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What Makes Women Worth Winning Over?


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1)Most couples I know had it close to 50/50 from the beginning. The guy might have payed for the first date but it was close to even right after that. Who cares about a first date anyways? That's more significant to you than the 3 years of dating after that when it was pretty much equal?

 

 

This jaclyn broad does not represent all or most women, not by a long shot

 

 

 

2)I go more after the guys here because you're the ones polluting this forum with your misogynistic, extremely biased and inaccurate garbage. I don't see a lot of man hating on this forum and I would be enraged if I did

 

 

3)What did I say that's absurd about your average housewife? They do most of the housework, still work 40 hours a day and do a lot of the parenting responsibilities in terms of raising the children. This is how it is in nearly every family I know

 

 

You need to come back to earth with your ideas of women who have everything handed to them and skate by in life. it's just not reality for oh I don't know 95% of women

 

 

 

Again, so much assuming. Believe it or not, but I pay for myself more often than not on dates, supported myself when I was married and contributed to shared responsibilities. I also am very thoughtful and love doing small and big things for my significant other.

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brahmabull117
Again, so much assuming. Believe it or not, but I pay for myself more often than not on dates, supported myself when I was married and contributed to shared responsibilities. I also am very thoughtful and love doing small and big things for my significant other.

 

That is a pretty presumptive comparison. As I said, I still believe in give and take. You are assuming I expect to be treated well while giving nothing back.

You would be wrong, I worked full time and contributed just as much household wise when I was married as well as when it came to gifts. I just made a point that there are men out there that have no problem "spoiling" their significant other.

 

Who is to say what works for one relationship is wrong?

 

 

Then take an English 101 course because you do an absolutely horrible job of expressing your opinions. If you are as you describe yourself to be, then there are no clearly issues

 

 

You made yourself seem like a gold digger type early on

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brahmabull117
If we earned the same, split house chores, spent as much on each other... did every thing equally, I'd be cool lol

 

 

This is exactly the majority of relationships/marriages I know so what in the hell are you complaining about? Usually the women might earn about 10-20 grand less because they work less (family reasons) and they lost 4 or 5 years of their career advancement/experience to childbirth

 

 

You really need to come back to planet earth. The stuff you're posting in this thread makes zero sense

 

 

Your entire outrage boils down to the fact that women prefer if a man pays for the 1st date and that they hate to approach men because they're very insecure/afraid of rejection. Is that what it is? That 13 dollar plate of Shrimp is more significant to you than a great mostly equal relationship that last 20 years?

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brahmabull117
I love how Brah*a (have to censor it, since calling him by that title is incredibly offensive) Bull and people like him always use "...It's 2012!" as if that is proof of something being legitimate or reasonable. Imagine some Klansman a hundred years ago posing for a picture beneath a freshly lynched black saying "wOoOoo it's 1912, let's party!"

 

 

 

My nickname is actually one of the nicknames of my childhood idol - The Rock. U mad brah? :laugh:

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I think a girl is worth fighting for in two types of contexts:

 

1) if she is sh*t hot, and nice enough to be around, then after meeting her, a LOT of men WILL want her badly, if she is that hot, and also a nice person to talk to. You know. Heck, some men will want her even if she displays NO sign of intelligence or wamth, simple based on her looks.

 

 

2) if you get to know a girl who is not the top 10% in looks, and and fall in love with her, or are just really into her. THEN you will try to win them over.

 

 

So, it is either going crazy over her looks, or going crazy over her because your into her, that makes a guy put a girl on a pedestall.

 

Why on earth would a man regard a girl so highly, unless she was a super model, or a girl he was really into? Unless the guy is desperate and has super low standards.

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When it comes to commercials, it seems that many of them are geared towards the single guy. If you buy this car, these babes will want to ride with you, or buy this beer, or pizza they will want to party with you, or visit this restaurant, or use this shaving loation, etc.

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Why should I 'sell myself' to a bunch of angry, hateful men I wouldn't date anyway? If you can't see the value in a woman, don't date them. Go gay, hire whores, jerk off a lot. No reason to come here and be insulting.

 

Women are human and DO have feelings. Constantly degrading them is hurtful. If you don't want them, don't pursue. But there is no reason to be cruel.

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Why should I 'sell myself' to a bunch of angry, hateful men I wouldn't date anyway? If you can't see the value in a woman, don't date them. Go gay, hire whores, jerk off a lot. No reason to come here and be insulting.

 

Women are human and DO have feelings. Constantly degrading them is hurtful. If you don't want them, don't pursue. But there is no reason to be cruel.

 

 

 

It makes me wonder how the hell these men were born, to have such contempt for the beings that created them

 

 

"women get everything handed to them". Yea tell that to my mom who worked 50 hours a week while helping to raise me as a little kid when we came here from overseas

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Part of the reason there are so many bitter young (and older) men around is because media, movies, and modern music creates an image of modern courtship that involves a man 'wooing and winning a woman'.

 

Young men, myself included, get a picture in their head that if they give their best to a woman in terms of chivalry, courtesy, humor, kindness, and talent, that woman will melt in their arms and swoon.

 

Not usually the way it works. Women need to be physically or emotionally attracted to you and none of the above really creates that. However, it is useful to keep that woman once she IS attracted to you.

 

Once you get a woman attracted to you ... you won't have to win her. And if a woman is not attracted to you, there's not much you can do to win her. Well ... there is, but you are looking at years of heartache and chasing.

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Negative Nancy
some men will want her even if she displays NO sign of intelligence or wamth, simple based on her looks.

 

SOME men? :rolleyes: ALL of them! :rolleyes:

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Part of the reason there are so many bitter young (and older) men around is because media, movies, and modern music creates an image of modern courtship that involves a man 'wooing and winning a woman'.

