Sav Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yeap vikki! good to hear that you're doing better. Me and my ex split up for about a month too. And trust me, it gets so much better than at first. Of course I think about that woman who dumped me more than I liked to. But then again, she was part of my life for so long, obviously I would miss her and the familiarity. The key to this is I KNOW it's the familiarity that I miss. Once I realized that, I realized I don't want the girl who broke my heart back. It really helped me to move on, although i do get lonely and upset sometimes. I went out with a friend today and it feels so good, no obligations, no need to report to someone, nothing. Just me having fun. Having someone there is great, but as you've discovered, being single is pretty awesome too . Hope you can continue this positive outlook that you now possess! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yeah I hope I can too as I am scared ill slip and I really dont want to! As every time I feel good like this I want to contact him just to have a chat, share my happiness not for a relationship just as a mate like anyone else. But I know I musnt! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
head/heels Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I am happy you are trying to get outside yourself and outside your house so that you can heal/progress. I agree that it would be wise not to contact him at any time so that you can heal. If he has a change of heart then he has to come to you and make amends and then you can decide what you want. But that may or may not come and you have to get better for yourself and the next person (or him if he does come back) so you can have a happy healthy relationship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thank you I dont think I want him back any more. Pretty certain on that. I just miss the routine and holidays. At what point can you be friends with your ex? When do you know your ready for that, what are the signs? Link to post Share on other sites
youngnlove89 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thank you I dont think I want him back any more. Pretty certain on that. I just miss the routine and holidays. At what point can you be friends with your ex? When do you know your ready for that, what are the signs? Trust me, you aren't ready to be friends with him right now. Your feelings will all come back the moment you hear that he is doing great without you. That moment when you stop asking if you are ready to be his friend or not, is the moment you will be ready to be friends. It's that moment when you feel indifferent. If you still think about him everyday, you aren't ready. TRUST ME. You don't need him anyways, let him go. A year from now, when the only time you think about him is when you literally spot him while at the gas station, then you are ready to be his friend. That moment where you no longer think about him is when you are ready to be his friend. The thing about that though is you won't care to be his friend by then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Okay I have a flickr account. I have been posting some pics up of my car recently, and animals. And today took some nice photos of myself. As soon as I put them up I know (from Flickr stats) That he looked at these photos. I didnt have him as a contact but he had me as a contact. Since putting these nice pics up of my face, his removed me!! Why would he do this? What a pratt! He wanted to be friends and doesnt love me any more so why remove me as a friend? IT doesnt bother me, but just makes me think I remove me if you wanted to be friends? I dont get it?? anyone know why he would do this? Can he not bare seeing hot photos of myself and so has removed me? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Also since this dream a week or so ago I cant stop thinking about this guy in my dream. I wish I knew if he liked me, as id love to go on a date with him in time. Seeing him in a whole new light and have a major crush on him! But as usual to afraid to admit it to him and probably wont at all! Link to post Share on other sites
youngnlove89 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Also since this dream a week or so ago I cant stop thinking about this guy in my dream. I wish I knew if he liked me, as id love to go on a date with him in time. Seeing him in a whole new light and have a major crush on him! But as usual to afraid to admit it to him and probably wont at all! 1. He probably deleted you because he has moved on. Don't read into it. He didn't delete you because he can't stand to see your pictures and misses you. He deleted you because he no longer cares. Because if he did care, he would've contacted you. 2. Are you talking about a guy in your dream that you want to meet? Isn't that impossible? Or is there really a guy in real life that you are having dreams of? If this dreamy guy really exists, go for it! What do you have to lose? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yeah this guy is real life, and have been chatting to another tonight, wow not thought once of David his made me feel that good! lol:o Its just fun talk though, nothing serious. The guy I had a dream about it a real person yeah! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Feel lost, its the weekend and they are always the hardest! Makes me always want to have him as a friend. A friend of mine has kept her EX on facebook and Twitter. Now I wouldnt want my Ex on there as I wouldnt be able to flirt with people on there now and then or be myself but I miss chats with him agrhh!! Link to post Share on other sites
youngnlove89 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Feel lost, its the weekend and they are always the hardest! Makes me always want to have him as a friend. A friend of mine has kept her EX on facebook and Twitter. Now I wouldnt want my Ex on there as I wouldnt be able to flirt with people on there now and then or be myself but I miss chats with him agrhh!! Why wouldn't you be able to flirt with them? Last time I checked you are SINGLE. So you went from smitten with this other guy to now missing David and wanting him in your life in any lowest form you can get. You got demoted. You want to go from GF to just a casual friend? I know the weekends are hard but this is even more consolation that you aren't ready to be friends yet. If you want to be friend with your EX, then do so. If you want him on social network sites, do it! Go ahead, but just know that it will make you feel even more miserable afterwards and you will be on here wishing you didn't talk to him. And then there is that chance that he won't respond to you and how would that make you feel? Or if he does respond and doesn't really want to talk so he is cold and short. Think about these things. Has he contacted you? Has he attempted to be friends? You need to remember all the reasons it DID NOT work. Re-read that list of yours. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Why wouldn't you be able to flirt with them? Last time I checked you are SINGLE. So you went from smitten with this other guy to now missing David and wanting him in your life in any lowest form you can get. You got demoted. You want to go from GF to just a casual friend? I know the weekends are hard but this is even more consolation that you aren't ready to be friends yet. If you want to be friend with your EX, then do so. If you want him on social network sites, do it! Go ahead, but just know that it will make you feel even more miserable afterwards and you will be on here wishing you didn't talk to him. And then there is that chance that he won't respond to you and how would that make you feel? Or if he does respond and doesn't really want to talk so he is cold and short. Think about these things. Has he contacted you? Has he attempted to be friends? You need to remember all the reasons it DID NOT work. Re-read that list of yours. I wouldnt be able to I guess so easily if I had David on my facebook as I wouldn't want to upset him or anything. Yeah because I dont think he would want me, and too afraid to do anything so given up for time being with that. Yeah I rather have him as a friend than a boyfriend. As some of the perks of chatting and company without all the bad stuff like seeing him and arguing! He hasnt attempted as I ignored his last text, as I said for him to give me time, thats what his doing. His lonely too like me and I am pretty certain wouldnt ignore me, he would want to be friends, his suggested it first off. But I am scared like you say I could be brought back down again, but should I put myself in to that pain whilst I am off work and have more support, or wait to i am back at work and things will be more tough and then contact him. But maybe then like you say I wont want to and wont care, but I am not so sure. I need to get some real life friends and a social life but its hard! