Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Exactly this I think it's far easier for women to be beautiful and thin than it is for a man to be extremely handsome, charismatic and have a ton of money That's right, keep on telling women to get nose jobs and boobs jobs to make you happy and how easy everything is for them. And whine about how hard it is for men. Keep telling women to conform to a construct of beauty you let yourself buy into and now want women to buy into to feed your fantasies...yeah, that's totally healthy. Male standards for attractiveness are far higher than the other way around. Male bashers like disenchantedly yours are blind to this of course Keep telling yourself that next time you see the latest issue of Playboy, Maxim, yet another movie with James Bond and a new young hot babe on his arm, another female "artists" bouncing around the stage in school girl skirt, pretty much the majority of advertising that uses women and their bodies to sell products, the level of standards and produres wome nare expected to conform to......but yeah, keep telling yourself it's hader for you. As for telling me I am a Male Basher, show me where I bashed men. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Oh that's right, million dollar mansions just sustain themselves. There is no work required to maintain one. Of course, anyone that owns a home knows how much work goes into their little home. Add about 5,000 more square feet, 5,000 more problems, and acres of property and even if you have to manage the people that do take care of it, it's still work. It doesn't take care of it self. It's not really that much more work. Not to mention if you can afford a million dollar house, you can afford to pay people to take care of that stuff anyways My friend recently moved from a 500,000 home to a 1.5+ million dollar mansion and not much has really changed While I would agree this is true for you Still, I think there are men out there that have evolved past this way of thinking. I am sure you will date plenty of women you will settle for in your life. This is how you are happy to live your life. But I know there are people out there that respect and honor their partners more then they do their fantasies. To me, it sounds like you respect and honor your fantasies more then you do another human being. Unfortunetly, I would agree that there are a lot of men out that that think like you. They don't give themselves the chance to evolve past this ego-centric status of beauty or wealth that the world tells them they must have to be happy. What a load of bullsh*t. First of all, people are REALISTIC. It's not settling, it's called dating somebody who is your equal and most people are perfectly happy to do that Yes most men would date a 10/10 model if they could, just like most women would date a 10/10 millionaire actor if they could too. Don't sit there and lie through your teeth and pretend that this is a male issue because you know that's nonsense How am I bashing men??? Because I said no woman wants to be your pity prize? Because you turn this into a gender issue and it's not a gender issue. It's a universal issue All the same brainwashing you talk about in terms of women being objectified and having to live up to some crazy standards, well guess what? Men nowadays have to live up to a similar appearance standard and they're still expected to be the providers and have high social status/income in many cases. Who is the one that has to live up to a more difficult expectation? Why do you never address the issue in terms of the male perspective? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 If you want the reality, then yes all men would love to date a 10/10 model For a lot of men and women, the person you are madly in love with is a "10". Love makes them a "10" in your perception. Haven't you been head over heels for a normal girl? I was head over heels for a normal boy before the age of 15, and I didn't outgrow that ability to fall in love with normal people (thank goodness!). OP--to clarify, you are arguing that it is NOT the case that men only want models, correct? If so, I definitely agree. Some men only want that, but I wonder what is wrong with them. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Keep telling yourself that next time you see the latest issue of Playboy, Maxim, yet another movie with James Bond and a new young hot babe on his arm, another female "artists" bouncing around the stage in school girl skirt, pretty much the majority of advertising that uses women and their bodies to sell products, the level of standards and produres wome nare expected to conform to......but yeah, keep telling yourself it's hader for you. As for telling me I am a Male Basher, show me where I bashed men. Yea because the male standard there of James Bond who is 6'4, jacked, handsome and is a secret agent with million dollar cars is much more realistic and easy to attain for men. Every other guy on the street looks like Pierce Brosnan and drives million dollar cars Your hypocrisy is repulsive Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yes most men would date a 10/10 model if they could, just like most women would date a 10/10 millionaire actor if they could too. Don't sit there and lie through your teeth and pretend that this is a male issue because you know that's nonsense That wouldn't be the case, if they turned out to be awful people. Also, we might not be compatible! Money and being the most beautiful don't make up for that in my eyes; being financially secure would be wonderful, but not if it came with sleeping next to someone that I don't love. Are you the same guy who messaged me from another account, about a month ago, to tell me that not all men think like certain guys here? I don't know who is who anymore - if it's you, or if there's an influx of twenty-three-year-old guys from bodybuilding.com. It's one thing to say that men can be very happy with a woman who does fit some sort of stereotypical ideal; it's another to point out that he might be settling. It's all in the wording. Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 That wouldn't be the case, if they turned out to be awful people. Also, we might not be compatible! Money and being the most beautiful don't make up for that in my eyes; being financially secure would be wonderful, but not if it came with sleeping next to someone that I don't love. So let's recap this - men often times have to be good looking, charismatic/able to generate chemistry and still be well off financially Yea this is 10 times easier than a woman having to be attractive and thin :rolleyes: (I'm not sure what you're talking about the rest of your post) Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 For a lot of men and women, the person you are madly in love with is a "10". Love makes them a "10" in your perception. Haven't you been head over heels for a normal girl? I was head over heels for a normal boy before the age of 15, and I didn't outgrow that ability to fall in love with normal people (thank goodness!). OP--to clarify, you are arguing that it is NOT the case that men only want models, correct? If so, I definitely agree. Some men only want that, but I wonder what is wrong with them. That's kind of what I'm talking about People go into dating with these crazy standards and they're happy to date a regular person who they fall in love with Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 It's one thing to say that men can be very happy with a woman who *does fit some sort of stereotypical ideal; it's another to point out that he might be settling. It's all in the wording. *doesn't fit. Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So let's recap this - men often times have to be good looking, charismatic/able to generate chemistry and still be well off financially Yea this is 10 times easier than a woman having to be attractive and thin :rolleyes: (I'm not sure what you're talking about the rest of your post) No! That's what you seem to be saying we want. I'm pointing out that it isn't true. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you aren't the guy I was wondering about. Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 No! That's what you seem to be saying we want. I'm pointing out that it isn't true. Well most men (and women) are perfectly happy to be with somebody who is about their equal In a fantasy perfect world, most men and women would want to date somebody who is a perfect mate in terms of beauty/wealth/personality/character. It's all about equal because we live in real world, not the perfect fantasy world Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 My heart bleeds for you. Is it your striking good looks, the size of your bank account, or just something special about you, that no other man can hold a candle to? The thing that makes you, you. If it's your looks, then you could try not taking care of your skin, grow a scary beard, gain 100lbs - something along those lines. If it's your finances, then you could give everything away to the homeless. But if you're just that special, then I have no ideas for you. I'm afraid that you'll just have to live with it. I believe it is a combination of my striking good looks and general aura of awesomeness. I have tried gaining some weight in the past few months, but sadly this has not deterred their heated advances:( Unfortunately I'm afraid there just isn't much I can due to disuade them at this point. I will just have to live with it as you said. Thank you so much though for your kind words and thoughtful tips. lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 StillReigning It's not really that much more work. Not to mention if you can afford a million dollar house, you can afford to pay people to take care of that stuff anyways Have you ever owned a large home with significant property? It's ALOT of work. Even if you are hiring people to take care of your mansion, you still have to make sure things are getting done and you aren't getting ripped off, it requires you to manage your property properly. My friend recently moved from a 500,000 home to a 1.5+ million dollar mansion and not much has really changed How much more square footage does he have now compared to then? It depends alot on location. Some locations are clearly a lot more pricey and have smaller spaces and yards. Sometimes you see a home that is a million dollars and it doesn't look like it should be but the location is prime so it affects the cost. It really depends what kind of space you are talking about. Ultimately though, a million dollar home is naturally going to require a lot more time and maintaince then a 150,000 dollar home. Unless you actually own one, I don't think you understand how much maintaince some properties requires depending on what the property is, how much square footage it has and whatever extra's it has like gardens and pools. What a load of bullsh*t. First of all, people are REALISTIC. It's not settling, it's called dating somebody who is your equal and most people are perfectly happy to do that I said my peace on this. If all you can say is "what a load of bullsh*t", your dialogue isn't very interesting. Yes most men would date a 10/10 model if they could, just like most women would date a 10/10 millionaire actor if they could too. Don't sit there and lie through your teeth and pretend that this is a male issue because you know that's nonsense I think you've allowed the world to heavily dictate what is important to you. I try hard not to let the world dictate what is important to me. I don't even think you ar reading my posts to be honest because you just keep saying the same stuff. Because you turn this into a gender issue and it's not a gender issue. It's a universal issue The OP was addressing how men seem to want to date models. The topic wasn't about what women may want. YOU made it a gender issue with your inability to talk about an issue women face without saying, "but women do it too!" I HATE that arguement and it gets used often in message board land. people think if they say, "men/women do it too!" i negates the conversation that was already going on. It's really a rather limited comment that enables that person to not address the actual topic. Why do you never address the issue in terms of the male perspective? Make a thread for it and I promise I will address this. This topic is about men wanting model like women. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Your hypocrisy is repulsive Would I be more appealing to you if I stuck a thermometer up your hinney? Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Make a thread for it and I promise I will address this. This topic is about men wanting model like women. I think the OP said that it is "nonsense" that men only want model like women. He's arguing the exact opposite. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Badsingularity Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The OP was addressing how men seem to want to date models. No. The OP was saying that many people say that men only want to date models and that he thinks that is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Have you ever owned a large home with significant property? It's ALOT of work. Even if you are hiring people to take care of your mansion, you still have to make sure things are getting done and you aren't getting ripped off, it requires you to manage your property properly. I don't own one but my best friend owns one. He has a 10,000 square foot house and it's not really much of a difference from his smaller house. he hires some people to take care of the landscaping and if he has any sort of a snow storm. Overall, it's not much of a difference. It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about I think you've allowed the world to heavily dictate what is important to you. I try hard not to let the world dictate what is important to me. I don't even think you ar reading my posts to be honest because you just keep saying the same stuff. I don't let anybody dictate anything. I just want a partner who is about the equivalent of me (like most men and women do). I would be perfectly happy with that Sure if somebody said I could date a perfect 10 movie star, I would say yes. Who wouldn't? The OP was addressing how men seem to want to date models. The topic wasn't about what women may want. YOU made it a gender issue with your inability to talk about an issue women face without saying, "but women do it too!" I HATE that arguement and it gets used often in message board land. people think if they say, "men/women do it too!" i negates the conversation that was already going on. It's really a rather limited comment that enables that person to not address the actual topic. What an escapist, cowardly response on your behalf. Pathetic, just pathetic Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think the OP said that it is "nonsense" that men only want model like women. He's arguing the exact opposite. Crap! This is what I get for reading a thread quickly, posting and going on about my day. You are right XXOO. The OP was saying it was "nonsense" that men only want model like women. Shoot, sorry OP. But I still maintain that there are lots of guys that do want model like women. Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Crap! This is what I get for reading a thread quickly, posting and going on about my day. You are right XXOO. The OP was saying it was "nonsense" that men only want model like women. Shoot, sorry OP. But I still maintain that there are lots of guys that do want model like women. Lots of women want the perfect knight in shining armor with the big salary and sparkling smile Your argument has no credibility when you turn it into a male issue instead of a universal issue. Zero credibility Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The title is misleading, DY. Lots of women want the perfect knight in shining armor with the big salary and sparkling smile I wonder what is wrong with them, too. I don't wonder why they are single, though! (same with the men) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I wonder what is wrong with them, too. I don't wonder why they are single, though! (same with the men) I agree with you. If you're going to debate this topic, you better make it a universal issue and not a gender issue If you're going to make a gender issue, it's just going to be usual worthless male hating garbage Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 No. The OP was saying that many people say that men only want to date models and that he thinks that is nonsense. Yeah, I see now after XXOO pointed it out to me. As did you Bad. My bad. Link to post Share on other sites
soccerrprp Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I will admit that I always seek out attractive women (in my mind), but don't need models. My late wife was a beautiful, elegant flight attendant and I look mostly for slim, athletic (so that they may be of like mind with my concern with fitness and health) and "attractive" types. But not models. I know that looks fade... Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 StillReigning I don't own one but my best friend owns one. He has a 10,000 square foot house and it's not really much of a difference from his smaller house. he hires some people to take care of the landscaping and if he has any sort of a snow storm. Overall, it's not much of a difference. It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about I don't own a million dollar property but I know what is required to take care of and maintain a large home with a lot of land. It's a lot of work. Even if you are paying people to do the work for you, it's still something you have to manage. Much harder then maintaining a smaller home. That's just common sense Still. What an escapist, cowardly response on your behalf. Pathetic, just pathetic Is that a no to the thermometer then? Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The title is misleading, DY. Yeah, I guess I got too caught up in the title and didn't pay enough attention to the post. I appreciate you pointing out my mistake to me though. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
StillReigning Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I don't own a million dollar property but I know what is required to take care of and maintain a large home with a lot of land. It's a lot of work. Even if you are paying people to do the work for you, it's still something you have to manage. Much harder then maintaining a smaller home. That's just common sense Still. What's your point? My friend still loves his mansion and I love hanging out there Is that a no to the thermometer then? :rolleyes: Glad to see you concede the argument because you know you have no leg to stand on Link to post Share on other sites
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