Why do older guys go for the much younger girl?

[Anela]

In this thread a few women have claimed they dated older men.

Yet the men are still the one's getting bashed.

If a woman on this thread bashed one of those women I missed it.

 

Which is my point.

Only these men who prefer younger women are getting bashed & not the younger women who prefer men.

 

How many pages is this thread?

How many women posting in it?

 

You'd think at least one woman would of taken a run at the younger girls taking their men away.

 

And I will point out again, that I've only seen women reacting to men exclusively chasing youth (or seeming to be), rather than just happening to meet and connect with a young woman that they find attractive. There aren't many younger women here, claiming that they chase older men exclusively, and that the older women should just get over it. I wonder how many men would only see it as fair, if the older women did start to last out at the younger women, or if they would just continue to call the older women bitter.

 

*edit. Did those younger women say that they exclusively chased older men?

[Anela]

I think it's more the inference that, if those young women weren't open to older men, that those same men would "settle" for someone around my age or older. I know that I find the idea of that offensive.

[salparadise]

Men (in general) aren't telling women they are crappy as they get older. A few trolls do, but not men in general.

 

First of all, there is a difference between not being generally sexually attracted to women in XX age range and thinking women in XX age range are crappy and worthless. A man can think that an 80 year old woman is an amazing person, and respect her deeply, but not be sexually attracted to her. Replace with any age, and this is still true.

 

Secondly, just because a man is initially more attracted to a woman in a lower age range (and I think some of this is simply logical--youth is beautiful), doesn't mean he will lose attraction for her as she ages. Especially if he falls in love and stays in love, he will always see her as the youthful beauty he fell in love with. Even when she is 99.

 

Third, men can fall in love with a "youthful beauty" of any age. If he looks in your eyes and sees "youthful beauty" (whether you are 19 or 69), he will be attracted. He might see that in 90% of all 20 year olds, and only 5% of all 40 years olds, but if you stay youthful in energy and attitude, men will be attracted.

 

But the bitterness and negativity is the opposite of youthful energy and attitude, so it can be a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

Very well said xxoo!

 

One thing that drives me nuts is when people cite their own preferences, rationalizations and anecdotal experiences as evidence that contrary behavioral patterns do not exist. You can present an anecdotal example of almost anything and all it proves is that the pattern you're arguing against has at least one exception. If one truly wants to understand trends and preponderances, then one has to set their own biases aside, not use them as evidence, and certainly not weight them more heavily than all other evidence, or draw conclusions directly from that single, heavily biased datapoint. If you're going to argue a point, at least present it in a manner that is compelling and doesn't cause it to be immediately dismissible.

[phineas]

And I will point out again, that I've only seen women reacting to men exclusively chasing youth (or seeming to be), rather than just happening to meet and connect with a young woman that they find attractive. There aren't many younger women here, claiming that they chase older men exclusively, and that the older women should just get over it. I wonder how many men would only see it as fair, if the older women did start to last out at the younger women, or if they would just continue to call the older women bitter.

 

*edit. Did those younger women say that they exclusively chased older men?

 

I don't know what you mean with the bolded. (srs)

 

Ok, I hear you, a few women just said they have dated many older men. They didn't specify if it was exclusive & i'm not going to assume one way or the other.

 

But, how many men here are claiming they exclusively date younger women?

I don't think i've seen any claim that either.

 

what I see is men who say younger women show interest in them or they don't care about age & them being accused of only going for younger women after they claim they don't.

 

I've also don't think older men exclusivly chasing younger women happens as much as some of the women claim.

To hear them tell it there is an outbreak of men who only exclusively date younger women. How do these women actually know that unless they know many men personally?

 

Because a guy choose a younger woman over them?

That means nothing really. Maybe a few guys only date younger woman after younger woman (i know a few who do) but a lot just ended up with a younger girl because SHE was interested in him.

 

Judging by some posts I get the idea some here seem to think they deserve a man their age instead of a younger woman.

 

Also, as I said earlier, bashing older men who only chase younger women is pointless. These older men aren't wizards.

The younger women have to be interested in them in the first place.

 

so these guys arent even a part of their dating pool to begin with & never will.

Trying to shame them isn't going to work either because let's face it, older people (man or woman) nabbing a younger mate get's a pat on the back by close friends.

 

I mean nobody that I know took a run at Demi for nabbing austin kucher.

[phineas]

I think it's more the inference that, if those young women weren't open to older men, that those same men would "settle" for someone around my age or older. I know that I find the idea of that offensive.

