bac Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 i told them they where both cute but should use their youth to its fullest because after 28/30 it will be only downhill for them in the look department. QUOTE] Did you explain the delusional girls how to use their youth to its fullest? Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Who knows. Those 17 year old girls who are partying it up might be the smart ones...they might know that their time of most men going porn-fantasy crazy over them is only going to last about ten to twenty years so they might as well live it to the fullest. There is no way to get out of aging, and a lot of men are never going to even pay attention to what they say once they do. Not getting 'extra benefits' from the drooling horndogs due to one's 'hotness' doesn't mean that a woman is doomed to the sort of completely futile life that you describe. Plenty of women never even get to the 'extra benefits' stage, at any age. Those are the average-looking ones who don't bother with the 'makeup and contacts and flat-ironing their hair', and many of them still obtain respect and love, both in their working lives and out. I won't lie, I agree that there are obstacles to a woman in a traditionally male-dominated career field, but it is nowhere near as drastic as you describe, in which 'nobody ever has the same respect and opinion for a woman's work as a man's'. If you feel the difference is so drastic, it is likely because you were riding on the false attention borne of appearance for most of your life, so when that disappeared, the discrepancy was stark. To people who have never relied on their appearance to get them where they are, the difference isn't that great. There are people who genuinely care about what I have to say on certain topics because I am genuinely competent in them. Would there be more people wanting to hear me talk in general, if I were 'hot'? Sure, but who cares? Build yourself a foundation of competency and excellence without depending on your appearance, is my suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Not getting 'extra benefits' from the drooling horndogs due to one's 'hotness' doesn't mean that a woman is doomed to the sort of completely futile life that you describe. Plenty of women never even get to the 'extra benefits' stage, at any age. Those are the average-looking ones who don't bother with the 'makeup and contacts and flat-ironing their hair', and many of them still obtain respect and love, both in their working lives and out. I won't lie, I agree that there are obstacles to a woman in a traditionally male-dominated career field, but it is nowhere near as drastic as you describe, in which 'nobody ever has the same respect and opinion for a woman's work as a man's'. If you feel the difference is so drastic, it is likely because you were riding on the false attention borne of appearance for most of your life, so when that disappeared, the discrepancy was stark. To people who have never relied on their appearance to get them where they are, the difference isn't that great. There are people who genuinely care about what I have to say on certain topics because I am genuinely competent in them. Would there be more people wanting to hear me talk in general, if I were 'hot'? Sure, but who cares? Build yourself a foundation of competency and excellence without depending on your appearance, is my suggestion. Your attack on the poster is completely unnecessary and it is misguided, she is quite correct. I say collect a few more years of adult experience under your belt before you speak on the perception of women so authoratively. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Your attack on the poster is completely unnecessary and it is misguided, she is quite correct. I say collect a few more years of adult experience under your belt before you speak on the perception of women so authoratively. There was no attack. If I am attacking someone, they will know it. I'm glad to see that all that maturity has taught you is that your personal experience is the only one that matters. Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 In my forties, still cute, get looked at all the time, by men of all ages You get looked only for sex. Men looking at you in terms of marriage material is highly unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 So, Emilia. Since you only popped in to pick on my post and didn't elaborate, I have a few questions for you that I'm genuinely curious about and want to pick your 'more experienced' brain for. Now that you are an older woman, do you generally find these to be true for you: Often you'll land work fairly easily, but it will be for horrible pay and a "nurturing" position, even in a tech field. --- deep down they'll never have the same amount of respect for a woman's work or opinion as a man's --- However, I think there's an age you reach where you find that some of the power and respect that you thought you had, had to do with the high heels, makeup and the hair dye rather than anything that came out of your mouth. --- There is no way to get out of aging, and a lot of men are never going to even pay attention to what they say once they do. So, have all of the above been true for you? Do you find that you are respected less in the workplace and listened to less because you are getting older, and do people respect your work less than a man's? Why do you still enjoy working, then? Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) You get looked only for sex. Men looking at you in terms of marriage material is highly unlikely. Yup, so what? -- most men who are looking for marriage material START off by checking THAT one off their list -- that she is sexable... Besides, I've been off the market since the age of 21! My husband didn't waste any time marrying me within 7 months of meeting me... I am still married, so 'marriage material' is not available from my side. Btw, two men this year have stated they would marry me if I were available... both of them more than a decade younger than me. I don't take them seriously, since I have no interest. Edited September 5, 2012 by Athena Link to post Share on other sites
GorillaTheater Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 One thing I've noticed as I've gotten older is that the women I find "cute" have gotten older as well. Funny how that works. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Yup, so what? -- most men who are looking for marriage material START off by checking THAT one off their list -- that she is sexable... Besides, I've been off the market since the age of 21! My husband didn't waste any time marrying me within 7 months of meeting me... I am still married, so 'marriage material' is not available from my side. Btw, two men this year have stated they would marry me if I were available... both of them more than a decade younger than me. I don't take them seriously, since I have no interest. Men will say anything to get laid. Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 One thing I've noticed as I've gotten older is that the women I find "cute" have gotten older as well. Funny how that works. Maybe because you're a white knight phaggot. Link to post Share on other sites
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