soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thus the question is profit, not prevention of fiscal bankruptcy or even sharing of expenses. Thank you for clearing that up. I suppose it is possibly even a good principle to have, if you're not interested in anything past casual sex. I certainly would charge rent to a FWB who wanted to live in my house. I have NEVER lived in a place where I wasn't required to write a monthly rent or mortgage check. Unless I gave birth to you, I'm not interested in providing free housing to anyone. If a man balks at the idea of making a set monthly modest payment which is well below rental costs in this area, he is totally free to continue on living in his own place, negotiating with his landlord or his bank to allow him to stay there for free. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 It will be helpful to you if you take some comprehension and philosophy courses. The word "bitter" is not the only word in the dictionary. I bet you have used the word "bitter" several times more frequently than I have here on LoveShack. Listen, pipsqueak. Really. Quit while you're ahead. You have nothing here. Link to post Share on other sites
jwi71 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Oh … Okay. Thank you for that, sir. So, in order to establish true equality in my marriage, I guess first we'll need to ascertain the quality of the blowjobs I administer. Once that's figured out, then we can know whether a blowjob undertaken by myself should count as a debit or a credit, right? If it turns out that I am an atrocious blowjob giver, then continuing to make my feeble efforts in that department would be undermining to the fiscal foundation of my marriage??? Hm. A lot to think about. It's really hard being a coke sniffing feminist with my husband alternately sitting on his ass and licking my toes. Oh!! I can help. First we must establish that quality of blow Jon in order to accurately price it. Therefore, and in the best interests of not overpaying, your H needs to go out and get lots of blowjobs from lots of women. It's not cheating. It's economic research. Then, once he has a basis of comparison, can he adequately assign a quality rating to it and a price can then be negotiated. Wouldn't want him to overpay ya know. No need to thank me, it's a gift. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thus the question is profit, not prevention of fiscal bankruptcy or even sharing of expenses. Thank you for clearing that up. I suppose it is possibly even a good principle to have, if you're not interested in anything past casual sex. I certainly would charge rent to a FWB who wanted to live in my house. And a man who lives here for free is doing what exactly? For starters, he's occupying space I can easily rent for more than I'd be charging him. He is PROFITING from my investments, he gets to stick all the cash he normally has to fork over for rent into his own pocket. He gets to pocket all the cash he'd normally have to pay in rent, I lose rental income from a housemate & still retain all the normal obligations of a landlord, gotta make sure house is kept up to code to keep "Joe Blow" comfy after all. Sorry but an arrangement that results in profits for a romantic partner & costs & liabilities for me isn't one I'm interested in making. Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I bet you have used the word "bitter" several times more frequently than I have here on LoveShack. Considering that in all your replies to others you use the word "bitter," it is impossible I use that word more than you. Listen, pipsqueak. Really. Quit while you're ahead. You have nothing here. Heed your own advice hacker jack. You don't wanna flame with me. Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 And a man who lives here for free is doing what exactly? For starters, he's occupying space I can easily rent for more than I'd be charging him. He is PROFITING from my investments, he gets to stick all the cash he normally has to fork over for rent into his own pocket. He gets to pocket all the cash he'd normally have to pay in rent, I lose rental income from a housemate & still retain all the normal obligations of a landlord, gotta make sure house is kept up to code to keep "Joe Blow" comfy after all. Sorry but an arrangement that results in profits for a romantic partner & costs & liabilities for me isn't one I'm interested in making. No woman in their sane mind wants a funky ass lazy man. And vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The interesting thing is that this poster calls the person who is being provided for, a freeloader who enjoys life at the expense of the person paying the bills. But evidently, from his latest post, the person who PROVIDES is a sexist who feels their partner is expendable and provides for them because if anything went wrong they'd be in the clear and their partner would 'suffer'. Now we just need some derogatory terms to label couples who split all expenses with, and we'll be set. I bet we wouldn't be far off base to guess that this poster really has no experience with relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Oh!! I can help. First we must establish that quality of blow Jon in order to accurately price it. Therefore, and in the best interests of not overpaying, your H needs to go out and get lots of blowjobs from lots of women. It's not cheating. It's economic research. Then, once he has a basis of comparison, can he adequately assign a quality rating to it and a price can then be negotiated. Wouldn't want him to overpay ya know. No need to thank me, it's a gift. Oh. Do I really need to do this? It kind of makes me sad. Sad feminist here. But if that's what's required for a fair and equal partnership, how can I argue with you? Link to post Share on other sites
nofool4u Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 All the more reasons to NOT get married & to simply pump and dump It sure is a lot better than being a slave for life. And it someone doesn't want to get married because of money, that is fine. I have not a problem with that since someone concerned only about money shouldn't be married, no matter which side of the fence you sit on. Marrying someone for their money, or seeking to keep it from someone they married. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I bet we wouldn't be far off base to guess that this poster really has no experience with relationships. I bet we wouldn't be far off base to guess that this poster is not even married. Instead it is a fantasy made up by her deluded mind. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Oh no. Only a woman could possibly say this. As a man, a bad blowjob is BAD. Like teeth bad. Oh no dear, she should pay him! Actually I'd rather ( and have) paid a male escort for sexual services, it's a far, far better an experience than providing the "gift" of free housing to a 'loving husband" ever was , a much better value Link to post Share on other sites