 

I personally can't comment on that either because the older guys I knew (50's) dating younger women wound up settling down with a woman their own age eventually.

 

I really think it was just a matter of them getting divorced & just wanting fun with younger women.

 

I'm sure there are older guys who will do this until they die. (hugh hefner, charlie sheen) for example.

 

But I doubt it's an epidemic.

I just think based on the self-importance & the quickness in which some women toss out the "bitter" moniker to men really just show's their own bitterness and men see this in them in real life & just don't want anything to do with it.

 

I see a lot of entitlement from women my own age. They expect to be treated like a princess & chased & have money spent on them.

 

They act like I should feel lucky their even with me. Then there is the flaking last minute, trying to make me jealous & the insecurity. Don't get me started on the insecurity.

Not ALL women, but the majority of those in 40 age range.

 

I don't want to deal with that crap.

 

Last summer I dated a few women 30 & under & they were just happy I didn't drink till U puked every weekend, knew how to give them an orgasm, & cooked dinner for them. Hell opening the door for them or unlocking their door first on the car blew their minds.

 

A lot of younger guys (not all) just don't know how to treat a lady (or at least the guys these ladies had dated in the past)

 

Hell, I cooked dinner for a 30yr old woman & she claimed that was the first time a guy cooked her a real dinner. THAT blows my mind.

 

also, those women APPROACHED me.

Not the other way around.

[123321]

First of all, there is a difference between not being generally sexually attracted to women in XX age range and thinking women in XX age range are crappy and worthless. A man can think that an 80 year old woman is an amazing person, and respect her deeply, but not be sexually attracted to her. Replace with any age, and this is still true.

 

Secondly, just because a man is initially more attracted to a woman in a lower age range (and I think some of this is simply logical--youth is beautiful), doesn't mean he will lose attraction for her as she ages. Especially if he falls in love and stays in love, he will always see her as the youthful beauty he fell in love with. Even when she is 99.

 

Third, men can fall in love with a "youthful beauty" of any age. If he looks in your eyes and sees "youthful beauty" (whether you are 19 or 69), he will be attracted. He might see that in 90% of all 20 year olds, and only 5% of all 40 years olds, but if you stay youthful in energy and attitude, men will be attracted.

 

But the bitterness and negativity is the opposite of youthful energy and attitude, so it can be a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

Thank you for saying it so beautifully and clearly.

[phineas]

I think it's more the inference that, if those young women weren't open to older men, that those same men would "settle" for someone around my age or older. I know that I find the idea of that offensive.

 

But if younger women weren't interested in older men at all then these men probably wouldn't exist in the first place.

Right?

 

But because these women do exist men have a choice.

And honestly like I said I doubt there are nearly as many men who only date women much younger than themselves.

[Anela]

But if younger women weren't interested in older men at all then these men probably wouldn't exist in the first place.

Right?

 

But because these women do exist men have a choice.

And honestly like I said I doubt there are nearly as many men who only date women much younger than themselves.

 

But if I you had been dating me, and we'd hit it off, and then you chose a younger woman than me to seriously date, solely because of her age - that isn't on her, that's on you. Isn't it? Or if we hit it off, but you chose younger women to date - didn't even ask me out - solely because of their age.

 

I'm almost thirty-seven, and what you described before sounds good to me.

I've been put off with men my age, aiming their dating profiles at younger women. It's the automatically being put on the back-burner, when we're the same age, that bugs me. I might "do", but they would prefer the younger babe.

Edited April 3, 2012 by Anela

[phineas]

But if I you had been dating me, and we'd hit it off, and then you chose a younger woman than me to seriously date, solely because of her age - that isn't on her, that's on you. Isn't it?

 

I'm almost thirty-seven, and what you described before sounds good to me.

 

If she was MUCH younger like over 10yrs younger (which is what I think we are talking about) i'd have to agree it was because she was younger & it would be on him.

 

But less than 10yrs and the woman would have to have nothing to offer but her looks & youth to convince me & 5 yrs younger? not even a blip on the radar.

 

i'm 40. I know a few women my own age i'd date seriously in a heartbeat & actually tried to date seriously.

But they played too many games like claiming younger men were asking them out & other such stuff.

Not to mention always showing up late or cancelling last minute/ waiting a day or two to call me back or respond to a txt. Really?

 

it just turned me off.

