Pained Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 You're allowed to disagree. No one is disputing that. I have my own opinion and theories based on my own experiences. It's all good. Link to post Share on other sites
lydiamarie Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 oooh...and there's my pet peeve. all right. migraine or no, i'm posting. anecdotal evidence doesn't mean s***. read the warning labels. they agree with me. and they are based on large studies. Link to post Share on other sites
Pained Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I still disagree. It doesn't matter who agrees with you. It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. However, having suffered from migraines, perhaps you should relax somewhere cool and dark. Link to post Share on other sites
lydiamarie Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Originally posted by Pained I still disagree. It doesn't matter who agrees with you. even medical science. hmm. the drug companies who put out the medication. hmm. reminds me of those old excederin commercials. the ones with the guy who said 'sure, they did studies. but i did my own kind of research'. meaning it worked for him. and that should be more convincing to us than the studies that were put out proving it's effectiveness. It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. all right, so you drop it then, if it's not a big deal. However, having suffered from migraines, perhaps you should relax somewhere cool and dark. wait a sec. you've told me on the sex board that just cause something works for me, doesn't mean it'll work for someone else (btw, i didn't mean for it to sound like i was saying that at all, i was just trying to offer a friendly suggestion). and now on this board, your personal experience is it-the ultimate for migraines and manic depression. hmm Link to post Share on other sites
Pained Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 All I ever said was that medication doesn't stop you from knowing right from wrong. It may hinder you from caring, but technically you still know, for example, that murder or something similar is wrong. Take Andrea Yates. She may not have cared whether or not killing her children was wrong, but she still knew it was. I don't think a combination of these medications makes someone forget that cheating is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
lydiamarie Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 i am pretty sure that andrea yates was not on medication when she killed her children. if i remember correctly, she was schizophrenic, but she was having children and so was not on her medication. her severe disorder coupled with postpartum depression threw her beyond all reason. she was psychotic when she killed them. texas is INCREDIBLY harsh with their guidelines for insanity-beyond most other states (i think there are a couple that have similar policies, one or two). but if you want to debate that, start another thread. that does not belong here. people can get to the point where they no longer know right from wrong. medication can-and does-alter one's state of mind. i think it follows that it is possible for medications, in some cases, to create such a case. Link to post Share on other sites
Pained Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Look, you can argue this until you're blue in the face, but I stand by my original opinion that, while medication can alter mood and mind, it shouldn't be used as an excuse, as technically, one would still know that cheating is wrong. I doubt her mind was wiped blank of everything she has ever learned. I have every right to voice my opinion, and will not be scared off or silenced by you just because your opinion differs. If you want to take personal offense, go ahead, but I will continue to voice my opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
moimeme Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 There are a whole lot of people on this planet who seem to think that facts are irrelevant and that just because they think something, no matter how removed from fact it is, then whatever they think is right. They have no compunction to worry about what is real. I have a sig that says just that. There's no point in trying to discuss things with folks like that. Their philosophy is "my mind is made up; don't bother me with facts". Frankly, I utterly fail to comprehend how anybody can believe anything provable without proof. Medicine's effects on people are documented and there's ample information about it IF people have some sort of concept about what a 'fact' versus an 'opinion' is. 'Opinion' is a construct of one person's brain which has zero validity other than as a discussion point but it does not reflect reality as it is. Opinions are worthless when discussing facts. Someone having an 'opinion' that a table is not a table does not make the table not a table. It remains a table regardless and therefore the person's 'opinion' isn't worth much except as an insight into that person, who seems unwilling to acknowledge that a fact is a fact. Link to post Share on other sites
The_Analyzer Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 "Can a medication cause infedelity?" Unless their has been an announcement made on national tv or in newspapers etc, by doctors that have proven this to be true for certain types of medication, I wouldn't bet on it to be so. I'm sure there are certain types of meds that may make people feel weird or akward due to side effects, but as far as making them fall up in the bed with someone, I doubt it. Just my 2 cents. Link to post Share on other sites
lydiamarie Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 it says on the warning label: may induce mania. symptoms of mania include uncharacteristic behaviors and sexual promiscuity and risk taking, etc. how much more proof do you need? Link to post Share on other sites
Fayebelle Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 It's been a while since science class but I believe I remember something about you can prove something Does exist but you can never prove it Doesn't exist Therefore- Lydia could find facts that prove promiscuity Is a side effect for people but there could Never be proof that someone Won't have a reaction that leads to promiscuity So keep arguing that proof is necessary and you will lose debate Link to post Share on other sites
FoxyShauna Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 It's scary, but it's true. Help her, please. Talk with her and her therapist. I wasn't in a relationship but I got on tables and danced and slowed danced with a girl. And told my mom I didn't feel quite like myself. Made out with people I didn't know. I'd never do that, no matter how much beer I take. And it was not an excuse because I wasn't with anyone. I flirted with the guys from a band backstage, got on stage, sang with them and made out with one of them in front of the others and I was a 15 yold virgin and had never been kissed. I begged and they got me off meds, but maybe in her case she can have it adjusted so that she at least feels in control of herself. Link to post Share on other sites
FoxyShawna Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Meducation can make you feel you are not acting quite like yourself and out of control, with a lot less inhibitions and acting on impulse, especially when combined with alcohol. Help her, please. It's not bull****. I told my parents and brothers to help me that I didn't feel like I was me and I wasn't in a relationship so I needed no excuses. Many people have the feeling that it's not them on certain medications and get their doctors to switch them to a new one. Best of luck. Shawna- Link to post Share on other sites
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