MrNate 2.0 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 You think Megan Fox's butt is plump? I just don't see it. Look at her side view, it's a pancake. My husband says she suffers from nasatall. http://bretcontreras.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/megan-fox-butt.jpg Agreed. Nothing plump about that ass. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Zengirl East Asian fashion is girlish, though --- women wear clothes that are reminiscent of little girls. Why is that fashion choice bothersome? Why is Western fashion preferable? The real question I would ask myself is why women are making fashion choices that are infact "reminiscent of little girls". And what this expresses of them and of their culture and menatilies about themselves vs who they will become as they age. Wearing clothes with the purpose to look more like little girls says something really important about that culture and what is important to that culture. Encouraging adult grown women to dress and look and even act like little girls seems like a step backwards in sexual health, not a step foward. And on that note, why is it that men don't want to look like or dress like little boys? Would we encourage that? I don't think men want to look like little boys, even in asian culture because being a little boy goes against what men want to be, full grown, mature adult strong men. But for women, it's treated like a place women should be degraded for aging. So what happens? you have a culture where both men and women try to wrongely perpuate the youth of women as being only one thing. This kind of strange, immature, school girl thing. Instead of embracing everything women can be as grown mature adult women. Instead embracing how even grown mature, adult women can be soft and feminine and fun without having to dress up like school girls are japanase cartoons that protray women that look about 13. In many parts of Asia, it wouldn't be seen as "dressing like a little girl." That's the crux of the problem with this discussion, the Western-centric attitude. Well, I would argue that point because alot of popular Asian cartoons are drawn so that the girls that look about 12 except with giant eyes and giant boobs. I am not convinced that they don't know they are purposely dressing to look younger. Granted, anyone who wants to bang a 12 year old is messed up, but some of the additional comments levied are just reflecting no understanding of the international community, Eastern fashion, etc. So as long as someone doesn't wants to really bang a 12 year old, but if someone dresses up to protray the image of banging a 12 year old, is okay? And where do you draw the line? I'm 27. When I wear pigtails and a Hello Kitty sweatshirt am I dressing like a little girl? What if I wear a Teddy Bear headband? What if I wear plaid skirts and stockings and schoolgirl shoes? I own ALL those things and not for 'fetish' use. Just because I lived somewhere that they were reasonably in fashion and *I* thought they were cute. It's certainly a fine-line. But I think to get to the heart of the issue, we have to know why people make the fashion choices they are making and what sparks the popularity of certain fashion in different cultures. And what that person is trying to protray by dressing that way. There are things I wear at home that I don't wear in public. Like really short shorts. I am aware of enough to know that certain fashion choices display me a certain way. I like my short shorts though because I have nice legs. But I don't wear them in public because they send a message about me. Alot of things have become questionable because they have been fetishized through sexual material. Cheerleader outsfits aren't simply uniforms anymore, there is a sexual context to them because it's a popular thing used in sexual material. I wonder how many daddies watching their daughter and her school mates cheer for a big game done so after watching some porn scene about a cheerleader. It's not a black and white issue because when these things overlap, they become confusing. Same for school girl outfits. The line is blurred because alot of those fashion choices have been made over sexualized through fetishising age and certain things associated with school aged girls. I don't have all the answers but I think alot of it is twisted up. I wonder why women are more eager to dress like little girls then like women. Fashion can still be fun with a more polished sophisticated look. I mean to me, this is polished, sophisticated and womanly, feminine and fun with bright colors: Dress vs. this: Asian Fashion Which is just really costumey. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 DY, I'm not going to derail this thread further for your porn agenda, I'm sorry. If I can't convince you that consensual porn is not the spawn of the devil and BDSM is not borne out of misogyny, I certainly can't convince you of people's rights to roleplay whatever they want within the boundaries of legality and consensuality. So... I'm not even going to try Again, you could still comment on what I had to say avoiding the porn part if you desire to. However, this still plays a big role in how we see beauty and what is sexually popular at the moment. It's a bigger part of our culture then ever before as well. So refusing to discuss it in terms of bodies and sexuality seems strange to me. I also said nothing about people's rights to roleplay whatever they want. I just am not of the PC belief that if it feels good, you should do it and everyone else needs to accept it. You are allowed to have sex anyway you want. I do not wish to tell you personally how to conduct yourself sexually. However, in a social context I will share my opinion on it instead of just the old "free love, do whatever makes you feel good" mentality. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Radu Cheerleader outfits have been for sale at sex-shops since the 70's. I never said they weren't. Putting a stamp of 'child-porn' on anyone who likes a petite girl is ... beyond retarded. Do you actually think these things through ? Do you? Do you actually read my post before you respond to it? I clearly stated that liking petite women had NOTHING to do with men that liked little girls. I'd like you to meet some of my ex-college friends [girls] who because of socio-economic issues are somewhat smaller [under 5 feet]. LOL LOL...well for those that know my former name..they are getting a good laugh out of this right now. And, let's not forget you are branding the entire nation of North Koreea as pedophiles. Show me which part of my statement brants the entire nation of North Korea's as pedophiles? And just because you find some of the stuff coming out of Japan as 'disgusting' doesn't mean the rest of the world shares your opinion on the matter. It is you're opinion and that's about it. Well it's not my opinion. It's something other people, a number of men, have told me. Because when I have gotten into arguments about porn they said I should see what Asian porn does because it's some truly vile and digusting stuff. PS: Some of the stuff coming out of Japan is pretty nice, and yes ... i do mean the porn/sexual stuff. LOL, I am sure you do. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Oh my. Well I suppose when people look at these pics I will get more "unrealistic" comments, but here goes: http://www.diets-chart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/weight-lifting-exercises-abs.jpg YES! Even thinking about my ideal makes me horny lol not good considering I'm at work. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Again, you could still comment on what I had to say avoiding the porn part if you desire to. However, this still plays a big role in how we see beauty and what is sexually popular at the moment. It's a bigger part of our culture then ever before as well. So refusing to discuss it in terms of bodies and sexuality seems strange to me. I also said nothing about people's rights to roleplay whatever they want. I just am not of the PC belief that if it feels good, you should do it and everyone else needs to accept it. You are allowed to have sex anyway you want. I do not wish to tell you personally how to conduct yourself sexually. However, in a social context I will share my opinion on it instead of just the old "free love, do whatever makes you feel good" mentality. Look, if you really want to get further comments on this, start another thread. Try not to make it about porn. Then perhaps a genuine discussion can ensue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 OK, I am curious for people to post picture examples of someone that represents their ideal physical type. I have posted one in my album. I know this guy in real life but his personality rules him out as a dating prospect. Perhaps a bit complicated but, sticking to my age group as examples, there's long been something about Katey Sagal which flips a switch. The short list is she's tall, curvy and has amazing eyes which get greener as one gets closer. The complicated part is psychology and emotional memory linking to physical appearance - the mother of my teenage/young adult male best friend was a spitting image of Katey and I developed a raging crush on her as a 19-21yo when she'd end up in my arms after her H had been violent with her or after subsequent panic attacks from that DV. Her face, eyes and lips were Katey's, and she was tall and curvy like Katey, whom I would later see when MWC first aired in 1987. Those memories have remained throughout the years and formed a particular 'program' of ideal, perhaps from odd beginnings but it is what it is. I've dated many women and was married to someone quite different than that 'ideal' without substantive impact on attraction and/or love, and have fallen in love with markedly different appearing women but acknowledge that it's there. OK, back to a simpler, more straightforward program Link to post Share on other sites
january2011 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I tend to prefer dark hair, clear skin and bright eyes. Last time I answered one of these threads, I think I said something about tall and slim with lean muscles. However, when it comes down to it, I think there's a difference between liking the surface and actually dating/being in a relationship (including sex) with the surface + what's underneath. It doesn't matter how hot he looks, if he's a piece of garbage underneath, then no dice. I think that's why celebrities are nice to look at, but I wouldn't date them. And after trying out a few bodies for size, there are some that are definitely more compatible with me than others. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Slippers Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I don't have a physical type. I've been in relationships with men of all different sizes, shapes, and colors. I used to think I preferred blue eyes - but then I dated a Latino guy with the most warm, gorgeous brown eyes. And I always got lost in my last boyfriend's hazel eyes, brown at the periphery, with green and gold radiating and sparkling out from the centers. I guess about the only physical preferences I have are that he be tall - 6'1-6'5" is my ideal, since I'm tall; bigger/stronger than I am; reasonably fit, though an earthy body type with some padding is fine. I like all hair colors, but I do like it when there's enough hair to play with. But then, I dated a guy who shaved his head completely, and that was sexy in its own way. And I've been with shorter and skinnier guys and found them sexy. I don't understand most people's fixation with appearance. I can find sexy and attractive qualities in just about any man. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Ross MwcFan Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Look, if you really want to get further comments on this, start another thread. Try not to make it about porn. Then perhaps a genuine discussion can ensue. Is she going on about porn again? Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 That's pretty hard to achieve. Even with an insane diet and weight lifting regimen one might still not be able to pull that off. Plus that requires supplements some of those being drugs/hormones. HAHAHAHAHA. That kind of body? Really hard to achieve I love how everyone is complaining that it's hard to get this body. First of all, yes it is, and the fact that it's "hard" is no excuse for being fat. My ex had a body like this. All he did was eat healthy and go to the gym. Apparently that's a huge stretch for most Americans. You are simply posting a male torso. That is simply a body part and not a person. But that's what the OP asked for, body type. For me this is the body type. Besides, even if I wanted a face attached, its more difficult to find an attractive male face than an attractive male body. At least on google Your physical ideal lacks a head?!?! Kinky! lol! Probably because that's what i'm lacking the most at the moment...a hot male body 2 Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Mila Kunis is my ideal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dafa Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I love how everyone is complaining that it's hard to get this body. First of all, yes it is, and the fact that it's "hard" is no excuse for being fat. It is not necessarily an excuse to not try, with that i agree. However, if it is indeed hard, then most people will end up failing at achieving, otherwise it would not be deemed hard, would it? It's much easier to get like that when you are financially prosper, have quite a nice amount of time on your hands and have good genetics. Otherwise, it is a quite frustrating up-hill battle. My ex had a body like this. All he did was eat healthy and go to the gym. Apparently that's a huge stretch for most Americans. I'm not doubting this is true. With that said, you are making it sound much more easy than it is. One of the first caveats is: You gotta have good genetics. Meaning if you are naturally thin, you can't look like that without pumping yourself with chemicals. I can think of others, if you want to pursue this discussion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I love how everyone is complaining that it's hard to get this body. First of all, yes it is, and the fact that it's "hard" is no excuse for being fat. My ex had a body like this. All he did was eat healthy and go to the gym. Apparently that's a huge stretch for most Americans. 1.) Not being able to get this body type doesn't make one fat. 2.)For most if not all it will take more than simply exercising and dieting to get that ripped. Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I don't have a physical type. I've been in relationships with men of all different sizes, shapes, and colors. I used to think I preferred blue eyes - but then I dated a Latino guy with the most warm, gorgeous brown eyes. And I always got lost in my last boyfriend's hazel eyes, brown at the periphery, with green and gold radiating and sparkling out from the centers. I guess about the only physical preferences I have are that he be tall - 6'1-6'5" is my ideal, since I'm tall; bigger/stronger than I am; reasonably fit, though an earthy body type with some padding is fine. I like all hair colors, but I do like it when there's enough hair to play with. But then, I dated a guy who shaved his head completely, and that was sexy in its own way. And I've been with shorter and skinnier guys and found them sexy. I don't understand most people's fixation with appearance. I can find sexy and attractive qualities in just about any man. Ruby: In your posts you often imply you have dated a lot. Can you give an approximate number? When are you settling down? Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Nah, it is not just Americans. I rarely see males around the world that are nothing but muscle. It just doesn't happen unless you work out a lot WITH weights. Yeah that body isn't natural and before a weight lifting culture developed it simply wouldn't have existed. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Ruby: In your posts you often imply you have dated a lot. Can you give an approximate number? When are you settling down? Let a playa play. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pteromom Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Everyone definitely has different tastes. I do not typically find very hard muscular bodies attractive. I like guys who are tall with broad shoulders, strong, and just a little padding (not obese, but "stocky") I don't care about hair or eye color or how much hair a guy has. I do like short hair and a well-groomed guy. The main thing is a smile and twinkly happy eyes. Gets me every time, even if they aren't someone I would usually notice. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Women with higher expectations will be single longer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Since I'm not allowed to post a pic of H., Jon Hamm looks similar. What can I say, I have a "type" preference. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelsgoodman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 That's pretty hard to achieve. Even with an insane diet and weight lifting regimen one might still not be able to pull that off. Plus that requires supplements some of those being drugs/hormones. Actually, no it's not, provided you've got the right genetics. My brother used to have a body like and he didn't even go to the gym. He just did lots of pushups and abdominal crunches. And some people could never look like that not matter how hard they tried. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Yeah that body isn't natural and before a weight lifting culture developed it simply wouldn't have existed. It's basically a freak show. The female equivalent would be this, completely natural Of course lets not forget the fact that she didn't have to do anything to get like that. While the ripped guy had to works his ass off, in addition to having great genetics. Link to post Share on other sites
tman666 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Wait, so working hard to get sub 10 percent bodyfat and a fairly modest amount of muscle mass is the same thing as paying cosmetic surgeons for JJJ size boobs? I may never touch a weight again! Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Wait, so working hard to get sub 10 percent bodyfat and a fairly modest amount of muscle mass is the same thing as paying cosmetic surgeons for JJJ size boobs? I may never touch a weight again! If that's in response to my post, as I already said, she's natural. Link to post Share on other sites
Thieves Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Luckily, I don't really have one physical type that I keep going back to. It seems to change moment by moment as I've had crushes on people in real life and celebrities who are of all heights (5'6" -- 6'5"), eye colors, pale, tan, dark, lean, nicely padded, chiseled face, baby-faced, etc. I do have a thing for very nice facial hair and long hair, though. And glasses. :love: Though I do have to admit, I don't keep up with the whole "Mad Men" craze, but that Jon Hamm guy is pretty sexy. Link to post Share on other sites
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