swag42 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Hey, was just curious to see if anyone out there has ever had an opiate problem and went on suboxone to get off them and then gets hooked on the darn suboxone? It's trading one addicting for another. The main reason I got on the suboxone was I couldn't handle the withdrawl from the pills. Well NOW I come to find out that I have to do the whole withdrawl thing anyway and that it can last anywhere up to a MONTH?? WTF? Please Please if anyone knows or who has been down this road....or can offer and advice or alternatives let me know! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 What medication were you trying to kick? I had a jackass doctor prescribe Suboxone to help with with a Xanax addition. One has nothing to do with the other and he created two addictions. I had to kick both. I know a lot about it. Anything you want to know, ask me. Suboxone gets harder to kick the longer you take it and is very insidious. It gave me intense lucid dreams--some grotesque and it gave me anorgasmia in which I could be hard and excited for hours and just not bust a dang nut to save my life. Suboxone should only be used as an opiate addiction treatment. It is better than the previous trement which was "methadone" because it contains the counteracting agent which prohibits people from abusing it. I forget what it's called--like narcane. But I don't believe in using it long term and a lot of doctors who have no expertise in addictions, like the jerk back in NY who treated me, are misprescribing it. IMO like methadone it should be given four about 5 days while the opiates withdraw from your system so that you don't develop a new dependency on the Suboxone. Link to post Share on other sites
Author swag42 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 I couldn't have said it better...but at the time I had no idea and trusted this damn doctor knew what he was doing! Now it's been almost two years and I was down to a fourth of a strip ( i take the strips not pills) and had withdrawls so bad I chickened out because I couldn't be sick and go to work. This sucks now I'm back up to a whole strip a day (8 / 2mg) Is there anything to help with the withdrawls? What I was actually thinking of doing (stop me if this sounds crazy) but I have some perks that was left over from my shoulder surgery. I was going to take them til i knew the subs were out of my system for (what 3 days they say?) and then only take pieces of subs til i'm over that withdrawl and be done with it? Does that sound crazy or what? any other ideas? Also Anyone know about this shot their coming out with> Vitrol? vitrola? its supposedly to replace suboxone and you are suppose to only get it once a month? Link to post Share on other sites
Lucy1722 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Go to soberrecovery.org and look in their forum section. Been on suboxone and very familiar. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I couldn't have said it better...but at the time I had no idea and trusted this damn doctor knew what he was doing! Now it's been almost two years and I was down to a fourth of a strip ( i take the strips not pills) and had withdrawls so bad I chickened out because I couldn't be sick and go to work. This sucks now I'm back up to a whole strip a day (8 / 2mg) Is there anything to help with the withdrawls? What I was actually thinking of doing (stop me if this sounds crazy) but I have some perks that was left over from my shoulder surgery. I was going to take them til i knew the subs were out of my system for (what 3 days they say?) and then only take pieces of subs til i'm over that withdrawl and be done with it? Does that sound crazy or what? any other ideas? Also Anyone know about this shot their coming out with> Vitrol? vitrola? its supposedly to replace suboxone and you are suppose to only get it once a month? That won't work (the percocets I mean the way you said. They'll help but consider what else I have to say on this). Suboxone is an insidious pain in the ass to get off of--even if you take 1mg in the am and 1 mg pm (in which case 1 strip lasts 4 days). Been there. If you can get down to that then stay at that level for a while, then half it again. Do that for a week, then stop. But you'll feel lousy for a week and a half and get lousy sleep. It just doesn't want to let you go. A percocet can give you some relief but I think you really have to experience the withdrawal pattern to understand your particular body and its toxicity level. For instance you may not even get loose stools until day 5 and the loose stool thing is THE MIDDLE of the whole drama. Thus if you take percocet shortly after you stop suboxone, you may run out before the real annoying twitches come. I looked up what people had to say on the drugs forum and they say by day 12 they are starting to function. But sleeplessness can linger for weeks. It's all worth it though. Suboxone is an evil trap that is probably keeping you back in some insidious ways. Keep toughing it out and post here how it's going. Best of luck. Two weeks in a life time is not too long to suffer with to be free of that. Link to post Share on other sites
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