Consolidated discussion - Online dating

[Jacques on stage]

Ok. Isn't that totally counter-productive, though?

 

Not in the slightest. You see this is where people never follow through logically on a shallow interpretation of evolutionary psychology. So whenever it's asked why women are so shallow always going for tall, good looking men what's the standard, pop-psychology response? That tall, good looking men are advertising their healthy genes. Women are hard wired to be attracted to this. It's true. So In lieu of good looks what can men do? Well they can develop strong personalities, be funny and charismatic. But these qualities are virtually impossible to sell online effectively. So men can decide to ignore OLD and just look offline. But then they find that even when they meet women offline they're still getting messages from dozens of men from their dating app, what is the best strategy to follow? Logically it is to undermine the very medium that works against them. If a general sense pervades that every other hot guy on dating apps are a fake profile then more and more women will lose interest.

 

All evolution is strategy.

[Jacques on stage]

Oh yes. Catfishers are definitely part of the problem with OLD . You know, dishonesty, lack of integrity, etc. I assume people of all genders and orientations do it, but it certainly makes for a hostile, distrustful environment doesn't it?

 

Not to mention, those women "wasting their time" on catfishers are spending less time getting to know real men.

 

Yes but if you're one of the guys who they are never getting to know then we've lost nothing.

 

People just don't want to follow through on the logic of evolutionary psychology. Women cannot be blamed for being attracted to good looking men. Men cannot be blamed for trying to counter strategies. Our genes are firmly in control.

[LookAtThisPOst]

Or...and I'm just spitballing here..maybe they don't like the substance you're providing.

 

Cut the bull crap here...I've been around long enough to having taken advice from people on the kind of substance I provide, I get into specifics when I get to know a woman.

 

The reality of the situation they think, "Ew, he's short" or "ew, he's bald" and hit the delete button.

 

It's that simple. That's how Tinder works and that's where the evolution of online dating seems to be going.

[PrettyEmily77]

Not in the slightest. You see this is where people never follow through logically on a shallow interpretation of evolutionary psychology. So whenever it's asked why women are so shallow always going for tall, good looking men what's the standard, pop-psychology response? That tall, good looking men are advertising their healthy genes. Women are hard wired to be attracted to this. It's true. So In lieu of good looks what can men do? Well they can develop strong personalities, be funny and charismatic. But these qualities are virtually impossible to sell online effectively. So men can decide to ignore OLD and just look offline. But then they find that even when they meet women offline they're still getting messages from dozens of men from their dating app, what is the best strategy to follow? Logically it is to undermine the very medium that works against them. If a general sense pervades that every other hot guy on dating apps are a fake profile then more and more women will lose interest.

 

All evolution is strategy.

 

That's a super time-consuming way to go round round in circles, no?

 

Like I said, if for whatever reason OLD doesn't work for you, try and showcase what you see as your strong points through another medium rather than waste these women's time and yours.

[Jacques on stage]

That's a super time-consuming way to go round round in circles, no?

 

Like I said, if for whatever reason OLD doesn't work for you, try and showcase what you see as your strong points through another medium rather than waste these women's time and yours.

 

It takes up very little of my time and it is, in a small way, having a positive effect. If I was alone in doing this it would be a waste of time but judging from a large percentage of the profiles I read, there are a lot of guys doing it. The accumulative effect can only be a good thing for us, and therefore our genes.

[ChickiePops]

Problem is when the female profiles convey very little originality it is hard not to see you all as one seething mass of boobs and impossibly high standards.

 

Us guys are forced by the system to spend hours reviewing and psychologically profiling everything we right on our profile to ensure we maximise our chance of a return. Women just have to bang up 'I am as comfortable in a dress as I am in sweat pants!!1' or some variation thereof and watch the offers of marriage come rolling in.

 

In online dating the house ALWAYS wins, you can all draw your own interpretation of who the house is.

 

So don't message the girls whose profiles bore you.

 

I just fixed your dating life!! You're welcome. That'll be $350 please, I prefer cash.

 

And again, you are the common denominator here, so you are the problem.

 

If you guys hate women so much why do you even bother with us?

[Jacques on stage]

So don't message the girls whose profiles bore you.

