udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Looking one would think the word youth bring a lot of anger in women Looking one would think that any discussion of how stating that youth is why he chose her about a guy who pursues younger women because he wants younger women brings a lot of defensiveness in men. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 While I appreciate the 'peace keeping' of the two guys posting 'Who cares? Let them have their preferences. Why are you making such a big deal out of it?' here, I honestly feel that you guys would have a lot more success if you directed your posts unilaterally towards both types of threads, not just those about men's preferences. I don't know about the others, but when I see you posting ONLY here, while you remain completely silent on its sister threads which are full of men bashing women's preferences, it doesn't make me feel terribly inclined to see your efforts as true peacekeeping, but rather participation in the very gender-baiting activity you claim to abhor, just in a different way. There are other people, both men and women, who do have consistent responses across the board about preferences, and those tend to garner much more respect IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Because younger girls look better than older women and because we can! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 While I appreciate the 'peace keeping' of the two guys posting 'Who cares? Let them have their preferences. Why are you making such a big deal out of it?' here, I honestly feel that you guys would have a lot more success if you directed your posts unilaterally towards both types of threads, not just those about men's preferences. I don't know about the others, but when I see you posting ONLY here, while you remain completely silent on its sister threads which are full of men bashing women's preferences, it doesn't make me feel terribly inclined to see your efforts as true peacekeeping, but rather participation in the very gender-baiting activity you claim to abhor, just in a different way. There are other people, both men and women, who do have consistent responses across the board about preferences, and those tend to garner much more respect IMO. If one would notice I am equally hard on the men too. Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Looking one would think that any discussion of how stating that youth is why he chose her about a guy who pursues younger women because he wants younger women brings a lot of defensiveness in men. I'm just saying. Sh*t I date women older than me. I just think its crazy to make a big fuss over people's preferences that goes for men or women Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 The first point should have been that he is with her because she is sweet. Not just because of her age (although he only looked in a pool of women around her age for a sweet one). My point is that he's with her because of her age as if she didn't have it she'd be ruled out and her sweetness wouldn't matter. My point isn't that he is with her just because of her age. I stated it's her age and sweetness going by what you said age got her considered & sweetness got her considered over other young women. The part about her always being younger was to show that he continues to love her and be attracted to her as she ages. Seems that part shows more that he continued to love her and be attracted to her as she ages because she's younger than him. Comparatively she's not aging at the same rate as him as " she will always be younger than him. She's aging, but she isn't catching up to him". He has never denied that he wanted a younger woman, but he does not need to her be forever young to maintain his attraction. I wasn't stating, implying, or suggesting that he needed her to be forever young to maintain his attraction. To me it's he wanted younger and he got that he needs her to be younger than him to maintain his attraction. Since she'll always be younger than him the attraction is maintained. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Toss up to me. Her youth isn't the only reason he is with her. Her youth is the only and/or primary reason he considered being with her. Her youth is the only and/or primary reason he wanted to be with her. He was attracted to her relative youth. But he fell in love with her personality. He wanted younger than him & he got it. Agree! He would agree, too! My point is that he is not with her ONLY because of her looks, or her youth. DY said: They might tell themselves they really care about these women but the only reason they are with them to begin with is because of their looks. I'm saying that is not necessarily the case. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm just saying. Sh*t I date women older than me. I just think its crazy to make a big fuss over people's preferences that goes for men or women I'm not seeing much of a big fuss over people's preferences. I saw some gals labeled it gross or disgusting to them. I saw some gals get upset over the insults, degrading, and dehumanizing of women their age by men. As for me I'm just stating that her youth is the main reason he's with her in the case of a guy who wanted younger women and pursued them. As most likely if she wasn't younger then he wouldn't have been with her since he wanted & pursued younger. That's not making a fuss if anything that's stating your preferences is why you're with your partner. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 No my actual point is after a certain point why even devote the energy to it. I am stating my opinion and I really don't give a sh*t who has a problem with it. Like I said before I hold my mouth for no one. I mean damn its crazy to have a few pages venting with the same people to me that is a pity party. I would say the same for guys too so don't go thinking I'm just doing this to the women Except the thing is NO ONE told you to "hold your mouth for" someone. What is crazy to me is to get in a thread and tell other people they shouldn't be talking about this! And that is exactly what you are doing. You have allocated the right to have and speak your opinion in the same thread where you have told others not to talk about a subject because of "devoting" unneccesary energy to it. That makes no sense Joystickd. If you were instead talking about the issue, no worries. But that's not what you are doing. You are complaining about people talking about the issue. Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm not seeing much of a big fuss over people's preferences. I saw some gals labeled it gross or disgusting to them. I saw some gals get upset over the insults, degrading, and dehumanizing of women their age by men. As for me I'm just stating that her youth is the main reason he's with her in the case of a guy who wanted younger women and pursued them. As most likely if she wasn't younger then he wouldn't have been with her since he wanted & pursued younger. That's not making a fuss if anything that's stating your preferences is why you're with your partner. That's what it seems like I mean you spent a post reiterating to xxoo about he chose her for her youth. Youth youth youth. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To me that makes "they might tell themselves they really care about these women but the only reason they are with them to begin with is because of their looks" that you claim isn't necessarily true actually true in the case you described. He chose her for her looks her young/younger than him looks and the stance of she'll always be younger than me enforces that to me. Seems more like he chose her because of her youth and sweetness with it being primarily her youth. Most likely her sweetness is what made him chose her over other young women as if she was his age her sweetness wouldn't matter. Exactly right Udolipixie. I just wonder what the age are of the women he probably checks out when she is or isn't around. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 He was attracted to her relative youth. But he fell in love with her personality. That's essentially what I said. Essentially as I added he most likely wouldn't have fallen in love with her or be with her if she wasn't younger than him. Agree! He would agree, too! My point is that he is not with her ONLY because of her looks, or her youth. Something I agreed with. DY said: They might tell themselves they really care about these women but the only reason they are with them to begin with is because of their looks. I'm saying that is not necessarily the case. That's what I disagreed with the that's not necessarily the case. As to begin with the reason she was considered was her age. If she wasn't in the age range he desired he wouldn't have considered her.to begin with. They most likely wouldn't have cared, loved, etc these women if these women weren't to begin didn't have the ages they wanted as with the association of looks & age. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Looking one would think the word youth bring a lot of anger in women Then you haven't read or understood anything you read in this topic. Women accept they get older. Women want to be loved and appreciated no matter their age. Basically, a number of men here think that their worth as men is "better" when men think that women their own age are not "attractive" or "worthy" enough to date. Both women AND men get older. And men aren't getting more attractive. But it does seem women emotionally evolve more in this area then men who let their sexuality remain stagnet to their early years. I think this partially has something to do with men feeling their own age more and not being mature enough to grow with their age and expound on what life, love, sexuality and relationships mean outside the limiting scope of what the world presents about where the worth of women lies. Women aren't angry about "youth". Women want to be loved and cared for no matter their age and don't want to be on the side lines while men of their OWN age autmoatically write them off as unworthy while these men tell themselves they have more worth. Act like they aren't aging or that they can or even should, have babies into their older years. No man wants to be used for his money. No woman wants to be used for her body and looks. Women don't want their looks to be the principal of their worth just as men don't want their money to be the principal of theirs. And it does seem to me that certain men here get a "glee" from treating women this way because of how wronged they felt when they where turned down when the ywere younger. Hate to tell you guys but I was turned down by guys when I was younger too! Guess that means I get to date a younger guy because of it? Cut us women a break and start seeing us as people. And stop judging your worth as a man by how pretty or young your partner is. Because you didn't really accomplish anything just because someone younger is dating you. And she certainly hasn't accomplished anything just because she is younger. And if you REALLY think things matter like a woman's heart, then act like it. And show women that's what matters about us. But that's not what guys are doing now is it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 That's what it seems like I mean you spent a post reiterating to xxoo about he chose her for her youth. Youth youth youth. Seems you go into defensive mode if youth is uttered. I spent a post because she stated he wanted young & chose her because she was young while stating it's not necessarily true that the reason he's with her to begin with is because she's young. Recall: I'm "focusing" on that she's younger because: a poster stated men who pursue younger women are with them because they are younger. another poster stated that's not necessarily true as one guy with a much younger partner stated she'll always be younger than him & he chose her because he wanted young and sweet. I'm "focusing" because to me that does make the poster who stated men pursue younger women are with them because they are younger to be true. Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Except the thing is NO ONE told you to "hold your mouth for" someone. What is crazy to me is to get in a thread and tell other people they shouldn't be talking about this! And that is exactly what you are doing. You have allocated the right to have and speak your opinion in the same thread where you have told others not to talk about a subject because of "devoting" unneccesary energy to it. That makes no sense Joystickd. If you were instead talking about the issue, no worries. But that's not what you are doing. You are complaining about people talking about the issue. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/98577-i-dont-trust-men I am tired of arguing with you. If you look I said it was cool to vent. I never said don't talk about it. I just said after a certain point venting and stressing on something is stupid. Nowhere on this thread said don't even talk about it. You just dont respect men and this thread proves it and since you dont respect men you assume men do the same when it comes to women. You can have this pity party. Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Seems you go into defensive mode if youth is uttered. I spent a post because she stated he wanted young & chose her because she was young while stating it's not necessarily true that the reason he's with her to begin with is because she's young. Recall: I'm "focusing" on that she's younger because: a poster stated men who pursue younger women are with them because they are younger. another poster stated that's not necessarily true as one guy with a much younger partner stated she'll always be younger than him & he chose her because he wanted young and sweet. I'm "focusing" because to me that does make the poster who stated men pursue younger women are with them because they are younger to be true. i said I date women older than me. Are you blind? Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Exactly right Udolipixie. I just wonder what the age are of the women he probably checks out when she is or isn't around. Most likely the age range is the age she was when they began. From my observations attraction doesn't change often. To me you can love & be attracted to your partner but be attracted or more attracted to others as well. A guy I know is attracted to thin gals and his partner who used to be thin is heavier than she was and he checks out gals that are thin. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) i said I date women older than me. Are you blind? Seems you are blind. I didn't make any statements about your dating preferences. I was stating it seems you're defensive about the word youth. You don't have to be involved in something to be defensive about it. I know plenty of people who aren't gay who are defensive of homophobic sayings/actions. You seem quite bothered I "spent a post" in a discussion of a someone stating it's not necessarily true he's with her to begin with because of a preference in relation to a guy wanting & pursing his preference and choosing a partner with that preference. Apparently discussing how it is true he's with her to begin with because of his preference as he wanted it and most likely wouldn't be with her if she'd didn't have it is making a fuss over youth. Rather than being logical and stating if she didn't X he most likely wouldn't be with her so he is with her to begin with because of X and he wanted & pursued X. Edited March 29, 2012 by udolipixie Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 That's what I disagreed with the that's not necessarily the case. Not sure if you are disagreeing with me or not As to begin with the reason she was considered was her age. If she wasn't in the age range he desired he wouldn't have considered her.to begin with. They most likely wouldn't have cared, loved, etc these women if these women weren't to begin didn't have the ages they wanted as with the association of looks & age. But does that matter in the long run, if they find lasting love? Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Exactly right Udolipixie. I just wonder what the age are of the women he probably checks out when she is or isn't around. I'm sure he notices other woman, at least up to her current age. But you'd be hard pressed to find a man more focused on his wife. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Most likely the age range is the age she was when they began. From my observations attraction doesn't change often. To me you can love & be attracted to your partner but be attracted or more attracted to others as well. A guy I know is attracted to thin gals and his partner who used to be thin is heavier than she was and he checks out gals that are thin. I have a theory that men "see" their partner how they first met them. Even if their wife ages or gains weight, they see the "young girl" they fell in love with--at least as long as they are in love. And I think this contributes to aging men looking for younger women. If they meet here while she is still young, she will ALWAYS be young in his eyes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Not sure if you are disagreeing with me or not I'm agreeing that he doesn't love her just or only for her youth. I'm disagreeing that the reason he loved her to begin with is her youth as if she wasn't younger than him he most likely wouldn't have loved her as he wouldn't have considered her. But does that matter in the long run, if they find lasting love? I wasn't stating, implying, or suggesting it does. I was stating that the necessarily isn't true he cares for her to begin with because of her age associated with looks was wrong to me because he wouldn't have cared for her if she wasn't younger than him. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I have a theory that men "see" their partner how they first met them. Even if their wife ages or gains weight, they see the "young girl" they fell in love with--at least as long as they are in love. To me that theory applies to some men. If it was men in general or majority I doubt there'd be so much talk of aging wifes, replacing wifes with new models, fear of her not keeping up her appearance, talk of stretch marks/cellulite/wrinkles, how younger is better, focusing more on younger gals than the same age partner, etc. And I think this contributes to aging men looking for younger women. If they meet here while she is still young, she will ALWAYS be young in his eyes. That's because she'll always be younger than him. Hence why many gals I know subscribe to guys value a gal for her youth/beauty. You can't always be pretty but you can always be younger than him. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 edit I'm agreeing that he doesn't love her just or only for her youth. I'm disagreeing to the not necessarily true that reason he loved her to begin with is her youth as if she wasn't younger than him he most likely wouldn't have loved her as he wouldn't have considered her. Link to post Share on other sites
AIDsFan1488 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 edit I'm agreeing that he doesn't love her just or only for her youth. I'm disagreeing to the not necessarily true that reason he loved her to begin with is her youth as if she wasn't younger than him he most likely wouldn't have loved her as he wouldn't have considered her. Wow, watching you argue is like hearing nails on a chalkboard. You make a damning statement, then nitpick your way out of it worse than OJ Simpson's defense lawyers when you realize it might hurt your popularity. Link to post Share on other sites
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