Why Do Girls Look Down on Guys That Live With Their Parents Around the Ages of 22-27?

[dasein]

People have given their reasonings --

 

What you and others have done is offered undue character assessments based on bad factual assertions.

 

Obviously, it cannot be case specific unless we're dealing with a specific case.

 

Facile. The thread has been 95% raw, baseless character assessments, and 5% acknowledging that specific cases should be analyzed specifically.

 

the environmental argument

 

You got nothing here, yet you persist. One roof is generally cheaper than two. The end.

 

There is no way to factually invalidate arguments like, "We can't have wild sex at his Mama's house" and "He hasn't chosen to deal with bills and problems on his own without the help of his parents."

 

Those assertions have been made as general, broadly applicable factual and character assertions in the thread, not specific experiences in specific context. You are trying to switch horses here, sorry no. I would have no quarrel with "If living at home meant less sex in a specific situation, then that would be a turnoff." That's not how the sex issue was offered, though, but rather as a universal.

 

Again, the "caring for material things" is directed specifically at the OP who continuously says what a waste of money apartments are and that he'd rather squirrel his money for a house than have the experiences and independence that come with an apartment.

 

Moving into an apartment is also an expression of materialism, moreso than staying at home. But you must really think I'm an idiot, as if some "independence fairy" sprinkles "independence dust" on you the minute you sign a lease? I know better.

 

He's also said he prefers the comfort of his family home, which is better than he can afford. That's not going to apply to EVERY guy who lives at home, but it applies to the OP and premise of the thread. I would sacrifice money for experiences any day of the week and have --- and experiences are what you lose out on by saving money living with Mommy and Daddy.

 

The quality of one's experiences, the maturing process, and the ability to handle the world and learn from one's mistakes has nothing to do with signing a lease either. IME, moving out early is mostly a function of rebellion and wanting to do things "Mommy and Daddy" wouldn't allow under their roof. It's a wash whether participating in those kinds of things is "independence" or "quality life experiences" or better avoided altogether. (see now that would be a prejudice on my part if I ascribed it generally to those who choose to move out).

 

Moreover, citing OP for comfort seeking by someone seeking the obvious comfort and freedom of moving out rings just as hollow now as when it was introduced in the thread. But I suppose there are all different kinds of comfort, and the kinds you want to pursue are admirable whereas the ones OP wants to pursue are negative somehow?

[HallowedBeThyName]

Egh I think it's based on more whether they live at home or have an apartment than as some stated it's about the person being financially independent and paying the bills for their own place. I think some gals already realize not living at home doesn't automatically mean you're self-sufficient as there's bit about paying your bills with your own money. It doesn't really take an interrogration from my experiences as many gals I know asked one question, got her answer, and bailed out.

 

 

 

Asked what question? You're going to meet a man and you're gonna ask him before you start dating whether or not his dad helped him out on tuition in college? What kind of a socially retarded individual would ask a question like that? What if he tells you no and he's really lying? Are you going to ask to see his financial statements and bank accounts to make sure?

 

 

What if a man says that he pays for his apartment and he's really lying, his dad pays for it? Are you going to ask to see his bank accounts to make sure?

 

 

What about people who go to a prestigious school for something like pharmacy and simply can't move out until they're 25-26 because their college costs an unbelievable sum? Do you advocate that individual going in 50 grand debt just to live up to your idea of what a man should be like?

 

 

When does the nonsense end?

[Janesays]

For the record, I moved out of my home at a very young age. I lived within my own means, managed my money well (making sacrifices when needed), paid my debts, bought my own properties, saved for retirement, etc, etc, etc....all without the help of my parents.

 

A person who is truly good with money doesn't need to depend on someone else to pay their bills. They just don't buy things they can't afford. For example, I didn't have cable tv or a cell phone before I could afford it. Now, I can do or have pretty much anything I want.

[HallowedBeThyName]

For the record, I moved out of my home at a very young age. I lived within my own means, managed my money well (making sacrifices when needed), paid my debts, bought my own properties, saved for retirement, etc, etc, etc....all without the help of my parents.

