Don't you hate when SHORT women require TALL men???

[ThaWholigan]

I'm reading over this thread and I saw this post.

 

And it made me

 

How would, letting go of my insecurity, make me automatically more attractive?

 

 

It will make you more confident. Duh

 

The way I see it, it basically breaks down like this.

 

Women need to be physically attracted to a guy before she will date him.

 

A man's height is part of his attractiveness. Tall men get a plus. Short men get a neutral and in the worst scenario, they are seen as unattractive because of their height. You are the perfect example of somebody who would be turned off of me just because of my height, which is something that I have no control over whatsoever.

 

Getting back, most women either see my height as neutral or a bad thing, and we all know that women are not attracted to neutral. There has to be something else about the guy that physically excites her. Other than height, it usually comes down to a good looking face and or a very fit body. Of which I have neither. I'm definitely not ugly nor am I fat or skinny but I'm just average which isn't enough to get a woman hot for me.

 

When a woman isn't physically attracted to a guy, he still might have a chance if he's rich, has game, something he excels at (sports, music, acting) he's very funny, or has a very high level of confidence for any other reason. None of those apply to me.

 

So not being physically attractive or having any of the things I just mentions, perfectly explains why women are excluding me from being anything more than their friend.

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Dear Lord

 

Somedude. You know that all of those things are completely within your range. They are within the range of so many men who live in situations lie ours. Please I hope you understand this. The sooner you stop seeing yourself as inferior, the better you are going to be at everything you want to do

 

You should be doing what I'm doing, which is at least trying to excel at EVERYTHING I do

[xxoo]

Getting back, most women either see my height as neutral or a bad thing, and we all know that women are not attracted to neutral. There has to be something else about the guy that physically excites her. Other than height, it usually comes down to a good looking face and or a very fit body. Of which I have neither. I'm definitely not ugly nor am I fat or skinny but I'm just average which isn't enough to get a woman hot for me.

 

When a woman isn't physically attracted to a guy, he still might have a chance if he's rich, has game, something he excels at (sports, music, acting) he's very funny, or has a very high level of confidence for any other reason. None of those apply to me.

 

sd, do you really believe that you have nothing going for you that would make you attractive to women?

 

You think you'd have luck with women if you were taller, but equally as bland in every other way?

[EmpoweredWoman]

I love the advice Udolipixie gives to "short guys" like Somedude, the same woman has repeated numerous times that she's 5'6 and would not ever date a guy whose under 5'10, not even a great guy whose 5'9 (rofl, **** the "preference argument", that is irrational insanity only a woman could ever fathom). If you want to take any advice from a bitch who lives with that kind of extreme and ruthless view of love and relationships, be my guest, but me, I would just block her if I were you somedude .

 

It reminds me a lot of a past poster whose no longer around "OnyxSnowfall". She would message me asking why I was so bitter about women and that all her boyfriends looked kind of different so she wasn't shallow, she only loved a man for what was inside. She claimed she would date me if we lived closer together, after getting to know her through PM's. Then I go into some thread, I forgot which one, but I saw her say she could never date a man under 5'9, she wouldn't be able to even budge 1 inch. So in real life, she wouldn't date me either.

 

Women are a band of hypocrites. Taking advice from someone so cold-hearted and vicious who wouldn't date you no matter what you do or how amazing and well rounded you are for something really petty like 1 inch of height, has no right except the right to die alone only with their cats as company.

[Badsingularity]

I'm reading over this thread and I saw this post.

 

And it made me

 

How would, letting go of my insecurity, make me automatically more attractive?

 

Wow........

 

If you ever read anything I posted you would already know the answer.( and a thousand other people have told you)

 

Insecurity is the opposite of confidence. Confidence is attractive. It's realy very simple.

 

If you don't believe me. Ask any of the Ladies on LS if I'm right.

 

I always find it mind boggling that you laugh at or dismiss advice from men who have been in your shoes, but have figured out over time how to attract and be succesful with women.

 

We are the exact people you should be taking advice from and applying it so that you could be succusful yourself. Yet you don't, and you wonder why you are still in your situation.

[Jono85]

The way I see it, it basically breaks down like this.

 

Women need to be physically attracted to a guy before she will date him.

