johan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Because bold capital letters are fun and your reaction to them further illustrates how you are taking the internet too seriously. I don't see what's fun about them. They are used for emphasis when you get emotional about something like you did. Because you were taking my post too seriously. If you didn't take it seriously, you wouldn't have tried to correct me. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 This thread is clearly meant to be inflammatory but I'm going to chime in anyway with my own thoughts...... I know people of both genders who have been cheated on. I was in fact privy to one situation where my good friend cheated on his friend with his fiancé. There are a variety of reasons within that relationship as to why it would happen (this guy cheated himself - I don't condone though). But it's certainly not just the letting go of ones physique in what I have observed. Much is to be said about sexual confidence, a confidence that you know you will be able to rock her world, or simply that you are intuitive to her desires, from a physical, emotional and mental sense. If that means being fit, then by all means, the man should be healthy. But 2 things: 1) so should the woman if this is what she wants 2) his fitness is not the be all and end all of his attractiveness Being able to respond emotionally is still crucial to female sexuality, but also to understand how non verbal language as well as spoken language can be used to seduce her mind. I know guys who do this on a very subtle level without realising it (not PUAs lol), and it's interesting to observe them. It's like foreplay without touching! These are things that quite a few guys don't know and some don't even bother trying to find out. Sometimes they don't need to, they find that girl that they respond to like that naturally. However, some guys do all the legwork in the beginning and get lazy in the relationship, and never maintain, hence why they may sometimes get cheated on. BUT I'm gonna flip it now and address the women, who themselves may demand all of this connection, but refuse to meet the man halfway. There are many women who expect the man to do all of this, yet they don't really do anything to really deserve it from the man. It might be a consequence of his neglect, but sometimes it really isn't. If it's a compatibility issue, then the losses should have been cut upon realisation. You also have to ignite his sexuality hence he responds to yours. I don't condone all that cheating. Tell your friends to stop that. Raise the issue with your SO, communicate. Or just leave him so that he can find a woman who will communicate with him. Note: I'm not actually addressing anyone here in particular but in general responding to the tone of the OP. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I don't see what's fun about them. They are used for emphasis when you get emotional about something like you did. Because you were taking my post too seriously. If you didn't take it seriously, you wouldn't have tried to correct me. Internet is serious business is an ironic meme that's always in capitals that I turned around to use in a literal sense because you have no sense of humor. Lighten up. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I hope it's be a troll because this is the kind of stuff that just smacks me back to square one when I think I am getting over the bitterness. Link to post Share on other sites
wordrock Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 No it isn't. Beautiful hearts are all around, they just come in packages that men don't necessarily like. Are you referring to physical attractiveness? There are certainly other things that have nothing to do with looks that turn a lot of people off. The woman I'm seeing right now certainly has boxes and boxes of baggage, but she's a good honest person which is far more important to me than her past. On the other hand, life has taught me that a selfish person with a bad attitude who has a seemingly perfect past does not a good person make. I've had to learn the hard way. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 It's not a myth. There are women of all shapes and sizes who have nice personalities and are good people. I've dated many women and known their friends. From Texas and Colorado, Russia, Bangladesh, from all over the place. Pretty women have good hearts and so do unattractive women. and I believe no one has a good heart except a tiny minority I theorize lives somewhere between fantasyland and Christmas Island. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AD1980 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I've slept with a few unfaithful women, but I did not know until after the fact. I would never have a real relationship with any of them, although they've tried to convince me otherwise. Honesty and integrity is something I specifically look for in a partner. There are a lot of attractive women out there, but a good heart is hard to find. Problem is sometimes you think you're with a person of integrity and thigns still go wrong My friend waked in his room and found his wife in bed with another guy and later found out shed been going out with that guy for over a year.. This girl he married seemed like the sweeest most innocent girl ever the fact that she could do it im now convinced anyone can under the right circumstances .. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
