What is your ideal physical type? (with pics)

[Els]

Also, shes clearly older than the girls the troll posted.

 

Either way I think its wrong to present adults as children. It cultivates and promotes harmful behavior.

 

I asked you how old you think she is, not whether you think she looks older.

 

So... do you think Catwoman is promoting bestiality? She's one sexy cat.

[tman666]

That's pretty hard to achieve. Even with an insane diet and weight lifting regimen one might still not be able to pull that off. Plus that requires supplements some of those being drugs/hormones.

 

BS. Such a physique can be achieved fairly easily through hard training and proper nutrition. There is nothing "insane" about the physique she posted. Don't assume that everyone bigger than you or with a better physique is on gear.

[kaylan]

I asked you how old you think she is, not whether you think she looks older.

 

So... do you think Catwoman is promoting bestiality? She's one sexy cat.

Shes not a 12 yr old child. I know that much. Shes a teenager at the least and thats different from the pedo crap of the troll.

[Els]

Im not only talking about people who look like children. Im saying that actual children should not be viewed this way, and that adults shouldnt be presented as such because it creates an environment where ACTUAL children are preyed upon.

 

Is that so hard to understand? That ENTIRELY different from homosexuality. Dont compare the two. Just stop now. Its insulting to the LGBT community and its supporters when people like you compare how homosexuality is viewed and how pedophilia is viewed.

 

You only think so because you grew up in a society that is already accepting of homosexuality, but not in one that is accepting of non-PC kinks.

 

The fact remains that both are negatively judgemental towards sexual acts between two legal, consensual adults. Lolita is not my thing, neither is homosexuality, but I see no difference in a man getting turned on by another man, or a man getting turned on by a woman dressed like a girl.

 

I see everything wrong with a man getting turned on by a girl who is actually a girl, of course.

[Els]

Shes not a 12 yr old child. I know that much. Shes a teenager at the least and thats different from the pedo crap of the troll.

 

Yeah... she's 27.

 

What makes you think you're qualified to judge ages, then? You said that those girls are 'clearly not 18'. Well, I know people IRL who are actually 18 and look as young as that. For obvious reasons, especially with the troll not banned yet, I'm not going to post their pictures, but the point is that you don't know.

[ThaWholigan]

Trust me to pick the time to post my ideal in the middle of a discussion about paedophilia .

[kaylan]

Yeah... she's 27.

 

What makes you think you're qualified to judge ages, then? You said that those girls are 'clearly not 18'. Well, I know people IRL who are actually 18 and look as young as that. For obvious reasons, especially with the troll not banned yet, I'm not going to post their pictures, but the point is that you don't know.

Qualified to judge ages? Wow....excuse me...I didnt know some women out there actually defend dudes getting off on simulated children. The point is that adults shouldnt be getting off on people who look prepubescent. Just because some teenagers look younger than their age doesnt change this fact at all.

 

Im done with you.

[Els]

Qualified to judge ages? Wow....excuse me...I didnt know some women out there actually defend dudes getting off on simulated children.

 

Im done with you.

 

*shrugs* For someone who claims to be very sexually open and adventurous, you certainly fall short of your advertisement if you get squicked by grown, consensual women roleplaying as girls. I'll leave it at that.

[kaylan]

^Im not adventurous when it comes to KIDS. REAL men protect women and children.

[Els]

Yeah... For the 3rd time, women who dress like kids (which was what your initial post to me was about) are not actually kids.

[kaylan]

Also, The sort of roleplaying that you think is ok is actually very dangerous to children. Its one thing if the women dress like young girls but still have the faces and bodies of women. Its an entirely different thing to sexualize real minors or to take women who havent grown into their bodies and present them as real minors.

 

Understand this.

[zengirl]

Given that those girls are Asian, they could very likely be 18+. I look as young (though not as good, sadly), and I'm in my mid-20s.

 

Yes, they look about 18-20 to me.

 

The poster who said the legal age in Japan was 16 was incorrect, however. For the most part, statutory rape/age of consent is 'decriminalized' by the district, not the nation, and ranges from 13-18, depending on situation and exceptions, and under 18, you'd need parental consent as well, with the way the laws are written. I would certainly not recommend an expat go over there and sleep with a 16 year old Japanese gal -- you could get in ALL kinds of trouble and would probably not know how to read the laws correctly. The driving age is 18 and generally considered 'adult' age is 20. At any rate, you can potentially be prosecuted in your HOME country (if you're an American, this is the case) for having sex with a "minor" by your country's terms abroad. So. . . I'd say be mindful of over-simplifying laws.