 

A person who is truly good with money doesn't need to depend on someone else to pay their bills. They just don't buy things they can't afford. For example, I didn't have cable tv or a cell phone before I could afford it. Now, I can do or have pretty much anything I want.

 

 

 

For the record, the costs of university are astronomical nowadays

 

 

You're going to look down on an individual living at home to pay off say 50 grand a year for something like pharmacy or you would advocate him going in 50 grand in debt to live up to your idea of what a man should be like?

 

 

Even in my situation, there's something negative about thinking about my long term financial well being and financial health? Saving money to invest and for the other opportunities is the single greatest difference between the top 1% and the 99%. I'm supposed to be okay with people telling me that my smart financially based mindset is something that is undesirable and makes me less of a self sustaining adult?

 

 

 

If you don't want to date me, I don't give a sh*t. Telling me that I'm less of a self sustaining adult because I'm thinking about the long term absolutely infuriates me

[zengirl]

1)We can't have wild sex at his momma's house: Living with your parents isn't a whole lot different than living with a roommate/roommates, which is what you people are advocating. You can't have wild loud sex with a roommate next door either. You do the same thing in both situations - have sex when one of the 2 parties (either you or your mate) don't have anybody over. Okay so that's complete nonsense

 

That wasn't my reason but it was a reason. Some things: First of all, out of respect for my elders (which some of us still have), I am NEVER going to have sex with a man in his family home. Never ever. I will totally -- and have -- have sex with a guy if his roommates are home. Hell, I don't even care if they hear us, though I will be generally considerate of them for noise, etc. I would be mortified if someone's parents heard us having sex or even had any indication we had while they were present.

 

Additionally, parents and couples are typically always home, whereas roommates are often at their BF/GF's house or out at night, etc. Not always, of course, perhaps both your parents work nights. At any rate, even if they aren't home, I'm not having sex or even making out in some guy's parent's house. That's creepy.

 

2)You complain that a person living at home is doing so for maximum comfort...well didn't you just say that you want to date a man who has an apartment so you can have loud wild sex? Isn't that comfort? More nonsense and hypocrisy

 

As I said, the loud sex wasn't my reason; it was a reason someone else had given. Anyway, with the max comfort that's specifically on what you've said: You don't want to move to a potentially less comfortable situation. You actually SAID that and argued about it. The big, comfy home is important to you. Someone who'd stay at home, with their parents, and not feel the need to move on and go somewhere because they're comfortable simply has nothing in common with me, in terms of mindset. Staying somewhere because it's comfortable, and trading some independence and so many life experiences for a little material comfort? It seems really sad to me. That doesn't mean there's anything "wrong" with it --- but it's not my cuppa and I don't want someone with that attitude as a mate. Many ladies agree apparently.

 

3)A person living at home isn't independent. Lots and lots of guys I know live in apartments and houses owned by their parents.

 

Then those people aren't independent either. I don't know many people like that, but I don't live in the awful city you seem to live in that is filled with so many rich people (I don't get how a large city COULD be -- all large cities have several classes, not just rich people in them) and nobody else. That sounds tedious to me, as I don't really like trust fundies, etc, unless they have attitudes more like regular people (some do--as I said my best friend is a trustie, but you'd never know it and she only donates the money).

 

Lots of people I know get help to pay their rent from their parents. Are you going to ask out a guy you started dating his exact economics in terms of how he pays his mortgage/rent? Or let me guess, you're gonna fall in love with him and then break up with him the second he tells you that his dad helps with the rent right? More nonsense

 

You can tell a person's values and such pretty easily, especially if you are seriously dating for marriage. I've never come across this problem. Nor do I know many people who didn't have to make their own way in the world and receive such family support. Apparently it's the norm where you live, and you're competing with rich boys. That's not my social circle or my experience. Where I live, and the people I know, we come from normal families who don't have the money to pay their kids' rent anyway.

