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Necromancer

I don´t know freaking 1 female virgin. It doesn't matter how lame your personality is you can still get laid and a date if you are at least average and use make up.

 

One of my female friend is slightly above average with out make up....she has hordes of guys talking to her, she just has to choose. (average personality).

 

Then on the other hand i know a guy who is male 6.5-7/10 and he is a virgin. (average personality).

 

Who has it easier? they are both almost as good looking and have similar personality.

 

This is a FACT again? FACT.

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In my opinion neither has it easier as I don't see any mention of either wants.

 

If both want sex they're on the same ground as likely she can chose one of the hordes of guys talking to her and he can pay a prostitute or lower his standards until one gal says yes.

 

If both want a date they're on the same ground as likely she can choose one of the hordes of guys talking to her and he can pay an escort or lower his standards until one gal says yes.

 

If both want a long-term committed relationship with a person they find attractive, interesting, and fun to be around who reciprocates they're on equal ground as I think it's not easier for either gender to get that.

 

It's not a fact that 'female = easier dating' as likely it depends on the person as most likely a good looking guy has it easier than an ugly or average gal.

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In my opinion neither has it easier as I don't see any mention of either wants.

 

If both want sex they're on the same ground as likely she can chose one of the hordes of guys talking to her and he can pay a prostitute or lower his standards until one gal says yes.

 

If both want a date they're on the same ground as likely she can choose one of the hordes of guys talking to her and he can pay an escort or lower his standards until one gal says yes.

 

If both want a long-term committed relationship with a person they find attractive, interesting, and fun to be around who reciprocates they're on equal ground as I think it's not easier for either gender to get that.

 

It's not a fact that 'female = easier dating' as likely it depends on the person as most likely a good looking guy has it easier than an ugly or average gal.

 

Same ground? i laughed.

 

The guys are NOT ugly many of them are even above average who are interested in her. And then he needs to lower his standards?

 

So you are telling me women date up and men date down?

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Same ground? i laughed.

 

The guys are NOT ugly many of them are even above average who are interested in her. And then he needs to lower his standards?

 

So you are telling me women date up and men date down?

 

It's the same ground because if they want sex or dates she has the guys talking to her and he has prostitutes/escorts or lowering his standards.

 

Likely the above average guys are interested in sex with her and with the availability of prostitutes the other guy can easily get above average prostitutes.

 

Where did I state, suggest, or imply that women date up and men date down from stating the two people you're speaking of are on similar ground to me if they want sex, dates, or long-term relationship?

 

As for women date up and men date down I highly doubt that as it seems both genders date up women date up in wealth and men date up in looks.

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It's the same ground because if they want sex or dates she has the guys talking to her and he has prostitutes/escorts or lowering his standards.

 

Likely the above average guys are interested in sex with her and with the availability of prostitutes the other guy can easily get above average prostitutes.

 

Where did I state, suggest, or imply that women date up and men date down from stating the two people you're speaking of are on similar ground to me if they want sex, dates, or long-term relationship?

 

As for women date up and men date down I highly doubt that as it seems both genders date up women date up in wealth and men date up in looks.

 

We are talking about 18 year old people here and prostitution is illegal in my country. So she has easier time getting sex and dates (she doesn't have to do any ask out) and what would happen if he wouldn't ask out any girls?

 

Have you seen gals without make up? :eek: they drop instantly 2-3 points. Men are the prettier sex.

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Grass is always greener on the other side

 

From my personal experience it is. But i will never get to see if it really is.....to bad.

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From my personal experience it is. But i will never get to see if it really is.....to bad.

 

 

I know plenty of guys who have a ton of options...

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I know plenty of guys who have a ton of options...

 

To bad that´s only achievable at my age with looks. unless your father is a billionaire.

 

Yes and i know few guys to....but they are all above average in face.

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To bad that´s only achievable at my age with looks. unless your father is a billionaire.

 

 

More self limiting nonsense. I know guys who are average looking who have a good number of options

 

 

 

Confidence goes a long way

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We are talking about 18 year old people here and prostitution is illegal in my country. So she has easier time getting sex and dates (she doesn't have to do any ask out) and what would happen if he wouldn't ask out any girls?

 

Have you seen gals without make up? :eek: they drop instantly 2-3 points. Men are the prettier sex.

Bit curious as to why is age relevant as I though it was a matter of gender.

 

More curious as to 'what would happen if he doesn't ask out any girls' is a factor. Likely in this guy's case he'd remain in the same situation no different than if an obese gal didn't put effort into her looks and losing weight her options would remain pretty much the same. More likely if the guy you were talking about was attractive or appealing enough he'd get sex and dates without asking out any gals as my experience has been such guys usually have gals approaching and pursuing him.

 

I highly doubt men are the prettier sex considering research* shows women evolve to be more beautiful while men don't. Seems more likely that men are judged less harshly on physical apperance than women.

 

* Markus Jokela, University of Helsinki

* 2006, London School of Economics

* A recent study revealed that women are getting better looking through evolution; meanwhile, men are staying the same. After following more than 2,000 people through four decades of life, the study showed that attractive women had 16 percent more children than average-looking chicks and that beautiful people are 36 percent more likely to have a daughter as their firstborn. All those gorgeous daughters mean more beautiful women than in past generations.

 

Though if you feel men are the prettier sex then why not pursue men or if you're upset at not being able to get sex and dates without asking out gals why not invest in plastic surgery to look better or a sex change to become a woman?

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More self limiting nonsense. I know guys who are average looking who have a good number of options

 

 

 

Confidence goes a long way

 

I am far from being some self limiting beta mindset dude, i am always improving.

 

But i will never have ton of options....that´s just being realistic.

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I am far from being some self limiting beta mindset dude

 

But i will never have ton of options....