 

A man's height is part of his attractiveness. Tall men get a plus. Short men get a neutral and in the worst scenario, they are seen as unattractive because of their height. You are the perfect example of somebody who would be turned off of me just because of my height, which is something that I have no control over whatsoever.

 

Getting back, most women either see my height as neutral or a bad thing, and we all know that women are not attracted to neutral. There has to be something else about the guy that physically excites her. Other than height, it usually comes down to a good looking face and or a very fit body. Of which I have neither. I'm definitely not ugly nor am I fat or skinny but I'm just average which isn't enough to get a woman hot for me.

 

When a woman isn't physically attracted to a guy, he still might have a chance if he's rich, has game, something he excels at (sports, music, acting) he's very funny, or has a very high level of confidence for any other reason. None of those apply to me.

 

So not being physically attractive or having any of the things I just mentions, perfectly explains why women are excluding me from being anything more than their friend.

 

dude stop living it pity for yourself and make something of what you have. stop being lazy and get in shape/fit, learn how to play the guitar, or a sport, accumulate wealth, etc etc.

 

that post was pathetic.

 

 

just b/c we're short, and already playing from behind, doesn't mean you can't control the things that ARE within our control. it's no reason to feel helpless or give up..

[Jane2011]

I suggest the guitar. The two 5'6" guys I liked most played the guitar.

 

One was really good at it, the other just sort of piddled around with it.

 

So you see, you don't even have to be good, just piddle around with a guitar. Women dig that.

[ThaWholigan]

I suggest the guitar. The two 5'6" guys I liked most played the guitar.

 

One was really good at it, the other just sort of piddled around with it.

 

So you see, you don't even have to be good, just piddle around with a guitar. Women dig that.

Agree. I'm not a guitarist (yet ), but most guitarists tend to attract women simply because the guitar is such an accessible instrument. As a pianist, not so much

[verhrzn]

I suggest the guitar. The two 5'6" guys I liked most played the guitar.

 

One was really good at it, the other just sort of piddled around with it.

 

So you see, you don't even have to be good, just piddle around with a guitar. Women dig that.

 

There IS something about the guitar that seems to be magical. A guy playing one instantly becomes more attractive. Why is that?

 

I've also found that short guys do really well if they have a cocky, almost comical personality. Think mischief maker.

[EmpoweredWoman]

There IS something about the guitar that seems to be magical. A guy playing one instantly becomes more attractive. Why is that?

 

I've also found that short guys do really well if they have a cocky, almost comical personality. Think mischief maker.

 

 

Pure nonesense. I have the latter personality, probably a textbook case, but girls just think my mischief is SCARY. They'd rather have a tall guy that sits in front of the boobtube all night.

[jobaba]

dude stop living it pity for yourself and make something of what you have. stop being lazy and get in shape/fit, learn how to play the guitar, or a sport, accumulate wealth, etc etc.

 

that post was pathetic.

 

 

just b/c we're short, and already playing from behind, doesn't mean you can't control the things that ARE within our control. it's no reason to feel helpless or give up..

 

I suggest the guitar. The two 5'6" guys I liked most played the guitar.

 

One was really good at it, the other just sort of piddled around with it.

 

So you see, you don't even have to be good, just piddle around with a guitar. Women dig that.

 

Agree. I'm not a guitarist (yet ), but most guitarists tend to attract women simply because the guitar is such an accessible instrument. As a pianist, not so much

 

There IS something about the guitar that seems to be magical. A guy playing one instantly becomes more attractive. Why is that?

 

I've also found that short guys do really well if they have a cocky, almost comical personality. Think mischief maker.

 

Uh oh. Here we go.

 

Sorry, but I STRONGLY disagree.

 

I'm really good at guitar. As in entry level professional good. I've been playing for over 16 years.

 

MANY women have seen me play the guitar and I have been rejected by quite a few of them. The women I have hooked up mostly have done so before ever seeing me play. One was in a band with me. But by no means did my guitar playing romantically sway her.

 

If Somedude were to pick up the guitar tmrw, it would take him at least 10 years to get as good as me putting in many hours a day at points.

 

To do that just to get women. Not worth it.

 

If he wants to do it because he loves music, then do it.

