Don't you hate when SHORT women require TALL men???

[jerbear]

That's only something a heightest would think. You worshiping height in men and women is a pretty common theme in this thread.

 

To the contrary many men have said they prefer a shorter girl.

 

As for myself, I just want somebody around my height so things don't get awkward.

 

Short men are getting mad, because the few women who would be willing to date us, would prefer to date the taller guys.

 

Nobody actually wants to date a short guy. Nobody dreams of their midget prince saving them.

 

You know something about short men, instead of getting mad, own your height. It sucks to know that you got dealt a bad hand from nature. So what? I had that at one point, and I'm taller than my parents, who are taller than their parents. I expect my kids to be taller than me. I'm between 6'0 and 5'0 feet tall.

 

Even the women who prefer to date taller guys, well even their standards change when you meet them! Online dating, well the 6'3" tall blonde wouldn't give me the time of day! Guess what? We met a charity function and SHE ASKED me out. We, more like I, had fun. If she didn't ask, I would have asked her in person. So instead of hiding behind dating sites for dates, get out there in real life.

 

Regarding similar heights, don't worry unless your favorite position is 69; even that position the height advantage is gone. It is doing it standing up that is hard. I had one ex who was slightly shorter than me, and she commented on our kissing. I picked her up and put her on the stairs so she is taller than me. We had fun.

 

Instead of being a tall woman hater, go out and meet them in real life; if you can stand in front of them, keep pace, whisk them off their feet, dance, show intelligence, they might go on a date with you. From there your personality and how creative you are will keep them.

 

What if the midget prince was Lord Farquaad?

[johan]

Those optimistic, and correct, statements are falling on deaf ears, unfortunately, Jer. Somedude's best solution is to opt out altogether.

[udolipixie]

The only reason I'm 'obsessed' with height, is that I see it as the primary reason for why I can't get a GF.

 

There is no denying that a man's height is a big contributor to how physically attractive he is.

Most likely you can get a GF pretty easily I think what you mean is a GF that fits your standards.

 

I doubt height is the primary reason for why you can't get a GF as there's loads of guys your height and below with a GF and past GFs.

 

There's probably other primary reasons as you can't please everyone and there may be other things about you that a gal will decide excludes you from being attractive to her.

 

Facial features, body, confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills that generally are big contributes to how physically attractive a guy is.

[somedude81]

But this is my point. There is denying it. I wouldn't argue with your sentence if you were willing to qualify it:

 

 

 

For those of you rolling your eyes at home...tough. Catastrophic thinking, assuming all women are going to have issues with height, etc...that's the kind of negative thinking that paralyzes people. Accepting that different people care about different things is far more constructive.

I wish I could agree with you, but I don't think it can be limited to just "some women."

 

More like, "some women don't care about height."

 

The my problem becomes more apparent because while she may not care about height, she could care about something else and rule me out because of something else.

 

Here's my basic fear.

 

I figure that about 70% of women under 30 consider a man being under 5'8 a dealbreaker.

 

Then that leaves a very small number of available women. Who then could only be into a certain type of man. Like Girl A doesn't care about height as long as he's a musician. Girl B doesn't care about height as long as he's really funny, and so on.

 

Somehow I have to find a girl who doesn't care about height, who can be into me.

 

Unfortunately, I really doubt that asking out at least one girl a week is going to lead me to her.

[Koaks]

With money even you can get a shallow, human female.

[Jane2011]

What I don't get is your being hung up on 'preferring'. A woman who dates guys who are 5'6" is still no good just on the grounds that she prefers the height 5'10" or 5'11"

 

I'm willing to bet that most of the guys who have dated me preferred taller than me, but were attracted to me anyway. I don't give a damn what they prefer (especially since it's likely just a light, insignificant preference); I'm happy I am included in their attractions.

[jerbear]

Those optimistic, and correct, statements are falling on deaf ears, unfortunately, Jer. Somedude's best solution is to opt out altogether.

 

Someone has to revoke and shred his man card in front of him!

[udolipixie]

The my problem becomes more apparent because while she may not care about height, she could care about something else and rule me out because of something else.

 

Here's my basic fear.

