Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Wow, this is a sign of disrespect, huh? Or could it be that her past has made it all too clear just how unsavory the act is for her and wouldn't like to do it again. OP, why do you feel so strongly? Because it's what YOU selfishly enjoy and she won't do it for you...that she's done it before to others and you feel selfishly slighted, so angry about it...is your relationship good otherwise? But she does give you blow-jobs, right? W/o swallowing, right? So, it's just because she won't SWALLOW as she did in the past....sorry, this alone is not sexual compatibility, it sounds like self-centeredness and irrational insecurity. Does she "love" you, take care of you and satisfy you in other ways? Man, just because she won't swallow....some people don't deserve to have a good partner... Did you ask her why she doesn't now? If she says that she really doesn't like it, would that be enough? I suspect that you rationale to dump her would be just as irrational as the tone of your anger over this small thing as I see it...how convenient that she performs this act from the ages of 16 to 29 and then after swallowing God knows hows much cum over 13 years suddenly decides she's had her last drop and quits cold Turkey the day she met me Link to post Share on other sites
snug.bunny Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 How in the world can I not fold to the bunny in your avatar. Soft bunny. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 how convenient that she performs this act from the ages of 16 to 29 and then after swallowing God knows hows much cum over 13 years suddenly decides she's had her last drop and quits cold Turkey the day she met meYou want to punish her. That's part of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Wow, this is a sign of disrespect, huh? Or could it be that her past has made it all too clear just how unsavory the act is for her and wouldn't like to do it again. OP, why do you feel so strongly? Because it's what YOU selfishly enjoy and she won't do it for you...that she's done it before to others and you feel selfishly slighted, so angry about it...is your relationship good otherwise? But she does give you blow-jobs, right? W/o swallowing, right? So, it's just because she won't SWALLOW as she did in the past....sorry, this alone is not sexual compatibility, it sounds like self-centeredness and irrational insecurity. Does she "love" you, take care of you and satisfy you in other ways? Man, just because she won't swallow....some people don't deserve to have a good partner... Did you ask her why she doesn't now? If she says that she really doesn't like it, would that be enough? I suspect that you rationale to dump her would be just as irrational as the tone of your anger over this small thing as I see it...the woman does please me. She never says no to sex and never turns down giving me head. I can't fault her for any of that. BUT if everyone can let it loose in her mouth, then why can't I? Let me reiterate that I receive no satisfaction from a woman swallowing. But this woman is an admitted swallowed... so why wont she swallow mine? Or even let it in her mouth for that matter? Or at least have the decency to tell me honestlt why after she sees I'm going crazy over it! Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCross Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 the woman does please me. She never says no to sex and never turns down giving me head. I can't fault her for any of that. BUT if everyone can let it loose in her mouth, then why can't I? Let me reiterate that I receive no satisfaction from a woman swallowing. But this woman is an admitted swallowed... so why wont she swallow mine? Or even let it in her mouth for that matter? Or at least have the decency to tell me honestlt why after she sees I'm going crazy over it! Instead of all this bitching and whining. Why dont you just not tell her when your about to shoot. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 You want to punish her. That's part of it. Punish her for what? Being with other guys? I don't want to punish her. I want her to want me the same way she wanted them... or admit to me that she doesn't want me the same way. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Punish her for what? Being with other guys? I don't want to punish her. I want her to want me the same way she wanted them... or admit to me that she doesn't want me the same way.You want her to allow you to disrespect her, the same as the other guys? So if her past b/fs beat her up emotionally and/or physically, you'd insist she allow you to do same? Consider your logic. There isn't any. Link to post Share on other sites
snug.bunny Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Well I've done it plenty of ways... on different occasions.. at first I just tried to get it, thinking she was down for it. After a while I was just like "why wont u ever do it? You've done it with other men" ... then later... " how do you think that makes me feel that you would do it for someone else but not me?" . I've tried to have civil talks and asked for honest reasons and what did those me have that I don't?.I've told her how insecure I am about it.. I've also tried to get her to do it in the heat of the moment and she leads me to believe its gonna happen but the she backs out. All civil approaches failed and i tried demanding it from her thinking that maybe she wanted me to be a man and take control but she backed off at the last second. Honestly, this just sounds like it is a sore spot for her, and it may be something she is never going to agree to do. If you can't live with knowing that she may never come around, then I am afraid your relationship is headed to nowhere fast. I don't think it is fair of her to lead you to believe it will happen. It would be so much better, if one day, she did it because she truly wanted **it** versus doing it to assauge feelings of inadequacy. Tough call. I wouldn't want my guy feeling inadequate, but then again, I wouldn't want to do something that I wasn't comfortable with doing for **whichever** personal reasons. If he made me feel bad over it, then I really wouldn't want to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCross Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I just dont get it, she lets you stick it up her ass, but she wont swallow. How bout you agree to not stick it up her ass and keep it vanilla. