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Your email to greenetree....80% anyway...
lololol I know right?

 

Dude thats what I would have sent her as a first message, and I send first messages like that out ALL the time. Many dont reply, and those who do reply end up fizzling out. Which is why I told greentree that many guys give up and just spam or say "hi"

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I have a question...

If you "hide" someone you find in a search, can they still look at your profile/will you come up in their search?

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It must be difficult to have genius level IQ and physical attributes to match; trying to find that magic connection when 99.75% of men are rejected based on a singular quality. I feel pity much like I do for the billionaires when they can't afford a 4th yacht because of paying taxes.

 

Any above average girls looking for an above average guy?

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CryForNoOne
She has in her questions that she wants to sleep with someone within the first 2 dates and is into sleeping with someone on the first date. That is a huge green light for skeezy online men I find. LA is general is filled with very sleazy sex obsessed people...I am so glad I dont live there anymore the hookup culture is suffocating

 

I suspect that type of skeezy online men don't spend as much time reading her profile as you did. How many times are you going to remind us you're glad you don't live in LA anymore...

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CryForNoOne
Why do I hear the opposite most of the time?

 

Oh, you must be really hot or something.

 

Well according to the OP, it's because most guys just spam...

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CryForNoOne
It must be difficult to have genius level IQ and physical attributes to match; trying to find that magic connection when 99.75% of men are rejected based on a singular quality. I feel pity much like I do for the billionaires when they can't afford a 4th yacht because of paying taxes.

 

Any above average girls looking for an above average guy?

 

LOL! She does seem pretty smart actually and I must say she has the physical attributes to match. She doesn't seem to be crying about it though. But she obviously hasn't found Mr. Right yet...

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charlietheginger
Depends on what you mean by average. If I think you might be 140+ IQ, with average looks, and anything but a horrible message you will get a reply.

 

I'm not 140 IQ but I'm close. I want to date a man smarter than me. I don't care if he's better looking, richer, more successful. His personality is immensely important, but of the things we use to "rate" people, the only one I care about is IQ. I make that pretty clear but 90% of the men who message me don't get it or care. They actually seem to get dumber when I tell them what I want.

 

Where it seems to work for me is when I message them. They know what I want and why I messaged them...

 

So a IQ of 140 makes a man a great conversationalist.

A man that is smart enough to challenge you ? So does this

Mean during sex you won't allow him to be on top ?

Would that be to "overpowering" and take away from you?

Many women who like to be ontop during sex get a very satisfying

Sneer and egotistical boost knowing they are in full control. Many

Dominate women often perfer to grab a mans balls and

Slap him in the face not only sexually but in everyday situations

Like what restaurant they will eat at or whats in the grocery kart.

While then smart brilliant man becomes castrated by his

mate. Reduced to nothing more then a wallet and shoulder

To cry on about a rough day at work.

 

While the less then brilliant IQ 100 average joe sticks

Up for himself. Does not put up with whining or letting

A women degrade him. He would just hop in his truck

Go fishing or ride his motocycle around the block. The

Average IQ man is a hard beast to tame.

 

While the smart nerd will obey with a yes maa aam .

The average IQ man with respond with " they are your

Clothes you fold um and no i ain't watching "sisterhood ya ya

Of the traveling pants ima go shoot some pool"

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Sorry about the controversial title, had to get you here...

 

In part, it is a legitimate concern... not that people are "losers" (because I'm considering it) but that people on dating sites aren't really genuine or looking for something serious. Or, I saw a post by a girl who's boyfriend is STILL on the dating site where they met.

 

Is this typical?

Anyone ever had luck with dating sites, free or paid and if so, which is better?

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You know what, I've been on LS for quite a while now and I've seen all the threads about OLD and "authentic men" and how "authentic men" aren't on dating sites and the only thing OLD has are crazy people, broken people, liars, cheaters, blah blah blah.

