HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I hear that. I have taken a new interest in fitness recently, courtesy of my very fit dad. So I can certainly see myself taking it very seriously in the future, considering that I now have ambitions of being much more athletic. It's good that you do it for you, I'm pleased to hear that. 2 step process Work out hard and eat moderately high calories to gain muscle Work out hard and eat moderately low calories to shed fat It's very simple, the hard part is just execution. It might take you 2-3 years but you can get big muscles and chiseled abs if you want and are willing to work your butt off for it PM me if you have any questions, I'm pretty much a personal trainer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Such a shame average is now overweight. But as a non-overweight guy, that makes me above average right? And yes I know that C+ is not average, that is why I said I am fine with a B, which is average, but bigger is better. No, not being overweight is not good enough, as you yourself said. Admit it. You would not look twice at me, because I fall outside out of your range -- for dating, sex, etc. Right? I saw you post to a BEAUTIFUL girl here on LS that you would not date her because she fell out of your range, and she was not only gorgeous but thin, low number of sex partners, but of course had smaller boobs, being thin. (Normal) And you told her you would not date her! So, what do you have to offer to a gorgeous girl? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Maybe because they remember me from those days. These other guys are still new to them. I also sometimes have a knee jerk reaction myself when I see the subtle misandry not from most old timers but many of the new women. It's only the old timers who have been around a long time who say helpful things to you? That's not how I see it. What is the best way to help those guys, Woggle? Why don't you do it if you think they need it so bad? The difference is that they come on here pissed off and confrontational and they aren't looking for guidance. They don't see themselves as struggling. They come here looking to have arguments and to try to put people in their place. They put reasonable people on the defensive from the start. Empathy is not going to happen. They come here and threaten what has always been a pretty decent culture on this site, which you must value, because you've stayed for so long. You never once see those guys say they are having a hard time, like you did and still do. They never ask for help and wouldn't accept it if was offered. What they really want to do is spread the anger they feel. The moment one of those guys comes on and asks for help figuring something out, anyone who hasn't already written him off as a supreme butthole will gladly provide it. All they have to do is be honest, which is what you did. And probably apologize. That's the difference, Woggle. If they don't get empathy it's their own fault. So how should the people on this site who have put so much time and energy into your issues feel when you turn and say they aren't caring people? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It's only the old timers who have been around a long time who say helpful things to you? That's not how I see it. What is the best way to help those guys, Woggle? Why don't you do it if you think they need it so bad? The difference is that they come on here pissed off and confrontational and they aren't looking for guidance. They don't see themselves as struggling. They come here looking to have arguments and to try to put people in their place. They put reasonable people on the defensive from the start. Empathy is not going to happen. They come here and threaten what has always been a pretty decent culture on this site, which you must value, because you've stayed for so long. You never once see those guys say they are having a hard time, like you did and still do. They never ask for help and wouldn't accept it if was offered. What they really want to do is spread the anger they feel. The moment one of those guys comes on and asks for help figuring something out, anyone who hasn't already written him off as a supreme butthole will gladly provide it. All they have to do is be honest, which is what you did. And probably apologize. That's the difference, Woggle. If they don't get empathy it's their own fault. So how should the people on this site who have put so much time and energy into your issues feel when you turn and say they aren't caring people? I see what you are saying. I just really have a soft spot for men who are struggling. Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You don't think that "sexy"/"hot" women tend to be superficial/high maintenance though? Of course. Lots of them do, but I don't think superficiality should be attributed to how good looking a woman is. The two aren't really related, it's just a stereotype because men feel that a gorgeous woman would only want a gorgeous guy, which is true she does want one (every woman does), but that doesn't mean if you're not perfect she won't be interested. Also... ...he most beautiful women I've met aren't really as superficial as they may seem. They aren't looking for the most perfect dude in the world either, they are actually really naturally beautiful within and without. I curse my own insecurities for preventing me the pleasure of their intimate company, but such is life . TW you make me smile inside It's so nice to hear men actually acknowledge that. The stereotype sucks (that pretty women are shallow) and it often works against beautiful girls. And I think i've said this to you before, don't be shy!! You are so great, honestly. I don't see what you have to be shy about! (And in this case, the stereotype works IN your favour teehee ) Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 No, not being overweight is not good enough, as you yourself said. Admit it. You would not look twice at me, because I fall outside out of your range -- for dating, sex, etc. Right? I saw you post to a BEAUTIFUL girl here on LS that you would not date her because she fell out of your range, and she was not only gorgeous but thin, low number of sex partners, but of course had smaller boobs, being thin. (Normal) And you told her you would not date her! So, what do you have to offer to a gorgeous girl? Guys who are that superficial are pretty ridiculous. No point in talking to somebody with that narrow of a mindset Hell, my pecs are probably C cups if you measured them like a woman's and I'd gladly date a woman with small breasts if I liked her as a person. Jesus, all this obsession over superficial things among men is ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I see what you are saying. I just really have a soft spot for men who are struggling. Well help them do something positive. Encourage them to change for the better. Who would know better what they need to hear than you? If they start to move in the right direction (like you did) they will get more empathy and support than they know what to do with. Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 And I think i've said this to you before, don't be shy!! You are so great, honestly. I don't see what you have to be shy about! (And in this case, the stereotype works IN your favour teehee ) Were you talking to me? If so thank you for the love Are you a girl yourself? I can't tell if you're a girl or a boy Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Guys who are that superficial are pretty ridiculous. No point in talking to somebody with that narrow of a mindset Hell, my pecs are probably C cups if you measured them like a woman's and I'd gladly date a woman with small breasts if I liked her as a person. Jesus, all this obsession over superficial things among men is ridiculous Heehee Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Guys who are that superficial are pretty ridiculous. No point in talking to somebody with that narrow of a mindset Hell, my pecs are probably C cups if you measured them like a woman's and I'd gladly date a woman with small breasts if I liked her as a person. Jesus, all this obsession over superficial things among men is ridiculous Well, I don't often agree with the stuff you post, but yes, that was pretty damn superficial. I was shocked when SD said that to that girl. (Won't name names.) Very pretty girl, too. Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Were you talking to me? If so thank you for the love Are you a girl yourself? I can't tell if you're a girl or a boy I'm a gal Nice to meet you! Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Heehee I've always been very gifted in the chest area Nice to meet you as well Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I see what you are saying. I just really have a soft spot for men who are struggling. That is your problem. You see everything in a gendered lens. (I won't list anything here as I am sure you can guess or know what it is...) I see humanity. I work towards more democracy (gender-neutral). Focus on making the world a better place! Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Okay, I think I'm exiting this thread now. I'm an Average Jane, and it's bad enough that I get down on myself, without having to hear it from others. I don't need to hear that I might be settled for, from another woman, when that has already been one concern of mine. Dont mind FS her shallowness is off the charts for a human being,shes not the norm 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 HA! I've always liked lean and muscular guys. I just like the skinny ones with lean muscle for some reason. (And yes I have dated many races and heights before someone says anything....) Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Dont mind FS her shallowness is off the charts for a human being,shes not the norm There goes the golddigger shallow comment again. *sigh* Apparently wanting a hot guy who has a good job is too much to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 There goes the golddigger shallow comment again. *sigh* Apparently wanting a hot guy who has a good job is too much to ask. I think it's the "hot guy" thing that is putting people off. Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 There goes the golddigger shallow comment again. *sigh* Apparently wanting a hot guy who has a good job is too much to ask. What's a good job for you? For me, I'm not gonna make a lot of money until I graduate from school in 2 months and then start working in sales. Would you turn me down for not making six figures right now? (Which I probably will within 4-5 years) Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I think it's the "hot guy" thing that is putting people off. I don't understand how and why people are so "put off" by my OWN PERSONAL WANTS. People want what they want, then they get bashed for it. I will never understand that. I'm assuming most men on LS are super ugly, because I don't see another reason for them complaining that my wanting a hot guy is a horribly shallow thing. Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 There goes the golddigger shallow comment again. *sigh* Apparently wanting a hot guy who has a good job is too much to ask. It's not just that its the way you put things and your whole outlook You're entitlement and condescending attitude is a huge turn off 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alma Mobley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 What's a good job for you? For me, I'm not gonna make a lot of money until I graduate from school in 2 months and then start working in sales. Would you turn me down for not making six figures right now? (Which I probably will within 4-5 years) LOL, FS, how many admirers do you have at this point? And without a single pic, too. What is your magic? Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 LOL, FS, how many admirers do you have at this point? And without a single pic, too. What is your magic? whoa whoa whoa, I'm not an admirer. I don't know her at all I was just curious what her idea is of a "good job" was Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Im chiming in late but heres my take. SEX is easier for women to obtain, DATING (either for companionship or a relationship) is not. Guys are just as picky in that regard. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 What's a good job for you? For me, I'm not gonna make a lot of money until I graduate from school in 2 months and then start working in sales. Would you turn me down for not making six figures right now? (Which I probably will within 4-5 years) To me, a good job is one where a man can pay all his bills, go on vacation and then have some to spare (this might seem high to most people but this is what I want because this is how I make my own living, and I don't want anything less). I've said this before in LS. If a man is 30 and still hasn't made a decent living for himself, then I will consider that he never will and financially he becomes unattractive to me. I have become known as a "golddigger" here on LS because money has a certain level of importance for me when I look for a man. I get bashed for wanting a great looking guy who ALSO has money, and immediately people assume that just because I seriously want these things, I'm a golddigger b*tch Welcome to LS my friend, where your standards are too high, you are too shallow, too picky and wanting certain things that people on LS don't have automatically makes you shallow Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedStandards Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 LOL, FS, how many admirers do you have at this point? And without a single pic, too. What is your magic? If i'm THIS amazing on a FORUM, imagine what I can do in real life! Take this as proof of my high standards ahaha Link to post Share on other sites
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