Consolidated Discussion - Paying for Dates

[Pyro]

I don't take people seriously who can't spell a simple word like 'like'

[Anela]

You can call me whoever you want, if it helps you cope with the fact that people have different views than you. But the only facts here are that:

 

1) If you can't afford yourself, you shouldn't date

2) You have 25,000 posts and all you do is patrol the board attacking men who think buying someone out is ridiculous

3) You're a desperate white knight being overly aggressive to compensate that you're a physically weak, whimp in real life.

4) Get a life and stop trying to police others' views. We know how you feel, move the hell on.

 

A desperate white knight? He's happily married.

 

You're trying to police others' views. You could try taking your own advice. We know how you feel, so move the hell on.

 

dude has to be some old ass man who struggled all his life with women and got passed up for the "jerks". and since you're attitude isn't putting women on a pedestal, you're one of the "jerks" that he frequently lost to over the course of his life before settling for his 4/10 plain jayne

 

And his wife is no plain jane.

[Pyro]

A desperate white knight? He's happily married.

 

You're trying to police others' views. You could try taking your own advice. We know how you feel, so move the hell on.

 

 

 

And his wife is no plain jane.

 

Save your breath.

 

You are either lying or in denial according to them. You can't convince them otherwise.

[Art_Critic]

and i thought working on weekends to pay my college costs sucked.

 

... what until life hits you square in the mouth and you have to actually pay for more than your college costs and you have to work more than a few hrs on the weekends, then you should be doing some bitching.

 

When I was your age, 100-120 hrs a week at work was standard and 120+ was the exception.

[dbzeng]

I pay for the first 1 date, if the relationship goes on longer, I expect the woman to pay half.

 

There is no reason why a woman shouldn't pay equally. I don't keep a close eye on the cash, but I like to alternate paying for things.

[WonderKid]

Whoa I missed a lot on here! Seems like things are heating up!

 

O.O

[Anela]

I don't think of guys in basements, as I see all of these posts from the same bitter guys. I think of gremlins being fed after midnight, or having a bath, and self-replicating.

[Brit]

I didn't know telling someone, who's too poor to afford themselves for a night out, to get a job was being bitter. I wonder what the bums on the side of the road think about me when I don't give them food.

 

Wow, you have been hateful to not only LS posters (we have a backbone, and do pretty well defending ourselves), but now you are attacking the homeless, the vast being significantly mentally ill, (without adequate funding to treat these individuals, most huge in patient asylums closed due to cost), really? you wouldn't give them food, yes I can see the point one may not want to hand out cash (drugs and liquor which is a secondary factor to their serious mental health issue), but food????

[Brit]

Next time your chomping on your juicy cheeseburger, think about the homeless, many buy bulk bags or ask kennel owners, for dog food to survive, they are that hungry.

[musemaj11]

That's actually not true. First she's the girlfriend, ok some dates and maybe a gift on valentines and her birthday. Usually she'll put out quite frequently so it might be cheaper than a prostitute. Since you said long term it'll eventually involve moving in, where you'll most likely pay the majority of the bills. Depending on the girl she might start putting out less because of "routine". If not she still might be cheaper than a quality working girl. And then you get married, by your 25th mortgage payment a top tier prostitute would've been cheaper for the 6 times you've had sex since you got married.

I didnt say anything about moving in and getting married.

 

And if you think paying for a prostitute is cheaper than having a girlfriend, then Im sorry if I have to wonder if you have ever had a girlfriend before my friend.

 

Just for one little example, a prostitute will charge you hundreds of dollars per hour while on the other hand a 'girlfriend' will have sex with you all night long for the same price that you spend on her on a date.

 

 

Then why are you here debating this topic if you don't mind paying every time? Serious question.

Read the whole sentence of my post, dude.

Edited July 14, 2012 by musemaj11

[musemaj11]

I firmly believe a woman should ALWAYS still offer to pay for herself, it is just common courtesy.

There is nothing courteous about being fake.

 

95% of women offer to pay as a dating ritual and expect to have their offer rejected. Why offer when you dont plan to pay anyway? I also dont understand men who like this ritual as well. Why would you like being treated insincerely?

 

The way someone handles money pretty much describes his/her personality.