 

Quite recently I've been thinking about dabbling with dating but I have absolutely NO idea how to go about it. I've never dated honestly, I've always just had a boyfriend. So I've been talking to my girlfriends, my coworkers... and each girl has said the EXACT same thing. "Join Match.com!"

 

I was like... ehhhh OLD isn't for me... isn't it full of weirdos? And every. single. Woman i've spoken to has said something along the lines of, "I met my current partner on Match!" or "My best friend met her fiance on Match!" or "My friend has been married to the guy she met on Match for XX years now!"

 

It seems every single woman I've come across is dating someone from an OLD site or knows someone who's had such success with that site.

 

I feel like I'll give it a whirl. What's the worst that can happen? Just keep your boundaries in plain sight, know what you're looking for, don't put out early, get to know the guy. I feel like the only thing OLD will do is expand my circles of men. As of right now I go out with my friends, am always out doing things, but no one approaches me! If I want to start dating I'm going to have to make some moves, and I'm going at least give it a shot.

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Now that OLD and internet use is common, mixed bag, representing the variety of general population.

 

Back in the day when nearly all OLD was free, IME it was possible, and likely, to encounter healthy and compatible people. Still possible, but more relevant to the general demographic, as nearly anyone accesses the internet now. Paid sites are more restrictive, so perhaps, in the same demographic, more likely to contain 'serious' potentials. That said, abuse (cracking/hacking) is more commonplace now, and shills (web site 'dates'). Mixed bag :D

 

I met my exW on a free site, as well as two LTR partners. Of those sites, only one, American Singles, still exists, though as a part of another dating portal.

 

Of the three, none had 'loser' professions. One was a CPA, the other a doctor and my exW is a hair stylist. All apparently normal individuals. YMMV.

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I met my fiance on a dating site (getting married this fall).

 

I think we are an amazing couple and with the bizarrely diverse interests we both have, we feel incredibly lucky to have found each other.

 

However, it was not without considerable work on both our parts; we both did the Online thing a LOT with little or no success.

 

But we are middle aged; I am turning 49 this year and he is turning 53. I tried it when I was younger and it didn't work out so well so perhaps it is an age demographic-thing; those who are more experienced and know what we want but have a more difficult time finding complementary individuals to date...

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So a IQ of 140 makes a man a great conversationalist.

A man that is smart enough to challenge you ? So does this

Mean during sex you won't allow him to be on top ?

Would that be to "overpowering" and take away from you?

Many women who like to be ontop during sex get a very satisfying

Sneer and egotistical boost knowing they are in full control. Many

Dominate women often perfer to grab a mans balls and

Slap him in the face not only sexually but in everyday situations

Like what restaurant they will eat at or whats in the grocery kart.

While then smart brilliant man becomes castrated by his

mate. Reduced to nothing more then a wallet and shoulder

To cry on about a rough day at work.

 

While the less then brilliant IQ 100 average joe sticks

Up for himself. Does not put up with whining or letting

A women degrade him. He would just hop in his truck

Go fishing or ride his motocycle around the block. The

Average IQ man is a hard beast to tame.

 

While the smart nerd will obey with a yes maa aam .

The average IQ man with respond with " they are your

Clothes you fold um and no i ain't watching "sisterhood ya ya

Of the traveling pants ima go shoot some pool"

 

I am intensely right brained. I am seeking someone who is intensely left brained. The enlightened 140+ IQ man can appreciate the Theater of Absurd and contrast the literary styles of Samual Beckett and Eugène Ionesco. He exudes masculinity because he is neither a homophobe nor feels castrated without his truck, fishing rod, or motorcycle. Those are wonderful pursuits for the average joe but not for him.

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Bazinga,

 

Like any dating, there are pros and cons. I only OLD and have some great dates and a couple of mostly positive relationships come from them. I've personally never met a whacko, psycho or someone who wasn't at least a little sincere about wanting a relationship.

 

Different people have different experiences.

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fortyninethousand322

I'm on a dating site. And I usually consider myself a loser. So, take that how you may...

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Mme. Chaucer

I met my husband on a dating site. Yes, we are both losers.