 

I wound up still hitting a concert after a woman my own age blew me off. A younger woman (29) came up to me with the line "this creepy old guy is hitting on me, can you pretend your with me so he leaves me alone?" ("creepy old" guy looked about same age as me but was sporting a power-gut, iron maiden t-shirt & unkempt hair/comb over.)

LOL!

 

She started dancing with me, then against me. After the concert:

"oh no, I can't find my friend's. Let's see if their at one of the bar's"

(I didn't suggest she call because I wanted to see what she was doing)

And before the night is over I got a number & I think I bought her maybe one drink.

 

Seriously, a young woman looking for just fun is dropped in my lap. Nothing was wrong with her, she didn't annoy me & she made good convo so why not?

 

She wanted marriage & kids & knew I didn't so we just had some fun. when she met a guy her own age interested in the same things as her we parted ways.

[phineas]

But if I you had been dating me, and we'd hit it off, and then you chose a younger woman than me to seriously date, solely because of her age - that isn't on her, that's on you. Isn't it? Or if we hit it off, but you chose younger women to date - didn't even ask me out - solely because of their age.

 

I'm almost thirty-seven, and what you described before sounds good to me.

I've been put off with men my age, aiming their dating profiles at younger women. It's the automatically being put on the back-burner, when we're the same age, that bugs me. I might "do", but they would prefer the younger babe.

 

To comment on the edit:

I see salary & height preferences from women all the time on match. I message them anyways. LOL!

I've had women wink at me even though I don't meet their e-stats.

 

I've got 36-42 in my age range & i'm 40.

I originally was only +/- 2yrs but I get A LOT of 34-37yr old's looking at my profile.

Though I have messaged a few 45yr olds that were athletic like me.

 

also a lot of the women my age have like 42/43 as their max age & go down to 33/34.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Wow. It's almost as if you literally don't read anything in my posts. It's like you see it and then respond without reading it.

 

I do not view women as depriciating in value as they age. I am a man.

 

I view a women who works on her insecurity issues and trys to understand men as highly valuable.

 

Badsingularity. I really thought when you first came into this post you were open to an exchange in dialogue. But I am not so sure that's the case. I've asked you to further explain the things you said. I admit I don't always understand men. And when I ask these questions all you can do is put me down and make a thinly veild assumption about my level of "security" or "insecurity" while telling me try and understand men. I am! And yet, you put me down and chalk me up to being insecure. How do you suppose that's suppose to help me understand men?

 

Before you said:

 

Men and women are different. You need to come to terms with this if you want to have a deep trusting relationship with a man.

 

What I have concluded from this is that you are saying men adn wome nare different. That men will judge women for their age and looks in ways women won't. Yet you say that women need to understand that this is how men are to form deep and trusting relationships with men. How does a woman do that if men see them as less themselves when women are their own age?

[Badsingularity]

Men (in general) aren't telling women they are crappy as they get older. A few trolls do, but not men in general.

 

First of all, there is a difference between not being generally sexually attracted to women in XX age range and thinking women in XX age range are crappy and worthless. A man can think that an 80 year old woman is an amazing person, and respect her deeply, but not be sexually attracted to her. Replace with any age, and this is still true.

 

Secondly, just because a man is initially more attracted to a woman in a lower age range (and I think some of this is simply logical--youth is beautiful), doesn't mean he will lose attraction for her as she ages. Especially if he falls in love and stays in love, he will always see her as the youthful beauty he fell in love with. Even when she is 99.

 

Third, men can fall in love with a "youthful beauty" of any age. If he looks in your eyes and sees "youthful beauty" (whether you are 19 or 69), he will be attracted. He might see that in 90% of all 20 year olds, and only 5% of all 40 years olds, but if you stay youthful in energy and attitude, men will be attracted.

 

But the bitterness and negativity is the opposite of youthful energy and attitude, so it can be a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

 

DY. Please read this post by xxoo over and over again.

 

Pay special attention to the last sentence.

 

Love a man for being a man and he will love you for being a woman.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Xxoo.

Men (in general) aren't telling women they are crappy as they get older. A few trolls do, but not men in general.

 

As usual, we see things differently XXOO.

 

It seems like a majority of men on LS infact are telling women how crappy they get as they get older. And it's really a miniority of men that like, ARE ATTRACTED to, women their own age. ANd yes, I think it's an issue of respect, and how you seey our own worth compared to women. I think these type of men think they are better with age. And they pick younger women because they think younger women are better. You can fancy it up anyway you want but it does not distract from that core message. And that is the core message.