 

I just fixed your dating life!! You're welcome. That'll be $350 please, I prefer cash.

 

And again, you are the common denominator here, so you are the problem.

 

If you guys hate women so much why do you even bother with us?

 

And here's another $350 first prize in the 'Entirely missing the point' category.

[LookAtThisPOst]

Agreed....catfishers are prominent...I got as far as setting up a date with a woman, only to have her cancel 2 days before the date...after that, she stopped responding to my messages and her profile just vanished.

 

Yes, I even got as far as to talking to her on the phone.

 

I swear, most there are probably using it for attention/validation and as an extension to their currently already existing social media platforms.

[mrldii]

Agreed....catfishers are prominent...I got as far as setting up a date with a woman, only to have her cancel 2 days before the date...after that, she stopped responding to my messages and her profile just vanished.

 

Yes, I even got as far as to talking to her on the phone.

 

I swear, most there are probably using it for attention/validation and as an extension to their currently already existing social media platforms.

 

 

Perhaps these female catfishers are simply taking a well-worn page from the same book "many men" have used when catfishing women to "restore balance" in the online dating world and to "exasperate" others to give up on OLD and do it the old-fashioned way...yanno, being rejected in real life for being "eww short" or "eww bald".

 

Just a thought...

[Emilia]

However, I will say that I agree 200% that a lot of women's profiles SUCK. I mean as guys we're expected to have great ones right. However, like you say, it's the same generic boring write ups on most profiles..LOL But once again, it all comes back to women having so many options. Plus, they know that guys realistically care most about pictures initially. So why should they put a ton of effort into what isn't even read?

It's actually down to the fact that men don't read profiles, by and large. They go by the photos.

[mrldii]

And here's another $350 first prize in the 'Entirely missing the point' category.

 

 

Nahhh, chickie hit the nail right on the head; *odd* that some of you can't / don't / won't see it and prefer to blame 'all the women' for not being interested in getting involved with men who don't really much like us, to begin with.

[Jacques on stage]

Perhaps these female catfishers are simply taking a well-worn page from the same book "many men" have used when catfishing women to "restore balance" in the online dating world and to "exasperate" others to give up on OLD and do it the old-fashioned way...yanno, being rejected in real life for being "eww short" or "eww bald".

 

Just a thought...

 

That would be an entirely illogical strategy for a woman to use. Fake female profiles are always scammers.

[Emilia]

People just don't want to follow through on the logic of evolutionary psychology. Women cannot be blamed for being attracted to good looking men. Men cannot be blamed for trying to counter strategies. Our genes are firmly in control.

That would be true if there was actually such a thing as 'evolutionary psychology'. What a load of tosh.

[Jacques on stage]

Nahhh, chickie hit the nail right on the head; *odd* that some of you can't / don't / won't see it and prefer to blame 'all the women' for not being interested in getting involved with men who don't really much like us, to begin with.

 

She made the point she wanted to make. It was just totally irrelevant to the post it was responding to.

[Jacques on stage]

That would be true if there was actually such a thing as 'evolutionary psychology'. What a load of tosh.

 

Well if you're a creationist then I guess we have no common terms for discussion.

[Emilia]

Well if you're a creationist then I guess we have no common terms for discussion.

Me? I'm in the UK, don't mix me up with your morons.

 

My point is that people with crappy personality tend to blame something else.... like fictional pop psychology.

[mrldii]

That would be an entirely illogical strategy for a woman to use. Fake female profiles are always scammers.

 

 

Someone - on this very thread - acknowledged that fake male profiles are always scammers, too...

 

...but they're doing it for a good and righteous cause.

 

 

Geese and ganders...they are a fascinating lot, no?

 

[ChickiePops]

She made the point she wanted to make. It was just totally irrelevant to the post it was responding to.

 

Actually it was completely relevant. The poster complained that most women's profiles that he looks at are all the same, so I told him to skip those profiles and move on to profiles that are not the same.

 

Millions of couples meet online. It's very easy to generalize and blame the entirety of the opposite sex for your dating failures, but in reality, as I've said before, YOU are the common denominator, so YOU are the problem. Your ego might not want to allow you to believe that but it's true.

