somedude81 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Stop thinking you are perfection personified. LOL! That is one of the craziest things I have ever heard about me on this forum. Congratulations! Now how is that even relevant to what I said? Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Now how is that even relevant to what I said? You are literally making a mountain out of being short. Being short is something you cannot easily change. You blame just about everything that can go wrong in your dating life on being short, about how women and girls perceive you. To me that mindset almost seems to approach you thinking you are perfect yourself, and that therefore the women should put in all the hard work for you. Rather than actually going out there, and put in the yards, you sit silently in a corner, and curse just about anyone who does have success with women, and these same women who have success with men. People pick up on that vibe in real life. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Uh, when I made that post, my height wasn't even on my mind. Either way, I seriously cannot comprehend how you bring up my height which I've bitched about countless times, and then you say that I think I'm perfect. Huh?! I don't know where you even got the last part of your post from. Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 That's all that needs to be said. Women only want men that they perceive to be better than she is. And everybody is fine with that. this is absolutely true and it's always been baffling to me A woman has to date somebody with more money, more education, more status, taller, bigger, etc... etc... etc... etc... than herself Why is this? Why are women entitled to dating somebody who is superior to themselves? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I think deep down most women are like that as well. I think deep down you and Negative Nancy are psychic twins and should run off together and combine to make one completely negative person. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Why is this? Why are women entitled to dating somebody who is superior to themselves? Most of you guys who snivel about this idea should not mind even if it were true, since you believe that all men are inherently superior to all women anyway. Right? And, nobody is "entitled" to date … at all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
JesseJames Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Women are too manly these days. Thus, they must pursue only who they perceive as the manliest, so they don't seem so manly next to them. It all boils down to that. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Most of you guys who snivel about this idea should not mind even if it were true, since you believe that all men are inherently superior to all women anyway. Right? And, nobody is "entitled" to date … at all. Take a second to actually think about which posters say that men are superior to women. Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 We all have flaws. Some of us are short, and still others are flatfooted, have a funny nose, are missing a couple of fingers, or suffer from a similar physical defect. Most people don't let themselves be defined by such a defect. A few people do, and they internalize their defect to such an extent that their views of relationships become completely warped. Instead of accepting the flaw, they magnify it. Thus, they become increasingly emotionally invested in being short, and being physically flawed. At the same time they become increasingly blind to their other flaws. Whether that is poor social skills, being stuck in a low-end job, being overweight, having no interests etc.. Those other flaws can be addressed, but these people won't address their flaws, since it is hardly word bothering with since it does not take away the shortness / flat feet, or missing a couple of fingers. The eventual outcome is pretty much what your life is right now. How many posts have you made, in which you say that if you had been 6 or 8 inches taller, you would have had a happy relationship? You are not having luck with women, not because you are short, but because you are emotionally over-invested in being short. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Take a second to actually think about which posters say that men are superior to women. Um … I don't need to "take a second." I'm well versed about the regular characters of LoveShack and their stances. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 We all have flaws. Some of us are short, and still others are flatfooted, have a funny nose, are missing a couple of fingers, or suffer from a similar physical defect. Most people don't let themselves be defined by such a defect. A few people do, and they internalize their defect to such an extent that their views of relationships become completely warped. Instead of accepting the flaw, they magnify it. Thus, they become increasingly emotionally invested in being short, and being physically flawed. At the same time they become increasingly blind to their other flaws. Whether that is poor social skills, being stuck in a low-end job, being overweight, having no interests etc.. Those other flaws can be addressed, but these people won't address their flaws, since it is hardly word bothering with since it does not take away the shortness / flat feet, or missing a couple of fingers. The eventual outcome is pretty much what your life is right now. How many posts have you made, in which you say that if you had been 6 or 8 inches taller, you would have had a happy relationship? You are not having luck with women, not because you are short, but because you are emotionally over-invested in being short. Hell I wasn't even talking about being flawed. I'm just a normal, average guy who wants a normal, average girl. But for some reason, normal guys aren't good enough for those girls. She wants somebody better, basically what HallowedBeThyName said. Um … I don't need to "take a second." I'm well versed about the regular characters of LoveShack and their stances. Then you should have listed names instead of saying "Most of you guys." And that was in reference to post that quoted one of mine, so it seems that you included me in that statement as well; which is something that I have never said. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HallowedBeThyName Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Hell I wasn't even talking about being flawed. I'm just a normal, average guy who wants a normal, average girl. But for some reason, normal guys aren't good enough for those girls. She wants somebody better, basically what HallowedBeThyName said. Yea that's just society for you a girl who works at a decent job making 70 grand wants a White Collar Worker who makes 120 grand. Girls, from the day they were born, are pounded the idea that their future partner has to be better than her in nearly every way or it won't work Although I think this extends to men a little bit too. A lot of avg and chubby men out there who expect to get a much younger and much more attractive mate just because Hollywood told them that all men should date beautiful women. The point is I think we should all be more reasonable with our standards. If you're not making a 100 grand yourself and you're not interesting, then you don't deserve a well off man who is interesting. If you're not in shape and look good, then you don't deserve a woman like that either. People should date within their own leagues Edited May 22, 2012 by HallowedBeThyName Link to post Share on other sites
d'Arthez Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Hell I wasn't even talking about being flawed. You were not. But it is obvious from your other posts that you let yourself be defined by this particular flaw. Just because you don't express it in all your posts, does not mean it is not part of your psychological makeup. I'm just a normal, average guy who wants a normal, average girl. But for some reason, normal guys aren't good enough for those girls. She wants somebody better, basically what HallowedBeThyName said. Just because you think you are a "normal, average guy", does not mean you come across as a "normal, average guy" in real life, let alone mean that you are an actual "normal, average guy". This is not meant as a flame, just a reminder that self-perception does not necessarily equal reality. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) ys have to show alpha male traits Gals also have expectations and demands on them mainly dealing with their appearance to the extent that it often seems the meme is guy= human being & gal = attractive thing. My experiences vastly differ from gals just have to be not fat and they'll have 10 guys ready to date them. Most guys seem to have facial features, breast size, hair length, age, and body shape requirements or preferences. From my experiences most gals that aren't fat have guys ready to have sex with them or hang out depending on their face. The above average and attractive gals generally have guys in the double digits ready to date them. In the case of guys get lucky if they get 5 numbers out of 200 gals it's quality over quantity to me. I think the guy is likely to be the winner than gals who get 40 numbers out of 120 guys if the gal is interested in a committed relationship or relationship leading to marriage. To me life can be worth it if gals and society only need you for utilitarian purposes if one doesn't base their worth or existence on gals and society's value of you. As long as gals and society's utilitarian purposes aren't legally mandated I'm not seeing an existence issue. That disposable feeling you get around the opposite sex in general is not exclusive to the male gender. Most gals I know have felt like disposable sex objects since they hit puberty. The feeling increasing with guys creating movements such as anti-American gal and anti-marriage. Look at your thread creation history it's often implying how useless, worthless, or less than gals are. I've seen it so many times when a guy is sick of his gender role in the world of dating ALL women discard his existence while other men punish him for it By punish do you mean negatively comment about his decision? Different experiences as I haven't seen or heard of other guys punishing a guy for being sick of his gender role. My experiences have been their is usually a comradery, talk of how gals want their cake & to eat it too when it comes to gender roles, and how guys have it harder. There's even movements where guys can bemoan how they are trapped in their gender roles that are much harder than gal's and how they are far more objectified and viewed as more expandable than gals. Edited May 22, 2012 by udolipixie Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Many men might be anti-marriage these days but feminists have a history of trashing marriage as well. This goes both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I think deep down you and Negative Nancy are psychic twins and should run off together and combine to make one completely negative person. No offense whatsoever to her but can you really picture two people like that having a happy relationship? Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 And that was in reference to post that quoted one of mine, so it seems that you included me in that statement as well; which is something that I have never said. You seem to like posts that do say such things. The women who are hung up about being too tall, or being too short, or having brown/blonde/red hair, or because they have a low-paying job don't realize that they are really inferior because they're women. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Women just have to be healthy looking (As in not being fat). They don't even need to be that. I regularly see healthy guys with morbidly obese women. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Many men might be anti-marriage these days but feminists have a history of trashing marriage as well. This goes both ways. If this is reference to me nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that trashing marriage doesn't go both ways. Though from my experiences anti-marriage movements tend to bash gals particularly American gals while feminists tend to trash the institution. Anti-marriage movement: Gals are useless gold digger slutty skanks who use marriage which is essentially legalized prostitution of lesser quality to leech off of a guy and bleed him dry before taking all his money and his kids. Give gals the husband they deserve- none. Quite telling the focus doesn't seem to be on unjust patriarchal custody/divorce laws or increasing divorces but the meme of gals are awful. Feminism: Marriage is a transactional property ownership that regulates a gal to the inferior position Edited May 22, 2012 by udolipixie Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 If this is reference to me nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that trashing marriage doesn't go both ways. Though from my experiences anti-marriage movements tend to bash gals particularly American gals while feminists tend to trash the institution. Anti-marriage movement: Gals are useless gold digger slutty skanks who use marriage which is essentially legalized prostitution of lesser quality to leech off of a guy and bleed him dry before taking all his money and his kids. Give gals the husband they deserve- none. Feminism: Marriage is a transactional property ownership that regulates a gal to the inferior position This is really getting into semantics. Go on most feminist boards and all you hear about is how men are nothing but a burden and that we are just another child to take care of and how we add nothing positive to a woman's life. It's same exact thing as the MRAs. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 This is really getting into semantics. Go on most feminist boards and all you hear about is how men are nothing but a burden and that we are just another child to take care of and how we add nothing positive to a woman's life. It's same exact thing as the MRAs. That's just women venting. All women say the same thing yet I don't see them boycotting the boys. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 That's just women venting. All women say the same thing yet I don't see them boycotting the boys. Yes they do. We have a 50% divorce rate and 75% of divorces are initiated by women. For all the talk over how much women fear being dumped for a younger model the more likely scenario is her dumping a heartbroken man who thought he had a good marriage. It's hilarious to constantly hear how women don't need men and how miserable it is to be in a committed relationship with us then in the next breath they complain about how men won't commit and how we just want to sleep around. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 This is really getting into semantics. Go on most feminist boards and all you hear about is how men are nothing but a burden and that we are just another child to take care of and how we add nothing positive to a woman's life. It's same exact thing as the MRAs. How is it semantics? It's stating that if your post was in I didn't state, imply, or suggest that it doesn't go both ways as I'm unaware why you'd tell me something when I didn't say otherwise. It's my experiences showing anti-marriage guys tend to bash gals rather than trash the institution. Semantics to me would be the same exact thing as MRAs is behow gals are nothing but a burden and add nothing positive to a guy's life as that's relationship dynamics rather the anti-marriage and often MRA meme of more how useless, worthless, and less than gals are AND how what an unfavorable disadvantage marriage is for guys. One is generalization on relationship dynamics and one is generalization on gender. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'll agree women are the first to want a commitment and the first to want out of a commitment typically. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Yes they do. We have a 50% divorce rate and 75% of divorces are initiated by women. For all the talk over how much women fear being dumped for a younger model the more likely scenario is her dumping a heartbroken man who thought he had a good marriage. How is gals generally initiating divorces in heterosexual marriages the same as boycotting guys? To me that's failed marriages not abstaining from marrying guys. To you is a guy breaking up with his girlfriend boycotting gals? Link to post Share on other sites
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