 

I have learned that picking up skills and such for the sole purpose of impressing women not only does not work, you are compromising your true self. Whether it be playing the guitar, working out, etc.

 

Do it for yourself.

[ThaWholigan]

Uh oh. Here we go.

 

Sorry, but I STRONGLY disagree.

 

I'm really good at guitar. As in entry level professional good. I've been playing for over 16 years.

 

MANY women have seen me play the guitar and I have been rejected by quite a few of them. The women I have hooked up mostly have done so before ever seeing me play. One was in a band with me. But by no means did my guitar playing romantically sway her.

 

If Somedude were to pick up the guitar tmrw, it would take him at least 10 years to get as good as me putting in many hours a day at points.

 

To do that just to get women. Not worth it.

 

If he wants to do it because he loves music, then do it.

 

I have learned that picking up skills and such for the sole purpose of impressing women not only does not work, you are compromising your true self. Whether it be playing the guitar, working out, etc.

 

Do it for yourself.

smh don't discourage the man we're trying to make a breakthrough here

[jobaba]

smh don't discourage the man we're trying to make a breakthrough here

 

Haha, sorry.

 

I exaggerated a bit. There are some things you can pick up to try and impress women.

 

For instance, a friend of mine (non-Asian) liked Asian girls. So he'd learn tidbits of the different languages like, "I love you." They ate it up. Of course, he was good looking too.

 

But to be any good at guitar at all takes so many hours. To be doing it JUST to get women ... you'll give up.

 

I'd also like to add that kind of stuff like being able to play the guitar and sing comes in handy ONCE you've already gotten girls attracted to you. You can serenade them and stuff. But it doesn't really create attraction. Believe me, I've tried.

Edited March 26, 2012 by jobaba

[ThaWholigan]

Haha, sorry.

 

I exaggerated a bit. There are some things you can pick up to try and impress women.

 

For instance, a friend of mine (non-Asian) liked Asian girls. So he'd learn tidbits of the different languages like, "I love you." They ate it up. Of course, he was good looking too.

 

But to be any good at guitar at all takes so many hours. To be doing it JUST to get women ... you'll give up.

 

I'd also like to add that kind of stuff like being able to play the guitar and sing comes in handy ONCE you've already gotten girls attracted to you. You can serenade them and stuff. But it doesn't really create attraction. Believe me, I've tried.

I agree. I'm learning guitar coz I actually want to be good at it. But Somedude needs something that he can channel himself into. It will actually make him feel happier.

[Jane2011]

smh don't discourage the man we're trying to make a breakthrough here

 

lol

 

Yeah...we're all working 'round the clock...trying to get things right in this young man's head.

 

Work with us!

[Jane2011]

Okay, here's what happened with me and a guitar individual. He was 5'6" and I asked him to give me guitar lessons. He said okay. The first lesson, he played "Rock You Like a Hurricane" by the Scorpions. I knew right off the bat that I'd have sex with him at some point, and I did.

 

Learn just a song or two and get a woman in your bed.

[jobaba]

Okay, here's what happened with me and a guitar individual. He was 5'6" and I asked him to give me guitar lessons. He said okay. The first lesson, he played "Rock You Like a Hurricane" by the Scorpions. I knew right off the bat that I'd have sex with him at some point, and I did.

 

Learn just a song or two and get a woman in your bed.

 

I do believe you.

 

Was he attractive to you before that though? Or did the guitar playing just trigger lust?

 

Obviously I know the tale of guitar playing 'getting em wet."

 

And to be honest, I'm surprised it's never gotten me ANY tail. I am good.

 

I like Uli Jon Roth too.

[Jane2011]

p.s. I am kidding, of course. I agree about playing music because you love it.

[Jane2011]

I do believe you.

 

Was he attractive to you before that though? Or did the guitar playing just trigger lust?

 

Obviously I know the tale of guitar playing 'getting em wet."

 

And to be honest, I'm surprised it's never gotten me ANY tail. I am good.

 

I like Uli Jon Roth too.

 

He was attractive anyway, yes. He also had a lot of confidence and charisma (he could even be a little cocky). But the guitar-playing boosted my attraction a lot. I did lust after him because he had a very "cool" way about playing the guitar. I took lessons with him, but half the time I would flip through his song book and tell him to just play stuff for me.

