sally4sara Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 When I was a teenager, I was a cute one. When I was in my 20s, I was a cute 20 something. I'm in my 30s and guess what? I'm a cute 30 something. I see no reason to believe I won't be a cute 40, 50, and on something when those years arrive. Since I don't run around like like I can suck the vitality out of others or its like we date for points - I don't care if I don't look cute to teenagers or people I consider too young to bother with if I were single. As long as my husband likes what he sees - thats all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ummm, yes...? I might go so far as to say I'll look spectacular far into my 80's. Based on your pics, you stand a chance Maybe thats what drove you to cheat ? William - can we have a bored. yawning smilie please. I feel there is a need 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 17 and they smoke and drink.. wonderful Women ARE attractive forever.. it's all relative.. a woman in her 40's will be attractive to men in their 40's and so on... Men face the the same aging and being attractive as do women... You won't see a 50 year old man looking great to some girl who is 22, a 22 year old girl will see a 50 year old man as old no matter what he looks like..... He will look great to a woman in her 50's... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Actually I started lifting at 15 benched 270 @ 175 when i was 16. But i quit earlier this year. Yes i am still in good shape and take care of myself thank you. Seriously.. you are basing your attractiveness on what you bench ? You do realize that what you bench is only impressive to young girls... Any girl past 18 could care a less what you bench... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Seriously.. you are basing your attractiveness on what you bench ? You do realize that what you bench is only impressive to young girls... Any girl past 18 could care a less what you bench...It's not what he benches but how he benches...his partner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Did anyone else notice how this thread is no longer a "spectacular thread"....? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 OP, it never ceases to amuse me how you vacillate between 'OMG QQ woe is me for I am a man and women hold all the cards in dating and it's so much easier to be a woman!' and 'Lol @ dem bitches, sucks to be them'. I really wish I could be your psychologist so I could better observe how this sort of disorder develops, honest to god. Link to post Share on other sites
Els Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Did anyone else notice how this thread is no longer a "spectacular thread"....? I think the right word for it is 'outstanding'. :lmao::lmao: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 A question for the "boys": (OP, dreamerisland, Bob_Funk and Shaun-dro, even though the latter is middle aged himself - he is still very much a boy and not a man) Why are you so very invested in what women should be doing with their looks? What do you care about what their "peak" is and how they are going to "be sorry" when it's over? Do you have moms? Do you think that your moms are sitting around dejected because they aren't 17 years old any more? I hope they aren't. Yes, I realize that some grown women do that. There is something sadly missing for such women. I don't even know a single one of them, though I did see some examples at a high school reunion. I'm over 50. I often say (laughing) that the best cliche ever coined is "youth is wasted on the young." It sure would be cool if I could have all the physical attributes I did when I was 20 (mostly the complete vigor and the long stretch of it still ahead - even more than "hotness," which is pretty overrated by you guys) with all the wisdom I have now, I would be a true juggernaut! One thing I can assure you I would NOT spend my youthful vigor on, if I had it again, would be trying to snag the most alpha, or most "good" male to reproduce with before it was "too late," as you guys all seem to believe we would if we only had the … wisdom. I truly and sincerely swear to you that I am telling the truth. We all have youth and then we all move past it, if we are fortunate enough to live that long. It's a brief moment in life; it encompasses a lot of beauty and a lot of pain and ignorance, usually. It's a part of life. It's not the be all and end all of ANYTHING. The rest of our lives brings other aspects that are (in my opinion, and I've been through a lot) more compelling than being "hot" at some point. All that said - I do agree that the girls should quit smoking and drinking. It does age a person and also causes serious issues for lots of people. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaii50 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 *** Unless you're of Asian decent.. in which case you'll look great until you're 45. Then, magically your teeth will break mathematical planes and your face becomes your neck's refugee. *** Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 My mother and father tell me I'm still cute. There's no need to dispute their opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Marina81 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Looks fade with age but so do superficial values, such as judging someone based on looks. This is why at 40 you might look less youthful, but equally you value wisdom and life experience in someone more than you did in your 20s. Attraction and appeal are not limited to aesthetics. That sort of thinking will leave you lonely and empty. And ultimately with a very ugly future. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KeepMeInMind Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Let them keep smoking and drinking. They'll get what's coming to them. Have you watched a loved one wither away and die from lung cancer? Particularly a fairly young parent of two children? Maybe you'd be less quick to wish that one someone. They should be encouraged to quit, not encouraged to continue and "get what's coming to them." They aren't rapists, for crying out loud. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KeepMeInMind Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Seriously.. you are basing your attractiveness on what you bench ? You do realize that what you bench is only impressive to young girls... Any girl past 18 could care a less what you bench... Not true. I'm much older than 18, and work out, and I can definitely appreciate the time, dedication, hard work, and genetics involved in the bench or anything else deemed "impressive" at the gym. Unless, by being impressed, you mean instant panty dropping. In that case, I tend to agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesblame Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Everyone in their late teens is an egoist who assumes they'll always be on their way up. It has nothing to do with gender. The secret is that the older you get, the more "forgiving" you get of other peoples' flaws. Mostly because you'll have tons of them. Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 And of course men will look like Greek gods all their lives No, we will not, but we don't rely on our youth and beauty like women do. Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 No, we will not, but we don't all rely on our youth and beauty like some women do. Corrected for you 2 Link to post Share on other sites