 

4)A guy living at an apartment is at a different lifestage. Boy where do I start with this. The notion that somebody living in a remote location away from his family somehow radically changes him as a person has gotta be the most laughable notion I have ever heard. I know guys who have alternated between apartments and living at home 3 or 4 times in their 20s. Are these guys alternating between different lifestages? Boom you go back home and you're no longer a developed, self sustaining adult, you go back to an apartment and boom, right away you're a respectable adult again. Is this your nonsensical logic? Are we really defining people based on such petty superficial traits?

 

A man who doesn't prioritize his independence and who doesn't manage ALL his financial responsibilities himself is in a different life stage from me, yes. This includes the trusties you mention AND the guys living at home. And, no moving out ON ITS OWN is not an indicator that a guy is LTR material, etc, etc, but living at home is an indicator that he is not. It's not like a yes/no question. It's a no/maybe. No, he is not independent living at home. Maybe he is independent not living at home. Get it?

 

5)A person living at home, saving up money and paying off loans is somehow an undesirable trait.

 

For those of us who prioritize our independence and experiences we've had outside the home, yes, it's undesirable. That's not everyone, surely. Some women live at home too! But that's some of us saying: "No, I'd never do that, so I don't want to date anyone who would." How is that so hard to understand?

 

People will judge you and rule you out for jobs, relationships, friendships, and so on, for many, many, many reasons, throughout your entire life. Get used to it.

 

Definitely true.

[dasein]

I don't want or intend to start a thread about your opinion

 

Stopped there. If you want to discuss my posting habits and supposed cross-thread inconsistencies, do so in another thread instead of continuing prattling off topic here.

[ThaWholigan]

I don't understand how this thread has gone on for so long now.

 

People will judge you and rule you out for jobs, relationships, friendships, and so on, for many, many, many reasons, throughout your entire life. Get used to it.

 

This pretty much sums everything up, as does Green Light's post.

[zengirl]

You got nothing here, yet you persist. One roof is generally cheaper than two. The end.

 

I live in an apartment. There are 8 units under one roof. The end.

 

Oh, wait, not the end: The apartment buildings here are FAR more insulated and newly built and eco-savvy than most of the family housing. I've lived in a house with 3 people and now live in an apartment with 2. Per person, our utilities are HALF what they were in my last house. Per person, my utilities are less than 1/6 of what my parents pay in a similar climate per person.

 

As to all your other statements, it's clear you are not interested in any logic or reasoning unless it suits your POV, but that's part for the course with your posts.

 

Those assertions have been made as general, broadly applicable factual and character assertions in the thread, not specific experiences in specific context. You are trying to switch horses here, sorry no. I would have no quarrel with "If living at home meant less sex in a specific situation, then that would be a turnoff." That's not how the sex issue was offered, though, but rather as a universal.

 

No, I stated various reasons someone could live at home and stated what I thought of each one (the sex is not actually my issue etc, but someone living at home would ALWAYS mean no sex at his place to me -- I'll never have sex where my fella's Momma lives, that's uncouth; end-stop) and why it would deter me, personally, as I thought at the beginning the OP actually wanted input on someone's perspectives. Clearly he does not, at this point, but c'est la vie, that's LS. No one ever wants to know WHY others think as they do; they just want to be mad about it.

 

Moving into an apartment is also an expression of materialism, moreso than staying at home. But you must really think I'm an idiot, as if some "independence fairy" sprinkles "independence dust" on you the minute you sign a lease? I know better.

 

Did I say that it automatically meant independence? Because I'm pretty sure I've said repeatedly throughout this thread that it does not BUT that NOT doing it means no independence at all. Nor does moving out always mean signing a lease anyway.

 

Moreover, citing OP for comfort seeking by someone seeking the obvious comfort and freedom of moving out rings just as hollow now as when it was introduced in the thread.

 

The OP introduced it into the thread, as a pro for living at home --- the comfort of the family home.

[HallowedBeThyName]

That wasn't my reason but it was a reason. Some things: First of all, out of respect for my elders (which some of us still have), I am NEVER going to have sex with a man in his family home. Never ever. I will totally -- and have -- have sex with a guy if his roommates are home. Hell, I don't even care if they hear us, though I will be generally considerate of them for noise, etc. I would be mortified if someone's parents heard us having sex or even had any indication we had while they were present.

