Pity sex

[AIDsFan1488]

I don't expect you to listen to me or to believe me.

 

Some women who feel very casual and open about sex can probably "give" it easily as a favor. And I know that women who feel terrible about themselves and sometimes who think of themselves as inhabiting the "slut" role in society might do it too.

 

Speaking for myself, and for other women I know, sex is something we have to really feel like doing in order for it to work for us. Whether it's because of emotional aspects or just because we really desire to have sex with that particular person at that time, it's really not the same as sharing our sandwich with a hungry friend or giving a dollar to the needy person on the street corner.

 

I'm pretty sure you would not take kindly if a woman "bit the bullet" and had sex with you just because she felt sorry for you, and if she really did not want to at all.

 

Bottom line is that I am not against prostitution (though I think it's a mess), so if people want to "get" sex from somebody they might as well make a forthright deal and pay for it.

 

 

Alright, I understand your point of view.

 

My point is that if I was 6'3 and had blonde hair, this woman in question would've slept with me without even asking, even if there was no romantic or emotional connection what so ever.

 

For the "right" guy , every woman is a slut. Every woman has had a 1 night stand at some point in her life these days, what emotional connection is required for that?

 

Point is, women can make emotional and intellectual connections with guys who aren't their type, and don't **** them. Women can **** guys who are their "type", knowing it's impossible they will ever make an emotional or intellectual connection with them. Between choosing one or the other, women always pick the latter has been my experience. Or laughably try to force some depth or connection with guys who are essentially just stereotypical "hot" Bros.

 

That's fine, I'm not whining about it. What I am saying is that pretending women don't sleep with guys that are universally scorned or invisible to women because of their morals is typical women patting themselves on the back for no reason. Women are just as immoral about sex as men are, they just get more out of it in life if they charge a higher status price for admission.

[Mme. Chaucer]

What I am saying is that pretending women don't sleep with guys that are universally scorned or invisible to women because of their morals is typical women patting themselves on the back for no reason.

 

Well, to be fair, there are some people of any gender who really do apply their moral compass to their own sexual behavior.

 

Really, though, there are men and women who bring out the carnal in lots of members of the opposite sex for whatever reason.

[AIDsFan1488]

Your debate style, Udolipixie, just gives me a migraine. I have no patience for explaining the obvious to compulsive hair splitters/Robots like you.

 

In this case those that feel entitled to sex can get it from prostitutes in legal areas. [/Quote]

 

 

With what money? You do know prostitutes in legal areas charge up 3 and 4 hundred dollars an hour for mediocre service? It takes me a whole week of back breaking work to make that much money, only to blow it in one hour. Not to mention the fact that the nearest brothel is literally ...across the country.

 

So your logical solution to our issues is to spend 600 dollars ona round trip ticket, 100 dollars to rent a car, 100 dollars to rent a hotel, drive out to the middle of nowhere in Nevada, then blow 3-4-5 hundred dollars for one hour of sex?

 

Great idea. But whose going to pay for it? If I had the kind of money to do that I wouldn't have trouble attracting women in the first place

[udolipixie]

Your debate style, Udolipixie, just gives me a migraine. I have no patience for explaining the obvious to compulsive hair splitters/Robots like you.

Hair splitting do tell where's the hair splitting in if you feel entitled to sexyou can buy sex in legal areas?

 

With what money? You do know prostitutes in legal areas charge up 3 and 4 hundred dollars an hour for mediocre service?

And...?

 

If he feels that's his entitlement to me the onus is on him to get fulfill that entitlement as it's not a legal matter of human rights.

 

It takes me a whole week of back breaking work to make that much money, only to blow it in one hour. Not to mention the fact that the nearest brothel is literally ...across the country.[/quote[

Weeks of work or not he'll still get what he felt entitled to - sex.

 

So your logical solution to our issues is to spend 600 dollars ona round trip ticket, 100 dollars to rent a car, 100 dollars to rent a hotel, drive out to the middle of nowhere in Nevada, then blow 3-4-5 hundred dollars for one hour of sex?

My logical solution is if you feel entitled to sex you can buy it.

 

Reading comprehension of keywords.

 

Great idea. But whose going to pay for it? If I had the kind of money to do that I wouldn't have trouble attracting women in the first place

He'll pay for it. Why would anyone else pay for it?

 

He's the one who wants it and feels entitled to it and it's not a legal matter concerning rights.

 

If he wants someone else to pay for it or help pay for it perhaps it's best suited to start an organization dealing with that.

