NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 So I have been paying attention? is it just me? or is there inconsistencies? We all seem to be going around in a circle, just as much hurts is?? I don't think there's any inconsistencies, he's been mentioning AA throughout the thread when asked about it. It's just the thread is so long I don't remember where else it was mentioned. If it was a book it would be as voluminous as the Encyclopedia Brittanica. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 We don't "assume" that because someone went last week or even yesterday - that it means they are still growing and participating. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 We don't "assume" that because someone went last week or even yesterday - that it means they are still growing and participating. That's true but I was just pointing out that the last time he was asked he said he was going in reply to Coops question. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Even IF he's going - I don't see evidence of what we would normally see IF he was working a solid program - yet. He's got work to DO! Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Who doesn`t assume? you or i ? Well - me I suppose... When he shows EVIDENCE then I will BELIEVE he is participating in his recovery. It will show as evidence in his actions and thoughts...when he's doing it well. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 NXS with respect ...show me where hurts has actually said he`s going to AA ?? Like i said , i may of missed a page , or have some sort of mental block of where he `actually` said that he is? ( and now i`m `prolly` gonna get the wraith of MM4 for being `condescending` !! ( @ MM4 )) ( in jest again ok? ) Huh?? I just told you the last post and you said you read it. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Well - me I suppose... When he shows EVIDENCE then I will BELIEVE he is participating in his recovery. It will show as evidence in his actions and thoughts...when he's doing it well. Ok, you're not going to like this but I think AA is a cult and the "programme" does not get people well, just keeps them stuck in their past. Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 He hasn't really FIRMLY said he goes regularly. Or that's what I figure - still elusive about it and inconsistent... Steps 6&7 address these character defects... Hmmm Link to post Share on other sites
2sunny Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ok, you're not going to like this but I think AA is a cult and the "programme" does not get people well, just keeps them stuck in their past. Not true. They don't "tell people what/how to believe" - so itcantbea cult. People find their own way - a way that works for them. I have evidence it DOES work. Me!!! And the almost 50 people I've sponsored in the past 4years. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 i know ...you said it. HE replied. Before that ...there was no mention of it. He first mentioned it in post 10 Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Not true. They don't "tell people what/how to believe" - so itcantbea cult. People find their own way - a way that works for them. I have evidence it DOES work. Me!!! And the almost 50 people I've sponsored in the past 4years. Sorry but it has all the characteristics of a cult. Just because they don't tell people what to do doesn't mean it's not a cult, most cults don't work that way anyway. They use social control instead, so people conform by their own "choice" i.e. social approval. Furthermore the origins of AA are very vague. Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 Hey guys Im back! I started goig to AA eetings about 2 weeks ago. I have been going on and off. There is a group that meets twice a week by me ad I go to that group usually after the gym. Anyway, I spoke to the wife yesterday. I called her at work. I just said, Would you like to go bowlig Sunday? me you and the kids and then dinner after. Without any hesitation she said yes. I think this is a good thing considerig our argument on Wed.... I am thinking afterwards maybe sittig down with her and asking her where her head is at...Or do you guys still think its too soon? Should I just take her and the kids out and have fun? Let me know. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 so anyway.. NSX and sunny....those inconsistencies i spoke about earlier??!! Lol, HSB can you clear this up please, you've mentioned going to AA before on this thread yes/no? If yes then how come you're just saying two weeks ago now? Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 NXS...yup.. as in post 10. so (nxs)... again ...about those inconsistencies???? Whoa, hang on sec.... you said he never mentioned going to AA before, I said he did and gave you two posts where he mentioned it, right? You then started talking about inconsistencies even though you didn't even know he'd already mentioned AA, right? So where's your consistency? Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) I was going to the AA meetings here and there before but not on a regular I started going like I said about 2 weeks ago more consistantly......coops com'on man! Cut me some slack! I a just asking what you guys thoughts are on the subject. Its been 2 months...I have been told on this thread bu sunny and trippi to be patient! I just dont wat to push the issue if you guys think its too soon. Thats all... You guys have been threw this s**t before. This is my first time so I am asking people who know better than me..... Edited April 21, 2012 by hurts_so_bad Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Its been 2 months...I have been told on this thread bu sunny and trippi to be patient! I just dont wat to push the issue if you guys think its too soon. Thats all... You guys have been threw this s**t before. This is my first time so I am asking people who know better than me..... What kind of reaction have you been getting from her lately? I don't mean what she's said but her body language and general tone. Btw I think it's good that you asked her and decided what to do for the day instead of waiting for her to make arrangements. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Cleared up NXS ??? Can you see what i`m on about? Yeah, clear as mud. Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 lol coop! You always answer my questions with questions! Do you think talking about what she wants or where she is at in her head is a good idea at this point? Or should I go and just enjoy the day with them? Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 lol coop! You always answer my questions with questions! Do you think talking about what she wants or where she is at in her head is a good idea at this point? Or should I go and just enjoy the day with them? How has she been reacting around you lately? Body language and general behavour? Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 How has she been reacting around you lately? Body language and general behavour? She has been very nice...When she had the bday party for me we spoke alot. She hung around me alot, we laughed etc....When I asked her yesterday about Sunday she said yes right away without a pause. Also when I was there Sunday she was dressed really nice. If that meas anything! Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 She has been very nice...When she had the bday party for me we spoke alot. She hung around me alot, we laughed etc....When I asked her yesterday about Sunday she said yes right away without a pause. Also when I was there Sunday she was dressed really nice. If that meas anything! Any kind of sexual energy going on? (from her) Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 Not just me. You seem to avoid the questions that really matter and just ask the same old ones over and over again:sick: You just asked the same question again... ( this is deja vu for me?...anyone else??)) Hurts...how old are you??? Yes we have had the same convo before but that was at a different time. That was then this is now......Cooooooooop Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 I dont know..havent noticed really....No touchy feely stuff if thats what u mean. Link to post Share on other sites
Author hurts_so_bad Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 what? So you changed now eh?.....How come? Lol..again with the questions.Your killing me coop! lol...All I am sayig is that was then this is now. Differet time frame. What may not have een appropriate then ay be now. Link to post Share on other sites
NXS Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I dont know..havent noticed really....No touchy feely stuff if thats what u mean. Ok, I'm trying to guage if there's anything different in her reaction to you now than a few weeks/months ago, does that make sense? Have you noticed anything different? Link to post Share on other sites
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