g450 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sometimes I wonder if I should just divorce my wife and become the man women cheat with before she pulls this crap on me. And you people wonder why I am so cynical. Amen to that. If all women were like the OP portrays then there is little hope for the sanctity of marriage or keeping a family together and healthy. On the brighter side, if my W were that much of a whore that her commitments to me, our marriange and our family took second place to her libido then I would tell her not to let the door hit her in the butt on the way out to sluttsville. But I honestly think most women are not that shallow and selfish. If you treat them right they will stay and be faithful. And most are smart enough to know that if they were tempted and strayed, the consequences of betrayal could be and most likely will be more than they will ever imagine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I hope it's be a troll because this is the kind of stuff that just smacks me back to square one when I think I am getting over the bitterness. The bitterness will never leave because you can never let go just as johan can't relax. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hell yeah, bring on the muscles! If I wanted fat and moobs, I'd go for a woman with a strapon. As a girl who is very visual, I totally agree with you. Sure, some women are more emotional blah blah, but a good percentage of us can appreciate a man for his great body. When I'm physically attracted to a guy I can't get my hands off him. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hell yeah, bring on the muscles! If I wanted fat and moobs, I'd go for a woman with a strapon. As a girl who is very visual, I totally agree with you. Sure, some women are more emotional blah blah, but a good percentage of us can appreciate a man for his great body. When I'm physically attracted to a guy I can't get my hands off him. Please stop touching me Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Amen to that. If all women were like the OP portrays then there is little hope for the sanctity of marriage or keeping a family together and healthy. On the brighter side, if my W were that much of a whore that her commitments to me, our marriange and our family took second place to her libido then I would tell her not to let the door hit her in the butt on the way out to sluttsville. But I honestly think most women are not that shallow and selfish. If you treat them right they will stay and be faithful. And most are smart enough to know that if they were tempted and strayed, the consequences of betrayal could be and most likely will be more than they will ever imagine. when men are like that, it's nature. When women are like that it's being shallow and selfish. It's not that hard, just try to stay in a good shape so women want to rip your clothes off. Is it too much to ask? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 when men are like that, it's nature. When women are like that it's being shallow and selfish. It's not that hard, just try to stay in a good shape so women want to rip your clothes off. Is it too much to ask? I never tried to defend it as a man's nature but I am getting to the point where I figure she is probably cheating on him anyway so why not. I never thought I would get to this point but here I am. Link to post Share on other sites
Content Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I never tried to defend it as a man's nature but I am getting to the point where I figure she is probably cheating on him anyway so why not. I never thought I would get to this point but here I am. Theyre's tons of good women out there woggle,you cant judge by sites like these where most people are not emotionally healthy or stable,theres reason they cant find a partner 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Theyre's tons of good women out there woggle,you cant judge by sites like these where most people are not emotionally healthy or stable,theres reason they cant find a partner So how come no women came in this thread to disagree with the OP? In a way I sort of respect the honesty instead of getting all these lectures about porn and strip clubs when she is out screwing her man's best friend. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wordrock Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Problem is sometimes you think you're with a person of integrity and thigns still go wrong My friend waked in his room and found his wife in bed with another guy and later found out shed been going out with that guy for over a year.. This girl he married seemed like the sweeest most innocent girl ever the fact that she could do it im now convinced anyone can under the right circumstances .. I don't make assumptions about people like that. I did when I was younger and learned what happens when you idolize someone due to attachment. You'll see what you want to see. It's not accurate to generalize all people as being just as likely to make the same choices. Some of us are more predisposed to do things than others. I have female friends that aren't interested in monogamy. I have some that want and practice only that, yet have been hurt horribly by the wrong person. Some people are more prone to attachment than others. There have been many studies in this regard dealing with various hormones, such as oxytocin and vasopressin. You might consider reading up on that a bit. When I was younger I used to think "How can I get this girl to sleep with/like/want me?". Now it's: "Is this person right for me?". You can't change someone and there's only so much you can compromise. Now, I find out for myself based on what's important in their life, how they treat others (literally anyone and everyone), and how well they communicate those things. This is what I mean by a 'good heart'. Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I never tried to defend it as a man's nature but I am getting to the point where I figure she is probably cheating on him anyway so why not. I never thought I would get to this point but here I am. I'm not defending cheating...Cheaters are immoral and want to have their cake and eat it too. I love a man with a yummy body but I would never ever cheat. I don't think the OP is trying to defend cheating either. She is just trying to tell men that being visually attractive and taking care of your appearance matters! Link to post Share on other sites
january2011 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 So how come no women came in this thread to disagree with the OP? I disagreed with the OP. Last time I checked, I'm a woman. Link to post Share on other sites
LittlePrince Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 So how come no women came in this thread to disagree with the OP? In a way I sort of respect the honesty instead of getting all these lectures about porn and strip clubs when she is out screwing her man's best friend. Because the kind of people who come here are cracked. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I disagreed with the OP. Last time I checked, I'm a woman. Well maybe but I bet when I check this thread tomorrow you will be outnumbered. Link to post Share on other sites
ja123 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 So how come no women came in this thread to disagree with the OP? In a way I sort of respect the honesty instead of getting all these lectures about porn and strip clubs when she is out screwing her man's best friend. Some of us did! E.g.: While I agree that women can be visually stimulated, I think there's a big difference between acknowledging that someone is visually hot (even if it's only to oneself) and actually sleeping with them, thereby cheating on your current partner. Having sexual fantasies about people you know and regularly hang out with is a big grey area, in my opinion. If I were to do that, it suggests that there's something missing in my current relationship. And rather than allow myself to get into a cheating situation, I'd want to fix whatever it is that's missing with my partner. I'm a woman. And I have to say, though it's natural to feel attracted to other people (no matter what your sex) ... but, I do not condone cheating. I don't like the deceit that is involved. I think that if something in the relationship isn't working ... whether it's your partner's physique (or your own), or if it's that you've let things slide and allowed exterior pressures to damage the fundamental feelings between two people (essentially poor management), then it is better, right, and just to look at fixing those things ... ... if too much water has gone under the proverbial bridge, or if one of the two partners doesn't want to work at it (it takes two), then it's better to consider making a break. Though I realize there may be other factors, such as children, and things are not black and white .... ... but still ... ending up cheating just for the thrill? Where's the spiriual growth in that? It's a cop out, IMO, to just blame it on one person ... use your own agenda and rationalize that somehow you are entitled to cheat ... use deplacement and just one-sidedly blame the other person. Grow up, people! Is this post by a Troll???!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThaWholigan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Well maybe but I bet when I check this thread tomorrow you will be outnumbered. I doubt anyone is going to come in here and defend cheating. I think they weren't relaly condoning the cheating, but more with the idea that they actually like men who are fit and keep their body in good shape. At least that's what I gleaned. Anyway, nobody should be cheating 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I doubt anyone is going to come in here and defend cheating. I think they weren't relaly condoning the cheating, but more with the idea that they actually like men who are fit and keep their body in good shape. At least that's what I gleaned. Anyway, nobody should be cheating Exactly. Woggle always interpret things in a way that makes him bitter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
january2011 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Well maybe but I bet when I check this thread tomorrow you will be outnumbered. I agree that it's highly unlikely anyone is going to come into this thread to condone cheating. They might come in and say that it happens, but I doubt they'd defend it. Link to post Share on other sites
udolipixie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I think gals are cheating because they want to and can. I highly doubt guys have ever understood female sexuality or want to. It's likely that cheating didn't result in the past becaus historically the guy was her financial survival. I think most guys prefer gals as emotional creatures rather than visual as that may be a hindrance in getting a gal who is more attractive than him. Link to post Share on other sites
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