[udolipixie]

Debate style? No debating just stating my opinions.

 

As for Robot.

 

I do question if you're a troll as I've seen similar statements by self identified misogynists.

 

My point is that if I was 6'3 and had blonde hair, this woman in question would've slept with me without even asking, even if there was no romantic or emotional connection what so ever.

Most likely because she would have felt a sexual connection.

 

For the "right" guy , every woman is a slut. Every woman has had a 1 night stand at some point in her life these days, what emotional connection is required for that?

An emotional connection is not required for many women's cases nor did I get the impression she stated that it needed to be.

 

I got a that that it's either emotional or she wants to have sex with the guy because she's attracted aka feel horny/attracted to a guy then you feel like having sex with him.

 

I think you missed: "sex is something we have to really feel like doing in order for it to work for us. Whether it's because of emotional aspects or just because we really desire to have sex with that particular person at that time,"

 

Women are just as immoral about sex as men are, they just get more out of it in life if they charge a higher status price for admission.

Difference to me is that it seems more common in men than women to have a "you should have sex with me because I want it"/"it shows compassion for you to have sex with me because I want".

[AIDsFan1488]

You are a hair splitter because suggesting I blow 1-2 thousand dollars to fly somewhere and have sex as a solution to my problem is absurd for me, a working man and any logical person with a fully functional non-autistic brain will see this. That is all I will say I cannot seriously debate with morons who think purely in terms of rule books (rule books that someone with an ageda wrote) like "human rights" that are abstract and can be defined as one sees fit.

 

In Europe for example, the National healthcare services pay for prostitutes so that disabled young men can go to them. Over there, it's considered a 'human right'. I'm not disabled so I would still fall through the cracks, but it's still really progressive. I doubt you would support that, the tax payer paying for young men to have sex? The very thought of someone whose disabled having sex probably turns your stomach, paying taxes that could go to new makeup or a lease on a new BMW would probably aggravate a person like you even more .

 

But again, I'm not going to entertain your nonesense anymore. Trying to exchange ideas with you is a hassle, since you don't really give any viable solutions.

 

This is how you sound when you are arguing:

 

Hey Udolipixie, I know you're rich but if you're poor then buy a lottery ticket and get rich! Hey udolipixie I know you lost your eye sight when you were born so why don't you become a scientist and find a cure for blindness! Hey udolipixie I know you're homeless, so why don't you go to home depot and build yourself a house?! You're not entitled to anything. As long as children and animals aren't hurt in the process, and "human rights" and "Racism" aren't involved, anything that happens to you is your own fault. Especially if you're white and male (AKA the enemy my college professor identified)

Edited March 30, 2012 by AIDsFan1488

[Dust]

You're fricken hilarious there is no way you would have trouble getting a girl if you just tried the real way. You know the way where yes you try to have sex and date... but no you don't get all stressed out and angry and argue with the girls who turned you down. If you used your humor and anger in a way where it wasn't directed at the women you're going after you'd have no problem getting girls.

 

I wish just for once I'd live in the same area as all these guys who have trouble with women. You're on the list of people invited to come out to where I am in FL on a vacation I'm sure you can't afford and just chill we'd get girls for you very easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel. You should have been here during spring break. litteraly though all year long just gettng sex from an attractive young girl isn't that hard if thats all you're after.

 

I think you are after a gf of course and you do have some very high standards.. not necesarily high in the general sense but high like you want very specific rare things instead of having an open mind.

[AIDsFan1488]

You're fricken hilarious there is no way you would have trouble getting a girl if you just tried the real way. You know the way where yes you try to have sex and date... but no you don't get all stressed out and angry and argue with the girls who turned you down. If you used your humor and anger in a way where it wasn't directed at the women you're going after you'd have no problem getting girls.

 

I wish just for once I'd live in the same area as all these guys who have trouble with women. You're on the list of people invited to come out to where I am in FL on a vacation I'm sure you can't afford and just chill we'd get girls for you very easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel. You should have been here during spring break. litteraly though all year long just gettng sex from an attractive young girl isn't that hard if thats all you're after.

 

I think you are after a gf of course and you do have some very high standards.. not necesarily high in the general sense but high like you want very specific rare things instead of having an open mind.

 

 

Man I'm not as picky as you'd think. I've pretty much learned that looking for my mental and logical equal when considering women is an exercise in futility. Right now I'm just looking for a girl to hang out with and have fun.