 

If you dont see any genuine attempt by a woman to spend any money on you as early as the first date, then dont expect a lot of generosity from her in the future. Generous people are generous at anytime. Doesnt matter if its the first or 50th date. Unfortunately generous American women are very rare. And those who are are mostly fat and ugly so they are generous in order to make up for something.

Edited July 14, 2012 by musemaj11

[Els]

I don't think of guys in basements, as I see all of these posts from the same bitter guys. I think of gremlins being fed after midnight, or having a bath, and self-replicating.

 

I was thinking amoebas, really..

[Pyro]

There is nothing courteous about being fake.

 

95% of women offer to pay as a dating ritual and expect to have their offer rejected. Why offer when you dont plan to pay anyway? I also dont understand men who like this ritual as well. Why would you like being treated insincerely?

 

The way someone handles money pretty much describes his/her personality.

 

If you dont see any genuine attempt by a woman to spend any money on you as early as the first date, then dont expect a lot of generosity from her in the future. Generous people are generous at anytime. Doesnt matter if its the first or 50th date. Unfortunately generous American women are very rare. And those who are are mostly fat and ugly so they are generous in order to make up for something.

 

How do you expect to learn anything if you say that anything a woman says that proves your beliefs wrong to be fake/a lie?

 

Believe or not women do exist who pay or chip in. Its not an impossible feat.

[FredRobbins]

I don't feel obligated to provide for anyone. That custom is from back when women couldn't earn their own money. So, if is she's too cheap to provide for her own self, she probably shouldn't be dating and dragging someone else down. There's too many options out there for me to consider providing for an adult child.

 

And it's pathetic how these poor women "like" anything that is beneficial toward women. You can really tell why some of these women are this site in the first place. Their attitudes and female-centric views write checks that their looks can't cash. If you suggest equality, then it's labeled as "trolling" or "misogyny". Go ahead and keep turning each other on trying to be equal and old fashioned only when it benefits you. As long as you're on LS, you're not dragging some real world man down, so it's all good.

 

SMH@ anyone who has to pay someone to go out with them. Way to be desperate and put them above yourself. Me and my buds never feel entitled to receive financial compensation, I don't know why this should be any different.

Edited July 14, 2012 by FredRobbins
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[FredRobbins]

I was reading on another forum, and a guy brought up a decent point. Women hold out for sex, and say that if the guy can't go without it, then that's all he wanted.

 

Now, what if men did the same with their wallets? This way, both parties, would play the hold out game until they are sure about one another.

 

Something tells me there is a double-standard should the guy decide to hold out, though.

[brahmabull117]

It's not possible. Guys are so desperate to get laid that if you choose to "hold out", there will be a line of guys willing to do whatever it takes to get in her pants

[miss_jaclynrae]

I really don't understand this obsession a lot of you have when it comes to paying for dates.

 

 

 

 

 

Don't want to be with a woman who expects you to pay and gets huffy when you don't?

DON'T DATE HER AGAIN.

 

 

 

The great thing about dating is that there is no commitment!

You can say that it will dwindle your chances of dating, but for crying out loud, if you are an awesome date, then money will barely be an issue!

[FredRobbins]

I really don't understand this obsession a lot of you have when it comes to paying for dates.

 

 

 

 

 

Don't want to be with a woman who expects you to pay and gets huffy when you don't?

DON'T DATE HER AGAIN.

 

 

 

The great thing about dating is that there is no commitment!

You can say that it will dwindle your chances of dating, but for crying out loud, if you are an awesome date, then money will barely be an issue!

 

Why do you always pop up when some guy expresses that you not being able to afford yourself for a night out, is not his responsibility?

 

I remember you in some mega-thread the other night, where you admitted to being "old fashioned" only when it benefited you. What makes you feel entitled?

[miss_jaclynrae]

Why do you always pop up when some guy expresses that you not being able to afford yourself for a night out, is not his responsibility?

 

I remember you in some mega-thread the other night, where you admitted to being "old fashioned" only when it benefited you. What makes you feel entitled?

 

You obviously took my post wrong. Re-read my posts. I make a valid point and you completely just ignored it in order to turn it on me and how I feel so entitled.

 

 

 

Entitled how? As in I know what I want in a man and have all confidence in the fact that I will find it AND that I deserve it? How is that so terrible? I would hope you have the confidence to feel the same, if that means finding a woman who can and will hold for herself financially then so be it.