 

Additionally, parents and couples are typically always home, whereas roommates are often at their BF/GF's house or out at night, etc. Not always, of course, perhaps both your parents work nights. At any rate, even if they aren't home, I'm not having sex or even making out in some guy's parent's house. That's creepy.

 

 

Zero logic presented here. My parents work a lot to pay for our living and they're often traveling. There are huge portions of the week where we can have sex at my place with no issues. I guarantee you it's no different than the average person who has a roommate

 

 

 

As I said, the loud sex wasn't my reason; it was a reason someone else had given. Anyway, with the max comfort that's specifically on what you've said: You don't want to move to a potentially less comfortable situation. You actually SAID that and argued about it. The big, comfy home is important to you. Someone who'd stay at home, with their parents, and not feel the need to move on and go somewhere because they're comfortable simply has nothing in common with me, in terms of mindset. Staying somewhere because it's comfortable, and trading some independence and so many life experiences for a little material comfort? It seems really sad to me. That doesn't mean there's anything "wrong" with it --- but it's not my cuppa and I don't want someone with that attitude as a mate. Many ladies agree apparently.

 

 

So my comforts of saving money, living close to my family who I love and having a luxurious living space are negative but your comforts of wanting to have your own place, do what you want and have loud sex are positive?

 

 

more hypocrisy and nonsense

 

 

Then those people aren't independent either. I don't know many people like that, but I don't live in the awful city you seem to live in that is filled with so many rich people (I don't get how a large city COULD be -- all large cities have several classes, not just rich people in them) and nobody else. That sounds tedious to me, as I don't really like trust fundies, etc, unless they have attitudes more like regular people (some do--as I said my best friend is a trustie, but you'd never know it and she only donates the money).

 

 

Go to any high level university and you will see exactly the same things

 

 

 

I live in a city where the income is 140,000 and there are a ton of kids who get huge assistance from their parents. I see it a ton at my university as well

 

 

 

if you want to know whether a person is independent, ask to see his financial statements and bank accounts. For all you know a guy could be getting help from his daddy and not telling you about it. Of course this is some sort of a grave crime right to have your family members help you out?

 

 

A man who doesn't prioritize his independence and who doesn't manage ALL his financial responsibilities himself is in a different life stage from me, yes. This includes the trusties you mention AND the guys living at home. And, no moving out ON ITS OWN is not an indicator that a guy is LTR material, etc, etc, but living at home is an indicator that he is not. It's not like a yes/no question. It's a no/maybe. No, he is not independent living at home. Maybe he is independent not living at home. Get it?

 

 

 

What about the people who go to high end schools and have huge tuitions? Do you even understand what tuitions costs are nowadays?

 

 

Is a man automatically not dating material because he goes to law school and it's much cheaper for him to pay the 30,000 a year for tuition while living at home than get an apartment and continue to pile up debt? Does he automatically become more desirable to you when he does get an apartment and has about a 100,000 in debt cause he just can't afford his bills?

 

 

Do you even understand how much apartments cost here?

Edited May 24, 2012 by HallowedBeThyName

[HallowedBeThyName]

zengirl one more thing I wanted to add here is that I have no problem with your preferences. I have a problem with you claiming your preferences are based on something factual and they're really not

 

 

 

They're not based on anything factual/logic. It's just what you believe, that's it. Stop judging me and others for thinking about our financial well being and taking the steps to have a healthy future

[Janesays]

For the record, the costs of university are astronomical nowadays

 

For the record, it was astronomical in my day, too. I'm not that old. Early 30's. I'm just a very, very, VERY hard worker.

 

You're going to look down on an individual living at home to pay off say 50 grand a year for something like pharmacy or you would advocate him going in 50 grand in debt to live up to your idea of what a man should be like?

 

No, I'd advocate him learning how to budget his money effectively so he doesn't bite off more than he can chew debt wise. I worked my way through college. Why can't you?

 

Even in my situation, there's something negative about thinking about my long term financial well being and financial health? Saving money to invest and for the other opportunities is the single greatest difference between the top 1% and the 99%. I'm supposed to be okay with people telling me that my smart financially based mindset is something that is undesirable and makes me less of a self sustaining adult?