 

 

That's a juicy contradiction, what you said there sounds EXACTLY like a beta mindset

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It's because people are becoming pro-muslim and they are into poly. That means less girls to go around - sorry.

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That's a juicy contradiction, what you said there sounds EXACTLY like a beta mindset

 

I might be slightly above average looking at 5"10.

 

Of course some girls will like me...but aiming for tons of options is not realistic.

 

I know myself better than any of you. I am pretty out going dude, but i have a roasted personality and few gals have claim that i am pretty strange dude irl after hanging out with me few times. :laugh:

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Females have easier time getting sex/casual relationships.

 

Getting a serious relationship is just as hard as for males, perhaps even harder.

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Bit curious as to why is age relevant as I though it was a matter of gender.

 

More curious as to 'what would happen if he doesn't ask out any girls' is a factor. Likely in this guy's case he'd remain in the same situation no different than if an obese gal didn't put effort into her looks and losing weight her options would remain pretty much the same. More likely if the guy you were talking about was attractive or appealing enough he'd get sex and dates without asking out any gals as my experience has been such guys usually have gals approaching and pursuing him.

 

I highly doubt men are the prettier sex considering research* shows women evolve to be more beautiful while men don't. Seems more likely that men are judged less harshly on physical apperance than women.

 

* Markus Jokela, University of Helsinki

* 2006, London School of Economics

* A recent study revealed that women are getting better looking through evolution; meanwhile, men are staying the same. After following more than 2,000 people through four decades of life, the study showed that attractive women had 16 percent more children than average-looking chicks and that beautiful people are 36 percent more likely to have a daughter as their firstborn. All those gorgeous daughters mean more beautiful women than in past generations.

 

Though if you feel men are the prettier sex then why not pursue men or if you're upset at not being able to get sex and dates without asking out gals why not invest in plastic surgery to look better or a sex change to become a woman?

 

Money doesn't come much into play at my age, unless your poor as **** and can´t buy cloths.

 

No 18 year old at my country is going to buy a prostitute unless he is weird as fuark.

 

I am not talking about obese people here, who of those two will have easier time getting laid and dates without effort if they are in the same physical shape.? 1.(the guy 2.(the gal

 

Because i am straight male. I have often asked out girls... that´s not the point i am making. The point is Who has it easier?

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It's basic supply and demand. I live in a town where the women outnumber the men so of course the men will do better than the women.

 

I have a male friend who’s in his 40s. He’s short, chubby, and unattractive and he gets hot women all the time. It’s crazy really. He shows me pictures and I’m shocked at the caliber of women he gets. He has some money and a good sense of humor, so maybe this is why.

 

On the other hand, I’m an attractive female and I rarely get dates. My bar tab was covered tonight by the bartender (I assume because I’m pretty), but other than some free drinks I get very little out of being an attractive female. My chubby male friend is getting A LOT more sex than I am (I'm getting none :mad:). No one is trying to sleep with me whereas he's having to turn down hot women.

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A ton of options would add up to only about 16 women. Check my math, but that sounds possible for an average guy.

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Money doesn't come much into play at my age, unless your poor as **** and can´t buy cloths.

 

No 18 year old at my country is going to buy a prostitute unless he is weird as fuark.

 

I am not talking about obese people here, who of those two will have easier time getting laid and dates without effort if they are in the same physical shape.? 1.(the guy 2.(the gal

 

Because i am straight male. I have often asked out girls... that´s not the point i am making. The point is Who has it easier?

Money does come into play with your question of women dating up and men dating down that I responded with 'I think women date up financial wise and men date up appearance wise'. Nowhere in that question did you state, suggest, or imply age was a factor rather than gender.

 

The guy being weird as fuark is irrevelant the point still stands he likely has the option of paying a prostitute.

 

I know what you're talking about and I answered it neither has it easier as if they want dates/sex both can use the options available to them, lower their standards, pay prostitutes, or pay escorts. In your case the gal has options available to her and the guy can lower his standards, pay prostitutes or escorts.

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Bit curious as to why is age relevant as I though it was a matter of gender.

 

There is a loose correlation between age and desirability as it relates to gender. Females tend to have the advantage over males in terms of desirability in their younger years, while that advantage gradually decreases with age until the point where males gain a clear advantage in desirability.

 

I postulate that this is due to "traditional" values when it came to mating...women were chosen for their youth, beauty, and ability to bear good lookin' kids, while men were chosen for the ability to support those children. As women age, they will naturally lose that youth, beauty, and child-bearing ability, while men will substantially increase their ability to support as they age.

 

I would offer the question, why does it seem like the folks who complain most about dating are younger men and older women...?

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Money does come into play with your question of women dating up and men dating down that I responded with 'I think women date up financial wise and men date up appearance wise'. Nowhere in that question did you state, suggest, or imply age was a factor rather than gender.

 

The guy being weird as fuark is irrevelant the point still stands he likely has the option of paying a prostitute.

 

I know what you're talking about and I answered it neither has it easier as if they want dates/sex both can use the options available to them, lower their standards, pay prostitutes, or pay escorts. In your case the gal has options available to her and the guy can lower his standards, pay prostitutes or escorts.

 

He can´t buy prostitutes it´s illegal. (At least where i live and if you have to buy prostitute to get sex you are weird.)

 

Why does the guy have to lower his standards while the girl hasn ́t? she has it easier, because of more options for sex.

 

With your thinking...... ****ing a tree would be success.

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There is a loose correlation between age and desirability as it relates to gender.

He wasn't talking about age in relation to desirability rather age in relation to money.

 

He was stating responding to his women date up/men date down question with it seems women date up in wealth and men date up in looks doesn't apply as money doesn't come into play in the ages he's talking about. I was wondering why age is a factor when his question made it seem as if it was a matter of gender.

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