xxoo Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Why do guys here think that women will be shocked...SHOCKED!!!...to find out that men they know probably want to have sex with them? We know that. We've accepted it and long moved past it. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 LOL! You've seen enough of my posts to know that I'm never the instigator when it comes to flirting. I'll just assume that you are talking to "men" Has never happened to me. No girl I have ever known has introduced me to or even talked about a friend I could date, get to know etc. Maybe because they all think you staring at their chest while claiming you TOTALLY just want to be friends was a little dishonest and socially awkward. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Why do guys here think that women will be shocked...SHOCKED!!!...to find out that men they know probably want to have sex with them? We know that. We've accepted it and long moved past it. This is a lead on from the flirting threads, whereby guys who don't get any female attention bemoan the fact that women seem to see them as completely neuter, then get shocked when they express an interest. Sensitivity on the guys part IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Maybe because they all think you staring at their chest while claiming you TOTALLY just want to be friends was a little dishonest and socially awkward. Too much assumption in that post there, how do you know Somedude stares at the chest or etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Why do guys here think that women will be shocked...SHOCKED!!!...to find out that men they know probably want to have sex with them? We know that. We've accepted it and long moved past it. Because it keeps happening. Too much assumption in that post there, how do you know Somedude stares at the chest or etc? Of course Somedude stares at the chest. Have you not seen his posts? That guy loves boobs. But he never claims that he just wants to be friends. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 This is a lead on from the flirting threads, whereby guys who don't get any female attention bemoan the fact that women seem to see them as completely neuter, then get shocked when they express an interest. Sensitivity on the guys part IMO. This is basically the point as I see it. Which then leads to the idea that it's "wrong" to express any interest romantically/sexually in a woman. Which is where I am now. It does seem wrong to express interest. They're not sexual beings. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Too much assumption in that post there, how do you know Somedude stares at the chest or etc? Some women seem very naive and don't understand that guys want to haves sex with them. That guy staring at your chest, he's not trying to determine what fabric your blouse is made out of. *Points* That's why. He's also admitting in the past that he's not very smooth at flirting. "Not very smooth at flirting" usually translates into socially awkward, as in "stares at your chest while talking to you and doesn't realize you notice." Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 This is basically the point as I see it. Which then leads to the idea that it's "wrong" to express any interest romantically/sexually in a woman. Which is where I am now. It does seem wrong to express interest. They're not sexual beings. No, it's not! The point is that it is OKAY to show sexual interest. She'll let you know if she has a bf, or isn't interested. It's okay! The point is that some guys get too worked up about flirting, and finding out later that it wasn't leading to a date, or a relationship. Most flirting doesn't end up in a date or a relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 This is basically the point as I see it. Which then leads to the idea that it's "wrong" to express any interest romantically/sexually in a woman. Which is where I am now. It does seem wrong to express interest. They're not sexual beings. Or how bout "they ARE sexual being, just not with every guy that wants to bone them"? You are welcome to express INTEREST (read: not sexual, not early on) in a girl so long as you do it in a friendly, socially appropriate way. AKA, not awkward or overtly sexual. Which is why you flirt... to gain the experience of what behaviors you are subconsciously doing that are creepy and too nonverbally forward. Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 This is basically the point as I see it. Which then leads to the idea that it's "wrong" to express any interest romantically/sexually in a woman. Which is where I am now. It does seem wrong to express interest. They're not sexual beings. That's not the right way to do it. The whole point of my announcement, is if that should not be surprised or upset that a guy is expressing interest in her. We're men, it's what we do. Of course there are situations where it socially unacceptable but I'm not talking about them. Link to post Share on other sites
ThatDudeXO Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The idea and delivery of this topic makes zZzZzZzZzZz.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 This is basically the point as I see it. Which then leads to the idea that it's "wrong" to express any interest romantically/sexually in a woman. Which is where I am now. It does seem wrong to express interest. They're not sexual beings. It's not "wrong" to express interest. Don't listen to anyone who says that ****. What do they expect you to do, become completely neuter? All you need to do is take control of your sexuality and own it. Don't be ashamed of it, it's a natural part of you. Express it wherever it's appropriate, when you figure that out, it's all good. Women certainly are sexual beings, as much or even more than we are. Our sexuality just works differently (it even varies greatly between individuals of each gender). That's all. Don't let these threads discourage you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Because it keeps happening. Again, for both men and women, most flirting doesn't lead to a date or a relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 No, it's not! The point is that it is OKAY to show sexual interest. She'll let you know if she has a bf, or isn't interested. It's okay! The point is that some guys get too worked up about flirting, and finding out later that it wasn't leading to a date, or a relationship. Most flirting doesn't end up in a date or a relationship. Which is the basis of the whole flirting thread i.e. stop taking it too seriously. Flirting is almost a seperate entity within the realm of dating. People who have no attraction to each other will flirt like it's nobody's business, trust me. At varying levels too. Just look at it that way. When you are interested in a girl, just get the low-down on reciprocation and leave it at that. