Would an Afghan man draw interest from women?

[O'farrell]

In the sense that the stereotype is that women like foreign guys. But iv found this is limited to Italians and other Europeans. Would men from a less "classy" country count as well? If you met an Afghan man would his ethnicity and culture draw interest from you?

[Snakechammah]

If he comes from a culture that disrespects women, chances are most women would steer clear from him.

 

That said, someone from a different culture do appeal to me. I prefer Canadians or Finnish! *swoons*

[mickleb]

If he comes from a culture that disrespects women, chances are most women would steer clear from him.

 

Did you know there are some Afghan men who haven't joined the Taliban?

[january2011]

If I met an Afghan man, I'd probably bore him to death with questions about his ethnicity and culture.

 

But I'd do the same to most people with different backgrounds from mine.

[irin]

yes, unless hes an Islamic extremist, then no, most of the afghans i know are quite attractive!

[FitChick]

I heard a radio snippet about US troops trying to train Afghan soldiers. The officer said it's like having twenty-five children because they don't listen and he is constantly saying, "Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that!"

 

This is where our tax dollars are going.

[MarlyStar]

It will probably be a handicap. Not because everyone will think you are in the Taliban, but because the culture is in such disrepute. There's the poverty thing and the green card thing and the women are subhuman thing. And most/many people know of a woman who married someone from an Arabic/moslem culture and then the kids came and the problems were insurmountable or after several years the guy reverted back to his roots and renounced western culture.

 

And so many of the cultural ideas as so distasteful to Americans: child brides and honor killings and keeping women ignorant and covered up and without any rights. And the fact that we can't watch an episode of South Park or look at a cartoon because of a severe threat of death. If you are an Afghan male, it's likely you are going to have trouble dating in the US. The culture is just so different and so hostile to women, women aren't going to flock to sign up for it. And the more obvious your ethnicity is (accent, dress, daily habits), the harder it will be. Altho if you choose to live in a place like Dearborn, MI, you'll probably have better luck.

[yongyong]

you wouldn't have a problem banging some white trash fat american women at the bar. you can even marry them too.

 

I feel bad when I see those normal looking immigrant guys with trash women at the bar.

[O'farrell]

It will probably be a handicap. Not because everyone will think you are in the Taliban, but because the culture is in such disrepute. There's the poverty thing and the green card thing and the women are subhuman thing. And most/many people know of a woman who married someone from an Arabic/moslem culture and then the kids came and the problems were insurmountable or after several years the guy reverted back to his roots and renounced western culture.

 

And so many of the cultural ideas as so distasteful to Americans: child brides and honor killings and keeping women ignorant and covered up and without any rights. And the fact that we can't watch an episode of South Park or look at a cartoon because of a severe threat of death. If you are an Afghan male, it's likely you are going to have trouble dating in the US. The culture is just so different and so hostile to women, women aren't going to flock to sign up for it. And the more obvious your ethnicity is (accent, dress, daily habits), the harder it will be. Altho if you choose to live in a place like Dearborn, MI, you'll probably have better luck.

 

Most Afghan men under the age of 30 are not like this at all. This is because we have never seen Afghanistan so America is the only culture we know. The culture we would carry with us would be language, the way to act at the dinner table, ethnic foods, and the following of Islam to a degree. (n sharia law)

 

I can't imagine anyone abandoning the culture they grew up in or even having accent. My parents are in their 50's and 60's and they are as Americanized as it gets without even an accent.

 

Perhaps the Saudis or some other Middle Eastern race is different that could be the case. And Dearborn has the most Arabs not Afghans. The city with the most Afghans is Fremont, Ca.

[FitChick]

It is part of their culture to have "dancing boys" who are dressed and made up as girls. Basically they are child prostitutes.

[O'farrell]

It is part of their culture to have "dancing boys" who are dressed and made up as girls. Basically they are child prostitutes.

 

That is the equivalent to saying it is in the Western Culture to be a homosexual, disrespectful, and every other negative aspect of society. Neither idea is centralized in any culture, but simply negative by products of it. You don't think there is child prostitution in the US?

[darkmoon]

That is the equivalent to saying it is in the Western Culture to be a homosexual' date=' disrespectful, and every other negative aspect of society. Neither idea is centralized in any culture, but simply negative by products of it. You don't think there is child prostitution in the US?[/quote']

 

 

tbh, if you don't like Western Culture, you can always leave

[mesmerized]

That is the equivalent to saying it is in the Western Culture to be a homosexual' date=' disrespectful, and every other negative aspect of society. Neither idea is centralized in any culture, but simply negative by products of it. You don't think there is child prostitution in the US?[/quote']

 

So you think homosexuality is a negative aspect of society? You're not really helping the stereotypes here.