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Arghh no I am ashamed to say I have broken no contact after doing so wll I feel I have let myself down and all you guys and I cant even admit that I contacted him to my mum. I feel awful for breaking it I was doing so well! I sent him a message saying hello, he replied. It has got my insides churned up inside, but hopefully that will pass. I want to be strong and can do it. I dont want him back, just wanted a chat, which Ive got but should have resisted! And in that I have failed! :-( Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) The conversation (Starts from bottom): Vikki: Cool have fun! I was going to go to minis by the sea as there is a really nice guy going that has a checkmate MINI that I wanted to meet to become friends with, but I just cant be bothered to go all that way tomorrow. Mornings havent been my thing lately, just cant get up!! Zzzz! And it was going to be an early one and the shows not that great! So going to do something with my mum instead! Yeah I am going to join a gym, Sam has given me the details its really cheap too as gyms go. Cool have fun! I think the nuts girls will be there! haha David: Hmm that's not good - well make sure you get on with her, it's the most important thing really. Yup will make you eat more, I've started walking 3 miles a day with marley to try and keep it under control. Off soon as going to Trax at 5am with Stephen! Vikki: The lady I am going to see deals with CBT and other stuff so going to see how she gets on with me. But priory is still an option if they will let me in! They never did phone back! The only side effect so far is eating more, and waking up about 3 times every night! But I dont know if that because I am not using up my energy like I would at work! David: Yea should be kicking in now, You still going to the priory at some point? Vikki: I'm still on my tablets and I do think they have kicked in now, its week 4. I went to counsellor in battle and hastings and am going to my new one on wednesday. I found talking to them has helped. I am hoping the one I will be paying for will be just as good. Vikki: haha yeah loads better! Last time I had that much time off was when I was about 4! lol Never had 8 weeks off! Yeah friends would be nice =) David: Fun is good! Wow that's great, bet that's made you feel better! The friendship offer is still open Vikki: haha no not yet! Had some fun dreams about people though! I dont go back to work to October 1st! So chuffed! lol Last time I was there was end of July! David: Nasty So have you found Mr Right yet? Vikki: Yeah Charlotte! Ah cool sounds nice. David: Oh no, sorry to hear that - is that charlotte? David: Yea pretty busy here, been up at dads for a while and various events. Vikki: Glad she's okay, hope marley gets better. Sis was taken to hospital today, shes had an absuss on her tooth and her face has gone massive! It almost shut her eye! They had to drain it out and take the tooth out! Rank! Been fairly busy, you? David: Not bad thanks - mum was in A&E this week with stomach pains but is ok. Marley's been ill too. You up to much? Vikki: No its me, I'm alright thank you. Hope your doing well too? David: Got an email from you saying hello? Dunno if it's spam or not. Hope you're doing well? Vikki: Helo Edited September 1, 2012 by Vikki_26 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Spoken to him tonight, and thinking you guys were right. It hurts a bit inside when he goes off from chat. I spoke about my dream with him and asked his thoughts if he thought this guy would like me. He couldnt handle it and said its close to the mark!? I said what mark. He then said he has slept with someone. Which I wasnt bothered about, his my ex, I dont care!? I wanted a nice chat but he jsut wasnt easy to get on with when i spoke about guys and all sorts. He was a bit boring and off. shame. I think he was lying about the sex anyway! Link to post Share on other sites
Mint Sauce Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 he sounds very insecure. Immediately asking whether you found mr right already... there's lots of room for interpretation here, but I wouldn't go there if I were you. My gut feeling is that you need to stay NC. He may start to mess with your feelings otherwise (not intentionally, but because he may be all over the place). NC will do both you and him good now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 he sounds very insecure. Immediately asking whether you found mr right already... there's lots of room for interpretation here, but I wouldn't go there if I were you. My gut feeling is that you need to stay NC. He may start to mess with your feelings otherwise (not intentionally, but because he may be all over the place). NC will do both you and him good now. What do you mean by interpretation? That it sounds like he likes me? He probably does, from his behaviour tonight. But he wont ever know what he wants. His a raving loon really. Why I only want him as a friend it really does. I just felt hurt when he said he had to go, as it sound like I had hurt him by discussing other guys. Why should it if his over me and slept with someone else? I want him to be my best friend, told him that, he wants to be friends. So why get all hurt over me talking about a mutual friend that I like? Why should I feel bad? Any why should he be hurt? he dumped me? Dont get why his obviously hurt by this! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 You two break up and instead of being civil, mature and respecting yourself and the other person... you both go out of your way to hurt, punish and torture each other. Why you both feel the need to do this, is beyond me. Me personally, I actually cared about, respected and loved the people I was with. Regardless if I am the dumper or the dumpee. I guess these days... it's not love until there is a restraining order! His trying to get one up on me. His slept with someone (supposedly) yeah right!! I dont care if he has but I am sure its a lie. Its like its a big competition between him and me. I didnt want that,I genuinely just wanted to ask him his thoughts as he wanted to help me find someone else. Link to post Share on other sites
beyond Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 His trying to get one up on me. His slept with someone (supposedly) yeah right!! I dont care if he has but I am sure its a lie. Really? I think you do care. Its like its a big competition between him and me. I didnt want that,I genuinely just wanted to ask him his thoughts as he wanted to help me find someone else. Really? You were engaged to this man, loved him and now you genuinely just want to ask his thoughts about this other man? Here's a thought. Why not just take some time out - be by yourself, learn about yourself,what went wrong in the relationship, what part you played in that, how you can avoid that next time . Seriously, what is the rush to date again? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 No rush to date, I just wanted a bit of fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Lol okay, if there is a next time I'll make sure we don't talk about relationshops and just nice stuff. That's what I wanna talk about anyway :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Gab09 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Hey Vikki, just wanted to congratulate you on your tough battle.. And though perhaps you have slipped in a way by contacting him to be "friends".. I know what you're going through, I just had to post this thank you for sharing your story with everybody else. It really helps to know that there are multiple broken hearts in this world :/ (as selfish as that sounds).. But it's the truth.. I just finished my 4+ year relationship and feel completely lost. I will be venting it on my own topic though, I sat in this seat probably for well over an hour just reading your whole story, and I can relate to you in a thousand ways. It's incredible the feeling you get, nothing can be compared to it, except maybe having somebody in your life just die.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Thanks, I'm just trying to deal with it in my own sort if way. Worried a bit now I've hurt him as he appears to have ignored me. Oh well. That's what I hated about him in our ex relationship! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Vikki_26 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Look at this guys if you can spare the time, this is what we are like. And I just dunno what to belive now. I am hurt. David days: Hello vikki says: (16:49:03) hello David says: (16:49:46) good day? vikki says: (16:49:58) yeah alright vikki says: (16:50:01) yours? David says: (16:50:06) not bad thx David says: (16:51:02) how's your man? vikki says: (16:51:47) oh havent heard much today, i dont like the way things have gone David says: (16:51:56) how come? vikki says: (16:52:08) i dont want to be someones quick shag basically vikki says: (16:52:24) need time on own David says: (16:52:31) good for you vikki says: (16:52:44) i dunno how it even got that way vikki says: (16:52:58) need to stop it going further David says: (16:53:07) was james w%%er right? vikki says: (16:53:20) right about what? David says: (16:53:31) I mean it was james w**r, right? vikki says: (16:53:43) no his not got a gf David says: (16:54:01) is it someone I know well? vikki says: (16:54:07) i only wanted a friend David says: (16:54:21) yea I know vikki says: (16:54:22) wouldnt say so no David says: (16:54:36) tell me then lol vikki says: (16:54:43) i cant lol vikki says: (16:54:49) its so bad vikki says: (16:55:00) he sent me a pic last night David says: (16:55:09) naked? vikki says: (16:55:14) i just want to hide now vikki says: (16:55:22) his got my mobile number vikki says: (16:55:47) i just felt a bit lonely, i want to fill the void in my life vikki says: (16:55:55) i dont even want a bf vikki says: (16:56:05) just someone to chst to, you know? David says: (16:56:10) yea I understand vikki says: (16:56:28) lol its making me sad writing it vikki says: (16:56:45) its only