[FredRobbins]

You obviously took my post wrong. Re-read my posts. I make a valid point and you completely just ignored it in order to turn it on me and how I feel so entitled.

 

 

 

Entitled how? As in I know what I want in a man and have all confidence in the fact that I will find it AND that I deserve it? How is that so terrible? I would hope you have the confidence to feel the same, if that means finding a woman who can and will hold for herself financially then so be it.

 

So, like I said.... what makes you feel entitled to a guy's funds? And why are you only "old fashioned" when it benefits you? I'm genuinely curious as to how this mindset is developed.

[miss_jaclynrae]

So, like I said.... what makes you feel entitled to a guy's funds? And why are you only "old fashioned" when it benefits you? I'm genuinely curious as to how this mindset is developed.

 

I am old fashioned in the fact that manners and chivalry go a long ways with me. I appreciate that in a man. What you are asking really doesn't make much sense o me since I never once said I felt entitled to a mans funds. I have actually repeatedly stated that I DON'T MIND PAYING.

 

 

[brahmabull117]

I am old fashioned in the fact that manners and chivalry go a long ways with me. I appreciate that in a man. What you are asking really doesn't make much sense o me since I never once said I felt entitled to a mans funds. I have actually repeatedly stated that I DON'T MIND PAYING.

 

 

 

 

2 things I want to say here

 

 

1)You do seem like a nice girl but you should probably proofread your posts before you press submit. A lot of your posts are not conveying the message you think they're conveying

 

 

2)I don't actually have a problem with manners/chivalry or even paying for stuff as long as it's a 2 way street and my manners/chivalry and what not are returned in favor. That's why I always say find a girl with similar values to you and ignore the ones with idiotic double standards

[FredRobbins]

I am old fashioned in the fact that manners and chivalry go a long ways with me. I appreciate that in a man. What you are asking really doesn't make much sense o me since I never once said I felt entitled to a mans funds. I have actually repeatedly stated that I DON'T MIND PAYING.

 

 

 

Seems different in that other locked epic topic.

 

aRealman: "This is typical. I'm sure you're not "old school" when it comes to pay checks and voting rights, though -- right? Just "old school" when it benefits you?"

 

you:"Exactly right.

 

 

As I said, if the man does it willingly how is it in anyway my fault?

I say more props to him for doing it out of want rather than because he must.

Again, I never said it should be like that for everyone. That is just how I like it, and I am sure there are men out there willing to do it, and for those that don't, there is a woman out there for them who is ok with that. ;)"

 

him: "I thought so. And most guys do it because it's expected for us to let the adult children to freeload/mooch from us. Otherwise, the dating pool is much smaller, if there at all.

 

Ya know, I'm not even going to rant about how selfish, self-centered, and useless a person like this is.... it's not like it's going to do anything, because there're plenty of whiteknights who encourage this behavior like brahmabull."

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/334939-what-makes-women-worth-winning-over-6.html

 

 

I'm probably not going to post more of that, because it might this locked.

[Teal]

If that's what it takes to find the crowd who also believe in going slow, sign me up pronto!

 

I already pay my half and don't care.

[miss_jaclynrae]

Seems different in that other locked epic topic.

 

aRealman: "This is typical. I'm sure you're not "old school" when it comes to pay checks and voting rights, though -- right? Just "old school" when it benefits you?"

 

you:"Exactly right.

 

 

As I said, if the man does it willingly how is it in anyway my fault?

I say more props to him for doing it out of want rather than because he must.

Again, I never said it should be like that for everyone. That is just how I like it, and I am sure there are men out there willing to do it, and for those that don't, there is a woman out there for them who is ok with that. ;)"

 

him: "I thought so. And most guys do it because it's expected for us to let the adult children to freeload/mooch from us. Otherwise, the dating pool is much smaller, if there at all.

 

Ya know, I'm not even going to rant about how selfish, self-centered, and useless a person like this is.... it's not like it's going to do anything, because there're plenty of whiteknights who encourage this behavior like brahmabull."

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/334939-what-makes-women-worth-winning-over-6.html

 

 

I'm probably not going to post more of that, because it might this locked.

 

It is called sarcasm. The second bolded part I meant though, do I find is kind and considerate when the guy does pay? OF COURSE. Does that mean I expect it and get my panties in a wad when he doesn't? Hell no. Please read my posts in a majority of threads and you will see what my real POV is.