[O'farrell]

tbh, if you don't like Western Culture, you can always leave

How did you get to this conclusion? See my post above where I said I was born and raised here.

So you think homosexuality is a negative aspect of society? You're not really helping the stereotypes here.

Personally I do, I can't speak for Afghans. BUT-

 

1)You missed the point. The point is there are positive and negative aspects about every society? I am not saying one is better than the other, but neither are perfect.

 

2) The stereotype of us Afghans about our own people is that homosexuality is rather common.

[MarlyStar]

Most Afghan men under the age of 30 are not like this at all. This is because we have never seen Afghanistan so America is the only culture we know. The culture we would carry with us would be language, the way to act at the dinner table, ethnic foods, and the following of Islam to a degree. (n sharia law)

 

I can't imagine anyone abandoning the culture they grew up in or even having accent. My parents are in their 50's and 60's and they are as Americanized as it gets without even an accent.

 

You can argue all you want. But if America is the only culture you know and you've never been in Afghanistan, and your parents are Americanized as far as it gets without even an accent, why do you identify yourself as an Afghani rather than a first generation American?

 

No one much cares about the distinction between an Afghan or a Saudi or an Egyptian except the Afghan, Saudi, or Egyptian. The culture is in extreme disrepute in the US, not well understood and what is understood is not well liked, respected, or admired. People who have interactions with Middle Eastern cultures in the US don't have good things to report (for example my uncle is a principal of an elementary school with a high population of Arab students, he has appalling stories). Soldiers coming back from Afghanistan have appalling things to say as well. The arab/islamic culture does not mesh well with the US culture and the recent history of interaction between the US and Arab people is very ugly.

 

US women who do venture forth and try dating or marrying Afghanis or Egyptian or whatever often alarming things to say, mostly on the lines of at first it was good and then he reverted back into that barbarianism and did, said, wanted that. And it's every woman's nightmare to have her children taken to one of those countries and never returned.

 

You can argue all you want that the perception is wrong, and maybe you are right and maybe you aren't. It's based on something. But anyway, you asked if an Afghan man would draw interest from an American woman and the answer whether you like it or not is probably no. In general most American women will steer clear, most politely, but nevertheless will be extremely wary and uninterested. However, you can always find an exception. If you want a mainstream US woman and you present yourself right and down play the Afghani part of yourself, you will find someone. But why should you ever have to downplay a part of any part of yourself, it's like living a lie and won't be healthy to the relationship.

 

There's really no point in arguing about it. It unfortunately is what it is. Probably some day it will be different, but 10 years after 9/11 it is not. And the constant reinforcement of the dog-status and abuse of women from that part of the world doesn't help.

[O'farrell]

You can argue all you want. But if America is the only culture you know and you've never been in Afghanistan, and your parents are Americanized as far as it gets without even an accent, why do you identify yourself as an Afghani rather than a first generation American?

 

No one much cares about the distinction between an Afghan or a Saudi or an Egyptian except the Afghan, Saudi, or Egyptian. The culture is in extreme disrepute in the US, not well understood and what is understood is not well liked, respected, or admired. People who have interactions with Middle Eastern cultures in the US don't have good things to report (for example my uncle is a principal of an elementary school with a high population of Arab students, he has appalling stories). Soldiers coming back from Afghanistan have appalling things to say as well. The arab/islamic culture does not mesh well with the US culture and the recent history of interaction between the US and Arab people is very ugly.

 

US women who do venture forth and try dating or marrying Afghanis or Egyptian or whatever often alarming things to say, mostly on the lines of at first it was good and then he reverted back into that barbarianism and did, said, wanted that. And it's every woman's nightmare to have her children taken to one of those countries and never returned.

 

You can argue all you want that the perception is wrong, and maybe you are right and maybe you aren't. It's based on something. But anyway, you asked if an Afghan man would draw interest from an American woman and the answer whether you like it or not is probably no. In general most American women will steer clear, most politely, but nevertheless will be extremely wary and uninterested. However, you can always find an exception. If you want a mainstream US woman and you present yourself right and down play the Afghani part of yourself, you will find someone. But why should you ever have to downplay a part of any part of yourself, it's like living a lie and won't be healthy to the relationship.

 

There's really no point in arguing about it. It unfortunately is what it is. Probably some day it will be different, but 10 years after 9/11 it is not. And the constant reinforcement of the dog-status and abuse of women from that part of the world doesn't help.

 

 

No Afghanis on those planes:mad:

 

But I understand your post.