guys that i get on with though David says: (16:56:58) god knows why lol vikki says: (16:57:16) girls never seem to warm to me? David says: (16:57:38) because compeition that's all vikki says: (16:57:52) silly David says: (16:58:40) not tempted to go lesbo? vikki says: (16:58:54) haha sometimes vikki says: (16:59:05) but i dont want a relationship vikki says: (16:59:14) i need to rediscover myself David says: (16:59:35) well you've never really been on your own vikki says: (16:59:36) and i dunno just better at mo vikki says: (16:59:44) thats why David says: (17:00:04) is eddie still a friend? vikki says: (17:00:10) yeah vikki says: (17:00:14) why? David says: (17:00:51) just wondered if you had him to talk to vikki says: (17:01:10) i do but his not young vikki says: (17:01:15) his not on net either vikki says: (17:01:23) its why i started chatting to this man vikki says: (17:01:43) but i just dunno how it got in to him wanting to do things vikki says: (17:02:02) when i go back to work ill have him to talk to, which will be nice. And work people vikki says: (17:02:12) its just mum and sister at mo, and anyone on net vikki says: (17:02:49) i even thought about being despro and contacting chris, but thats then using him and thats no good, plus he drives me mad as his in to me but i aint in to him! vikki says: (17:03:22) be frank, do you not wanna be friends with me then? David says: (17:04:59) sorry back David says: (17:05:09) one sec David says: (17:05:44) yea I do, have from the start vikki says: (17:06:01) ah cool David says: (17:06:27) time to tell me who these people are though vikki says: (17:06:38) people? David says: (17:07:10) threesome etc vikki says: (17:07:44) thats the person who sent me a pic of their bits last night lol David says: (17:07:53) who is it vikki says: (17:08:11) I really cant David, you dont need to know anyway, do you? David says: (17:08:23) come on vikki says: (17:08:37) lol stop David says: (17:08:54) talk to davy vikki says: (17:08:55) hey listen there is so much else id like to chat to you about vikki says: (17:09:05) Davyboy? haha David says: (17:09:11) ewww vikki says: (17:09:14) lol David says: (17:09:20) go on then, talk vikki says: (17:09:30) i cant remember now what i was gonna say vikki says: (17:09:43) you talk! vikki says: (17:09:47) your so quiet!! vikki says: (17:09:58) then it will come to me David says: (17:10:39) err David says: (17:11:06) not much to say vikki says: (17:11:14) haha you never have much to say!! David says: (17:11:38) nope, nothing going on vikki says: (17:11:43) lol vikki says: (17:12:08) sorted out my council tax bill today, I dont have to pay it vikki says: (17:12:22) not council tax, I mean my bus lane fine! David says: (17:12:37) oh that's good vikki says: (17:12:37) did you walk marley for 5 miles? David says: (17:12:57) 3.4 - not too bad for a hot day, marley wouldn't go any further vikki says: (17:13:11) I miss him, his little black silky soft nose! haha David says: (17:13:13) lazy bum needs a kick up the arse vikki says: (17:13:19) arrggguup! vikki says: (17:13:20) lol David says: (17:13:27) haha yea he still does that vikki says: (17:13:44) ours ran off earlier vikki says: (17:14:07) couldnt find them anywhere, my mum put them in the back of the fiat and takes them over to where charlotte keeps her horse vikki says: (17:14:15) and they just run off and dont come back for ages David says: (17:14:22) not good vikki says: (17:14:23) sputnik stays close by though vikki says: (17:14:29) and sheebu David says: (17:14:29) haha vikki says: (17:14:42) im going to Spain on the 18th! David says: (17:14:42) need a boot up the arse vikki says: (17:14:49) lol I know! David says: (17:14:53) cool - flying? vikki says: (17:15:10) yeah flying, taking a train there, will be flying on my own on the way back! vikki says: (17:15:18) lil bit scary and taking train back home! vikki says: (17:15:22) first for me! lol vikki says: (17:15:31) I hope I dont get lost!! David says: (17:15:47) good for you, well I managed the train back from dads so you'll be fine vikki says: (17:16:04) Dad it coming back november/december time and bringing car back, and I want to do the journey with him. as they go past mont blonc etc vikki says: (17:16:16) I hope so! David says: (17:16:17) awesome vikki says: (17:16:29) You know what I am like though, I cant find anywhere on trains vikki says: (17:16:31) I rather drive vikki says: (17:16:38) I am meeting Liam in London next week vikki says: (17:16:48) I am scared about that too with the trains vikki says: (17:17:03) his never been to london either, I have no idea how to get to Stratford though, like we did David says: (17:17:41) haha good luck then! vikki says: (17:17:42) lol I guess only way ill learn though, is by doing it and getting lost. If I get it then I really want to take mum or whoever i can get to go to paris with me again, probably next year now as i loved it there David says: (17:18:01) it's pretty easy - you going to london bridge? vikki says: (17:18:16) well thats the thing, his going to Liverpool street vikki says: (17:18:34) and I am going to london victoria, I then hope to be able to navigate to where he is vikki says: (17:18:48) we arent leaving to 9 at night! So ill be getting back at about 12!! David says: (17:18:52) yea I was at liverpool street a few weeks ago vikki says: (17:19:04) as it takes ages to get back to hastings, ghr vikki says: (17:19:17) ah yeah, tell me what you have been up to? David says: (17:19:43) nothing that amazing vikki says: (17:19:50) where you been? David says: (17:20:30) up to dads, to london about 3 times, cotswolds vikki says: (17:20:46) cool, how was it at your dads? when you go? vikki says: (17:21:33) one thing i am gutted about not getting athletics tickets to see the stadium and seeing those mascots you did David says: (17:21:45) two weeks ago, it was nice - there new house is nice.. Met up with TJ, he's a good guy.. Saw Sarah vikki says: (17:21:55) sarah ok? vikki says: (17:22:05) how long you spend there? David says: (17:22:16) the mascots are all over london so you should see some next week - download the london guide app vikki says: (17:22:31) oh right David says: (17:22:37) only 4 days.. Sarah is desperate to get out clubbing vikki says: (17:22:46) haha oh deah vikki says: (17:23:26) what did you go up to london for three times? vikki says: (17:23:46) my ticket to london cost £20, more than taking it from orpington vikki says: (17:23:51) includes underground though David says: (17:23:57) mascot hunting, then E&P&P went on the london eye vikki says: (17:24:07) lol mascot hunting vikki says: (17:24:17) cool David says: (17:24:31) the tickets we got from orpington included underground - travelcard vikki says: (17:24:39) how much were they? David says: (17:24:50) £7 I think vikki says: (17:24:56) wow, see much cheaper David says: (17:25:07) it's £19 from paddock wood vikki says: (17:25:07) hows simon, still okay out there? vikki says: (17:25:17) blimey, not much than here± David says: (17:25:33) how much did you pay? vikki says: (17:25:37) £21 David says: (17:25:49) yea simon's good thanks David says: (17:26:16) it was only £24 from grantham to london, more than double the distance vikki says: (17:26:27) mad aint it David says: (17:27:07) sure is David says: (17:27:16) simon's back in 2 weeks I think vikki says: (17:27:37) gave mylo a massive detail the other week, his sooo shiny now, best his ever looked. Paln on keeping him like that. Sorted the wheel out, by painitng a bit of it. vikki says: (17:27:45) Got loads of crap out of his wheel arches. vikki says: (17:28:05) Cleaned his engine and exhaust and everthing spent 3 days on him David says: (17:28:26) I saw the photos vikki says: (17:28:30) I noticed though, on his mini badge its a bit white, not car wax but its like chipped and got under it vikki says: (17:28:36) where u see the photos? vikki says: (17:28:47) dont think i put them all on the net? David says: (17:28:53) flickr vikki says: (17:29:04) oh right, i didnt realise I had you as a contact on there? David says: (17:29:18) indeed vikki says: (17:29:28) do you reckon they will replace the badge under warranty? vikki says: (17:29:35) if I take him to sevonaks? David says: (17:29:39) nope vikki says: (17:29:45) really? why not? vikki says: (17:29:54) whats simon back for, holidays? David says: (17:29:57) because you could of done something to it vikki says: (17:30:05) i havent though? vikki says: (17:30:06) lol David says: (17:30:13) you can't prove that David says: (17:30:30) yea back for 3 weeks holiday vikki says: (17:30:39) but i dont get it, i think i might ask em anyway David says: (17:30:51) why you going up there? vikki says: (17:30:55) i was thinking about getting him a shift light vikki says: (17:31:05) sevonoaks? vikki says: (17:31:16) because I trust them more than hailsham David says: (17:31:28) excuse to see matt? lol vikki says: (17:31:33) no lol vikki says: (17:31:52) seriously they always get the job done in the end for me vikki says: (17:32:04) plus its where i bought him from David says: (17:32:11) we don't go there now vikki says: (17:32:22) ah shame for them David says: (17:32:59) it's been in time and time again.. Sunroof still rattling like crazy, weird noises, clutch problems. The manual countryman is badd vikki says: (17:33:14) ill see how they are next time i go, if they are crap i might try t wells, but no way hailsham they are **** vikki says: (17:33:32) yeah, it is very bad your mums car David says: (17:33:51) apparently it's all over