I've been going out regularly and chatting up the girls yet finding nothing but flakes and prick teasers. It's not an issue of not trying ot confidence. I'm keeping at it and Im going to go out tonight to hit on women and get wasted.

[udolipixie]

It's not hair splitting it's a possible solution you dislike.

 

A working person and any logical person would note reading comprehension and the word "can".

 

As well as noting whether a guy find it absurd, too difficult, or far too much of an investment it doing said things would still get him- sex.

 

I'm thinking purely in legal terms of solutions you feel entitled to sex so you get it. Legal ways of getting it:

have sex with a woman who wants to have sex with you

pay a woman to have sex with you

 

If you want to talk about illegal solutions that would be rape or statutory rape...are you advocating that?

 

Human rights is an abstract subjective definition hence why I stated:

If he wants someone else to pay for it or help pay for it perhaps it's best suited to start an organization dealing with that.

 

Does Europe national healthcare services also pay for prostitutes so that disabled young women can go to them?

 

If not it seems quite similar to the nursing homes that had elderly patient that couldn't masturbate so they paid prostitutes to perform oral sex on the elderly males. Nothing for the elderly females as they weren't even considered nope it was just elderly males. Seems as a woman's own attraction or whether she wants sex is irrelevant as she's a hole not a human being. So her and sex aren't thought about unless thinking about how to service men.

 

The very thought of someone whose disabled having sex probably turns your stomach, paying taxes that could go to new makeup or a lease on a new BMW would probably aggravate a person like you even more .

Quite a lot of ASSumptions there.

Don't wear makeup ever since I got out of modeling/pageants.

I don't lease I own.

 

It's not nonsense it's a possible solution that you don't like.

 

So why no answer on what convincing arguments did you give to the gal who didn't want to have sex with you why she should?

[Dust]

Man I'm not as picky as you'd think. I've pretty much learned that looking for my mental and logical equal when considering women is an exercise in futility. Right now I'm just looking for a girl to hang out with and have fun.

I've been going out regularly and chatting up the girls yet finding nothing but flakes and prick teasers. It's not an issue of not trying ot confidence. I'm keeping at it and Im going to go out tonight to hit on women and get wasted.

 

Bars are really hard places to meet women. The best place to meet women are probably through friends at dinner parties or get togathers. Obviously you may not have anything like that going on social circles in this day and age tend to suc... your next best bet is meeting women in central park or what ever durring the day. Or going to a non bar environment like a comedy club or on the street itself.

 

Have fun in the bar though. Seriously if you want to be angry at women atleast enjoy it when you offend them with this crap... I mean whats the point if you're just going get upset. Also realize that a girl can be calling you a creep loser but also wanting you. Make moves. Go after hot girls.

[Cypress25]

So then why do women hate the concept of "pity sex" by and large?

 

Because it would make them feel terrible. Despite what you believe about all women being sluts, most women actually do have standards. Expecting them to have pity sex with you is expecting them to sacrifice their dignity and self-respect just to give you a few minutes of pleasure. Have you thought about how that would make the woman feel? She would most likely feel disgusted and violated, and she'd probably cry herself to sleep over it.

 

For most women, sex is a big deal and it has an emotional impact on them. The vast majority of women are not nearly as casual about sex as you think. Even for the women who have had one-night stands, they did it because they were attracted to the guy, so the sex was enjoyable for them. Having sex with someone you're not even attracted to would be horribly uncomfortable and degrading. Why should anyone be willing to make themselves feel that way?

 

Basically, your whole premise is that the woman's feelings don't matter, and she should be willing to give you whatever you want, even if it makes her feel terrible. Listen, dude. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both people. It's not just for your pleasure; her pleasure matters too. You may not like the guys that a woman chooses to have sex with, but obviously she likes them, and it has nothing to do with you. Nobody owes you anything.

[dasein]

The shopkeeper will curse you, say all sorts of disparaging, even unfounded things about you, as will the woman.

 

"How dare you seek to merely have what I make my livelihood selling richly every day!"

 

Yikes. What a profoundly ignorant and revolting thing to say.

 

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[udolipixie]

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Awh it seems you've done some of your most used words "dishonest" and "distort".

 

Asking a woman to give sex away is the same as asking a shopkeeper to give away their stock in trade. The shopkeeper will curse you, say all sorts of disparaging, even unfounded things about you, as will the woman.

 

"How dare you seek to merely have what I make my livelihood selling richly every day!"

 

Yikes. What a profoundly ignorant and revolting thing to say.

