Men only want models

[mesmerized]

Some men do only go after model quality women, when it comes to commitment that is. That doesn't mean they will all find one though.

[soccerrprp]

Some men do only go after model quality women, when it comes to commitment that is. That doesn't mean they will all find one though.

 

BINGO. So true. And I know guys who do so repeatedly and rejected repeatedly. Some are simply not realistic about dating to the point that they/he/she will not compromise on the looks even if it means never finding someone LT.

[threebyfate]

The only time I hear this concept being stated is usually by low self-esteem individuals, both male and female. It's both projection and also self-protection mechanisms.

[StillReigning]

The only time I hear this concept being stated is usually by low self-esteem individuals, both male and female. It's both projection and also self-protection mechanisms.

 

 

 

Agreed 100 percent

[mortensorchid]

Despite what people may or may not say, I think there is a crazy contradiction out there. People may look at beautiful women and think to themselves "wow she's hot", but when it comes down to it, I think men are very insecure.

 

Argue with me if you want, but men are very insecure and they want someone who is lesser than they are. That means a few things. Money is one thing, we keep falling back on money because money is something tangible - it can be counted, it can be assigned a worth depending on someone's job that they do, etc. But that's another ballgame.

 

It also means that the woman should be less attractive than they are. That can mean looks, it can mean personality, social charisma, etc. Of this they place a great importance. Weight? Well yes that as well. They want women who are in good shape. We cannot all look like Victoria's Secret Angels, granted, but if given a choice a lot of men will choose the less attractive woman because they don't feel superior to them.

 

I say that because of my past experiences. I see who the old bfs did end up with, and most of them look like trash or are/were far less attractive than me. I can say having a pretty face doesn't mean s***, but I am getting more bitter as time goes on.

[johan]

The only time I hear this concept being stated is usually by low self-esteem individuals, both male and female. It's both projection and also self-protection mechanisms.

 

You want a model, TBF. Face it.

[Woggle]

Attractive is subjective though. You might think they are unattractive but these men might think they are gorgeous. It is all in the eye of the beholder.

[brahmabull117]

Attractive is subjective though. You might think they are unattractive but these men might think they are gorgeous. It is all in the eye of the beholder.

 

 

 

When I hear this, I want to vomit. I really do

 

 

This is the same "everybody is beautiful" garbage we feed to fat people to make them feel okay about their weight. Sorry no, attractive people are attractive. If there was so much subjectivity, then you wouldn't have the same people topping the world's most beautiful celebs list year in and year out. Brad Pitt in 1998 would't be loved by 95% of the world's female population

 

 

Looks are subjective to a small degree - one guy's moderately attractive woman could be another guy's knockout but it's relatively small.

[KraftDinner]

Generally speaking, men don't have much trouble finding a woman attractive enough to sleep with. When it comes to committing to one woman for the rest of their lives, that is where the attractiveness standards tend to skyrocket. As women generally are not into just sleeping with anyone, you can understand where they might get that impression as they are only looking for guys that will commit to them.

 

Not only do we live in the same city, but we were born in the same year (assuming 1973 is your birth year) AND I totally agree with you.

[Woggle]

When I hear this, I want to vomit. I really do

 

 

This is the same "everybody is beautiful" garbage we feed to fat people to make them feel okay about their weight. Sorry no, attractive people are attractive. If there was so much subjectivity, then you wouldn't have the same people topping the world's most beautiful celebs list year in and year out. Brad Pitt in 1998 would't be loved by 95% of the world's female population

 

 

Looks are subjective to a small degree - one guy's moderately attractive woman could be another guy's knockout but it's relatively small.

 

It's the truth though. What somebody finds attractive another person might not.

[M30USA]

I just can't resist sharing this! It's kind of in jest, but a lot of truth is said in jest.

 

[Anela]

I just can't resist sharing this! It's kind of in jest, but a lot of truth is said in jest.

 

 

johan's comment above, had me thinking of this:

[brahmabull117]

johan's comment above, had me thinking of this:

 

 

 

I don't understand why there's constant attempts by people here to portray good looking people as being lesser quality folks

 

 

I have 2 sisters who are drop dead gorgeous who are extremely sweet, intelligent and great moms/wives. My best friend's girlfriend is a beauty contest competitor and is one of the nicest girls I've ever met. My best friend's cousin is beautiful and is just awesome all around...slight tomboy too, she's perfect. I have male friends who look like fitness magazine models and they're great guys with a great heart

 

 

Stop the dumb generalizations. I actually believe most people in general are good folks, it's all about how you treat them

[Anela]

I don't understand why there's constant attempts by people here to portray good looking people as being lesser quality folks

 

 

I have 2 sisters who are drop dead gorgeous who are extremely sweet, intelligent and great moms/wives. My best friend's girlfriend is a beauty contest competitor and is one of the nicest girls I've ever met. My best friend's cousin is beautiful and is just awesome all around...slight tomboy too, she's perfect. I have male friends who look like fitness magazine models and they're great guys with a great heart

 

 

Stop the dumb generalizations. I actually believe most people in general are good folks, it's all about how you treat them

 

Johan was joking, and it reminded of something that amused me. That's all.