 

First of all, there is a difference between not being generally sexually attracted to women in XX age range and thinking women in XX age range are crappy and worthless. A man can think that an 80 year old woman is an amazing person, and respect her deeply, but not be sexually attracted to her. Replace with any age, and this is still true.

 

If you are talking about a singular 80 year old woman and a singular 80 year old man then yes, it's find if he sees her as an amazing person and respects the person she is and is not sexually attractive. However, that's not really the discussion that's being had. If you are talking about a general group of men in their 80s unable to be attracted to women their own age, then I argue how much respect those kind of men really have for women and how they infact do see their worth. There is a huge difference between any one person not being attracted to another of any age group and a general view of men saying how much better younger women are and that it's just what they want because younger women are better for x,y and z reasons. And just as you said, insert any age into that.

 

 

Secondly, just because a man is initially more attracted to a woman in a lower age range (and I think some of this is simply logical--youth is beautiful), doesn't mean he will lose attraction for her as she ages. Especially if he falls in love and stays in love, he will always see her as the youthful beauty he fell in love with. Even when she is 99.

 

There is a huge difference between acknowledging that youth is beautiful and fetishing age to a point where you specifically pick partners based on that criteria. Just as is the same where women fetishize money and specifically pick men based on that criteria. People do not want to be the extent of their ages and money. Is that really hard to understand?

 

Most women don't want to be with men that hold them to higher standards of youth and looks then they hold themselves. Most women don't want to be with a man that rationalizes him picking women younger themselves because

of how much better he thinks younger women are while he fails to see women his own age as beautiful and lovely and attractive.

 

It behoves women to pick men that grow in their attraction and sexuality as the years go by. Not pick men that stay in a frat-boy mindframe about sex and sexuality. This way a woman gaurentess to be with a man that not only respects her but finds her attractive and who isn't always turning his head for the 20 year old. When I see men out with their wives and gfs that are older then me, and they see his head turn to check me out. I see the look in their faces. I don't look at the man. I look at the woman. And the woman knows what he is looking at. And it's written exactly on their faces how that man is making her feel. And we can go into tangent conversations about "insecurity" but the reality is that men can do certain things that infact hurt women. And these reasons are JUST as logical why a woman might feel hurt.

 

Now XXOO, if you want to be with the type of man you described in your paragraph. Great! I don't want to be with the type of older man that picks me because I am younger and thinks he's a big stud for it while not respecting or being able to be attracted to women his own age. And I don't want to be stuck with a man that's forever looking at, oggling, fetishing youth. Your sexuality is suppose to grow with the rest of you. This is a concept that is hard for people to understand.

 

And the fact is, men that pick women purely based on age are not doing it because of deep love and respect for women. Neither are the ydoing it because they think women are their equals.

 

Now I am sure there are many men that love their wives. And I am sure there are many men that are always turning their head for women younger then their own wives. I know which man I want to be with. You are free to be with whatever man you choose.

 

 

Third, men can fall in love with a "youthful beauty" of any age. If he looks in your eyes and sees "youthful beauty" (whether you are 19 or 69), he will be attracted. He might see that in 90% of all 20 year olds, and only 5% of all 40 years olds, but if you stay youthful in energy and attitude, men will be attracted.

 

I haven't seen one man say anything like that in this thread, that they would date or find a youthful 69 year old beautiful and worthy of dating. I am also so sick of repeatidly hearing people say "men just like 20 year olds deal with it. BUT you better work hard to understand men because that's what they want and need and men want you to understand how mcuh more they just like younger women. That's just the way it is becausse men can be old and do anything they want!" I mean, seriously. That's about the mentality that is being fostered. Men want women to understand them. Men want women to respect them. Men want women to think they are good men. Yet men are sitting here pretty much saying after a certain age women are no good or they are less then the young pretty ones. And that older men deserve to be with younger women after all.

 

But the bitterness and negativity is the opposite of youthful energy and attitude, so it can be a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

I am so tired of your little lectures XXOO.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Phineas

"women stuffing their faces" ? Really?

Perhaps you are too sensitive for the internet if that offends you so much.

 

Who said it offended me? I just have learned to pay very close attention to the kind of language a man uses to refer to women on any number of subjects. IT's done me well in weeding out certain people. You can tell a lot from someone by paying attention from these things.

 

Ok. What other "just really disrespectful nasty stuff" have I said about women on this forum.

Quote it.