nam how the manual gearbox doesn't work with the ALL4 system vikki says: (17:33:59) great! vikki says: (17:34:08) she should sell it vikki says: (17:34:22) get something more sportier and fun David says: (17:34:37) need the space vikki says: (17:34:43) new MINI comes out next year vikki says: (17:34:47) that will be more spacious David says: (17:34:54) and more ugly vikki says: (17:35:11) lol we shall see, probably, but wont know to see in flesh vikki says: (17:35:25) did you see the concept? in london? vikki says: (17:35:28) was it nice? David says: (17:35:44) I will do tomorrow.. Well just look at the BMWs - getting worse and worse vikki says: (17:36:25) yeah, but mums car broke down the other day, (battery flat) and the AA man said id never buy an audi! vikki says: (17:36:47) he said when they go wrong vikki says: (17:36:52) they cost a fortune to vikki says: (17:37:02) fix. David says: (17:37:15) doesn't bother me, they are top in reliability and under warranty vikki says: (17:37:22) yeah what I thought vikki says: (17:37:35) I dont think they are as fun as a MINI though vikki says: (17:37:42) you will be back in one soon, I bet vikki says: (17:37:51) I bet you end up getting a new MINI David says: (17:38:07) na - I find the Audi way more fun than the MINI.. Much more fun on the limit vikki says: (17:38:17) Im not just saying it but, I didnt think it was no way as fun vikki says: (17:38:49) didnt pop and bang and didnt put a big grin on my face, preferred the roadster and mine. But world would be boring if we all liked same thign would it! vikki says: (17:39:02) its certainly a lovely looking car, for sure! David says: (17:39:02) you didn't like the roadster vikki says: (17:39:15) I did David says: (17:39:25) na - even steven changed his mind vikki says: (17:39:49) yeah, 'couldnt get it due to memories of Andy' vikki says: (17:39:55) biggest load of bull ever lol vikki says: (17:40:01) he aint got the money! David says: (17:40:05) that wasn't true - we spoke days before he decided vikki says: (17:40:08) lives in dream land! David says: (17:40:15) nope that wasn't the reason vikki says: (17:40:22) what was it then? vikki says: (17:40:28) as it was besotted over it David says: (17:40:37) said he'd regret it and be bored by it, he's already ordered something else vikki says: (17:40:56) whats he gone for? Or is it to secret? David says: (17:41:28) he wanted a TTS but only a new one so went for the Toyota 86 - said they are the most fun 2 cars he's ever driven vikki says: (17:41:40) lol vikki says: (17:41:47) is that the one we saw at the motorshow? vikki says: (17:41:54) the new one out David says: (17:41:58) yup vikki says: (17:42:05) each to their own vikki says: (17:42:08) not for me vikki says: (17:42:19) i would have gone for the audi if it was between them too David says: (17:42:36) it's the new v old battle as always vikki says: (17:43:02) well it would have been the MINI then vikki says: (17:43:10) oh well least I wont be jel of it! vikki says: (17:43:25) lol as I do have a craving for a soft top again David says: (17:43:47) driving dynamics wise it's hard to beat the 86, it's just a bit slow though vikki says: (17:43:56) right vikki says: (17:44:11) just old fashion in looks i thought vikki says: (17:44:14) not to my styling David says: (17:44:24) typical toyota really vikki says: (17:44:33) yeah on whole not a fan of them David says: (17:44:49) feels like the good old days - arguing about cars vikki says: (17:45:12) haha yeah, nice to know things never change! David says: (17:45:46) not really that bothered about cars anymore but it has bought me more attention than any other car.. Never given so many people lifts vikki says: (17:46:10) make sure they dont mark your seats! Yeah but I get attention in mine too vikki says: (17:46:15) you MINI hater! David says: (17:46:37) well I never had people come and talk to me in petrol stations before vikki says: (17:46:38) especially as my exhaust pops and bangs! vikki says: (17:46:54) cool, Ive had that with my soft top David says: (17:46:56) so does mine now vikki says: (17:47:03) does it really? vikki says: (17:47:07) find that hard to believe... David says: (17:47:16) why? vikki says: (17:47:27) well what have you done to it? vikki says: (17:47:31) it never made a sound vikki says: (17:47:34) before David says: (17:48:06) the exhaust was mega loud from outside as standard, got someone to record it.. You just open a flap on the exhaust that's closed unless you have sport button vikki says: (17:48:30) hmm, ill see it to belive it ;-) David says: (17:48:45) I see your MINI ocd is still going vikki says: (17:48:52) haha you cheeky ****ker! David says: (17:49:04) Audi is a different league really vikki says: (17:49:11) old mans league! vikki says: (17:49:21) no way as fun.. simples! David says: (17:49:39) hell of a lot faster vikki says: (17:49:45) speed isnt everything vikki says: (17:49:56) plus so many cock heads drive them now vikki says: (17:50:03) all the BMW people have gone over to them vikki says: (17:50:14) I watched clarkson do a review on the Audi the other day vikki says: (17:50:18) and he said it was boring David says: (17:50:27) wasn't a TT vikki says: (17:50:35) what was it then? David says: (17:50:47) he's never driven the new tt on topgear vikki says: (17:50:58) maybe it was old one then vikki says: (17:51:10) but what he said struck a cord in me. vikki says: (17:51:20) But as long as your happy with it thats all that matters isnt it/ David says: (17:51:23) you're being so nasty, if I said that about MINI you'd never speak to me again vikki says: (17:51:41) see above? vikki says: (17:52:00) you just need to be a bit nicer about the MINI vikki says: (17:52:05) youve had one since 17 vikki says: (17:52:10) and now slag them off David says: (17:52:13) yea but you said cock heads before that, you weren't happy about steven saying that about porsche vikki says: (17:52:23) MINI gave you a car to go to the arctic, cant see Audi doing that David says: (17:52:27) I haven't slagged them off apart from countryman vikki says: (17:52:38) your saying they are in a different league vikki says: (17:52:43) MINI is a classless car David says: (17:52:58) vikki a 5 second car is a different league to a 7 second car, fact vikki says: (17:53:22) why is it always about seconds on cars though with u? David says: (17:53:40) it is with most men.. Otherwise car companies wouldn't bother listing it vikki says: (17:53:56) should be overall package David says: (17:54:10) lol in which case the audi is a completely different league vikki says: (17:54:38) ok David says: (17:55:04) better fuel ecomney too vikki says: (17:55:21) lol no way, not compared to mine David says: (17:55:32) they don't make yours anymore vikki says: (17:55:51) its a classic…. new one they do in a hatch and thats even better on mpg David says: (17:56:05) no it's not better mpg, it's crap vikki says: (17:56:05) I bet you any money you will come back to a MINI vikki says: (17:56:18) you will either get fed up with the colour or it will come out of the warrenty David says: (17:56:30) never vikki says: (17:56:31) and too many miles on it, and you will get a new shape MINI vikki says: (17:56:35) remember these words now David says: (17:56:43) vikki stop it vikki says: (17:56:45) and I can laugh when you get one and congratulate you David says: (17:57:27) won't happen, way too expensive vikki says: (17:57:45) whats too expensive? a New MINI? David says: (17:57:52) yup vikki says: (17:58:12) what? You will proabbly have a job by then vikki says: (17:58:24) or you will find the money somehow vikki says: (17:58:33) always finance David says: (17:58:45) wouldn't want one vikki says: (17:58:53) okay David says: (17:59:11) your next car will not be a mini, guarantee that vikki says: (17:59:16) really? vikki says: (17:59:20) Why you think that? David says: (17:59:39) because you'll hate the next gen and need something bigger vikki says: (17:59:58) why will i need something bigger? I aint having kids for along time vikki says: (18:00:09) i may not hate the 2nd gen David says: (18:00:21) 3rd gen vikki says: (18:00:29) yeah ok you know what i mean David says: (18:01:00) anyway I can still love a car and not own it, I do miss yours vikki says: (18:01:18) exactly so give MINI some respect vikki says: (18:01:32) or you wont ever be allowed to come to a MINI meet again vikki says: (18:01:37) ill have you black listed vikki says: (18:01:45) MINI FTW David says: (18:01:49) haha think other people might have something to say on that vikki says: (18:02:11) hmm you dont know the power of moi! vikki says: (18:02:12) lol vikki says: (18:02:24) you dont own a MINI anymore vikki says: (18:02:30) and not welcome!! lol David says: (18:02:38) seen dean's new car? vikki says: (18:02:40) in order to come to a meet you have to buy a MINI vikki says: (18:02:47) no, what is it? David says: (18:03:01) on Facebook, they got their duke - 62 plate vikki says: (18:03:07) ah cool! vikki says: (18:03:33) better than countryman David says: (18:03:49) yea kind of boring interior though vikki says: (18:04:01) yea David says: (18:04:13) who's defending MINI now? lol vikki says: (18:04:14) bet it dont rattle though vikki says: (18:04:29) yeah but countryman isnt a MINI is it really David says: (18:04:41) it's their most popular car vikki says: (18:05:16) yeah for old farts mostly vikki says: (18:05:25) fat people David says: (18:05:39) MINI go with the market, that's all vikki says: (18:06:27) brb vikki says: (18:07:45) back David says: (18:07:58) ok David says: (18:08:20) sadly they all do - look at the Porsche 4x4 vikki says: (18:08:28) yeah I know David says: (18:08:51) I bailed out of the 0-60 runs yesterday lol vikki says: (18:08:59) why? vikki says: (18:09:28) I really want to get Mylo on to a dyno David says: (18:09:37) sounds kind of stupid but I didn't want to put wear on the clutch, why I wouldn't do santa pod either vikki says: (18:09:40) thinking of taking him to AMD vikki says: (18:09:58) yeah why I didnt wanan do it either, the wear on the car David says: (18:10:18) there was no one down that end watching though but would of been pointless going slowly vikki says: (18:10:30) and embarassing David says: (18:10:47) yea - the dyno is really that stressful for a car if done right.. AMD are pros David says: (18:10:53) isn't ^ vikki says: (18:11:17) yeah might go there after my holiday David says: (18:11:57) let me know - would be interested to see that vikki says: (18:12:05) did michelle hire the VW camper or buy it do you know? vikki says: (18:12:20) yeah will do, would you wanna take yours there too? David says: (18:12:32) do they do 4wd too? vikki says: (18:12:48) I dunno, I havent even looked at their website, I would have thought so? David says: (18:13:05) yea would of thought so too.. Yea might do.. I'm not sure about camper vikki says: (18:13:05) u been watching x factor? vikki says: (18:13:28) you going on holidays rest of the year? David says: (18:13:44) I love those campers.. Yea have been watching it, pretty funny vikki says: (18:13:58) it is, yeah I love campers too David says: (18:14:29) nope no holidays, booked next year though vikki says: (18:14:30) heard anything about jo? how shes doing? vikki says: (18:14:41) oh the big family one? Where you all going? David says: (18:15:12) it got quite heated about where Elaine wanted to go so I stayed out of it, think it ended up near the verdun gorge.. You know where we went David says: (18:15:23) nope heard nothing on Jo vikki says: (18:15:35) verdun gorge, remind me wheres that again? vikki says: (18:15:48) the steep up hill to your nans fave hotel? David says: (18:16:21) no - you know where we drove around and the waters like bright blue/green, took a trip there from the house last year vikki says: (18:16:48) oh yeah I think I remember, oh lovely vikki says: (18:16:54) if you need a friend to come too vikki says: (18:17:05) remember me!! if you dont have a gf by then David says: (18:17:08) where we went for the monte carlo trip too and camped with wiz vikki says: (18:17:22) yeah i remember, lovely around there vikki says: (18:17:25) arent you lucky vikki says: (18:17:30) when you going, august? David says: (18:17:35) I will remember, although you are bad navigator vikki says: (18:17:50) dont need navigation when you have sat nag? David says: (18:18:12) haha you still need a brain to work it out, as we found out several times vikki says: (18:18:27) hmm dont remember that, must have been day dreaming David says: (18:18:35) guess who's going with us? vikki says: (18:18:42) not pat and vikki says: (18:18:47) whats his name, cant remember David says: (18:18:47) nope vikki says: (18:18:50) oh no i know!! vikki says: (18:18:56) err whats her name vikki says: (18:19:02) your grandads bit on the side David says: (18:19:10) haha no, much smaller and male vikki says: (18:19:18) marley? David says: (18:19:23) Mr Marl! vikki says: (18:19:28) haha ahr wow! vikki says: (18:19:36) will be okay going all that way? vikki says: (18:19:49) ahr that will be nice, least you wont be worrying about him whilst out there David says: (18:20:06) I dunno, I think it's crazy but mum said he'll survive vikki says: (18:20:14) haha yeah he will be okay vikki says: (18:20:20) if chumley can go all that way David says: (18:20:22) the ground are dog proof apparently David says: (18:20:27) grounds vikki says: (18:20:27) will have to get him a passport vikki says: (18:20:32) cool David says: (18:20:37) yup that's true vikki says: (18:20:44) wish i was going vikki says: (18:20:47) so jel!! vikki says: (18:21:00) Cant your family adopt me or something vikki says: (18:21:03) lol David says: (18:21:09) haha grandad probably would vikki says: (18:21:20) haha thats the main one i want anyway vikki says: (18:21:25) his the only one that has money vikki says: (18:21:26) lol David says: (18:21:30) too true vikki says: (18:21:43) i dont miss our fights vikki says: (18:21:50) and tension etc vikki says: (18:21:55) but will miss your family vikki says: (18:21:58) and holidays vikki says: (18:21:59) lol David says: (18:22:02) na me neither - think that was just us though vikki says: (18:22:08) yeah David says: (18:22:14) yea I miss your family too vikki says: (18:22:18) although your grandad i dont miss sometimes vikki says: (18:22:21) he was a bit rude vikki says: (18:22:24) without meaning to though vikki says: (18:22:26) at times David says: (18:22:39) yea, he still puts his foot in it every 5 mins vikki says: (18:22:46) lol David says: (18:22:58) grumpy old man really vikki says: (18:23:11) lol I dont blame him with you lot though sometimes David says: (18:23:18) oh god no vikki says: (18:23:25) ah yeah and I thought I wont have simons nice dinners vikki says: (18:23:28) thats another thing David says: (18:23:40) neither have I since we split, remember David says: (18:23:53) had simons dinner vikki says: (18:23:54) yeah tahts right David says: (18:24:02) he's out eating camel burgers vikki says: (18:24:05) lol David says: (18:24:11) and curry vikki says: (18:24:13) i feel alot more relaxed though, dont you? vikki says: (18:24:15) hmm curry David says: (18:24:27) he won't eat it.. Yea I do vikki says: (18:24:39) although you started winding me up earlier vikki says: (18:24:51) only you can argue over everythign with me David says: (18:24:59) same with you! vikki says: (18:25:01) I dont get it vikki says: (18:25:05) its you! vikki says: (18:25:08) seriously it is vikki says: (18:25:14) you used to argue with jodie too vikki says: (18:25:19) you think you know best vikki says: (18:25:22) david knows best vikki says: (18:25:23) lol David says: (18:25:29) no it's not lol - if someone says MINI isn't the best and it's crap then you go ape vikki says: (18:25:46) no I dont vikki says: (18:25:53) argh I really hate you sometimes vikki says: (18:25:56) lol David says: (18:26:13) goof David says: (18:26:15) good vikki says: (18:26:30) stupid tint wank! David says: (18:26:40) did you know nan's giving up MS? vikki says: (18:26:48) yes you told me vikki says: (18:26:52) thought she already had David says: (18:27:13) yea but she's in the 'handover' stage atm.. Next few weeks and it's over vikki says: (18:27:20) ahr shame David says: (18:27:33) god knows what she'll do then vikki says: (18:27:37) you lie too much too vikki says: (18:27:41) yeah David says: (18:27:48) when did I lie? vikki says: (18:27:53) hmm so many times! vikki says: (18:27:58) wont go in to it vikki says: (18:28:15) but I dont belive you that you have done it with someone already David says: (18:28:18) I haven't lied once in this conversation or yesterday vikki says: (18:28:18) yeah right? vikki says: (18:28:40) so you can swear oh ph life you have had sex with someone already? David says: (18:28:47) I do vikki says: (18:28:53) say it then vikki says: (18:29:00) that you swear on ph's life David says: (18:29:11) I swear on PH's life I have had six with someone since you David says: (18:29:16) *sex vikki says: (18:29:25) i dont belive u vikki says: (18:29:43) how did you manage that? vikki says: (18:29:48) you got to tell me like Eddie told me vikki says: (18:30:11) I wanna know!!! lol David says: (18:30:29) they actually talked me into it, I didn't want to the first time vikki says: (18:30:38) wow vikki says: (18:30:43) is it someone on your fb? David says: (18:30:51) nook wouldn't risk that David says: (18:30:54) *noo vikki says: (18:31:11) was it in real life then, so not a conversation online? David says: (18:31:27) it started online vikki says: (18:31:35) with someone on like a dating site? David says: (18:31:47) no from one of the forums vikki says: (18:31:53) audi forums? David says: (18:31:58) indeed vikki says: (18:32:01) blimey vikki says: (18:32:14) so what you arranged to meet up with them? David says: (18:32:26) she arranged, yea vikki says: (18:32:37) how many days or weeks ago was this? David says: (18:32:48) 2 weeks vikki says: (18:32:58) how did you feel afterwards? vikki says: (18:33:06) does your mum know? David says: (18:33:23) no and if you ever let this out then I'll kill you vikki says: (18:33:38) lol I doubt ill see you mum again David says: (18:33:52) to anyone vikki says: (18:33:56) no i wont vikki says: (18:34:05) how did u feel afterwards? David says: (18:34:20) nonplus vikki says: (18:34:25) whats that mean? David says: (18:34:42) not really bothered either way vikki says: (18:34:52) wow, never knew you were like that vikki says: (18:35:06) how old roughly was she? David says: (18:35:13) 23 vikki says: (18:35:22) pretty? David says: (18:35:29) yea, black hair vikki says: (18:35:38) your ideal lol vikki says: (18:35:46) why dont you wanna meet her again? David says: (18:36:00) just wanna be on my own at the moment vikki says: (18:36:07) she wanna be with u? David says: (18:36:16) yea vikki says: (18:36:18) was you drunk or anything, you have more confidence than me David says: (18:36:30) no I wasn't, you know me vikki says: (18:36:45) lol I never had you down for doing this David says: (18:36:51) me neither vikki says: (18:36:57) not