 

No, wrong. The reason for "so many bitter young (and older) men around" is because media, movies, and modern music creates an image of every man being owed or entitled to a "hot woman". Men will gladly "woo and win" (:rolleyes:) a hot woman and trip over their own feet to cater to them, so that itself is not what makes them angry. In fact, for 99.99 % of men the hot women are the only ones that are "worth being won over" anyway, so men only see a certain narrow percentage of women worth lifting a finger for.

 

But the reason that there so many bitter young and older men around is because the majority of men can't have the "10s". All that's left are the dumpy boring plain janes, life is really unfair when you are cheated out of your perfect 10 :mad:

 

:rolleyes:

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SOME men? :rolleyes: ALL of them! :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Not true, I care a lot about personality for a girlfriend

 

 

It's just as embarrassing for me to bring around somebody to my friends and family who is stupid as it is for me to bring around a fat girl. I can't date a girl unless she is a positive reflection of me both in how she looks and how she carries herself

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It makes me wonder how the hell these men were born, to have such contempt for the beings that created them

 

Maybe they don't have Mothers. Maybe they just had useless walking holes for their Fathers to put their dicks in.

 

"women get everything handed to them". Yea tell that to my mom who worked 50 hours a week while helping to raise me as a little kid when we came here from overseas

 

I know it. I work hard and have accomplished a lot in my life. I treat people well, help those in need, and do my best to make a difference in my community. So I honestly get sick and tired of coming here and reading that my only value to the population lies in what is between my legs. It's hurtful and very, very disheartening.

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I know it. I work hard and have accomplished a lot in my life. I treat people well, help those in need, and do my best to make a difference in my community. So I honestly get sick and tired of coming here and reading that my only value to the population lies in what is between my legs. It's hurtful and very, very disheartening.

 

 

Don't let these guys bother you. It's mostly a lot of bitterness because they can't get a girl in real life. No guys in happy relationships would say the nonsense that I see on this forum

 

 

 

I have 2 amazing sisters and a mom I love to death who work their asses off and always have worked their asses off. I would knock these guys out if they ever said that nonsense around them in real life and if that makes me a white knight, then I'm a white knight

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Women should realize that respect goes both ways. How can you demand respect when you are shouting a bunch of hateful and misandrist crap towards men? Do you think that stuff hurts any less than the hateful stuff towards women. Should'n't respect be mutual or it only has to go one way?

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Women should realize that respect goes both ways. How can you demand respect when you are shouting a bunch of hateful and misandrist crap towards men? Do you think that stuff hurts any less than the hateful stuff towards women. Should'n't respect be mutual or it only has to go one way?

 

 

It's absolutely mutual. Why would you ever want anything to do with somebody who doesn't respect you and appreciate you?

 

 

With that being said, I don't see a lot of nasty male bashing on this site. I see some of it from negative nancy and Verhnz and I always call them out on their bullsh*t but it's nowhere near as bad as the other way around

 

 

Trust me, if it was as bad, I would be equally outraged. I absolutely despise feminazis

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It's absolutely mutual. Why would you ever want anything to do with somebody who doesn't respect you and appreciate you?

 

 

With that being said, I don't see a lot of nasty male bashing on this site. I see some of it from negative nancy and Verhnz and I always call them out on their bullsh*t but it's nowhere near as bad as the other way around

 

 

Trust me, if it was as bad, I would be equally outraged. I absolutely despise feminazis

 

I have seen some. There used to be a woman who outright said she enjoys seeing men being mistreated because it is now payback time. There is also the subtle misandry that very few people pick up on.

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I have seen some. There used to be a woman who outright said she enjoys seeing men being mistreated because it is now payback time. There is also the subtle misandry that very few people pick up on.

 

 

Well then she is a f*cking idiot for saying that

 

 

 

What's funny is I get called a white knight on this site and I would absolutely be called a male chauvinist pig if I went to some feminist website

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So I honestly get sick and tired of coming here and reading that my only value to the population lies in what is between my legs.

 

That is how men see women, though. Mind you, only the attractive ones, of course. The rest of the women - the boring, frumpy looking plain janes - are just a visual annoyance at best and a major disturbance at worst. Perhaps they might be good enough to be the house slaves to men, i.e. doing some cleaning and cooking jobs, but that is where it ends for those women.

 

For men, this is how it basically works with regards to women's worth to them: Be the source of a blood rush that makes him throw a rod in his pants or kindly turn into anti-matter.

 

Nothing you can do about it.

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That is how men see women, though. Mind you, only the attractive ones, of course. The rest of the women - the boring, frumpy looking plain janes - are just a visual annoyance at best and a major disturbance at worst. Perhaps they might be good enough to be the house slaves to men, i.e. doing some cleaning and cooking jobs, but that is where it ends for those women.

 

For men, this is how it basically works with regards to women's worth to them: Be the source of a blood rush that makes him throw a rod in his pants or kindly turn into anti-matter.

 

Nothing you can do about it.

 

 

 

I really hope you're trolling here

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I dunno why people even bother to reply to Negative Nancy with her delusional ass posts. They're all pretty much the same, with that stupid trademark icon.

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Why would I be? :rolleyes: I read it straight from the horse's mouth on here all the time. So unless you are implying that others on here are trolling as well, you should not make such unfounded accusations.

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I dunno why people even bother to reply to Negative Nancy with her delusional ass posts. They're all pretty much the same, with that stupid trademark icon.

 

 

 

Yep just a troll

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Leave her alone. Normally misandrist stuff pisses me off but I have some empathy for her.

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