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 By the way - I HATE swollowing. It is disgusting. It taste like crap. I have done it oce for my partner just to " try " it out, but he never asks me, and I have talked openly to him about it. I told him I do not lie it, but because it is on HIM - I would never " hate" it with him, I just would not " love it" the same way I like other things with him that are not physicall unpleasant. He does not think it is a big deal, so I don't do it; he nows if he is craving it however, he KNOWS he can ask for it, because although I dislie the taste and actual act of it, my love for him makes it bearable. If she truly despises it, it is NOT because of you, the guys before her left a very bad taste in her mouth! Because it is nothing personal against you and your penis in all likelyhood, if you really love her, is it really a big deal about the swollowing? In my mind, with true love, if you are at the stage where you wish to spend your lives together, surely getting head jobs without the swollowing would be enough? It aint easy to find the right partner, are you sure you need that one little extra sex element, of swollowing, in an otherwise good sex life? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCross Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 By the way - I HATE swollowing. It is disgusting. It taste like crap. I have done it oce for my partner just to " try " it out, but he never asks me, and I have talked openly to him about it. I told him I do not lie it, but because it is on HIM - I would never " hate" it with him, I just would not " love it" the same way I like other things with him that are not physicall unpleasant. He does not think it is a big deal, so I don't do it; he nows if he is craving it however, he KNOWS he can ask for it, because although I dislie the taste and actual act of it, my love for him makes it bearable. If she truly despises it, it is NOT because of you, the guys before her left a very bad taste in her mouth! Because it is nothing personal against you and your penis in all likelyhood, if you really love her, is it really a big deal about the swollowing? In my mind, with true love, if you are at the stage where you wish to spend your lives together, surely getting head jobs without the swollowing would be enough? It aint easy to find the right partner, are you sure you need that one little extra sex element, of swollowing, in an otherwise good sex life? If your sex life is so fabulous, why get a prostitute for your bloke 2wice a year Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 If your sex life is so fabulous, why get a prostitute for your bloke 2wice a year I don't do this now. And he is not the one who suggested " hey babe, look, your great and all, but I am not fullfilled by our sex life or YOU, and therefore need other women to satisfy me". It was not like that. He assumed I was like MOST normal women. He never brought up anything of the sort and was ver happy to just be normal and monogomus. I made a big mistake though, I can now see, in thinking that why should a guy not be able to have meaningless sex every now and again, once trhey are tied down? I thought that the same body for their entire life was not necessary, and they would enjoy having another womens body for meaningless sex every now and again. Howver, after VERY carefull consideration, I am no longer considering it for my partner. He is not phased and always maintains that he has better integrity than to be with a girl who he is not extremely happ with sexually, to as to need other women; that it was a perk I gave him, that he does not "need" to be very happy. I believe my boyfriend over a bunch of nasty, negative people over the internet. Who would not have the slightest idea of who Andrew is, and if he is lying to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Leigh 87 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 and I apologise for my lack of spelling, some of my keys do not work properly, and it is too much effort to go back and fix every post. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Anyways... I've taken everyone's posts into consideration. And I've also taken my past experiences into account. The three previous serious relationships I've had all ended the same way... my girlfriend leaving me for an exboyfriend that is more controlling, dominant, arrogant and cocky than I am. From my current posts you may not be able to tell but I am more of the gentle/attentive/affectionate types... and as time goes on, I am becoming to realize that this approach will not keep a woman with me. The more domineering ex always gets her ear and convinces her to comeback, and then months down the road I get the phonecall of her expressing regret and telling me I'm the best thing she ever had and she wants me back. Its the same thing every gf I have.... but not this time. It might seem petty to some of you. But my girlfriend swallowing cum of other men shows me that she is willing to submit to them. And in turn, by her not doing the same for me, shows me that she is not willing to submit to me. In my mind, she will leave me for someone who she is willing to submit, someone "swallow-worthy". Unless I dump her first. ... call me crazy, but in my experience, this is my reality. I really do love the girl honestly, and as bad as it sounds. She's gonna swallow when I get home tomorrow or she's OUT. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Ladies, if you're reading this thread, you're seeing the real life definition of what rapey means. Insecurity masking as false dominance. If she submits, she's a fool and will spend her life cycling through abusive men. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Asking my question again since it seemed to have gotten buried in three pages of debate... I have no clue... she doesn't give me any reasons... she just stalls perpetually Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Ladies, if you're reading this thread, you're seeing the real life definition of what rapey means. Insecurity masking as false dominance. If she submits, she's a fool and will spend her life cycling through abusive men. And ladies, many u know u never stand by a gentlemen, you always go back to the ass*ole that demanded blo jobs from u... so what you are witnessing is the real life transition of a decent man into a true assh*le. But I bet the next girl if I treat her like I'm her daddy, she wont go anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Author SpinScratch Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Bump. You haven't answered this question. Yes... if I ate roaches for all my exes I would do the same for her to... especially if I told her about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hindsight_is_20_20 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Yes... if I ate roaches for all my exes I would do the same for her to... especially if I told her about it. It's guys like you that ruin girls. It's not that you're an ******* that keeps her around, it's that you're manipulative to good girls and they think you actually love them. But you don't, you're just using them to fill some insecure void you have. She's not a blow up doll, she's not something to be controlled, she's a human being that has feelings and should be treated with respect. You already said you were satisfied with her sexually, and that she never refuses sex from you so this isn't about not being satisfied, it's about control. My ex boyfriend did the same thing to me. Told me I didn't love him if I didn't let him do whatever he wanted to me at least once. That's bull****. You ASK someone if they'd be okay with it, if they're not you drop it. I despise men like you. Men like you are the reason I am on this forum rebuilding my life one effing day at a time trying to figure how much of it was lies and who the hell I am anymore. I agree with the rest, break up with the poor girl before you completely wreck her life. Go find a prostitute that will let you use her so you can feel more like a man. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
snug.bunny Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 He didnt do anything wrong but question whether it was ok to be a MAN and dump someone because they werent doing what he liked I don't think "being a man" entails "dumping" someone because they won't swallow when it's not even something that is on the top of his "sexual wants/needs" list to begin with. If it were, he should have said it upfront. " I need to be with a woman who swallows". He would be breaking up with her, because HE cannot get past feeling insecure, which is perfectly reasonable. Everyone has their limitations and he shouldn't have to compromise his either. In fact, he'd be doing both of them a favor by ending the relationship. He is going to resent her for not doing it, and she will resent him and she feels pressured/forced into doing it. Lose/Lose. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 In fact, he'd be doing both of them a favor by ending the relationship. He is going to resent her for not doing it, and she will resent him and she feels pressured/forced into doing it. Lose/Lose. This should be the primary motivation behind ending the relationship. You can insert any issue into the blank. It doesn't matter whether it's swallowing semen or the desire to have kids (which is actually an issue I am trying to workout myself). If one wants something while the other doesn't, you will always have this dynamic. Add to bolded above: She will resent him and feel pressured to do it, or she'll feel bad that she can't provide what he wants. The latter can certainly grow into a bigger issue down the road... Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Couple Rules: 1) Dont roll in the mud with the women in this thread - dont argue with them. Makes you look like a woman 2) If you arent sexually satisified in your relationship - As a man it is your duty to fix it or leave the relationship. There are no if/ands/or buts about this. Women either put up or shut up. Thats their job. If they arent doing it, they dont deserve you 3) End the relationship - stop this troll of a thread and go to a bar and find a girl that will swallow and have some peace in your life. 7 months is not a long relationship and you should be able to recover quickly. Anything is better then someone elses garbage which she sounds likeYour advice has nothing to do with being a man. Link to post Share on other sites
snug.bunny Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 This should be the primary motivation behind ending the relationship. You can insert any issue into the blank. It doesn't matter whether it's swallowing semen or the desire to have kids (which is actually an issue I am trying to workout myself). If one wants something while the other doesn't, you will always have this dynamic. I would agree 100%, but in this case, swallowing was not something the OP wanted/had to have prior to this relationship...The motivitation for wanting it now, however, has changed... Add to bolded above: She will resent him and feel pressured to do it, or she'll feel bad that she can't provide what he wants. The latter can certainly grow into a bigger issue down the road... True. She can't provide what he wants/needs, in order for him to feel secure with himself and the relationship, without compromising herself in the process. Link to post Share on other sites
Hindsight_is_20_20 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Oh shut up, you and the rest of the post gigs women here are out of your mind. You were cheating on an ******* you married with another ******* and got dumped by both http://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/separation-divorce/340036-going-through-divorce-new-breakup-same-time Get over yourself. You reap what you sow. He didnt do anything wrong but question whether it was ok to be a MAN and dump someone because they werent doing what he liked You couldn't have your **** mixed up anymore. My ex husband and I mutually decided to see other people. I've never cheated on anyone. Maybe stick to something more relevant and get your facts straight before trying to tear someone apart on another one of your woman-hating tangents. Link to post Share on other sites
snug.bunny Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 4) DONT Debate with women - you are comparing apples and oranges (logic and projectional emotions). Example, when you go on a date, the 2 things you NEVER talk about are religion and politics. Theres a reason for this, both of you will LOSE even though you both each think you have won. Say what needs to be said and THATS it. Its set in stone. Its law Look at this thread, all post gigs women arguing with guys that are debating the meaning of life (sex). Its bull crap and has gone no where and each side thinks they have won. If a MAN ended this relationship, its set in stone, LAW, and there would be no discussion. Both people move on and both people eventually find happiness, NO NEED FOR DEBATE Then get out of this thread, simple. Link to post Share on other sites
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