 

I don't go around putting people down, just because they're pretty. I've received enough flack just for having a decent-sized chest; apparently, some people think that I inflate them every day, just for their enjoyment (or to get attention). I've taken good-natured teasing for years, as well as some that was more cruel in nature (for all sorts of reasons). I don't look like a model, and I'm supposed to take it on the chin, like a good sport.

Edited August 18, 2012 by Anela

[brahmabull117]

Johan was joking, and it reminded of something that amused me. That's all.

 

I don't go around putting people down, just because they're pretty. I've received enough flack just for having a decent-sized chest; apparently, some people think that I inflate them every day, just for their enjoyment (or to get attention). I've taken good-natured teasing for years, as well as some that was more cruel in nature (for all sorts of reasons). I don't look like a model, and I'm supposed to take it on the chin, like a good sport.

 

 

 

I don't even understand why this "I'm not a model" issue comes up

 

 

The only guys who generally demand that their women be perfectly looking are guys who are nearly perfect looking themselves. The majority of couples feature people in the same attractiveness range. If you're going for guys who are as attractive as you are, what's the issue?

[Anela]

I don't even understand why this "I'm not a model" issue comes up

 

 

The only guys who generally demand that their women be perfectly looking are guys who are nearly perfect looking themselves. The majority of couples feature people in the same attractiveness range. If you're going for guys who are as attractive as you are, what's the issue?

 

Maybe their own insecurities that leave them needing a trophy to boost their egos?

 

I'm not going to get into this tonight.

[brahmabull117]

Maybe their own insecurities that leave them needing a trophy to boost their egos?

 

 

Most people date people who are as attractive as themselves. This is a damn near scientific fact

 

 

 

You said you're very shy/awkward in your other thread. That's your real problem. It's 2012, you can't expect guys to do everything. Actually go out there and put in some work. Guys aren't as vicious as you think we are and we won't turn you down for not looking like a playboy model. Hell I would go out with a girl who is a decent amount below me in appearance if I liked her enough (good people get more attractive as you get to know them anyways).

[Anela]

Most people date people who are as attractive as themselves. This is a damn near scientific fact

 

 

 

You said you're very shy/awkward in your other thread. That's your real problem. It's 2012, you can't expect guys to do everything. Actually go out there and put in some work. Guys aren't as vicious as you think we are and we won't turn you down for not looking like a playboy model. Hell I would go out with a girl who is a decent amount below me in appearance if I liked her enough (good people get more attractive as you get to know them anyways).

 

I DON'T expect guys to do everything. I've been the one to initiate the, "Are we ever going to do this??" talk, in regards to meeting someone online, in the past. I don't throw myself at men, generally - I've always believed that if there's something there, then any "chasing" would be mutual, and things would happen on their own.

 

I've been isolated, and that's been a big part of it in the past. I've also had rather consistent reminders that I'm just not worthy, though. Either I'll be good for sex, or I'm the sidekick (and I don't put myself out there for sex). That's why I didn't want to get into it tonight. I've spent much of my time recently, just crying a lot. It isn't just my shyness, and this stupid idiot who broke my heart, was good-looking, but one of the most bitter and insecure guys I've ever met. I admit to my own problems/issues; it doesn't take away from the fact that I'm just not wanted, okay?

[brahmabull117]

I DON'T expect guys to do everything. I've been the one to initiate the, "Are we ever going to do this??" talk, in regards to meeting someone online, in the past. I don't throw myself at men, generally - I've always believed that if there's something there, then any "chasing" would be mutual, and things would happen on their own.

 

I've been isolated, and that's been a big part of it in the past. I've also had rather consistent reminders that I'm just not worthy, though. Either I'll be good for sex, or I'm the sidekick (and I don't put myself out there for sex). That's why I didn't want to get into it tonight. I've spent much of my time recently, just crying a lot. It isn't just my shyness, and this stupid idiot who broke my heart, was good-looking, but one of the most bitter and insecure guys I've ever met. I admit to my own problems/issues; it doesn't take away from the fact that I'm just not wanted, okay?

 

 

Look, I'm not trying to upset you. All I'm saying is that most people date people who very similar to themselves in areas like appearance, money, etc... This whole myth on love shack that every guy out there wants a playmate is complete horsesh*t. There's maybe a small percentage of people who want a partner that's way out of their league but it's fairly rare.

 

 

Life is a big grind and we all have good days and we have bad days. Sitting there and sulking and having a defeatist attitude just drives you deeper and deeper into your hole of making you think that you're not worthy and that you'll never succeed. It's like self reinforcement theory. You're reinforcing the idea in your head over and over and over again that you're not worthy of finding somebody and this is reflected in your conversations with men in real life.