[Feelin Frisky]

From where I'm from they call it a "mercy hump". Can't say I've ever gotten one. SD, are you sure you're known to be in the market. I can think back and realize that if I really reached out that someone would have set me up or thrown me some. It's just a question of how low you're willing to prostrate your prostate.

[AIDsFan1488]

It's not hair splitting it's a possible solution you dislike.

 

A working person and any logical person would note reading comprehension and the word "can".

 

As well as noting whether a guy find it absurd, too difficult, or far too much of an investment it doing said things would still get him- sex.

 

I'm thinking purely in legal terms of solutions you feel entitled to sex so you get it. Legal ways of getting it:

have sex with a woman who wants to have sex with you

pay a woman to have sex with you

 

If you want to talk about illegal solutions that would be rape or statutory rape...are you advocating that?[/Quote]

 

And that is exactly the problem with the United States justice system. Precedents do not = common sense, common sense = common sense.

 

If I were to get sex using your brilliant plan, I would not have money for food, shelter or bills this month. In other words, legally I can do it, but common sense would dictate I cannot, and this is exactly why responding to your posts is obnoxious.

 

Technically a person has no right to hate their job they depend for their livelihood, because he can technically get a better job. But if technicalities were practicalities then nobody in the world would work at McDonalds, in a mind numbing office profession, or in a sweatshop, we'd all be video game testers and professional skateboarders! In other words, in the big casino of capitalism and liberalism life there are indeed some winners, but also a lot of losers. The world can't function if practically anyone can win.

 

 

Does Europe national healthcare services also pay for prostitutes so that disabled young women can go to them?

 

If not it seems quite similar to the nursing homes that had elderly patient that couldn't masturbate so they paid prostitutes to perform oral sex on the elderly males. Nothing for the elderly females as they weren't even considered nope it was just elderly males. Seems as a woman's own attraction or whether she wants sex is irrelevant as she's a hole not a human being. So her and sex aren't thought about unless thinking about how to service men.[/Quote]

 

I have yet to hear about anything like that, but I don't think there is as much demand by women for it. Even disabled women have no problem finding people to sleep with them (*Gasp* sometimes they have male friends that will screw them out of pity), or even relationships.

 

I remember my cousin who worked at a summer camp for older teens with physical disabilities, muscular problems, in wheelchairs, etc. When it came time for people to go home, all the boys went home alone, with their parents, or together, while a large portion of the girls got picked up by their boyfriends in their car.

 

I've seen some really cute girls in wheelchairs before, who I would date. Unfortunately, they all have boyfriends already! LOL. Imagine a man in a wheelchair getting much female attention (unless he's a bazillionaire), I've never seen it and never will.

 

 

So why no answer on what convincing arguments did you give to the gal who didn't want to have sex with you why she should? [/Quote]

 

I explained to her all the times we were together and there was trouble. How I saved her from a drunk that was trying to grope her, how I saved her from going to jail by parle'ing with the cops, how someone stole her stuff and I got it back, how I've risked getting shot or stabbed by criminals on more than one occasion when i walked her home at night (she lives in a really bad neighborhood).

 

Point is, I've done a lot of things that put aside my ego, my own safety, my own well-being, just to protect her and make her feel good. And yet, she can't do one thing, sleep with me, for the same reason. Instead she sleeps with guys who wouldn't do anything I've done for her, since they're all pretty boys or rich kids who've always lived a sheltered life. It shows you the wide distance between the mentality of men and women, women don't give 2 ****s what you do for them if you dont meet their ****ing height or hair color or whatever other stupid requirement they have.

[dasein]

It's a matter of mainly her perspective and semantics as to whether the act is a negative or positive one as she'll be the one doing it.

 

Wrong, they will both be "doing it."

 

Why don't more women view sex other than as a medium of exchange? Why do so many women conceive of sex as something a man 'gets' from a woman instead of the consensual, mutual, pleasant activity that it is?

 

More like full of unwanted truths.

 

Characterizing men, other than a tiny minority of sociopathic men, as viewing women as mere "holes" is a sure sign of thorough indoctrination. Been reading a bit too much Dworkin?

[dasein]

Awh it seems you've done some of your most used words "dishonest" and "distort".

 

That I only quoted the last sentence of my post doesn't change my point being proven by Chaucer at all. Fail.

[Ross MwcFan]

So encouraging guys to have no self respect and to have no respect for women and to go use women who are prostitutes would be more Christianlike in your opinion? You obviously have a very different idea of what Christian behavior should be than I do. And guys who would use women in that way are pathetic. I make no apologies for that statement. Guys who are desparately seeking real female companionship will get compassion and empathy from me. Guys who use women and enable their destructive lifestyle are not deserving of empathy.