 

As to a 20 year old Asian girl in schoolgirl clothing holding a teddy bear who looks 14 to white people. . . well, so what? The culture in such countries is very much THAT way. Grown women carrying Hello Kitty dolls and wearing girlish clothes is pretty much the norm in such countries, and I find it a much less disturbing trend than 12 year olds wearing thongs and midriffs, personally. It's just a girlish style. East Asian styles (for men AND women in some cases, but particularly for women) are often more childlike, but they're also often less revealing. It's just a clothing style.

[kaylan]

And another thing,

 

I know they might not be actually kids, but they are being presented as such and the men who get off on that stuff dont really know they are grown adult women all the time. THATS why they get off on prepubescent looking women.

 

And lets not forget the troll mentioned the Asian chick was actually 12. Sure Asian people can look younger than white folks, but Im black and we look younger than our ages too, and I wouldnt mix up those girls he showed to be much older than what they really are.

Edited May 8, 2012 by kaylan

[Els]

Also, The sort of roleplaying that you think is ok is actually very dangerous to children. Its one thing if the women dress like young girls but still have the faces and bodies of women. Its an entirely different thing to sexualize real minors or to take women who havent grown into their bodies and present them as real minors.

 

Understand this.

 

I hate to break this to you, but many Asian women have the bodies of 'minors' as Americans understand it. If the woman is of legal age, nobody is 'taking her' and 'presenting her' as anything. She is choosing to do it herself. Lolita is a huge thing in Japan. Girls above 18 love dressing up like that and many of their men enjoy that. I don't really get it either, but I will defend anyone's right to their own sexual preferences assuming that they are legal and consensual. And their ACTUAL child rape rates are not any higher than most other countries - they are lower, in fact.

[LittlePrince]

I think it is time you few move your pedo debate into the appropriate forum. At first it was entertaining for its shear ridiculousness but now you are droning on and on.

[zerovandez]

Minka Kelly = Hot! She's my ideal type but I've never gotten close to dating anyone like that. lol

[kaylan]

I hate to break this to you, but many Asian women have the bodies of 'minors' as Americans understand it. If the woman is of legal age, nobody is 'taking her' and 'presenting her' as anything. She is choosing to do it herself. Lolita is a huge thing in Japan. Girls above 18 love dressing up like that and many of their men enjoy that. I don't really get it either, but I will defend anyone's right to their own sexual preferences assuming that they are legal and consensual. And their ACTUAL child rape rates are not any higher than most other countries - they are lower, in fact.

THATS MY POINT.

 

Why present any women as minors in the west with the rates of child rape that we have? This isnt solely about asian women either...so dont even try that.

 

Dudes here in the west like to get off on child-like looking white girls. Its all wrong really.

 

And yes, the people who take the pictures and footage do the presenting. Its not solely the female doing the presenting. So fail post is fail.

Edited May 8, 2012 by kaylan

[ThaWholigan]

THATS MY POINT.

 

Why present any women as minors in the west with the rates of child rape that we have? This isnt solely about asian women either...so dont even try that.

 

Dudes here in the west like to get off on child-like looking white girls. Its all wrong really.

 

And yes, the people who take the pictures and footage do the presenting. Its not solely the female doing the presenting. So fail post is fail.

THis is true. When I was in school, we used to get the hustler pornos called barely legal or just over 18. Those white girls were really made to look much younger than they were, it was weird. Leah Luv even used to have the braces and pig-tails

[Els]

THATS MY POINT.

 

Why present any women as minors in the west with the rates of child rape that we have? This isnt solely about asian women either...so dont even try that.

 

Dudes here in the west like to get off on child like looking white girls. Its all wrong really.

 

Umm, the girls in those pictures were ALL Asian. Of course I'm going to bring that up. Asians just look young to Westerners, period.

 

Your logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin. You claimed that lolita culture is dangerous to real minors. I informed you that Japan, THE lolita capital, has a lower rate of child rape than most other countries, so it isn't possible that such roleplaying is dangerous to real minors, or that it is the cause of child rape. Now you're saying that lolita is okay in Japan but not in western cultures? So it's okay for Japanese to be sexually stimulated by those women, but not for Caucasians to be?