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The people on those sites... They are you, They are me, but that being said, it still doesn't work. It lacks the chemistry of real life, therefore making it more difficult to tell if you really click with some one.

 

 

Couple that with it bringing out peoples shallowness...

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I think there are a lot of broken people on OLD that need to fix themselves before dating. Not that there are not broken people all around us, but OLD seems to exponentially multiply and enable remaining broken.

 

For example:

Woman meets guy. He is abusive treats her like **** and causes emotional trauma. Gets her pregnant and dumps her. Instead of taking time to self reflect and identify root causes of her current situation seeks to pass the time and lift her confidence with a casual profile OLD. "I am just here because my friend set up my profile, just looking around" kind of thing. It becomes a slippery slope. Suddenly she is on a date with an abusive narcissist who is going to get her pregnant and dump her. Chances are she is going to repeat the cycle.

 

Same issues apply to guys too but I only see what I dated.

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Bengal Tiger
You know what, I've been on LS for quite a while now and I've seen all the threads about OLD and "authentic men" and how "authentic men" aren't on dating sites and the only thing OLD has are crazy people, broken people, liars, cheaters, blah blah blah.

 

Quite recently I've been thinking about dabbling with dating but I have absolutely NO idea how to go about it. I've never dated honestly, I've always just had a boyfriend. So I've been talking to my girlfriends, my coworkers... and each girl has said the EXACT same thing. "Join Match.com!"

 

I was like... ehhhh OLD isn't for me... isn't it full of weirdos? And every. single. Woman i've spoken to has said something along the lines of, "I met my current partner on Match!" or "My best friend met her fiance on Match!" or "My friend has been married to the guy she met on Match for XX years now!"

 

It seems every single woman I've come across is dating someone from an OLD site or knows someone who's had such success with that site.

 

I feel like I'll give it a whirl. What's the worst that can happen? Just keep your boundaries in plain sight, know what you're looking for, don't put out early, get to know the guy. I feel like the only thing OLD will do is expand my circles of men. As of right now I go out with my friends, am always out doing things, but no one approaches me! If I want to start dating I'm going to have to make some moves, and I'm going at least give it a shot.

 

I met my girlfriend online. She's awesome. Out of all my dating experiences only one was with a woman I met at a party and as we got to know each other she turned out to be my complete opposite in every way. Despite my larger than life online personality I'm very shy and introverted in real life. There is no way in hell I would have met these women anywhere else.

 

Forums are full of all sorts of people and the ones with strongest opinions are the most likely to post something or share their experiences. That's why responses here can skew to the negative. This site is full of people with very negative attitudes on anything and everything. I have no doubt that is the reason why so many of the single folks here are single although they choose to blame someone other than themselves. This site is for discussion and there may not be as much motivation to share about positive experiences unless it's someone like me who has a lot of free time on my hands while at the office.

 

Any dating site worth its salt should have a "success stories" forum. Check it out.

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So a IQ of 140 makes a man a great conversationalist.

A man that is smart enough to challenge you ? So does this

Mean during sex you won't allow him to be on top ?

Would that be to "overpowering" and take away from you?

Many women who like to be ontop during sex get a very satisfying

Sneer and egotistical boost knowing they are in full control. Many

Dominate women often perfer to grab a mans balls and

Slap him in the face not only sexually but in everyday situations

Like what restaurant they will eat at or whats in the grocery kart.

While then smart brilliant man becomes castrated by his

mate. Reduced to nothing more then a wallet and shoulder

To cry on about a rough day at work.

 

While the less then brilliant IQ 100 average joe sticks

Up for himself. Does not put up with whining or letting

A women degrade him. He would just hop in his truck

Go fishing or ride his motocycle around the block. The

Average IQ man is a hard beast to tame.

 

While the smart nerd will obey with a yes maa aam .

The average IQ man with respond with " they are your

Clothes you fold um and no i ain't watching "sisterhood ya ya

Of the traveling pants ima go shoot some pool"

 

Lol. More like Sisterhood of the Wha Wha What tha feck.