 

You in general are very negative toward women. You also purposely make little "poke the monkey with a stick" comments on purpose.

 

I say you are lying & making it up.

 

Perhaps I will take the time to go back and re post the things you said. but it will have to be later.

 

 

I love women and show respect to those who don't jump on every man's post calling them bitter.

 

But this is exactly what you've done to a number of women here.

 

The fact you do that all the time toward men on this forum for the littlest things show's who the real bitter one here is.

 

Show me what men I have called bitter on this forum other then you.

 

just because I don't like you don't try & claim I don't like ALL women.

I just don't like you.

 

I acutally never said you don't like all women.

 

There is just something about pretentious bish's that try to put people down & make them feel guilty for having a preference in who they date.

 

 

Just because you spelled it "bish's" doesn't make it any less obvious that you are once again using name calling to refer to specifically women. Remember when you asked me to qoute things you say about women that point to the comments I made, well here is one right in this thread.

 

 

Have I used the word "fattie?"

If I have, quote the post. Otherwise post about it elsewhere & don't try to attribute it to me.

 

If you are complaining about other men on this forum, well....

 

I don't see you policing the other women on this forum so don't expect me to police the other men.

 

 

 

 

But if the older men were being disrespectful to younger women, then how are these guys getting them?

 

hmmm?

[phineas]

Who said it offended me? I just have learned to pay very close attention to the kind of language a man uses to refer to women on any number of subjects. IT's done me well in weeding out certain people. You can tell a lot from someone by paying attention from these things.

 

 

 

You in general are very negative toward women. You also purposely make little "poke the monkey with a stick" comments on purpose.

 

 

 

Perhaps I will take the time to go back and re post the things you said. but it will have to be later.

 

 

 

 

But this is exactly what you've done to a number of women here.

 

 

 

Show me what men I have called bitter on this forum other then you.

 

 

 

I acutally never said you don't like all women.

 

 

 

Just because you spelled it "bish's" doesn't make it any less obvious that you are once again using name calling to refer to specifically women. Remember when you asked me to qoute things you say about women that point to the comments I made, well here is one right in this thread.

 

 

Have I used the word "fattie?"

If I have, quote the post. Otherwise post about it elsewhere & don't try to attribute it to me.

 

If you are complaining about other men on this forum, well....

 

I don't see you policing the other women on this forum so don't expect me to police the other men.

 

 

 

 

But if the older men were being disrespectful to younger women, then how are these guys getting them?

 

hmmm?

 

Bitch.

[Badsingularity]

 

 

I am so tired of your little lectures XXOO.

 

DY I want you to realy think about this.

 

XXOO is very happy in a loving LTR with a man.

 

I am very happy in a loving LTR with a women.

 

We are both telling you the same thing. Yet you still tell us we are wrong.

[kaylan]

Lol @ this thread still going. Pointless really.

[mesmerized]

XXOO have been out of the dating scene for a long time. From her posts it seems like she hasn't dated all that much at all. I tend to not take these people's advice seriously.

[phineas]

Who said it offended me? I just have learned to pay very close attention to the kind of language a man uses to refer to women on any number of subjects. IT's done me well in weeding out certain people. You can tell a lot from someone by paying attention from these things.

 

 

 

You in general are very negative toward women. You also purposely make little "poke the monkey with a stick" comments on purpose.

 

 

 

Perhaps I will take the time to go back and re post the things you said. but it will have to be later.

 

 

 

 

But this is exactly what you've done to a number of women here.

 

 

 

Show me what men I have called bitter on this forum other then you.

 

 

 

I acutally never said you don't like all women.

 

 

 

Just because you spelled it "bish's" doesn't make it any less obvious that you are once again using name calling to refer to specifically women. Remember when you asked me to qoute things you say about women that point to the comments I made, well here is one right in this thread.

 

 

Have I used the word "fattie?"

If I have, quote the post. Otherwise post about it elsewhere & don't try to attribute it to me.

 

If you are complaining about other men on this forum, well....

 

I don't see you policing the other women on this forum so don't expect me to police the other men.

 

 

 

 

But if the older men were being disrespectful to younger women, then how are these guys getting them?

 

hmmm?

 

Hmm, I would of though bitch would of been blocked by the forum.

Again, I don't like YOU and any woman who puts words in my mouth.

 

And every woman here i've flamed has done that to me in this thread & have done it to me in other threads.

I just troll them for luls because their just man bashers and not interested in dicsusing anything.

 

You are one of them.