[Jacques on stage]

Someone - on this very thread - acknowledged that fake male profiles are always scammers, too...

 

...but they're doing it for a good and righteous cause.

 

 

Geese and ganders...they are a fascinating lot, no?

 

 

Do keep up.

 

Fake female profiles are financial scammers or trying to get men onto another website.

 

Fake male profiles have no financial motivation. They're men wasting women's time.

 

There's nothing good or righteous about it.

[ChickiePops]

Cut the bull crap here...I've been around long enough to having taken advice from people on the kind of substance I provide, I get into specifics when I get to know a woman.

 

The reality of the situation they think, "Ew, he's short" or "ew, he's bald" and hit the delete button.

 

It's that simple. That's how Tinder works and that's where the evolution of online dating seems to be going.

 

Well I don't know what you look like but your bitterness seeps into every post you make on this site, as do all of your social handicaps. If I got a message from you that had even remotely the same tone as your posts here, I would delete it too.

 

My lovely boyfriend is balding and he has a belly, and I love him to death and am incredibly attracted to him. He's also kind, funny, smart, friendly, etc etc etc. these are the things I love most about him.

[ChickiePops]

Do keep up.

 

Fake female profiles are financial scammers or trying to get men onto another website.

 

Fake male profiles have no financial motivation. They're men wasting women's time.

 

There's nothing good or righteous about it.

 

Lol

 

Again..why do you even bother with women at all when all you have is disdain for us?

[Jacques on stage]

Actually it was completely relevant. The poster complained that most women's profiles that he looks at are all the same, so I told him to skip those profiles and move on to profiles that are not the same.

 

Millions of couples meet online. It's very easy to generalize and blame the entirety of the opposite sex for your dating failures, but in reality, as I've said before, YOU are the common denominator, so YOU are the problem. Your ego might not want to allow you to believe that but it's true.

 

Yes of course. I'm not good looking enough to attract women in a medium that sells people with photographs. I'm perfectly willing to accept that. Women tend to make shallower choices online than in real life. Therefore it's desirable for me (and all other men not physically blessed) that fewer women use online dating as a means to find men.

 

Doesn't mean that I hate women. I would choose the best looking women I could online if they were the slightest bit receptive. But me changing my profile blurb, or the messages I send, will have zero effect while I look like I do.

[mrldii]

Do keep up.

 

Fake female profiles are financial scammers or trying to get men onto another website.

 

Fake male profiles have no financial motivation. They're men wasting women's time.

 

There's nothing good or righteous about it.

 

 

Regarding the post to which I'd made my reply, he was supposing the reason by which he'd determined her to be a scammer; she never asked him for money, she simply dropped off the planet when he responded to her.

 

 

I merely suggested that she, too, might be taking up the good and righteous cause of getting men off online dating and back into the real world of dating...a *successful* tactic we'd all been recently introduced to, in this very thread.

 

 

 

By the way, there are plenty of male online financial scammers; simply Google "Nigerian scammers". It's a well-known online phenomenon.

[PrettyEmily77]

It takes up very little of my time and it is, in a small way, having a positive effect. If I was alone in doing this it would be a waste of time but judging from a large percentage of the profiles I read, there are a lot of guys doing it. The accumulative effect can only be a good thing for us, and therefore our genes.

 

This makes no sense at all to me. You're hacked off because women go for attractive men so you create fake profiles to lure them into thinking they have a shot then you let them down for the good of our collective gene pool??

 

Of course, you are happy going into relationships with women you don't find attractive yourself, right? I mean, you give every woman, whatever her size or circumstances, equal interest, right? Because you're all over personality and giving everyone a chance, yes?

[Jacques on stage]

Lol

 

Again..why do you even bother with women at all when all you have is disdain for us?

 

But I don't. You're fundamentally misunderstanding me. I'm just as shallow. I want a woman I find physically attractive. But that's simply impossible in the online dating format. It's also increasingly difficult to meet women away from OLD who aren't doing it. So I'm endlessly competing against dozens of better looking men. It's tough.

 

But every woman who is not dating online has far fewer options. So the best thing for me to do is undermine that as a medium.