[matte123]

Facially I'm attracted to these looks:

http://www.mailun.com/mx/tu/guofucheng1.jpg Aaron Kwok has aged so well over the years

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/__gotmelikeoh/gao1.jpg

http://postfiles5.naver.net/20100512_212/kazuyasuki_12736454144481Nwm5_jpg/93584578_minsungcuty_kazuyasuki.jpg?type=w2

 

I prefer men with bodies like Rain's when he was promoting "Love Story"

http://static.allkpop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Optimized-20100414_rainlovesongparody.jpg

[kaylan]

Umm, the girls in those pictures were ALL Asian. Of course I'm going to bring that up. Asians just look young to Westerners, period.

 

Your logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin. You claimed that lolita culture is dangerous to real minors. I informed you that Japan, THE lolita capital, has a lower rate of child rape than most other countries, so it isn't possible that such roleplaying is dangerous to real minors, or that it is the cause of child rape. Now you're saying that lolita is okay in Japan but not in western cultures? So it's okay for Japanese to be sexually stimulated by those women, but not for Caucasians to be?

Yes the girls in the pics were all asian, but my points were solely about asian women. They were about ALL women and girls.

 

You cannot compare Eastern culture to the West. You dont seem to understand the points your argument makes.

 

Because the West has higher child rape rates, how does perpetuating the sexualization of minors help the situation? Nevermind the fact that you seem to have a failed understanding of Japanese lolita. While these women dress up like little girls, they dont all look like 11 year olds. If my Japanese and Korean friends dressed in lolita, id still recognize them as 20 something year olds. Asians are not all child like looking people, especially if youre familiar with them.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fashion

 

THATS Lolita fashion. Its more about Victorian era clothing. Not wanting to bang little girls or women who look like little girls.

Edited May 8, 2012 by kaylan

[zengirl]

Because the West has higher child rape rates, how does perpetuating the sexualizations of minors help the situation? Nevermind the fact that you seem to have a failed understanding of Japanese lolita. While these women dress up like little girls, they dont all look like 11 year olds.

 

I would think that the sexualization of minors is more prevalent in Western culture and with more "developed" looking minors. The real issue of statutory rape often comes because people, instead of looking at age and maturity, look at purely physical development to equate it to sexual development. Additionally, in Western cultures, teenagers wear revealing clothing that shows off their "adult bodies," and even kids these days can get clothes that looks rather adult.

 

I would think the opposite, adults who wear somewhat childish clothes and have less developed bodies, would be much less of a problem, socially. That doesn't mean I think someone who fetishizes prepubescent bodies is great by any means --- I just don't think that's the typical problem with statutory rape rates in the West AT ALL or would fundamentally contribute to it, because the whole problem is that people think a young girl (or guy) who 'looks' developed IS developed.

[MrNate 2.0]

Ok back to the original purpose of the thread which was to discuss ideal physical body types.

 

First, props to wholigan for that phenomenal avi.

 

Everyone knows I'm a fan of full features. Now, a couple women for me who shines above all the rest:

 

Google Image Result for http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6639/images/jessica-alba-headshot.jpg

 

And this sexy mama: Google Image Result for http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EfbconQH06Y/T4dDMzG_9TI/AAAAAAAAAFA/BdC2kj-0mEk/s1600/Kim-Kardashian-002.jpg

 

 

I think I need to go work out now.

[Andy_K]

BS. Such a physique can be achieved fairly easily through hard training and proper nutrition. There is nothing "insane" about the physique she posted. Don't assume that everyone bigger than you or with a better physique is on gear.

 

Not necessarily true. It depends on what specifically about that physique it is she likes. Getting that level of muscle & ab definition is achievable for anyone with the discipline and knowledge. However... 90% of guys won't look like that guy even with the right body composition, due to generic factors like bone structure and muscle distribution.

 

Many guys don't have symmetrical abs. Many guys have lower set pecs that are extremely difficult to get defined, and won't look like that guy's even if they do. Check out Stallone in Rambo 2 or 3, he's ripped as hell but still doesn't have a chest that looks like that.

[Eternal Sunshine]

I have to say that I side with kaylan here.

 

Now can get back on topic