 

That's just your opinion, not a fact.

[AIDsFan1488]

Because it would make them feel terrible. Despite what you believe about all women being sluts, most women actually do have standards. Expecting them to have pity sex with you is expecting them to sacrifice their dignity and self-respect just to give you a few minutes of pleasure. Have you thought about how that would make the woman feel? She would most likely feel disgusted and violated, and she'd probably cry herself to sleep over it.

 

For most women, sex is a big deal and it has an emotional impact on them. The vast majority of women are not nearly as casual about sex as you think. Even for the women who have had one-night stands, they did it because they were attracted to the guy, so the sex was enjoyable for them. Having sex with someone you're not even attracted to would be horribly uncomfortable and degrading. Why should anyone be willing to make themselves feel that way?

 

Basically, your whole premise is that the woman's feelings don't matter, and she should be willing to give you whatever you want, even if it makes her feel terrible. Listen, dude. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both people. It's not just for your pleasure; her pleasure matters too. You may not like the guys that a woman chooses to have sex with, but obviously she likes them, and it has nothing to do with you. Nobody owes you anything.

 

 

Well the girl I asked for help with, is a girl I've known for years.

 

She has had sex with men who would **** her then kick her out of her house and not talk to her for weeks on end, sometimes months.

 

But then she would cry herself to sleep for making love to someone who has always cared deeply about her, helped her and always been there like me?

 

If that's true, then maybe women are really ****ing stupid and deserve to be treated like the lowest common denominator that they are. I can't pity the emotions of the willfully retarded.

[Ross MwcFan]

Women will not go to bed with a guy they don't feel secure around and who they aren't attracted to. Rich and good-looking aren't always the criteria.

 

There is a guy who lives in the garage of a house down the street from me. It's a garage. Not an apartment or a room in the house. As I was running by, I saw a cute girl there with him. He's obviously no doctor, and isn't especially good looking.

 

I for damn sure am not going to bed with any woman who wanders by and asks me, especially if I'm not attracted to her. I wouldn't care if she hasn't gotten any in a while and it would make her day. I would think she's lost her mind.

 

Do you mean as in feeling like the guy cannot protect them? Or that they feel that the guy is a threat?

[Mme. Chaucer]

That I only quoted the last sentence of my post doesn't change my point being proven by Chaucer at all. Fail.

 

What are you blathering about now?

[udolipixie]

If I were to get sex using your brilliant plan, I would not have money for food, shelter or bills this month. In other words, legally I can do it, but common sense would dictate I cannot, and this is exactly why responding to your posts is obnoxious.

To me you not having enough money to survive depends on X factors:

your salary

whether you can get a raise in your current job

whether you get another job

your qualities

what prostitutes to go to

what you want prostitutes to do to you

 

I know a guy who makes $60,000 a year and he manages to travel once a month to Thailand for sex and he has money for food, shelter, and bills every month.

 

Common sense wise you can do it you would just need to do more in order to do so.

 

If you want to talk illegal matters there's illegal prostitution and that tends to be quite cheap.

 

Whether there is much demand or not is up to question. What is not up to question is that many of those nursing homes did not even consider whether their female patients had said demand. That's actually how an itty bitty old woman was complaining to her granddaughter. Said granddaughter rarely visited and thought the woman was senile.

 

I do enjoy the typical dismissal that women can get sex any time no matter their looks, disability, disadvantage etc. So typical it seems many guys don't even bother with reading comprehension nope sex & a gal not getting any is impossible.

 

Do tell how were these disabled women in the nursing home who couldn't masturbate who lived in an elderly home where the other gender also couldn't masturbate would be getting any sex?

Do tell does guys having preferences, many guys preferring women 10-20 years younger, many guys not even seeing women who look their age as sexually usable, many guys refusing to have sex with a gal they deem unattractive, many guys refusing to have sex with a gal who is at least average factor into your typical dismissal?

 

I remember my cousin who worked at a summer camp for older teens with physical disabilities, muscular problems, in wheelchairs, etc. When it came time for people to go home, all the boys went home alone, with their parents, or together, while a large portion of the girls got picked up by their boyfriends in their car.

Does your cousin know whether all these boys didn't have gfs?

 

They could just have crapola gfs, busy gs, gfs who were planning a welcome home party.