[SmileFace]

I see no problem dating Afghan men. However I don't know if my opinion differs due to the fact that I am the first in my family to be born in America, so I may not have a POV of an American Women. I have had good relations with guys from Iran, Afghanistan, Israel and Egypt so I see no problem with it. I won't let someones back ground block me from seeing them.

[Ross MwcFan]

Did you know there are some Afghan men who haven't joined the Taliban?

 

So most Afghan men don't treat women as inferior then?

 

If so, a lot of people including myself are not aware of it, no need to be rude.

[O'farrell]

So most Afghan men don't treat women as inferior then?

 

If so, a lot of people including myself are not aware of it, no need to be rude.

 

Comments like these are why im happy I never watch the news

[mickleb]

Barbarianism? Really?!

 

O'farrell - there are aspects of Muslim culture that clash soundly with my my own beliefs (homosexuality being one of them), and I can't say being a Muslim in a predominantly Christian culture, generally, is going to be easy, but I'm presuming you're looking for a Muslim girl? It's a big country - you'll have options. As this thread proves, though, you'll have a good decade of bullsh*t propaganda to sift through if you want to cast your net wider.

 

I am, personally, shocked by the ignorance demonstrated by some posters on here and, sadly, feel you are fighting a losing battle trying to contend with it. There are people on here who will hold onto their anger because they're terrified of losing their identities, and will gang up in places like this and call it justification. IMO, it's truly appalling: the opposite of their 'land of the free' ideology and, basically, racism. I'll report it as such if such see too much more of it.

 

I know you don't need me wading in to defend you, btw. Just makes my blood boil, and I can't sit by and pretend I like it. By default, I'm stating my respect to all of those who have posted with rational, open minds.

[mickleb]

So most Afghan men don't treat women as inferior then?

 

If so, a lot of people including myself are not aware of it, no need to be rude.

 

That's correct Ross. Muslim culture is hugely respectful towards women.

 

And you pick me as the rude one in this thread? Interesting...

[darkmoon]

"How did you get to this conclusion? See my post above where I said I was born and raised here"

 

i'd advise anybody the same, native or not - if you don't like the heat of the stove get out of the kitchen, look, you want to know about getting dates, so it could just be that your antipathy shows

[O'farrell]

Barbarianism? Really?!

 

O'farrell - there are aspects of Muslim culture that clash soundly with my my own beliefs (homosexuality being one of them), and I can't say being a Muslim in a predominantly Christian culture, generally, is going to be easy, but I'm presuming you're looking for a Muslim girl? It's a big country - you'll have options. As this thread proves, though, you'll have a good decade of bullsh*t propaganda to sift through if you want to cast your net wider.

 

I am, personally, shocked by the ignorance demonstrated by some posters on here and, sadly, feel you are fighting a losing battle trying to contend with it. There are people on here who will hold onto their anger because they're terrified of losing their identities, and will gang up in places like this and call it justification. IMO, it's truly appalling: the opposite of their 'land of the free' ideology and, basically, racism. I'll report it as such if such see too much more of it.

 

I know you don't need me wading in to defend you, btw. Just makes my blood boil, and I can't sit by and pretend I like it. By default, I'm stating my respect to all of those who have posted with rational, open minds.

 

I appreciate the support! But may I ass that fundamental islam and fundamental Christianity are very very similar. So much so that I would say the Quran is a later version of it.

[O'farrell]

That's correct Ross. Muslim culture is hugely respectful towards women.

 

And you pick me as the rude one in this thread? Interesting...

 

There are aspects of Christianity and Islam that can be disrespectful towards women.

 

"How did you get to this conclusion? See my post above where I said I was born and raised here"

 

i'd advise anybody the same, native or not - if you don't like the heat of the stove get out of the kitchen, look, you want to know about getting dates, so it could just be that your antipathy shows

What does this have to do with the topic of weather an American woman be interested in an Afghan man?

[irin]

its really unfair to judge a country, a whole nation, a culture based on the negative portrayal that we get in western media.

 

lets face the facts Afghanistan is country torn by decades of war, oppression from islamic extremist, that actually went there from Saudi Arabia. poverty, lack of education, this factors all effect the growth and development of the country as a whole, politically, socially, economically, so if you hear a few bad stories, doesnt mean the whole nation is at fault.

 

and those of you using stories that are told by soldiers, really? these people that kill for a living? to me that war has lost all its legitimacy, if it ever had any to begin with.

 

as for op, i dont thing that would be an immediate issue, as most of the time you cant really tell if someone is from Afghanistan just by looking at them, so your behaviour and treatment of women, has a far more effect of how successful you are with them.

 

and if someone rejects solely based on your ethnic background, they are usually the kind of people you want to avoid anyways.