nofool4u Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Quotes, please. I don't believe he's ever said that. You won't get quotes from BJ. He says things that aren't true, then refuses to back his words with facts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 And a man who lives here for free is doing what exactly? For starters, he's occupying space I can easily rent for more than I'd be charging him. He is PROFITING from my investments, he gets to stick all the cash he normally has to fork over for rent into his own pocket. He gets to pocket all the cash he'd normally have to pay in rent, I lose rental income from a housemate & still retain all the normal obligations of a landlord, gotta make sure house is kept up to code to keep "Joe Blow" comfy after all. Sorry but an arrangement that results in profits for a romantic partner & costs & liabilities for me isn't one I'm interested in making. You are automatically assuming the "cash in his pocket" will stay there rather than be used in part for home improvements, a new BBQ for you two to share, a new flat screen you can cuddle in front of together. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You are automatically assuming the "cash in his pocket" will stay there rather than be used in part for home improvements, a new BBQ for you two to share, a new flat screen you can cuddle in front of together. I'd rather rent to a housemate & invest the money myself, I'm not interested in "cuddling" in front of a TV with anyone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'd rather rent to a housemate & invest the money myself, I'm not interested in "cuddling" in front of a TV with anyone. That is fine for you, but when you extend this viewpoint to give similar advice to people who are ACTUALLY interested in having LTRs, you will tend to find yourself disagreed with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
donnamaybe Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'd rather rent to a housemate & invest the money myself, I'm not interested in "cuddling" in front of a TV with anyone. I'm sorry he did such a mind **** on you. I LOVE cuddling in front of the TV with my sweety. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That is fine for you, but when you extend this viewpoint to give similar advice to people who are ACTUALLY interested in having LTRs, you will tend to find yourself disagreed with. You've already made your disagreement with my POV quite clear & frankly, I don't really care what you think, you don't pay my bills. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You know, I wonder if instead of trying to convince ss1 that she is wrong, maybe we should be wishing that someday she's in a better place and finds a love worth changing her mind. Sorry but IMHO there isn't a man living worth free housing for life. I'm not interested in "sharing" my assets period. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You know, I wonder if instead of trying to convince ss1 that she is wrong, maybe we should be wishing that someday she's in a better place and finds a love worth changing her mind. The problem is that IMO, any person capable of a loving relationship would find her attitude repulsive. It is a chicken and egg thing, I guess. I mean, a person who has been driven bitter by years of loneliness, for example, might be okay again if they meet a lovely man/woman who changes their mind. But would a lovely man/woman be interested in a relationship in which they have to do so much work to make the other person a functional and loving partner again? We hear about it in Disney movies, but we advise each other, even, to stay away from people whom we feel need 'fixing', as if our love were some kind of miracle cure. Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That is fine for you, but when you extend this viewpoint to give similar advice to people who are ACTUALLY interested in having LTRs, you will tend to find yourself disagreed with. So what. Doesn't mean everyone will disagree with her. And nowhere in the beginning of this thread did she say everyone must adhere to her view of marriage, unlike some folks. The "pay bills voluntarily, be a lazy ass, and take inheritance money that doesn't belong to you" view is hardly something to agree with. Link to post Share on other sites
soserious1 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The problem is that IMO, any person capable of a loving relationship would find her attitude repulsive. It is a chicken and egg thing, I guess. I mean, a person who has been driven bitter by years of loneliness, for example, might be okay again if they meet a lovely man/woman who changes their mind. But would a lovely man/woman be interested in a relationship in which they have to do so much work to make the other person a functional and loving partner again? We hear about it in Disney movies, but we advise each other, even, to stay away from people whom we feel need 'fixing', as if our love were some kind of miracle cure. Actually, given the description of all the sharing you & others here feel I should be making in order to be in a "loving relationship" I'm rather glad such folks find my attitude to be "repulsive" it makes avoiding such people a lot easier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The problem is that IMO, any person capable of a loving relationship would find her attitude repulsive. It is a chicken and egg thing, I guess. I mean, a person who has been driven bitter by years of loneliness, for example, might be okay again if they meet a lovely man/woman who changes their mind. But would a lovely man/woman be interested in a relationship in which they have to do so much work to make the other person a functional and loving partner again? We hear about it in Disney movies, but we advise each other, even, to stay away from people whom we feel need 'fixing', as if our love were some kind of miracle cure. Your opinion exactly, so it's not a fact, no matter how hard you try to make it be. Anyone who's capable of a loving relationship doesn't sit on their ass all day with no bills to pay, whining because their partner isn't giving them all their hard earned money and not jumping off the cliff when they say jump. Now that's repulsive. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Your opinion exactly, so it's not a fact, no matter how hard you try to make it be. Anyone who's capable of a loving relationship doesn't sit on their ass all day with no bills to pay, whining because their partner isn't giving them all their hard earned money and not jumping off the cliff when they say jump. Now that's repulsive. Do you guys have some sort of regular expression filter that automatically replaces 'rent' with 'bills'? Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Actually, given the description of all the sharing you & others here feel I should be making in order to be in a "loving relationship" I'm rather glad such folks find my attitude to be "repulsive" it makes avoiding such people a lot easier. Don't worry there's not a lot of people in the real world with their self-entitled state of mind. Most of them unfortunately, exist on the internet where they can fantasize their warped ideologies all day while their partner is out working their asses off, and that's if they even have a partner to speak of. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 A little nitpicky don't you think? Perhaps I should have said she finds herself in a better place and then finds a love worth changing her mind. Sorry, didn't realize that people couldn't just go on the jist of my post. Let me be a little more clear. It's a waste of time trying to convince her that she's wrong. She's made it plenty clear for 15 pages that she no one here is going to change her mind. So why not just wish her the best and hope she gets some counseling? Fair enough, and a very good point. Link to post Share on other sites
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