 

If you'll notice i've been discussing things quite nicely with another female poster.

SHE hasn't resorted to calling me bitter or putting words in my mouth to toss out straw man arguments.

 

See how it works?

 

YOU are the problem.

Not women in general.

 

So stop trying to hide behind your gender & claiming i'm bashing women when i'm specifically bashing YOU.

Edited April 3, 2012 by phineas

[123321]

It seems like a majority of men on LS infact are telling women how crappy they get as they get older. And it's really a miniority of men that like, ARE ATTRACTED to, women their own age. ANd yes, I think it's an issue of respect, and how you seey our own worth compared to women. I think these type of men think they are better with age. And they pick younger women because they think younger women are better. You can fancy it up anyway you want but it does not distract from that core message. And that is the core message.

 

You fail to see or fail to acknowledge the context, again and again. The context is specifically, dating. Not cooking, not living with in marital bliss, not rock-climbing.

 

It's dating, and specifically the early part of dating.

 

It's foolish to take responses to the question of "why do men ask young women out more than older women" and extrapolate that to life in general, but that is what you are apparently dead set on doing. You then profess to be all angsty about the resulting world view.

 

If you want to see how men view older women they have been married to for 20 years, start that thread, and I predict the responses will be different.

 

 

If you want to see how men view older women they work around, start that thread. If you want to see how men view older women as great cooks, start that thread. If you want to see how men view the importance of being a good cook as a factor in dating, start that thread.

 

 

But it's silly to extrapolate from one very specific subject to life in general like you seem to be doing.

[Mme. Chaucer]

 

It seems like a majority of men on LS infact are telling women how crappy they get as they get older. And it's really a miniority of men that like, ARE ATTRACTED to, women their own age. ANd yes, I think it's an issue of respect, and how you seey our own worth compared to women. I think these type of men think they are better with age. And they pick younger women because they think younger women are better. You can fancy it up anyway you want but it does not distract from that core message. And that is the core message.

 

SO WHAT? Why are you so obsessed with what these guys do or don't think?

 

a general view of men saying how much better younger women are and that it's just what they want because younger women are better for x,y and z reasons. And just as you said, insert any age into that.

 

Once again - SO WHAT???? Can't you just believe that guys who feel that way might be asshats, they might be superficial, living in fantasyland, they might just have very specific preferences, but the bottom line would be that they are NOT the type of men you'd be interested in, nor they in you?

 

I found myself in the dating world in my late 40's. What a mess. SO many men in my age range were only interested in younger women. I DID NOT CARE. I did not try to contact them (OLD), I did not try to pass for younger than I was. I just "nexted" them. I wonder if those guys have found someone right for them? I have.

 

I always get the impression that you feel misunderstood not only if EVERYONE does not agree with you, but also if EVERYONE fails to change to fit your criteria.

 

What a losing proposition. You are going to be single for a long, long time if you can't learn to just pass by the people in dating that don't have comparable values to yours. And if you can't learn to accept some realities of humanity (like the fact that youth is beautiful) without feeling desperately threatened.

[phineas]

Oh and DS:

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/319623-why-do-older-guys-go-much-younger-girl-5.html#post3900937

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/319623-why-do-older-guys-go-much-younger-girl-11.html#post3901705

 

Those are just two examples of you making general statements about men being "bitter" in this thread alone.

 

Apparently all us men are bitter.

 

Oh, wait, I guess you really are bitter.

There you are admitting it.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/313829-whats-up-bitter-women-here-4.html#post3830402

[phineas]

Lol @ this thread still going. Pointless really.

 

I'm having a ball! lulz

[RedRobin]

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[xxoo]

Now I am sure there are many men that love their wives. And I am sure there are many men that are always turning their head for women younger then their own wives. I know which man I want to be with. You are free to be with whatever man you choose.

 

The men who are always turning their heads for women younger than their own wives do not love their wives the way I am describing. That's my point.

 

You judge all men by the actions of men who don't seem to be very in love with their wives. Sure, there are lots of them. Just like lots of women aren't very in love with their husbands. See the marriage forum for repeated threads from men who LOVE their wives of 20+ years, think she is the most beautiful woman in the world, but she won't have sex with him

 

I am so tired of your little lectures XXOO.

 

 

XXOO have been out of the dating scene for a long time. From her posts it seems like she hasn't dated all that much at all. I tend to not take these people's advice seriously.

 

True, I've not dated for a long time. But I have male friends, some currently dating, and they speak openly with me.