soccerrprp Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I live in a city where nice cars, breast implants(joking, but so many women have them around here, it seems) and beauty are overtly valued (sick!). Status is important. Anyway, friends, female, who are in the dating scene have expressed some annoyance with the men in the area who seemed to be "too" focused on how a woman looks and will look. As one friend of mine expressed, "the guys seem to be worried that my looks will fade away." In other words, there are those who seem to think or desperately want in a potential mate the impossible possibility that her looks will always remain even in the twilight of one's life. Link to post Share on other sites
Awesome Username Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) As a woman in her late twenties, I'm aware of the "decrease in value" of women in the eyes of men over time. Being a young woman will allow you a lot of opportunities, but usually for the wrong reasons. Often you'll land work fairly easily, but it will be for horrible pay and a "nurturing" position, even in a tech field. The amount of older woman who are in poverty compared to men is staggering, and it seems as though you can either A: Find a rich man when you're young, marry him, and you're set or B: Make all of your money when you're young sacrificing a lot of fun/partying, and save up a nest egg instead of spending it on useless material items. If you deviate from these plans, your life will be a lot more difficult. I live and work now in a place where there is almost no women as far as the eye can see. There is one girl that works at a coffee shop that I go to in the morning, and I tip her a lot every day because she's the only woman I see who's sweet to me for no reason. I've also just hired a girl today, thank God. That makes two of us in our department. I've known a lot of men as my friends, and though they're good people I know that deep down they'll never have the same amount of respect for a woman's work or opinion as a man's. I hate to say it, but often I see men do a great job at being creative while women are left behind and/or happy in mediocrity. People even expect it. It makes me sick, and I even hate myself sometimes for it. Even today, I was looking up a brand of markers. While looking, I found that in testimonial interviews men used them for beautiful industrial designs, architecture, top-shelf comic art, and other amazing things. Women use them for scrapbooking, illustrating diaries, and drawing flowers. Which use of these markers do you think brings their user more money? What does this say about female priorities? It takes more time and effort for a man to earn respect than a woman does, but the kind of respect an amazing man commands is almost unreachable by a woman. From personal experience I'm certainly no 10 on the looks scale, but I'm aware that some of the guys in my past that have "respected" me don't necessarily have to to do with my intelligence. Lately I've been at odds at myself and my constant ache to be more beautiful on the outside for power, likability and respect. I have stopped putting on the makeup, contact lenses and flat-ironing my hair because I feel like I'm sick of the lie. I want to just be a bookworm and start the aging process now, because respect based on looks and youth isn't any sort of "respect" that holds true in the scheme of things. My mother is starting to be overlooked for young, hot girls in their early 20s for her job, because the boss is a pervert that like to take photos of his employees. Elsewhere people think that cute, young teenage girls are more "approachable." I know this garbage will happen to me someday. I wish that men understood the dichotomy between wanting to feel glamorous, young and and beautiful, and wanting to settle down and finally be respected as a woman rather than a "chick." It seems like we want everything, and I guess in a way we do. However, I think there's an age you reach where you find that some of the power and respect that you thought you had, had to do with the high heels, makeup and the hair dye rather than anything that came out of your mouth. This realization makes feeling pretty less fun. I wish more people saw women as humans with the same pain and anger as men but within a different set of rules and fear. A woman for the most part is expected to be polite, a hot girlfriend, and a good mother. That's about it. There's nothing worse than the thought of a woman's lasting legacy to the world was that "She was nice," or "She was hot!" Who knows. Those 17 year old girls who are partying it up might be the smart ones...they might know that their time of most men going porn-fantasy crazy over them is only going to last about ten to twenty years so they might as well live it to the fullest. There is no way to get out of aging, and a lot of men are never going to even pay attention to what they say once they do. Edited August 23, 2012 by Awesome Username Link to post Share on other sites
SushiX Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 There's no arguing that most people looks decline after 30. But older men can date younger hotties, but most older women cannot. Ladies in their 20s better make the best of their youth now! Link to post Share on other sites