 

I figure that about 70% of women under 30 consider a man being under 5'8 a dealbreaker.

 

Then that leaves a very small number of available women. Who then could only be into a certain type of man. Like Girl A doesn't care about height as long as he's a musician. Girl B doesn't care about height as long as he's really funny, and so on.

It leaves you with a certain amount of available women who haven't been ruled out by your standards as there's plenty of available women.

 

Somehow I have to find a girl who doesn't care about height, who can be into me.

Perhaps best suited with some self-improvement and personal development so you can be the best you.

 

Unfortunately, I really doubt that asking out at least one girl a week is going to lead me to her.

Perhaps ask out more.

[somedude81]

You know something about short men, instead of getting mad, own your height.

Ugh! Own my height?

 

Why do people keep saying that crap?

 

Me 'owning' my height isn't going to suddenly start making women attracted to me. It's not going to suddenly make a girl who would say no, say yes.

 

This may surprise all of you, but when I'm around girls, I don't even think about my height, it's a non-issue. If I get to know somebody and I like who they are, I'll ask her out. A thought like, "She's not going to say yes because I'm short" never crosses my mind.

 

The only exception is with girls much taller than me because it suddenly makes me feel self-conscious. But anybody 5'8 and under, my height or her's never crosses my mind.

It sucks to know that you got dealt a bad hand from nature. So what? I had that at one point, and I'm taller than my parents, who are taller than their parents.

God I wish I was at least as tall as my Dad. I hate being seen walking around with him because it makes me feel so pathetic.

 

Regarding similar heights, don't worry unless your favorite position is 69; even that position the height advantage is gone. It is doing it standing up that is hard. I had one ex who was slightly shorter than me, and she commented on our kissing. I picked her up and put her on the stairs so she is taller than me. We had fun.

Uh, you said don't worry about similar height, then in the very next sentence say that doing it standing up is hard....

 

BTW, 90% of women are within 3 inches of me. So it's not like I'd have to try hard to find a woman that is a similar height to myself.

 

Instead of being a tall woman hater, go out and meet them in real life; if you can stand in front of them, keep pace, whisk them off their feet, dance, show intelligence, they might go on a date with you. From there your personality and how creative you are will keep them.

I don't hate tall women. But they're not that common and certainly not worth passing up everybody else.

[EmpoweredWoman]

Like I said, being tall is dating Affirmative Action for a man. If you are over 6' tall , you go from being a 4-5 to being an 8-9 in the eyes of women, I know so many guys who are ugly, fat and have no personality, but are merely tall and have girlfriends beautiful inside and out that are loyal to them to the death.

 

Meanwhile, from the flip side, if youre a man under 5'10, you can go from a potential 8-9 to a 4-5. If you're a handsome, athletic and interesting guy at 5'6, don't expect for even a second to date a pretty, athletic, interesting girl even if she's 5'2, they are inexplicably in another league according to American society. The only time height doesn't matter for a man is if he is absolutely loaded, and even then youd be shocked at how many women will refuse to date that rich, handsome, charismatic guy over 2 inches of height ROFL!

 

Bring back arranged marriage, or male dominated regulated marriage (IE, monogamy). If women have their way, the next generation of men will be all genetically deformed Marfan's sufferers with low testosterone issues.

[Jono85]

Just as lame as your picking girls shorter than you? I fail to see the difference, please enlighten me.

 

the difference is, most men, including myself, don't pick taller girls out of our insecurity. this insecurity is present b/c 90% of girls openly state they prefer a man to be taller than them (usually in heels).

 

so imo, yes, there's a difference there.

[serial muse]

This may surprise all of you, but when I'm around girls, I don't even think about my height, it's a non-issue. If I get to know somebody and I like who they are, I'll ask her out. A thought like, "She's not going to say yes because I'm short" never crosses my mind.

 

Somedude...seriously, man, I'm going to call BS on this. In fact, I suspect that you talk yourself out of even approaching, let alone asking, women out all the time based on this and other factors. And at this point it's probably so ingrained and knee-jerk in you that you don't even realize it while it's happening. But I would bet large amounts of money that you do think about it and that it's a weapon you wield against yourself on a daily basis.

 

Asking out a girl a week might indeed be enough. How could you know until you try?