 

Please. Due to my investments, I made enough money to feasibly retire by the age of 26. Got bored after a year or so and went back to work. However did I did? I'll tell you how, I worked hard, made sacrifices, and managed my money well.

 

This isn't rocket science. It's call being frugal.

 

 

If you don't want to date me, I don't give a sh*t. Telling me that I'm less of a self sustaining adult because I'm thinking about the long term absolutely infuriates me

 

I think long term as well. However, I don't need to factor in a 'crutch' when I'm thinking long term.

[Emilia]

I think in many cases if someone lives at home as an adult it smacks of a sense of entitlement and the inability to take life on fully alone. Relying on yourself fully OP does change you significantly. What bothers me about this parental dependence is that the money issue is just an excuse. It's hard to respect someone 25+ who is unable to cope with life on his or her own.

[udolipixie]

Asked what question? You're going to meet a man and you're gonna ask him before you start dating whether or not his dad helped him out on tuition in college? What kind of a socially retarded individual would ask a question like that? What if he tells you no and he's really lying? Are you going to ask to see his financial statements and bank accounts to make sure?

 

What if a man says that he pays for his apartment and he's really lying, his dad pays for it? Are you going to ask to see his bank accounts to make sure?

 

What about people who go to a prestigious school for something like pharmacy and simply can't move out until they're 25-26 because their college costs an unbelievable sum? Do you advocate that individual going in 50 grand debt just to live up to your idea of what a man should be like?

 

When does the nonsense end?

 

The question of his living situation and finances and to answer your questions it's usually asked before dating as it's dating criteria and some gals either social proof, take it by faith, or get them statements outs.

 

A guy saying he pays for his apartment and he's really lying is a very unlikely to happen to me considering my social circle. It has happened to many others one used it as justificiation to sleep with his younger brother.

 

The people who go to a prestigious school and simply can't move out make their choice of living arrangement. No I don't advocate people acting to suit my preferences. Quite unsure why you're asking me about what about them and if I advocate this as I didn't make any statements, suggestions, or implications about how others should live their lives.

 

As for when does the nonsense end do you mean when do gals start having preferences you want them to? This seems to no longer be able assumed character traits.

[dasein]

I live in an apartment. There are 8 units under one roof. The end.

 

Your parents' house is one roof, your apartment makes two, and with that simple math lesson, done with you.

[zengirl]

Zero logic presented here. My parents work a lot to pay for our living and they're often traveling. There are huge portions of the week where we can have sex at my place with no issues. I guarantee you it's no different than the average person who has a roommate

 

I would never have sex in someone's family home. Even if their parents were not there. It's considered disrespectful where I come from. Unless I were comfortable discussing sex with someone, I would not have sex in their home. I really don't care if a roommate or peer knows I'm having sex with my BF, but I'm not discussing sex with my MIL anytime soon! But again, sex was not the major issue I'd have with it. I'd certainly never spend the night in a man's family home, etc.

 

So my comforts of saving money, living close to my family who I love and having a luxurious living space are negative but your comforts of wanting to have your own place, do what you want and have loud sex are positive?

 

I don't care about loud sex, really, as I said. The 'comfort' thing is directly to a post you made -- you don't want to move out because it would be uncomfortable. You're not just creating comfort but AVOIDING discomfort. You don't get why this would be an issue because clearly we have different priorities. Why does it bother you?

 

It doesn't bother me -- I found my guy, I'm happy, I don't care if people want to live with their parents or not live with their parents, etc, etc. Why are people so damned bothered about other people's preferences?

 

more hypocrisy and nonsense

 

Not hypocrisy. I am not applying any standards to someone else I'd not apply to myself.

 

Go to any high level university and you will see exactly the same things

 

I have a Masters from a very expensive and prestigious university, and I haven't seen that. Sorry. Certainly I saw many privileged people who were handed loads of things in college, but we didn't hang out because they weren't my kinda people.