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Or how bout "they ARE sexual being, just not with every guy that wants to bone them"? You are welcome to express INTEREST (read: not sexual, not early on) in a girl so long as you do it in a friendly, socially appropriate way. AKA, not awkward or overtly sexual. Which is why you flirt... to gain the experience of what behaviors you are subconsciously doing that are creepy and too nonverbally forward. If they're not interested in me, then does it really matter if they're sexual beings or not? Either way it's the same to me. The problem as I see it is that with certain men women are willing to flirt and be friendly. But once that crosses over into genuine interest (not even sexual interest just "I like you and would like to ask you out" interest), the guy is a total creeper, skeezball, whatever. And he's to be completely avoided. Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Again, for both men and women, most flirting doesn't lead to a date or a relationship. I know that. But it is almost a requirement to one. Flirting is almost like putting the bait on the hook. It doesn't mean that the fish will actually bite. Meh, it's the best I can come up with now. No, it's not! The point is that it is OKAY to show sexual interest. She'll let you know if she has a bf, or isn't interested. It's okay! I completely agree with you. The point is that some guys get too worked up about flirting, and finding out later that it wasn't leading to a date, or a relationship. That's because some guys rarely get flirted with so when it does happen, they are likely to place too much meaning on it. Link to post Share on other sites
marinelife3 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Who gets surprised or upset? It's nice to feel wanted. What does suck is when a guy knows that you're not going to hook up with him and feels bitter about it so he hits on you in a really smarmy, aggressive way as a form of revenge. I'm not saying you're that guy, I'm saying don't become that guy! Keep asking girls to dinner and one will say yes eventually. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 That's because some guys rarely get flirted with so when it does happen, they are likely to place too much meaning on it. Exactly. Just like some guys rarely get dates so if a girl agrees to go out with you it's like winning the lottery. If a girl agrees to go out twice it's like winning the Mega Millions. How much attention/dates do people think most guys get? Link to post Share on other sites
Author somedude81 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Who gets surprised or upset? It's nice to feel wanted. What does suck is when a guy knows that you're not going to hook up with him and feels bitter about it so he hits on you in a really smarmy, aggressive way as a form of revenge. I'm not saying you're that guy, I'm saying don't become that guy! Keep asking girls to dinner and one will say yes eventually. Ew, that is creepy. I could never do something like that. I have no ill will to her, though I'll be talking to her less frequently. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 If they're not interested in me, then does it really matter if they're sexual beings or not? Either way it's the same to me. The problem as I see it is that with certain men women are willing to flirt and be friendly. But once that crosses over into genuine interest (not even sexual interest just "I like you and would like to ask you out" interest), the guy is a total creeper, skeezball, whatever. And he's to be completely avoided. You need to ignore that completely. If she isn't interested then move on, but don't move on while assuming she thinks you're a creep or a sleazy guy, that's just going to mess up your head. Don't overthink it, that's something we need to stop doing collectively. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 That's because some guys rarely get flirted with so when it does happen, they are likely to place too much meaning on it. I bet you'd get flirted with a lot more if you initiated flirting. A lot of average men flirt all the damn time! It's often called "charming" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Exactly. Just like some guys rarely get dates so if a girl agrees to go out with you it's like winning the lottery. If a girl agrees to go out twice it's like winning the Mega Millions. How much attention/dates do people think most guys get? That's that scarcity mentality. I remember the first time I came across PUA. It was a book called "Inner Game Primer: Stop Being Such A F**king P*ssy". It talked about Scarcity mentality and abundance mentality. Basically, you have scarcity mentality. I think entrepreneurship will be good for you, you will learn so much, especially if you're selling, it will help you with women. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 V: You're getting all kinds of bent out of shape for nothing. Calm down. SD's OP was aimed at clueing in the naive women who think men don't want to have sex with them, or who think they aren't teasing men with their flirtatious behavior. Nothing more. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 V: You're getting all kinds of bent out of shape for nothing. Calm down. SD's OP was aimed at clueing in the naive women who think men don't want to have sex with them, or who think they aren't teasing men with their flirtatious behavior. Nothing more. I get bent out of shape because it's yet another thread on how men want to have sex with hot women. We already have the "Average" thread where we're picking apart random girls' photos. How many freaking threads do we need confirming that, yep, men like hot girls? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I get bent out of shape because it's yet another thread on how men want to have sex with hot women. We already have the "Average" thread where we're picking apart random girls' photos. How many freaking threads do we need confirming that, yep, men like hot girls? ARGH!! (Yes, I'm actually screaming at my brothers laptop monitor ) Hot is entirely subjective!!! You know I'm willing to bet money that one day you will run into a guy who thinks you're all kinds of hot Link to post Share on other sites
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