 

I'm surprised you haven't gotten women from guitar playing. I would think you would. It is an attractive thing.

[kaylan]

You can always get that surgery where they break and reset your legs =/

[zengirl]

That's because that 99% of the time that I try to get a date, I'm turned down.

 

All that's left for me to do is complain and try to find out why.

 

You don't ask out that many girls! You act like your facing this continual chain of rejection, but you ask out so few women it's not like you're getting turned down even the equivalent of once per week. I bet, in total #s, while I have a better %s than you in asking out guys for dates (and men asked me out unprompted, yes) that I have been turned down more times -- numerically, not % -- than you have.

 

There is A LOT left for you to do -- everything from self-improvement inside and out to just simply ASKING MORE GIRLS OUT -- that would help you get dates. I suspect three things (a) You're very picky to the point where you don't ask enough women out and don't ask women who are more likely to go out with you out, (b) You're still fixating on D and all of this is really not, "why won't women date me!" but why won't that specific girl or a specific subset of girls you've fixated on date you, and © You're too afraid of failure to really try. All of which are limiting you FAR more than your height.

[oldguy]

You don't ask out that many girls! You act like your facing this continual chain of rejection, but you ask out so few women it's not like you're getting turned down even the equivalent of once per week. I bet, in total #s, while I have a better %s than you in asking out guys for dates (and men asked me out unprompted, yes) that I have been turned down more times -- numerically, not % -- than you have.

 

There is A LOT left for you to do -- everything from self-improvement inside and out to just simply ASKING MORE GIRLS OUT -- that would help you get dates. I suspect three things (a) You're very picky to the point where you don't ask enough women out and don't ask women who are more likely to go out with you out, (b) You're still fixating on D and all of this is really not, "why won't women date me!" but why won't that specific girl or a specific subset of girls you've fixated on date you, and © You're too afraid of failure to really try. All of which are limiting you FAR more than your height.

 

When I was in college I knew a guy who would, to put it politely, proposition girls, (mostly at clubs), for sex all the time. When he wasn't getting his face slapped he was getting his jewels kneed & he would get the crap beat out of him regularly either by a bf or to our delight, the young lady. But despite this he "got lucky" more than the rest of us combined I think. I learned something from this; no matter how bad your technique or approach, shear numbers will prevail & if you don't want to get your nuts kicked develop your technique.

[ascendotum]

There is A LOT left for you to do -- everything from self-improvement inside and out to just simply ASKING MORE GIRLS OUT -- that would help you get dates. I suspect three things (a) You're very picky to the point where you don't ask enough women out and don't ask women who are more likely to go out with you out, (b) You're still fixating on D and all of this is really not, "why won't women date me!" but why won't that specific girl or a specific subset of girls you've fixated on date you, and © You're too afraid of failure to really try. All of which are limiting you FAR more than your height.

 

Hmmm, I wonder what Dr. Phil would say. Maybe SD should write in and some women will call up during the show. Maybe better than getting slapped or kneed to the balls many times.

[Els]

Re: The guitar. I did find it sexy that the bf played it, though that was by far not the primary component of my interest

[jerbear]

When I was in college I knew a guy who would, to put it politely, proposition girls, (mostly at clubs), for sex all the time. When he wasn't getting his face slapped he was getting his jewels kneed & he would get the crap beat out of him regularly either by a bf or to our delight, the young lady. But despite this he "got lucky" more than the rest of us combined I think. I learned something from this; no matter how bad your technique or approach, shear numbers will prevail & if you don't want to get your nuts kicked develop your technique.

I knew a guy like that in college.

 

He now works in auto sales because he picked on the wrong girl, needless to say the girl's father took care of him by making sure he couldn't get a real job in the region.

 

Hmmm, I wonder what Dr. Phil would say. Maybe SD should write in and some women will call up during the show.

Nah, Jerry Springer! The problem with Jerry Springer is all of LS will show up!

[oldguy]

I knew a guy like that in college.

 

He now works in auto sales because he picked on the wrong girl, needless to say the girl's father took care of him by making sure he couldn't get a real job in the region.

It was more likely he realized the guy's sales abilities. The guy I knew also went into sales & was one of the top producers at his firm.