 

if you want to know whether a person is independent, ask to see his financial statements and bank accounts. For all you know a guy could be getting help from his daddy and not telling you about it. Of course this is some sort of a grave crime right to have your family members help you out?

 

Who said it was a crime? Anyway, I've never dated a guy whose family could AFFORD to pay his rent. My family maybe could afford to pay mine, but it's hard to think of that knowing how poor we once were. Perhaps it is your privileged mindset that makes it so different than mine.

 

What about the people who go to high end schools and have huge tuitions? Do you even understand what tuitions costs are nowadays?

 

I went to a high-end school for my Masters and my PhD because I got the funding I needed. I picked a lower-end school for my Bachelors to stay out of debt. Someone who incurs debt for a high-end school isn't my cuppa unless he knows he can balance it out with his OWN income, like my Hubby did. To each their own, but why bag on other people's preferences?

 

Is a man automatically not dating material because he goes to law school and it's much cheaper for him to pay the 30,000 a year for tuition while living at home than get an apartment and continue to pile up debt? Does he automatically become more desirable to you when he does get an apartment and has about a 100,000 in debt cause he just can't afford his bills?

 

I actually said if you're going to grad school or something I get why you live at home. Especially with law or medical school I'd get it --- however someone in law school or medical school is not a good dating prospect due to a lack of time anyway and because of the likelihood of moving after graduation, for work.

[zengirl]

Your parents' house is one roof, your apartment makes two, and with that simple math lesson, done with you.

 

That's some pretty bad math.

[udolipixie]

Stopped there. If you want to discuss my posting habits and supposed cross-thread inconsistencies, do so in another thread instead of continuing prattling off topic here.

 

I post commentary on your amusing behavior listing it as off-note. You're the one who chose to comment on it and create a dialogue. Then again chose to comment when I put end note. :lmao:

 

Final note.

[HallowedBeThyName]

For the record, it was astronomical in my day, too. I'm not that old. Early 30's. I'm just a very, very, VERY hard worker.

 

 

Look at tuition costs now compared to 10 years ago and tell me you don't see a huge difference. I see a big difference just compared to 3 years ago for god's sake

 

 

 

No, I'd advocate him learning how to budget his money effectively so he doesn't bite off more than he can chew debt wise. I worked my way through college. Why can't you?

 

 

His tuition costs for pharmacy school are something like 30-50 grand a year. How in the world is he going to afford that and pay for his car, cell phone bill AND apartment on top of that? He would be more of a man for you to take in extra 15-20 grand a year of needless debt?

 

 

He works 40 hours a week for god's sake in addition to going to school for a very very difficult degree and you're going to sit there and judge him?

 

 

Please. Due to my investments, I made enough money to feasibly retire by the age of 26. Got bored after a year or so and went back to work. However did I did? I'll tell you how, I worked hard, made sacrifices, and managed my money well.

 

This isn't rocket science. It's call being frugal.

 

 

If you made enough money to retire by 26, I have no idea what you could have been doing. At that age it would take you about 5-6 million dollars to retire here. What were you doing to be earning that sort of money?

 

 

 

I think long term as well. However, I don't need to factor in a 'crutch' when I'm thinking long term.

 

 

Living at home with my parents to get rid of debt and save up enough money to buy a house quickly to take advantage of a great real estate buyers market = crutch?? Oh lord oh lord oh lord

 

 

the level of idiocy and nonsense I'm reading in this thread burns my eyes

[udolipixie]

I'm supposed to be okay with people telling me that my smart financially based mindset is something that is undesirable and makes me less of a self sustaining adult?

 

If you don't want to date me, I don't give a sh*t. Telling me that I'm less of a self sustaining adult because I'm thinking about the long term absolutely infuriates me

I don't recall anyone saying you're supposed to feel this way or that way about what others tell you. The closest I gleamed was get used to people judging you. Probably best suited not to let others opinions have such a handle on your emotions with the exception of amusement.

