesirable was someone who was a highschool dropout or unemployed on welfare. Damm I guess I'm a undesirable-lol I think you misread my post. I meant that YOU should be happy that women mention that they have a Master's in their profile, because it helps YOU weed out what is undesirable to YOU - in this context, women who not only have a Master's, but feel like mentioning it. Link to post Share on other sites
reallyhotguy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know what you mean, man. I have a Masters degree in Mastery (from Columbia). I've yet to meet with someone with an education that has impressed me, because having already mastered of the process of mastering, I can almost definitely master whatever they studied, and probably a lot more masterfully. Man, I wish you really could get your Masters in Mastery, how cool would that be. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know what you mean, man. I have a Masters degree in Mastery (from Columbia). I've yet to meet with someone with an education that has impressed me, because having already mastered of the process of mastering, I can almost definitely master whatever they studied, and probably a lot more masterfully. Man, I wish you really could get your Masters in Mastery, how cool would that be. Yes, Master. Link to post Share on other sites
reallyhotguy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yes, Master. It puts a heartwarming touch of the Antebellum back into my everyday life. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 We highly educated types sometimes like in crowds. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It obviously means the woman puts a premium on academic achievement and it's familiar 20th Century assumption that it implies you're ambitious and on an upper middle class if not wealthy career track. That's how some folks think and it's not in itself a bad or stupid thing--it's just a deflating thing if you don't think like that but are smart and capable but have not achieved those milestones. I will never have a master's degree. I am just too unyielding to academic structures and have knowledge already from experience and life that isn't even IN graduate courses yet worth billions that I have a better handle on than most people in or out of the educational establishment. It makes it very hard for me to concentrate on the chores of passing tests and fulfilling "requirements". I just HATE that stuff--it's torture. It chafes a bit in the dating world because many women are products of families that could afford to send them to a-list schools and give them automobiles for graduating HS. My life was the exact opposite--no monies, no mentors, no nothing except go pay your own way. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Oh Please, the only thing yall will have in common is DEBT lol I have my PhD in a hard science, I out earn every man I've ever been involved with/ married to. I pay my ex-husband more in monthly alimony than a lot of average people earn a month. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It obviously means the woman puts a premium on academic achievement and it's familiar 20th Century assumption that it implies you're ambitious and on an upper middle class if not wealthy career track. That's how some folks think and it's not in itself a bad or stupid thing--it's just a deflating thing if you don't think like that but are smart and capable but have not achieved those milestones. Eh, not necessarily. I've met lots of incredibly smart and talented people who didn't go through formal higher education and I certainly don't think less of them because they don't have a Masters or even a Bachelors. A lot of people do think that way, but I don't think that saying you have that degree indicates you really do believe that everyone who doesn't is automatically stupid and inferior. At the same time, it's a fact that I do hold those two degrees, and the process of obtaining them helped define who I am, for better or worse. It's uncomfortable to have to tiptoe around it so as not to offend anyone, and I really despise being asked where I went to school because of the weird reactions I get -- "Oh, you went theeeeeeere? Wow, you must think I'm a slob." Parts of my soon-to-be-family have made lots of hostile remarks about people with degrees and advanced degrees, completely forgetting that I'm one of those folks (or perhaps not caring that I might feel weird sitting in a room of people talking trash about college-educated folks). So I really do think it can go both ways. I will never have a master's degree. I am just too unyielding to academic structures and have knowledge already from experience and life that isn't even IN graduate courses yet worth billions that I have a better handle on than most people in or out of the educational establishment. It makes it very hard for me to concentrate on the chores of passing tests and fulfilling "requirements". I just HATE that stuff--it's torture. That's certainly understandable, and it's great that you've done what you want to do in life. Better to be happy and find your own path to success than force yourself into some stupid graduate program you hate anyway. People can do extremely valuable work and make good lives for themselves without higher education, and if that's what they want to do, no one should look down on it. For me, an advanced degree was the only path to what I wanted to do. Now that I'm switching careers, it would be impossible for me to achieve my ultimate goal without another degree, since it's a requisite part of licensing. It chafes a bit in the dating world because many women are products of families that could afford to send them to a-list schools and give them automobiles for graduating HS. My life was the exact opposite--no monies, no mentors, no nothing except go pay your own way. I can empathize with that. A lot of my classmates came from that type of background, and talking to them can make you feel like you're from another planet. I didn't have parents who could afford to buy me a car, but they did foster a love of learning in me that really stuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 And a master's degree if overrated for 2 reasons 1. So many people have them now 2. A person who has a master's had a 4 page resume and no linkedin profile and didn't understand why no one called her back about a job Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 And a master's degree if overrated for 2 reasons 1. So many people have them now 2. A person who has a master's had a 4 page resume and no linkedin profile and didn't understand why no one called her back about a job So many people have them? Last I checked only about 8% of all people have them. Youll run into more people with them in metro areas, but postgraduate degrees are def not as common as undergrad degrees. And a linkedin profile is totally not needed when it comes to finding work. Linkedin is facebook for professionals, and not having one is not gonna prevent you from getting a job if you are qualified. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 And a master's degree if overrated for 2 reasons 1. So many people have them now 2. A person who has a master's had a 4 page resume and no linkedin profile and didn't understand why no one called her back about a job Obviously you are hanging out with a pretty good group in Philly a city of about 1.5 million people. Assuming you're still in Philly. You will hate Canada then, Canada population has over 22% university degree attainment, those with MS or higher. Over 7% of US population has at least a MS degree or higher. Your friend's resume and MS degree, it depends on her degree. Finding a job involves more than a resume and linked in profile. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Obviously you are hanging out with a pretty good group in Philly a city of about 1.5 million people. Assuming you're still in Philly. You will hate Canada then, Canada population has over 22% university degree attainment, those with MS or higher. Over 7% of US population has at least a MS degree or higher. Your friend's resume and MS degree, it depends on her degree. Finding a job involves more than a resume and linked in profile. I guess I was just stunned that someone can list they have a Master's, and then have a 4 page resume not realizing that is way too long. She thinks employers are not calling her because they she will demand a high salary due to her Master's. They can't be thinking that if she is applying to jobs with the listed salary-lol Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Eh, not necessarily. I've met lots of incredibly smart and talented people who didn't go through formal higher education and I certainly don't think less of them because they don't have a Masters or even a Bachelors.... I didn't disagree with anything else you said but I don't know why you said the above to me (with the "Eh") because I didn't say or imply that people who have graduate degrees think less of those who don't--although surely some do. Eh, you drew a conclusion. It obviously means the woman puts a premium on academic achievement and it's familiar 20th Century assumption that it implies you're ambitious and on an upper middle class if not wealthy career track. That's how some folks think and it's not in itself a bad or stupid thing--it's just a deflating thing if you don't think like that but are smart and capable but have not achieved those milestones.. If someone does not value that they have a masters and doesn't intend for it to imply something in a dating profile, then it is clearly implying a status which may tell the lesser educated that they need not apply. It's common sense. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I can empathize with that. A lot of my classmates came from that type of background, and talking to them can make you feel like you're from another planet. I didn't have parents who could afford to buy me a car, but they did foster a love of learning in me that really stuck.I know that feeling. Many of my classmates owned successful ventures while I had failed ventures. Also helps to have M&D (mom & dad) bank as networks and capital partners. My life was the exact opposite--no monies, no mentors, no nothing except go pay your own way. My life was going from public assistance and ESL program to being the first in my family to attain a college degree and an A-list university master's degree. I totally empathize and understand what you mean. My own dad suggested college is to expensive and go be a HVAC tech or auto mechanic; two trades I had no interests in. It is not easy and college is not for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Soxfaninfl Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have my PhD in a hard science, I out earn every man I've ever been involved with/ married to. I pay my ex-husband more in monthly alimony than a lot of average people earn a month. Wow that has to suck. My ex-wife tried to get alimony from me, but she worked and only made 10K a year less than me. Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I guess I was just stunned that someone can list they have a Master's, and then have a 4 page resume not realizing that is way too long. She thinks employers are not calling her because they she will demand a high salary due to her Master's. They can't be thinking that if she is applying to jobs with the listed salary-lol Listed salary and employers think she will desire a high salary. Some employers are just stupid. I feel for your friend not getting calls. There are so many things going on in the job market and part of it is out of your friend's control. The 4 page resume and no linkedin profile sure does not help. It is possible that there are better candidates than her. Not all master's degree are the same. To find jobs, it is really who you know in the job market. I got my jobs by talking to people and going to industry events. Edited February 26, 2012 by jerbear Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 To OP, if the woman had a Master's degree or higher, but listed on her profile that she only had a Bachelor's... how would you feel about that? Link to post Share on other sites
Author PhillyDude Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 To OP, if the woman had a Master's degree or higher, but listed on her profile that she only had a Bachelor's... how would you feel about that? I think education should be removed completely from a dating profile Link to post Share on other sites
boaaaar Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 @ OP : "Notice a lot of women want to mention that they have their MASTERS DEGREE ... WHO CARES????????????????" You can also notice alot of men want to mention that they have a beefcake body. I think both of these build themselves as a reflection of what they desire. But hey, it sure isn't bad at all, at least it makes them do something positive Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 OP, you might want to take your dating efforts to West Virginia. I believe that state has the lowest percentage of people with advanced degrees in the Union. Even a Bachelor's Degree is an anomaly there. Link to post Share on other sites
RedRobin Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think education should be removed completely from a dating profile Ok, at what point would you consider it relevant information? Do you feel you are at some kind of disadvantage? How would you feel about meeting a woman who you later found out had a higher degree than you? Would you ditch her? On OkC there is a button that says 'graduated from space camp'... or "Other". Is that an option for you? Then you could screen for women who legitimately don't care what your educational level is. How about that? Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 On OkC there is a button that says 'graduated from space camp'... or "Other". Is that an option for you? Then you could screen for women who legitimately don't care what your educational level is. How about that? I know this is off-topic but Space Camp!?! I am so changing my setting to 'Graduated from space camp!' 1 Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 To me smart women are ubersexy. Oh yeah! Link to post Share on other sites
goldengirl11 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I thought a lot of men say that in their first line of introduction on dating sites! Link to post Share on other sites
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