strongnrelaxed Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 It has been my experience that women have the upper hand in terms of looks when they are young. And men do better when they are older. Not TOO old, but older. The same things that harden the face of men and make them look more masculine happens to women too. So men who prefer a more masculine look will appreciate older women. Yes, it is a sweeping generalization, but everyone else here is doing it, so "when in Rome..." The problem is not so much with who ages well or not. The challenge is when someone relies solely on their looks in their youth and when they get older they have nothing more substantive to offer partners. This is a sad thing to behold. We have all seen that person whose style is stuck in an era 30 years past. Or others who wear too much makeup. Or bald with a mullet etc. I wish I could remember the quote exactly, but someone recently told me something like "the face we have then we're 20 is the face our parents gave us. The face we have when we're 50 is the face we earned through our choices" Makes sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
strongnrelaxed Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 As a woman in her late twenties, I'm aware of the "decrease in value" of women in the eyes of men over time. I live and work now in a place where there is almost no women as far as the eye can see. There is one girl that works at a coffee shop that I go to in the morning, and I tip her a lot every day because she's the only woman I see who's sweet to me for no reason. I've also just hired a girl today, thank God. That makes two of us in our department. I've known a lot of men as my friends, and though they're good people I know that deep down they'll never have the same amount of respect for a woman's work or opinion as a man's. I hate to say it, but often I see men do a great job at being creative while women are left behind and/or happy in mediocrity. People even expect it. It makes me sick, and I even hate myself sometimes for it. Even today, I was looking up a brand of markers. While looking, I found that in testimonial interviews men used them for beautiful industrial designs, architecture, top-shelf comic art, and other amazing things. Women use them for scrapbooking, illustrating diaries, and drawing flowers. Which use of these markers do you think brings their user more money? What does this say about female priorities? It takes more time and effort for a man to earn respect than a woman does, but the kind of respect an amazing man commands is almost unreachable by a woman. From personal experience I'm certainly no 10 on the looks scale, but I'm aware that some of the guys in my past that have "respected" me don't necessarily have to to do with my intelligence. Lately I've been at odds at myself and my constant ache to be more beautiful on the outside for power, likability and respect. I have stopped putting on the makeup, contact lenses and flat-ironing my hair because I feel like I'm sick of the lie. I want to just be a bookworm and start the aging process now, because respect based on looks and youth isn't any sort of "respect" that holds true in the scheme of things. My mother is starting to be overlooked for young, hot girls in their early 20s for her job, because the boss is a pervert that like to take photos of his employees. Elsewhere people think that cute, young teenage girls are more "approachable." I know this garbage will happen to me someday. I wish that men understood the dichotomy between wanting to feel glamorous, young and and beautiful, and wanting to settle down and finally be respected as a woman rather than a "chick." It seems like we want everything, and I guess in a way we do. However, I think there's an age you reach where you find that some of the power and respect that you thought you had, had to do with the high heels, makeup and the hair dye rather than anything that came out of your mouth. This realization makes feeling pretty less fun. I wish more people saw women as humans with the same pain and anger as men but within a different set of rules and fear. A woman for the most part is expected to be polite, a hot girlfriend, and a good mother. That's about it. There's nothing worse than the thought of a woman's lasting legacy to the world was that "She was nice," or "She was hot!" Who knows. Those 17 year old girls who are partying it up might be the smart ones...they might know that their time of most men going porn-fantasy crazy over them is only going to last about ten to twenty years so they might as well live it to the fullest. There is no way to get out of aging, and a lot of men are never going to even pay attention to what they say once they do. This is one of the most impressive and candid treatments of this topic by a young woman I have ever read. Too often these subjects are met with plenty of emotion and passion but not enough insight. I am approaching 50 years old and I am the last of the old school men. I am not one of the real old school men who were misogynist etc. but I was born literally in the last year one could be considered a baby boomer. Too many idealistic men of that generation had their perspectives warped by extreme opinions on both sides. Now they are in charge and bitter and angry - just like the previous generation of men. In the meantime your generation gets the short end. Your decision to focus more on your talents and less on your looks will go a long way to earning you respect from men in the workplace. I have worked in a variety of fields and I have not seen as much egregiously bad behavior as I read about sometimes. Maybe this depends on where you work. Women who use looks to get ahead will be resented by men who don't have that ability - although many men do this and don't realize it. Women will also be sexually harrassed for the foreseeable future, but not forever. Women of real substance and intelligence go far. I have seen many successful women in my life so whereever you live you might want to move to a city or more educated area where women are respected. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm old enough to be your grandma and I'm still cute. Laugh your ass off! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Athena Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 In my forties, still cute, get looked at all the time, by men of all ages 2 Link to post Share on other sites
darkmoon Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 In my forties, still cute, get looked at all the time, by men of all ages in my sixties, and this happens to me too if you are one of those LS men who hate women winning and challenge Athena and me, i say get help with your miserable ego 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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