Edited May 24, 2012 by udolipixie

[HallowedBeThyName]

I would never have sex in someone's family home. Even if their parents were not there. It's considered disrespectful where I come from. Unless I were comfortable discussing sex with someone, I would not have sex in their home. I really don't care if a roommate or peer knows I'm having sex with my BF, but I'm not discussing sex with my MIL anytime soon! But again, sex was not the major issue I'd have with it. I'd certainly never spend the night in a man's family home, etc.

 

 

Cool this is a preference, it's not based on anything logical/factual

 

 

If you would just say your entire preference is not based on anything factual/logical. We would have no issues

 

 

 

I don't care about loud sex, really, as I said. The 'comfort' thing is directly to a post you made -- you don't want to move out because it would be uncomfortable. You're not just creating comfort but AVOIDING discomfort. You don't get why this would be an issue because clearly we have different priorities.

 

Not hypocrisy. I am not applying any standards to someone else I'd not apply to myself.

 

 

It is hypocrisy because my comforts of wanting to save money and live at home with my parents who I love in our big beautiful house is somehow negative yet your comforts of wanting to live by yourself and have 100% freedom are positive?

 

 

That's hypocrisy. One comfort isn't inherently better than another

 

 

 

I have a Masters from a very expensive and prestigious university, and I haven't seen that. Sorry. Certainly I saw many privileged people who were handed loads of things in college, but we didn't hang out because they weren't my kinda people.

 

 

Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I see all the time and it's a very real part of any upscale university you go to

[Janesays]

His tuition costs for pharmacy school are something like 30-50 grand a year. How in the world is he going to afford that and pay for his car, cell phone bill AND apartment on top of that? He would be more of a man for you to take in extra 15-20 grand a year of needless debt?

 

If he can't afford a car and a cell phone, he probably shouldn't have a car and a cell phone. I didn't. I took the bus or biked to work. People got a hold of me the old fashioned way.

 

If you made enough money to retire by 26, I have no idea what you could have been doing. At that age it would take you about 5-6 million dollars to retire here. What were you doing to be earning that sort of money?

 

I'm a ethologist. But, in the beginning, instead of spending my money on luxury items, I invested it. I invested in real estate, mutual funds, stocks, a couple of bonds. And I did well. Like I said, I didn't have a nice car or a cell phone for quite awhile, but I did have a pretty nice retirement fund.

 

Priorities, baby.

 

Living at home with my parents to get rid of debt and save up enough money to buy a house quickly to take advantage of a great real estate buyers market = crutch?? Oh lord oh lord oh lord

 

 

the level of idiocy and nonsense I'm reading in this thread burns my eyes

 

Methinks the one who has to resort to name calling in a debate to get his point across MAY not be the brightest one in the bunch. *shrugs

[EasyHeart]

I've given up trying to make sense of the idiocy being posted in this thread, but I'm still confused as to the purpose of the arguments being made.

 

OP and his buddies: What's your point?

[HallowedBeThyName]

I don't recall anyone saying you're supposed to feel this way or that way about what others tell you. The closest I gleamed was get used to people judging you. Probably best suited not to let others opinions have such a handle on your emotions with the exception of amusement.

 

Pretty clear interpretation that somebody who is living at home is not a self sufficient adult

 

 

. And a guy who strikes out on his own and takes his lumps as a self-sufficient adult turns me on.

 

 

 

That's a clearly ludicrous character assessment for somebody who thinks about his financial future and is looking to be in great financial shape in just a few years. Hell I'll be in better financial shape than 90% of the country and I'm NOT okay with being judged for doing that

 

 

If you don't like me, I don't give a f*ck. If you're going to sit there and tell me that I'm not independent or self sustaining adult, you can go F*ck yourself

[zengirl]

I've given up trying to make sense of the idiocy being posted in this thread, but I'm still confused as to the purpose of the arguments being made.

 

OP and his buddies: What's your point?

 

Sour grapes is my guess.

 

"These girls don't want me, so they're illogical!"

[Stupid Girl]

Answer: women don't look down on men who live with their parents between the ages of 22-27, they look down on insecure, pathetic little boys who can't accept it's not the fact that they live at home which is preventing them from getting a women, but the frat that they are angry misogynists who live in a deluded bubble.

 

Thread is over. The end.