 

 

If you do a decent job of taking care of yourself, it shouldn't be that hard to find a partner. There's what? 3 billion men on this planet. Rejection's part of the game, losing's a part of life. You gotta keep grinding until you find the right person and you won't succeed in that grind unless you have a positive attitude. Nobody wants to talk to people with a negative attitude. This is real life, nothing is guaranteed. You gotta take what you want and you're going to end up lonely and miserable if you don't put in some work

 

 

Bottom line is that you have to at least give yourself a chance to succeed and I doubt you're doing that

[TheBigQuestion]

I don't understand why there's constant attempts by people here to portray good looking people as being lesser quality folks

 

 

I have 2 sisters who are drop dead gorgeous who are extremely sweet, intelligent and great moms/wives. My best friend's girlfriend is a beauty contest competitor and is one of the nicest girls I've ever met. My best friend's cousin is beautiful and is just awesome all around...slight tomboy too, she's perfect. I have male friends who look like fitness magazine models and they're great guys with a great heart

 

 

Stop the dumb generalizations. I actually believe most people in general are good folks, it's all about how you treat them

 

It's pure envy and jealousy, good sir. Even if it hasn't actually happened in this thread, women cutting down other women whom they perceive as being more attractive than them, physically or otherwise, is (unfortunately) a very widespread phenomenon.

 

Generally speaking, I've found that highly attractive women are usually very nice people. The ones you have to watch out for are the average/homely looking ones who mistake themselves for being the next coming of Kate Upton. The biggest, most egregious bitches I've ever met have never exactly been the cream of the crop appearance-wise.

 

This is perhaps a loose analogy, but there are similarities between who does and does not become an outspoken feminist. Sure, most women who talk about deserving equal pay are rational normal people, but outspoken, hardline feminists rarely look like the women any sane guy would f**k anyway.

[Anela]

It's pure envy and jealousy, good sir. Even if it hasn't actually happened in this thread, women cutting down other women whom they perceive as being more attractive than them, physically or otherwise, is (unfortunately) a very widespread phenomenon.

 

Generally speaking, I've found that highly attractive women are usually very nice people. The ones you have to watch out for are the average/homely looking ones who mistake themselves for being the next coming of Kate Upton. The biggest, most egregious bitches I've ever met have never exactly been the cream of the crop appearance-wise.

 

This is perhaps a loose analogy, but there are similarities between who does and does not become an outspoken feminist. Sure, most women who talk about deserving equal pay are rational normal people, but outspoken, hardline feminists rarely look like the women any sane guy would f**k anyway.

 

I wasn't cutting anyone down, and I'm usually very nice, so where does that put me?

[TheBigQuestion]

I wasn't cutting anyone down, and I'm usually very nice, so where does that put me?

 

Re-read my post. I said that it hasn't happened in this thread. Not everything is about you.

[xxoo]

When I hear this, I want to vomit. I really do

 

 

This is the same "everybody is beautiful" garbage we feed to fat people to make them feel okay about their weight. Sorry no, attractive people are attractive. If there was so much subjectivity, then you wouldn't have the same people topping the world's most beautiful celebs list year in and year out. Brad Pitt in 1998 would't be loved by 95% of the world's female population

 

 

Looks are subjective to a small degree - one guy's moderately attractive woman could be another guy's knockout but it's relatively small.

 

Lists of beautiful celebs are obviously based on objective beauty, but beauty is far more subjective when it comes to people we know and love.

 

This article does a good job of showing love affects attraction in one husband, whose brain shows he finds his average wife to be just as attractive as Angelina Jolie: The MRI of Love

[PJKino]

That's right, keep on telling women to get nose jobs and boobs jobs to make you happy and how easy everything is for them. And whine about how hard it is for men.

 

Keep telling women to conform to a construct of beauty you let yourself buy into and now want women to buy into to feed your fantasies...yeah, that's totally healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

Keep telling yourself that next time you see the latest issue of Playboy, Maxim, yet another movie with James Bond and a new young hot babe on his arm, another female "artists" bouncing around the stage in school girl skirt, pretty much the majority of advertising that uses women and their bodies to sell products, the level of standards and produres wome nare expected to conform to......but yeah, keep telling yourself it's hader for you.

 

As for telling me I am a Male Basher, show me where I bashed men.

 

Yes youre right women have no rigid standards physically for a man

 

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[Disenchantedly Yours]

DrGoebbels

DY, I have a question for you.

 

Look through internet dating profiles, how many male profiles say "I'm only interested in women with D cups" compared to female profiles that say "don't message me unless you're 6' and over" ?

 

I have seen plenty of male profiles that said things like, "Don't message me if you are fat, nasty, lazy, greedy, into money, don't like the fact that I am going to go out and party with my boys..." and a host of other things like that Dr.Goebbels. Usually any profile from a man or woman that says, "don't message me if x,y or z..." you can tell that person is lacking some communication skills.