 

I've seen some really cute girls in wheelchairs before, who I would date. Unfortunately, they all have boyfriends already! LOL. Imagine a man in a wheelchair getting much female attention (unless he's a bazillionaire), I've never seen it and never will.

I don't have to imagine I know 7 none of them would be described as rich or middle class.

 

 

I explained to her all the times we were together and there was trouble. How I saved her from a drunk that was trying to grope her, how I saved her from going to jail by parle'ing with the cops, how someone stole her stuff and I got it back, how I've risked getting shot or stabbed by criminals on more than one occasion when i walked her home at night (she lives in a really bad neighborhood).

So essentially you explained to her all those nice things you did she thought you did out of the kindness of your heart as her friend was most likely done because you wanted to have sex with her and wanted leverage later on?

 

If you want to pay for sex in kindness to a woman who doesn't desire you or is attracted to you why not trying paying for sex in money with a prostitute. Illegal as you don't seem to like discussing legal matters plus it tends to be cheap.

 

Point is, I've done a lot of things that put aside my ego, my own safety, my own well-being, just to protect her and make her feel good.

Seems more like just to have a chance of her making you feel good later on.

 

And yet, she can't do one thing, sleep with me, for the same reason.

Does she do other things for you?

 

Instead she sleeps with guys who wouldn't do anything I've done for her, since they're all pretty boys or rich kids who've always lived a sheltered life.

Understandable to me that she'd sleep with men

 

It shows you the wide distance between the mentality of men and women,

Yep your post suggests that anything nice a guy does for a woman he'll later use as leverage to say she should or owes him sex.

 

Yep your post suggests that anything a guy who is your friend does is later leverage for you should or owe me sex.

 

women don't give 2 ****s what you do for them if you dont meet their ****ing height or hair color or whatever other stupid requirement they have.

Seems more like women don't give 2 ****s about having sex with you if you don't meet their standards.

[Cypress25]

She has had sex with men who would **** her then kick her out of her house and not talk to her for weeks on end, sometimes months.

 

But then she would cry herself to sleep for making love to someone who has always cared deeply about her, helped her and always been there like me?

 

It doesn't sound like you care deeply about her. It sounds like you feel entitled to use her in the worst way. And it wouldn't be "making love" for her. It would be an unpleasant and degrading experience for her, because she doesn't feel that way about you. You seem to think she should just put her own feelings aside (because of course, her feelings don't matter, only your feelings matter), but that's damn near impossible to do.

 

Perhaps she has a history of choosing bad guys, but what you fail to recognize is that those guys treated her badly after they had sex. They probably put on a convincing performance before they had sex. Which means she thought they were decent guys when she made the decision to have sex with them. And she was obviously attracted to them. At the time, she felt good about her decision to have sex, even if she regretted it later.

 

In your case, however, she already knows that she's not attracted to you and she feels no desire to have sex with you, which means she already knows that she won't enjoy the sex and it would make her feel dirty and used. So why the hell would she do it? Because you've done so much for her and you deserve it? I got news for you: You don't deserve it. You are demanding too high a price in exchange for the things you've done for her. Maybe she should do something nice for you, to repay you for all the times you've helped her. But having pity sex with you? That's asking too much.

 

If that's true, then maybe women are really ****ing stupid and deserve to be treated like the lowest common denominator that they are. I can't pity the emotions of the willfully retarded.

 

Ah, spoken like a true gentleman who sincerely cares about this lady and is always there for her. Who are you kidding? You don't care about her, you don't respect her, you don't even like her. You only do things for her so you can feel justified in demanding sex as payback. Why don't you try this: Stop doing things for her. Stop helping her. Then maybe you won't feel like she owes you her soul.

[dasein]

What are you blathering about now?

 

It's "happy hour" in lots of areas of the world, why so foul tempered? Having a nice Dos Equis myself.

[udolipixie]

Well the girl I asked for help with, is a girl I've known for years.

 

She has had sex with men who would **** her then kick her out of her house and not talk to her for weeks on end, sometimes months.

 

But then she would cry herself to sleep for making love to someone who has always cared deeply about her, helped her and always been there like me?

 

Hmm... doesn't seem to mesh to me with this:

I recently asked a woman I am close to but had unfortunately friend zoned me to have sex with me, and actually made a convincing argument.

 

She said no and proudly exalted that sex isn't a product or something you give people because they haven't gotten any in a while and are in desperate need of female intimacy. Just getting my rocks off once would do wonders for me and my confidence, but no dice, I told her off afterwards considering the type of guy she does **** .