[Koaks]

Dumb human females can't get simple logic of superior Male gender...what's new???

[somedude81]

Most likely you can get a GF pretty easily I think what you mean is a GF that fits your standards.

 

I doubt height is the primary reason for why you can't get a GF as there's loads of guys your height and below with a GF and past GFs.

Of course I want a GF who meets my standards. Nobody, male or female, wants to date somebody who doesn't.

 

What you are not realizing is that my standards are far more lax than you think they are.

 

Average looking girl, healthy weight, doesn't have very short hair, not flat-chested, under 30.

 

That describes millions of women in California alone.

There's probably other primary reasons as you can't please everyone and there may be other things about you that a gal will decide excludes you from being attractive to her.

I believe that height is the primary reasons but there are also probably secondary things that are making it hard on me as well.

 

Facial features, body, confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills that generally are big contributes to how physically attractive a guy is.

Confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills are my biggest weaknesses.

 

Thanks to having low confidence and self-esteem, I was shy and quiet for most of my life.

 

So here I am, a guy who is not physically attractive who's confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills are below par.

 

If I was tall or really good looking, the later personality traits wouldn't be that much of a drawback. Conversely if my personality traits were abvoe average, they could overcome me being short and average looking.

[EmpoweredWoman]

Somedude...seriously, man, I'm going to call BS on this. In fact, I suspect that you talk yourself out of even approaching, let alone asking, women out all the time based on this and other factors. And at this point it's probably so ingrained and knee-jerk in you that you don't even realize it while it's happening. But I would bet large amounts of money that you do think about it and that it's a weapon you wield against yourself on a daily basis.

 

Asking out a girl a week might indeed be enough. How could you know until you try?

 

 

Why do you call BS? I'm the same exact way, I don't even think I'm particularly short at 5'8. But no matter what, no matter how great I am, women still end up going out with the lowest of the low, but who happen to be omg tall.

 

How do I know it matters? I ask some mutual friends to poke around with girls that rejected, all of them said they like guys who are very tall. ALL OF THEM.

 

Stop blaming men for being rejected. Why is it so hard to grasp the concept that the majority of women in this thread openly put forward...that they strongly prefer (in reality, require with very, very amazing and few exceptions, for the more generous ones) a guy whose taller?

 

Women are superficial. And by and large, really love a guy who is tall, it doesn't matter if it makes no logical sense, women aren't ever logical. It's one of those retarded little woman quirks that handsomely rewards a few, and brutally punishes everyone else.

 

The only thing men have to blame themselves for, is letting women out without any restrictions. Women without boundaries lead to a society crashing and burning.

[somedude81]

Somedude...seriously, man, I'm going to call BS on this. In fact, I suspect that you talk yourself out of even approaching, let alone asking, women out all the time based on this and other factors. And at this point it's probably so ingrained and knee-jerk in you that you don't even realize it while it's happening. But I would bet large amounts of money that you do think about it and that it's a weapon you wield against yourself on a daily basis.

 

Asking out a girl a week might indeed be enough. How could you know until you try?

I don't randomly approach girls.

 

What I prefer to do is meet girls in an environment where I am going to see them more than once. In places like class, work, campus clubs etc, I talk to every girl that catches my eye then I ask out the ones I have the most fun with.

 

My height is never a thought.

 

Though what I'm figuring out is that, that method of meeting women is flawed.

[ThaWholigan]

Of course I want a GF who meets my standards. Nobody, male or female, wants to date somebody who doesn't.

 

What you are not realizing is that my standards are far more lax than you think they are.

 

Average looking girl, healthy weight, doesn't have very short hair, not flat-chested, under 30.

 

That describes millions of women in California alone.

I believe that height is the primary reasons but there are also probably secondary things that are making it hard on me as well.

 

Confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills are my biggest weaknesses.

 

Thanks to having low confidence and self-esteem, I was shy and quiet for most of my life.

 

So here I am, a guy who is not physically attractive who's confidence, self-esteem, communication, and social skills are below par.

 

If I was tall or really good looking, the later personality traits wouldn't be that much of a drawback. Conversely if my personality traits were abvoe average, they could overcome me being short and average looking.