who I thought you were vikki says: (18:37:10) is she local? David says: (18:37:14) no vikki says: (18:37:21) so you go up to her? vikki says: (18:37:30) so guess you were chatting for awhile then? David says: (18:37:42) not long before we met vikki says: (18:37:58) and only 3 weeks after we slit vikki says: (18:38:01) split David says: (18:38:25) yea - I think I did it for her benefit really as I was in shock that I did vikki says: (18:38:43) was she better than me? be honest vikki says: (18:39:20) seems like you a pro now. glad you didnt do it whilst with me vikki says: (18:39:28) you didnt did you? Ever cheat on me? David says: (18:40:42) no, no way vikki says: (18:40:52) whats the nos to? David says: (18:41:08) chet David says: (18:41:11) cheat vikki says: (18:41:20) so she was better than me then? vikki says: (18:41:24) she enjoy it with you? David says: (18:41:36) nope, seemed to enjoy it more though lol vikki says: (18:41:43) lol what a slapper vikki says: (18:41:49) sorry David says: (18:42:08) lol vikki says: (18:42:20) cant deny its hurt me, yeah I know your a single guy vikki says: (18:42:31) just the fact I didnt think you werre like that vikki says: (18:42:42) and so soon after too David says: (18:43:04) well you said you were thursday vikki says: (18:43:22) no I said earlier I couldnt David says: (18:43:38) u were though vikki says: (18:44:05) no i wouldnt have done vikki says: (18:44:20) least its shattered the idea of the person I thought you were vikki says: (18:44:27) for all the time I knew you vikki says: (18:44:40) not that, really matters any more vikki says: (18:44:46) but yeah David says: (18:44:58) people change vikki says: (18:45:07) I guess I can say thank you for telling me really vikki says: (18:45:11) yeah David says: (18:45:37) well don't let me regret telling you vikki says: (18:45:46) no i wont David says: (18:45:59) I would do myself in vikki says: (18:46:00) just shocked David says: (18:46:28) like you were with eddie vikki says: (18:46:29) im glad i contacted u now as i wasnt vikki says: (18:46:54) eddie left it along time after, but was shocked too vikki says: (18:47:04) but more with you as you did it so soon David says: (18:47:19) as I wasn't? vikki says: (18:47:40) wasnt going to contact you but glad i did to be friend and find this out vikki says: (18:48:10) your certainly not the person I met two years ago vikki says: (18:48:13) such a shame, sorry David says: (18:48:22) I know vikki says: (18:48:23) sweet innocent, gentleman vikki says: (18:48:32) my god vikki says: (18:48:37) my whole judgement vikki says: (18:48:47) wrong in what i thought people were right vikki says: (18:48:50) like David says: (18:49:00) I think I was back then to be fair vikki says: (18:49:12) its such a shame you have changed vikki says: (18:49:15) for your own self vikki says: (18:49:36) did you do it to her when in cotwolds? vikki says: (18:49:45) part of me still doesnt belive you David says: (18:49:51) yea vikki says: (18:50:02) I think maybe your doing it to be nasty or something David says: (18:50:04) well I'm a lot more confident overall vikki says: (18:50:14) yeah, I controbuted to that vikki says: (18:50:21) I think David says: (18:50:24) you did, a lot vikki says: (18:50:34) but you took mine all away David says: (18:50:54) I know, crap times vikki says: (18:50:58) never mind, in time ill get it back David says: (18:51:13) I'm sure you will vikki says: (18:51:19) why are you so funny about me contacting matt then? vikki says: (18:51:33) you can hardly say anything with what youve done vikki says: (18:51:40) only person id feel bad for is jo vikki says: (18:51:45) but i dont like her much any way David says: (18:52:09) they were a stranger - you've know how bad matt has been at times.. Remember you screaming f*cking c**** down the phone about him vikki says: (18:52:24) i didnt say that to him? David says: (18:52:28) to tina vikki says: (18:52:35) did i? vikki says: (18:52:38) dont reember David says: (18:52:41) yup, 6 times vikki says: (18:52:46) ive said same thing about u though David says: (18:52:56) when he posted about you on twitter or something vikki says: (18:53:06) oh that was Eddie I spoke to vikki says: (18:53:08) not Tina David says: (18:53:20) err on the phone with me next to you? doubt it vikki says: (18:53:28) yeah it was vikki says: (18:53:30) sorry David says: (18:53:34) nice vikki says: (18:53:42) if its the time I remember David says: (18:53:57) we've had so many spats with matt who knows David says: (18:54:20) at united he was the biggest c*** in the world David says: (18:54:27) you said vikki says: (18:54:35) yeah but i dont see why you should care David? vikki says: (18:54:46) and I aint doing it to hurt you or anything David says: (18:54:49) because you hate the guy? vikki says: (18:54:57) but why should i ask him he i do think i like him? vikki says: (18:55:02) I dont hate him David says: (18:55:10) you always did David says: (18:55:27) you like him because of a fake dream vikki says: (18:55:41) same fake dream that got me with you David says: (18:55:57) you never hated me before hand, in that way vikki says: (18:56:03) it cant be any worse than the downs i had with you over the two years vikki says: (18:56:09) I did hate you in that way David says: (18:56:27) nope - we had been on holiday together and hated each other etc etc vikki says: (18:56:34) he probably doesnt even like me anyway David says: (18:56:47) the downs? Ha - you caused a hell of a lot of them vikki says: (18:56:56) but if he did I would give it ago David says: (18:57:31) doubt he'd take you all over europe vikki says: (18:57:47) probably not, but more chance with him than other guys vikki says: (18:58:03) there was only one David, and his gone now vikki says: (18:58:09) so I couldnt expect the same with other men vikki says: (18:58:21) it would be different but that is a positive David says: (18:58:23) there's a reason he's been single most of his life vikki says: (18:58:34) because he just hasnt met the right girl yet! vikki says: (18:58:43) you were single most of your life too David says: (18:58:44) matt doesn't care about the right girl David says: (18:58:51) I didn't go clubbing all the time vikki says: (18:58:54) what do you really know about him? David says: (18:59:07) I didn't see people all the time and have a million friends David says: (18:59:16) I know his whole life story vikki says: (18:59:25) really? how? David says: (18:59:37) mcob trip - they were going on all night vikki says: (18:59:48) what should I be afraid of then? David says: (19:00:09) nothing but I know he's had more than enough people in his life vikki says: (19:00:15) girls? vikki says: (19:00:24) thought you thought he was a virgin David says: (19:00:32) I mean to have a girlfriend vikki says: (19:00:48) yeah but maybe I think maybe his always liked me vikki says: (19:00:54) and no one else compared vikki says: (19:01:02) mabe the whole picasso thing was like school boy David says: (19:01:04) before you knew him? vikki says: (19:01:09) thing where you pick on a girl u like vikki says: (19:01:25) before i knew him we were only like 20? David says: (19:01:32) vikki you didn't know him till he was like 22-23 vikki says: (19:01:39) okay 22 then vikki says: (19:01:49) just tell me what you think he would do then at worse vikki says: (19:01:55) and why we wouldnt get along vikki says: (19:02:02) im listening and would think on nit David says: (19:02:09) one night stand then goodbye vikki says: (19:02:23) u think he would go that far with me? David says: (19:02:43) if most men are offered a free meal they won't turn it down vikki says: (19:03:02) answer me this honestly David says: (19:03:15) shame to degrade yourself though vikki says: (19:03:15) what percentage do you think he likes me? vikki says: (19:03:26) I wouldnt have a one night stand David says: (19:03:32) 0.1% vikki says: (19:03:38) and by going out with matt thats not degrading myself vikki says: (19:03:45) yso you think he doesnt like me? vikki says: (19:03:47) why not? vikki says: (19:03:51) I am prettier than jo David says: (19:04:00) I think he hates you tbh vikki says: (19:04:06) I am sure I have seen in his eyes that he likes me when I have gone to the dealership vikki says: (19:04:13) at the moment yeah David says: (19:04:16) vikki - he's paid to like people vikki says: (19:04:17) cos of mini united vikki says: (19:04:30) David I am not just saying this but I saw it in his eyes David says: (19:04:41) haha they learn that too, the eye trick vikki says: (19:04:45) he didnt like the fact you came over once to the table when I was talking to me vikki says: (19:04:46) him David says: (19:04:58) this is such crap vikki says: (19:05:06) Its only how I feel vikki says: (19:05:16) and what I thought David says: (19:05:17) because of a stupid dream vikki says: (19:05:39) I want to be single david but the idea of finding someone what I imagine matt to be like vikki says: (19:05:43) is never too early vikki says: (19:05:47) I could find myself with matt vikki says: (19:05:51) I love to be loved vikki says: (19:05:55) he could make me laugh David says: (19:06:00) matt doesn't love anyone but himself vikki says: (19:06:06) he likes the same things as me and seems a big kind bear David says: (19:06:18) haha what a load of crap David says: (19:06:31) he treated jo like **** vikki says: (19:06:50) be it right or wrong all I know is that I have found it hard to stop thinking about him ever since dream vikki says: (19:07:03) hows he treat her like ****? David says: (19:07:07) that's a typical teenage dream David says: (19:07:13) get over it vikki says: (19:07:22) by not talking to her after their brake up? David says: (19:07:34) no, through everything vikki says: (19:07:39) how u know? vikki says: (19:08:03) and if jo has told you then, how did he treat her like ****? Your telling me all this but without giving any explanation David says: (19:08:21) it wasn't through jo - I can't say anymore vikki says: (19:08:36) well then I got nothing to go by have i vikki says: (19:08:49) he may be different with me David says: (19:08:52) matt caused so much trouble during our relationship - god knows what you're thinking vikki says: (19:09:14) this really shouldnt matter any more to you David vikki says: (19:09:18) that kind of feeling David says: (19:09:37) I'd never go out with Jo out of respect for you because that would mean I had those feelings when we were together vikki says: (19:09:37) now I dont think Matt would like me anyway vikki says: (19:09:52) I told you I liked Matt when together David says: (19:09:52) it's an insult David says: (19:10:03) not to that extent vikki says: (19:10:06) but then went off him, but now thinking I like him again David says: (19:10:18) he'd love it - one up against david vikki says: (19:10:29) he wouldnt do it for that David says: (19:10:32) he'd do it for that alone vikki says: (19:10:41) if he doesnt like me then he will say I am sure vikki says: (19:10:50) thats what I fear, the rejection as id have to see him again vikki says: (19:11:03) and its embarassing vikki says: (19:11:12) also I wouldnt want jo to know as she would be hurt vikki says: (19:11:16) like I planned it or something David says: (19:11:24) she'd probably kill you David says: (19:11:34) I'd never go near him again vikki says: (19:11:37) I really like him David vikki says: (19:11:49) im not joking and I cant get him out my head ;-( David says: (19:11:50) and you'd end up killing yourself because he won't return any calls vikki says: (19:12:05) id appreciate his a busy person with his work David says: (19:12:13) you've got a false illusion vikki says: (19:12:59) his the only man i am interested in vikki says: (19:13:06) I wish I wasnt for those reasons vikki says: (19:13:19) and worry of how it went with jo vikki says: (19:13:27) but its worth a chance surely? David says: (19:13:30) I think if this is the road you are taking then we can't be friends vikki says: (19:13:35) who knows we could be so right for each other vikki says: (19:13:46) why cant we be friends? vikki says: (19:13:52) your asking me to choose then David says: (19:14:17) Margaret and hayley would be broadcasting every detail to Elaine and, although we are over, that would hurt me like hell vikki says: (19:14:18) I havent got the guts to ask him anyway vikki says: (19:14:35) Dave why should it hurt you like hell though? vikki says: (19:14:39) we are over vikki says: (19:14:43) you told me that vikki says: (19:14:49) we are never getting back together David says: (19:14:52) it's never that simple, you know that vikki says: (19:15:01) you have had sex with someone else vikki says: (19:15:08) so you rather see me unhappy vikki says: (19:15:16) than happy with someone ? David says: (19:15:20) yea and it was a big mistake vikki says: (19:15:24) thanks David, thats so nice David says: (19:15:37) here we go, typical vikki vikki says: (19:15:47) just seems unfair David says: (19:16:03) I didn't say you couldn't - I said I don't want to know and I would vikki says: (19:16:17) just tell elaine not to tell u vikki says: (19:16:26) it would be that simple David says: (19:16:27) I'm not doing that vikki says: (19:16:37) why not if u didnt wanna hear? David says: (19:16:48) you think this wouldn't be awkward for Elaine too? vikki says: (19:17:02) why would it be akward for slain? vikki says: (19:17:05) elaine David says: (19:17:15) because it's an insult to me David says: (19:17:21) and my family vikki says: (19:17:24) david your saying it wouldnt even go that far vikki says: (19:17:34) whys it an insult to u? vikki says: (19:17:38) i dont get that? David says: (19:18:01) because everyone knew you hated him and then you go out with the person who (was) close to the family while we were going out.. It's wrong vikki says: (19:18:29) i cant argue with you any more about this vikki says: (19:18:39) least i know what you would do if i did pursue it vikki says: (19:18:51) if i do i will stop being friends with u vikki says: (19:19:05) but right now i dont have the courage to ask him anyway David says: (19:19:11) yea and be messed up to **** vikki says: (19:19:16) as i am scared of rejection vikki says: (19:19:35) who messed up to ****? David says: (19:19:48) imagine what it would do to my OCD, I'd be destroyed vikki says: (19:19:56) how does it make me feel vikki says: (19:20:07) 3 weeks after splitting up vikki says: (19:20:13) you are shagging someone else vikki says: (19:20:16) jeez David says: (19:20:22) I didn't shag her and you didn't know her vikki says: (19:20:24) not long burried and you ****ing around vikki says: (19:20:42) put yourself in my shoes please David says: (19:20:59) vikki you don't know the truth and never will vikki says: (19:21:05) know what truth? David says: (19:21:18) about how and what happened, so leave it vikki says: (19:21:31) so your denying you had sex with her now? David says: (19:21:40) I'm not saying anything vikki says: (19:22:01) well you told me you did. And I am glad you did. I wont be telling your mum vikki says: (19:22:17) but you cant act all like this and then want me to be a certain way vikki says: (19:22:22) thats just not fair David says: (19:22:23) she wouldn't believe you anyway vikki says: (19:22:40) er msn on here? David says: (19:22:45) it's a bit different when it's someone close that's been there during our relationship David says: (19:23:29) this convo means nothing David says: (19:24:08) proof of a fake Facebook account though, you can't deny that vikki says: (19:25:39) hurt David says: (19:25:58) you're hurt? Jesus vikki says: (19:26:51) yeah just makes me feel I was nothing to you vikki says: (19:26:59) to do that three weeks after we split David says: (19:27:03) well clearly I wasn't either vikki says: (19:27:04) after engagement vikki says: (19:27:24) your not the person I thought, you died. David says: (19:27:41) haha.. ok vikki says: (19:28:06) why are you being so nasty now? vikki says: (19:28:18) DO you really hate me that much David says: (19:28:20) because you have been for most of the convo David says: (19:28:43) even starting by going on about how audi drivers are cock heads, **** off vikki says: (19:28:57) thats nothing to what you did vikki says: (19:29:03) actions vikki says: (19:29:05) spea vikki says: (19:29:08) speak louder vikki says: (19:29:12) than words David says: (19:29:25) vikki - I did nothing.. You started by talking about ****ing someone on Thursday, I hadn't mentioned anything then vikki says: (19:29:30) but then you have the thing to say about matt David says: (19:29:44) because he was in our relationship - god vikki says: (19:29:51) i said that as i felt you cant trust any men vikki says: (19:30:08) and i thought my friend david restored that in me thiking ah yeah not all like that vikki says: (19:30:16) as david isnt one to want to shag around vikki says: (19:30:20) how wrong was i vikki says: (19:30:30) my once then sweet david vikki says: (19:30:35) what a shame David says: (19:30:36) you made me that way vikki says: (19:30:47) omg how can i have made u that way? vikki says: (19:30:50) thats crazy to say David says: (19:30:53) you said it yourself lol vikki says: (19:31:02) i gave you confidence i said vikki says: (19:31:07) not to shag someone David says: (19:31:07) and changed me David says: (19:31:27) fine I didn't shag anyone vikki says: (19:32:15) what? vikki says: (19:32:25) why are you doing this? David says: (19:32:40) my friend would know the truth - at this moment you're not vikki says: (19:32:52) what? David says: (19:33:05) my friend vikki says: (19:33:12) whos that? David says: (19:33:23) not you at this moment vikki says: (19:33:46) this is just, I mean I dunno what to think now vikki says: (19:34:03) this is crazy David says: (19:34:08) don't really care - you were horrid with me whatever vikki says: (19:34:14) yeah but vikki says: (19:34:21) I am just confused vikki says: (19:34:35) so you didnt sleep with anyone? David says: (19:34:43) All MINI drivers all cock heads, your car is boring and you should of bought something else.. Bet that made you feel good vikki says: (19:34:44) I dunno what to belive now vikki says: (19:35:11) I was about to tell my mum you slept with someone else David says: (19:35:21) when? vikki says: (19:35:32) it felt like almost you cheated on me, even though we are single but vikki says: (19:35:37) well it happened so soon David says: (19:36:03) when? vikki says: (19:36:19) when i had chance David says: (19:36:39) what? vikki says: (19:36:45) you didnt tell me not to vikki says: (19:36:47) only your mum David says: (19:37:29) I'm telling you as a friend, I don't expect it to be told anywhere.. As I kept your confidence about breaking the law on facebook vikki says: (19:38:03) you said i wasnt a friend any more David says: (19:38:15) when I told you, you were a friend vikki says: (19:38:26) so one moment I am… the next I am not David says: (19:38:45) treat me crap then no vikki says: (19:38:55) how have i done that? David says: (19:39:03) going on about matt vikki says: (19:39:26) i said if i decide to message him ill let you know and break the friendship deal vikki says: (19:39:34) as it stands now i have no intention at the moment David says: (19:39:36) that's just as bad! vikki says: (19:39:37) as I dont have the courage vikki says: (19:39:49) you have told me you have slept with another girl david vikki says: (19:39:53) its the same thing David says: (19:40:02) you told me you were having an affair vikki says: (19:40:04) actually its worse! as i havent slept with matt yet David says: (19:40:08) with a married man! David says: (19:40:19) matt (was) a friend, some stranger is not vikki says: (19:40:27) what does an affair count as? Chatting to a man, his the one sent me the pics vikki says: (19:40:31) i havent sent him anything David says: (19:40:41) you know if you've taken it too far vikki says: (19:40:44) did you have sex with another woman or not? vikki says: (19:40:50) you swore on ph life? David says: (19:41:01) as you have several times before vikki says: (19:41:06) never have i lied David says: (19:41:07) and turned out not to be true David says: (19:41:15) you did vikki says: (19:41:25) the idea when you swear on someones life is that you dont lie vikki says: (19:41:30) you lied vikki says: (19:41:34) or have you not? vikki says: (19:41:42) did you sleep with this girl 3 weeks? David says: (19:41:47) I really can't be bothered to go into details right now vikki says: (19:41:57) so ill presume you have then David says: (19:42:44) well you'd be wrong, I don't call her Ph anymore vikki says: (19:43:34) why? vikki says: (19:43:48) why do this? David says: (19:43:50) beside the point, it doesn't make it a lie vikki says: (19:44:06) what? David says: (19:44:39) did I meet another girl - yes, did I sleep with her - yes.. Did I have sex with her, no vikki says: (19:44:57) so you slept in the same bed? David says: (19:45:11) twin lol vikki says: (19:45:35) did she offer sex to u? David says: (19:45:54) she wanted it badly.. I said I couldn't do it vikki says: (19:46:12) did you go out for a meal or anything? David says: (19:46:18) yes vikki says: (19:46:25) she off audi forum? David says: (19:46:28) yes vikki says: (19:46:45) what did you say you were doing to your mum? David says: (19:46:58) she knew I was meeting her vikki says: (19:47:04) oh my god vikki says: (19:47:16) that makes it worse for me vikki says: (19:47:33) okay right, yes understand your single so wount see it from my view David says: (19:47:34) we were meeting as friends nothing else David says: (19:47:51) mum wasn't happy even about that vikki says: (19:47:51) but shared same hotel room? vikki says: (19:48:03) what did you do day before and after? David says: (19:48:53) met in afternoon - went to stratford, went to dinner.. Watched x-factor, I said I couldn't do anything - got upset.. In the morning she went home vikki says: (19:49:08) why did u get upset? David says: (19:49:19) because I thought I could but I couldn't vikki says: (19:49:33) you really are vikki says: (19:49:39) I never had you down as like this David says: (19:50:02) I said I had because you were going on about sex etc and wanted you to think I'd moved on vikki says: (19:50:11) you wouldnt even have taken me to a hotel for the night near stratford vikki says: (19:50:22) you have moved one vikki says: (19:50:27) because you did that vikki says: (19:50:30) and thats fine vikki says: (19:50:37) it just makes me question everything David says: (19:50:39) I haven't - because I couldn't do anything because it hurt me vikki says: (19:50:42) all my judgements vikki says: (19:50:51) thats why its a shock vikki says: (19:51:07) everything i thought was right my choices are wrong vikki says: (19:51:31) the trust I had in people, has been shattered vikki says: (19:51:35) questioned David says: (19:51:50) I never cheated on you and still haven't, even though we aren't together vikki says: (19:52:02) its the fact of the illusion I had vikki says: (19:52:06) the person I thought you were vikki says: (19:52:11) I know you havent vikki says: (19:52:25) and in most peoples eyes what you have done is nothign out of the odinary vikki says: (19:52:37) but to me you have to see how this makes me question and feel David says: (19:52:43) I haven't done anything, I didn't even kiss her vikki says: (19:52:54) the intent was there vikki says: (19:52:59) the David I knew vikki says: (19:53:04) would never have done that vikki says: (19:53:12) but his dead, along with the love we had David says: (19:53:15) I was lonely that's all David says: (19:53:30) if it was dead then I could of done anything vikki says: (19:53:31) I am lonely too, but couldnt do that David says: (19:54:00) do what? I did nothing - we weren't staying in the same hotel but it got late so she stayed vikki says: (19:54:24) did you chat in bed to late? vikki says: (19:54:39) where did you go to dinner? vikki says: (19:54:44) did you pay for her? David says: (19:55:02) pay for her lol no, people can be interested in me! David says: (19:55:41) we chatted mainly about how it was ok for me to be upset vikki says: (19:55:44) im not talking about that vikki says: (19:56:01) did she know about that you had just broken up with someone? David says: (19:56:18) yea] vikki says: (19:56:44) i dont know what to say David says: (19:57:13) well I was proud of myself, for a while David says: (19:57:22) that I didn't vikki says: (19:57:22) im just glad you told me vikki says: (19:57:36) that you didnt what? David says: (19:57:40) sex vikki says: (19:57:46) right vikki says: (19:57:59) what dates did this happen? David says: (19:58:11) why? vikki says: (19:58:16) just wanna know David says: (19:58:29) not going into it vikki says: (19:58:34) why not? David says: (19:58:43) there must be a reason you ask vikki says: (19:58:44) what does it matter to u vikki says: (19:58:48) no there isnt vikki says: (19:58:53) i just wanted to remember vikki says: (19:58:55) what i was doing David says: (19:58:55) then no reason to know vikki says: (19:59:16) i just wanted to know with what i was doing David says: (19:59:17) what does it matter? All that happened is I got upset about you vikki says: (19:59:27) probably crying over you at the tme vikki says: (19:59:30) and it teaches me David says: (19:59:41) teaches you what? I was doing the same thing vikki says: (19:59:45) id like to know the dates if you could be kind enough to David says: (19:59:54) no vikki says: (19:59:59) yeah with another girl David says: (20:00:13) who I didn't want to be with vikki says: (20:02:30) well if I ever needed closure, those doors have certainly slammed shut in me now David says: (20:02:47) you are making such a big deal about something that didn't happen David says: (20:03:18) should be pleased I had some hot girl all over me and I got upset about you instead vikki says: (20:03:48) you went with intent vikki says: (20:03:57) you slept in the same room David says: (20:04:04) I didn't actually, otherwise I would of booked a double vikki says: (20:04:04) 3 weeks after we split up vikki says: (20:04:38) how could you my heart asks, how could you just flitter from one to another David says: (20:04:46) I didn't!! vikki says: (20:04:48) we were over vikki says: (20:04:57) but my head just keeps thinking vikki says: (20:05:03) that person, thoe morals vikki says: (20:05:09) the judgement I made vikki says: (20:05:11) all wrong David says: (20:05:17) the morals are intact, you were 100% right vikki says: (20:05:50) its not how i see it, but it doesnt matter vikki says: (20:05:55) why are you explaining David says: (20:06:16) because I care, obviously.. Otherwise I'd be out now shagging everything David says: (20:09:55) I should go vikki says: (20:10:39) ive told my mum vikki says: (20:10:49) and she is livid David says: (20:10:55) cheers for that vikki says: (20:11:09) she asked why i was upset David says: (20:11:25) I guess I'll tell mine about your fake Facebook account then vikki says: (20:11:38) thats fine, nothing as bad as you shaggng around David says: (20:11:51) ffs I didn't - now who's lying vikki says: (20:12:05) i dont belive you neither does my mum vikki says: (20:12:12) the closure I needed David says: (20:12:22) you're unbelievable David says: (20:12:44) just so you know - you'd get 3 years for using someones photo and fake Facebook account, it's fraud vikki says: (20:13:07) just so you know ill be telling everyone you shagged others if you did that David says: (20:13:21) I've got proof - you haven't vikki says: (20:13:34) Ive spoken to someone about that vikki says: (20:13:41) and no way you could have got my ip address vikki says: (20:13:50) facebook doesnt give them out so stop lying David says: (20:13:52) haha - yea you wish, spoken to Phil have we vikki says: (20:13:54) you ****ed around vikki says: (20:14:10) you dirty little boy David says: (20:14:12) I swear on Phoebe's life I have not ****ed anyone, night x David says: (20:14:24) you're sick vikki says: (20:14:28) u r vikki says: (20:14:39) just like your farher Link to post Share on other sites
Gab09 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Wow.. I couldn't read all of it Vikki, obviously.. but I scrolled to the part where the plain quickly caught on flames and started spiraling out of control. How do you feel, do you feel ok? You should of never started talking to him, it was inevitable that all that suppressed anger and emotions of over a month where going to pop out somehow. Link to post Share on other sites
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