 

Just for perspective, an IQ of 140 is considered genius level. Rest assured, the OP is not going to date the guy that reverse engineered the DOS operating system in second grade or that played Rachmaninov on the piano in third grade. Life doesn't work that way.

 

If you combine the 140 IQ (or 98th percentile) with dating qualifiers (attractiveness 80th+ percentile) you have a very small pool of eligible bachelors pining for your esteemed company.

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rocketman122
I met my girlfriend online. She's awesome. Out of all my dating experiences only one was with a woman I met at a party and as we got to know each other she turned out to be my complete opposite in every way. Despite my larger than life online personality I'm very shy and introverted in real life. There is no way in hell I would have met these women anywhere else.

 

Forums are full of all sorts of people and the ones with strongest opinions are the most likely to post something or share their experiences. That's why responses here can skew to the negative. This site is full of people with very negative attitudes on anything and everything. I have no doubt that is the reason why so many of the single folks here are single although they choose to blame someone other than themselves. This site is for discussion and there may not be as much motivation to share about positive experiences unless it's someone like me who has a lot of free time on my hands while at the office.

 

Any dating site worth its salt should have a "success stories" forum. Check it out.

 

Its so ironic that those who fail at dating, give advice to others.

the first comment is always break up with him. no wonder youre single. even for the stupid small stuff. many here should not be posting here because im certain theyre advice lead to breakups of many relationships. if youve never had a LTR you should not give advice to other people.

 

im 100% certain there are people here who purposely give bad advice because theyre frustrated and its their way to get back at others. the mindset, if im suffering, I want others to suffer as well.

 

as far as success on OLD. if youre good looking you will get and have offers. everyone is shallow and physical attraction is first and foremost. dont look for any other excuse besides that for the lack of success. if you dont get the date or telephone number its only because of that. if it was tom cruise or brad pitt the woman wouldnt care about talking on the phone she would rather meet them. when I spoke to women it was 5-10 minutes, and I closed a date. a few times they were so anxious and excited they called and asked if they can make the date earlier.

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BitterSweet2k

it's just one of many channels of getting to know people. The word "dating" ist just overrated. The more you try and force finding your "perfect match" the more it's likely to fail.

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I am intensely right brained. I am seeking someone who is intensely left brained. The enlightened 140+ IQ man can appreciate the Theater of Absurd and contrast the literary styles of Samual Beckett and Eugène Ionesco. He exudes masculinity because he is neither a homophobe nor feels castrated without his truck, fishing rod, or motorcycle. Those are wonderful pursuits for the average joe but not for him.

 

That has more to do with culture. IQ has nothing to do with it. I dated a man (we are now friends) with a genius level IQ who belongs to Mensa. He thinks they are, for the most part, a bunch of wankers. He isn't very culturally sophisticated -- it's not art to him if he can't recognize anything in the painting, actors who simulate sex in the movies are no better than prostitutes, he likes films with clear plot lines and action. He reads books about quantum physics and science. He is totally into cars. He is a bit of a jock -- loves rugby, goes hiking and biking, swims three times a week. I am more of a right brained person and it can be difficult at times.

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Its so ironic that those who fail at dating, give advice to others. the first comment is always break up with him.

And they give the same advice even if the boyfriend/girlfriend is treating you really well. "He/she is too clingy and needy" or "He is moving too fast -- red flag."

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Sorry about the controversial title, had to get you here...

 

In part, it is a legitimate concern... not that people are "losers" (because I'm considering it) but that people on dating sites aren't really genuine or looking for something serious. Or, I saw a post by a girl who's boyfriend is STILL on the dating site where they met.

 

Is this typical?

Anyone ever had luck with dating sites, free or paid and if so, which is better?

 

From my experience, the men that I have met online were losers in many different ways.

But, some of them were good for FWBs, some were OK for ONSs. Most of the men were not useful for anything even for ONSs.

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