All those things can be worked on. Please understand this, it's important. I was weak at those things too, now I'm getting better at it by the day. They are NOT SET IN STONE!!!

 

Please start to work on them, and you will get better. I promise you it will change. Just don't quit.

[verhrzn]

Of course I want a GF who meets my standards. Nobody, male or female, wants to date somebody who doesn't.

 

What you are not realizing is that my standards are far more lax than you think they are.

 

Average looking girl, healthy weight, doesn't have very short hair, not flat-chested, under 30.

 

Your standards have already been discussed and dissected to great detail on this board, and every female who has stepped into the conversation has pointed out that no, your standards go BEYOND this. You are extremely critical of women's bodies and appearance, and yet frame yourself as having "normal" standards. It's disingenuous and a major mark against you.

 

Untangle that, get some confidence, ask out some girls. The advice is always the same. Why do you ignore such helpful and straight forward advice? Even if "growing" the confidence is difficult, asking out girls is not. I'd kill for a solution to my similar problem that is so easy to undertake.

[somedude81]

All those things can be worked on. Please understand this, it's important. I was weak at those things too, now I'm getting better at it by the day. They are NOT SET IN STONE!!!

 

Please start to work on them, and you will get better. I promise you it will change. Just don't quit.

Start to work on them?

 

I 'started' when I was in my early 20's forcing myself to be more sociable and confident. It's an every day thing. I've seen counselors, joined sports teams, been to speech therapy, been an active member in campus clubs, taken dance classes, tried to learn a foreign language etc.

 

I've completely changed from who I was 10 years ago, but it's still not enough

Edited March 26, 2012 by somedude81

[ThaWholigan]

Start to work on them?

 

I 'started' when I was in my early 20's forcing myself to be more sociable and confident. It's an every day thing. I've seen counselors, joined sports teams, been to speech therapy, been an active member in campus clubs, taken dance classes, tried to learn a foreign language etc.

 

I've completely changed from who I was 10 years ago, but it's still not enough

Keep doing it. It never stops. Learn to enjoy the process, that's what I'm doing. The more I enjoy what I'm doing, the better the journey is for me. I think the key is to stop being so down about everything. It's really not as bad as you think it is. Self-improvement is a lifelong journey. Learn to enjoy it, otherwise you will always be unhappy. And it will be even harder to get a GF. Stop believing in the cycle, and make your own. Learn to make things fun.

[Anela]

I wish I could agree with you, but I don't think it can be limited to just "some women."

 

More like, "some women don't care about height."

 

The my problem becomes more apparent because while she may not care about height, she could care about something else and rule me out because of something else.

 

Here's my basic fear.

 

I figure that about 70% of women under 30 consider a man being under 5'8 a dealbreaker.

 

Then that leaves a very small number of available women. Who then could only be into a certain type of man. Like Girl A doesn't care about height as long as he's a musician. Girl B doesn't care about height as long as he's really funny, and so on.

 

Somehow I have to find a girl who doesn't care about height, who can be into me.

 

Unfortunately, I really doubt that asking out at least one girl a week is going to lead me to her.

 

Damn it, I want to say something - I've been thinking about how to respond to you since yesterday, because I can relate to you, but I also understand what others are getting at in their responses to you. I can't organize my thoughts, though, and others here communicate theirs so much better than I do (usually).

 

I just hope that you aren't still feeling this way when you're almost 37, like me. Hindsight really hit me when I was 34, and that was what came before my big depression; getting my heart broken around the same time, was just the icing on the cake.

Edited March 26, 2012 by Anela

[oldguy]

Ah, there is nothing like slow dancing with a very tall woman with large breasts:lmao::lmao:

 

What? too sexist?

[Koaks]

Nothing like a fast dance with slow fatty with small tits....what too real?

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Ah, there is nothing like slow dancing with a very tall woman with large breasts:lmao::lmao:

 

What? too sexist?

 

Only from one of the best movies in the world.

[oldguy]

^

I'm still looking for that 6' 8" dance partner:laugh:

Koaks; Nothing like a fast dance with slow fatty with small tits....what too real?

You have your fantasies I'll keep mine

Edited March 26, 2012 by oldguy