Women who put topless pics online

[kaylan]

Also , there is such a thing as tact and knowing how to highlight your attributes. You dont do that by trying to show off parts of yourself that most people find unattractive...thats just reality. There are certain things you do and dont do in public. Its about decency, and your personal views on decency will be shown by how you present yourself.

 

I wouldnt equate walking around half naked, or taking naked internet photos that never go way, to interracial dating and homosexuality. Nudity is a completely different subject. Theres a time and a place. Sure Ill walk around the beach or park half naked and show off...hellz yes I will. I wont do it walking around in the city trying to look all bad ass though.

Edited August 19, 2012 by kaylan

[Radu]

How would you feel about Moira Johnston then???

 

I had no ideea who that was, i googled her.

 

A few months ago, a woman was raped, beaten, doused with gasoline and set on fire to remove evidence of what they did, by 3x 20yr olds in Ukraine.

1 or 2 of them had parents in high ranking gov positions.

The woman was found burned the next morning, but miraculosly still alive, she lived long enough [in terrible pain] with her legs reduced to carbon to identify the ones who did this to her.

The police quickly arrested them, told the media, etc ...

Several hs later, when they realised who their parents were, they released them all but the one who didn't have high ranking parents.

Tried to sweep it under the rug.

A group of women demonstrated topless in front of the police precinct, climbed the building, refused to get down, even when laws were against this and the police was known for their brutality.

After a few hs they were arrested, they did it to draw even more attention to this horrific case.

The case was not settled and you can be your sweet ass that these girls experienced real abuse in prison.

 

Just recently, there was the Pussy Riot issue in Russia.

Anyone who is familiar with their system, knows that the hatred that communism gave to the ppl is still alive there, and those girls will get abused in prison for this, as they are now enemies of the state.

 

And then you have this prissy american girl, 29, who obeys the law, in one of the most liberal places in America who also gets some 'verbal abuse' from one or more of the guys there who have some morals.

Oh how brave she is, for exposing her tits in a public place, in a city that will never hurt her for it, in the daylight.

Oh wow, let's give her a trophy, make her a HERO even.

Entitled brat.

[mesmerized]

Also , there is such a thing as tact and knowing how to highlight your attributes. You dont do that by trying to show off parts of yourself that most people find unattractive...thats just reality. There are certain things you do and dont do in public. Its about decency, and your personal views on decency will be shown by how you present yourself.

 

That, I agree with. If this girl posted her topless pictures online and was looking for attention, it'd be laughable because she is not attractive enough for that.

 

I wouldnt equate walking around half naked, or taking naked internet photos that never go way, to interracial dating and homosexuality. Nudity is a completely different subject. Theres a time and a place. Sure Ill walk around the beach or park half naked and show off...hellz yes I will. I wont do it walking around in the city trying to look all bad ass though.

 

But why do you think nudity is such a different subject than other social norms? You know in muslim countries they make the exact same argument for women only showing their hair. To them it's just as bad and offensive for the same reasons. Whereas to us it doesn't make any sense.

[rainfall]

I can't imagine you ever being good at logic.

 

- Why is it skanky and bad if a woman shows her breasts

- Because it's trashy.

- Why is it trashy?

- Because no decent woman with self-respect would do it.

- But WHY do you think no decent woman with self-respect should do it? How are these related?

- Because it's a bad thing to do

- Why bad?

- Because it is trashy?

 

I guess ALL I'm asking people here is to overthink their "strong" views about this subject or any other for that matter. There were times (and hell still is!) that people objected the same way to interracial dating, homosexuality or even simpler things like races/sexes having the same equal human rights and now to a lot of us they sound like a no-brainer.

 

Maybe I'm just too liberal for a forum full of Americans.

 

 

Women should have more going for them then being able to take their clothes off and expecting it to get them a decent guy or get them anything. Women should have more respect for their body then to just parade around naked for everyone in th eplanet to see.

[kaylan]

That, I agree with. If this girl posted her topless pictures online and was looking for attention, it'd be laughable because she is not attractive enough for that.

 

 

 

But why do you think nudity is such a different subject than other social norms? You know in muslim countries they make the exact same argument for women only showing their hair. To them it's just as bad and offensive for the same reasons. Whereas to us it doesn't make any sense.

Nudity involves sexual organs. I was not aware that hair was a sexual organ lol

[mesmerized]

Nudity involves sexual organs. I was not aware that hair was a sexual organ lol

 

To muslim men, almost any body part of a woman is a sexual thing that can get them aroused, no joke!

 

And if we are talking just sex, I would say breasts are not sexual organs either as their primary reason is feeding babies. Even if you look at primitive tribes, they cover their private parts but not breasts. This idea that breasts are sexual organs is rather a new thing.

Edited August 19, 2012 by mesmerized

[sally4sara]

Sees there's a difference though. I just say I don't want kids, and some chick taking naked pictures is an action where they are showing that they are a trashy person. To me a skanky person gets naked for anyone and has no self respect. These woman wonder why people view them this way. Well it's because any decent chick won't take her clothes off for random strangers

 

Okay then if a woman has self respect and takes their clothes off in view of others then they don't fit your label. I never wondered why people think like you. Some people believe the world is only 7000 years old; no point in wondering why they believe that.

 

Yes decent women do. And yes women can respect themselves AND take their clothes off. The lack of respect and the lack of decency manifests out of you and people like you. You have an opinion but it doesn't mean the person you have that opinion about has to be those things or feel the same way you do about it. Your opinion is not that powerful.

[Radu]

Okay then if a woman has self respect and takes their clothes off in view of others then they don't fit your label. I never wondered why people think like you. Some people believe the world is only 7000 years old; no point in wondering why they believe that.

 

Yes decent women do. And yes women can respect themselves AND take their clothes off. The lack of respect and the lack of decency manifests out of you and people like you. You have an opinion but it doesn't mean the person you have that opinion about has to be those things or feel the same way you do about it. Your opinion is not that powerful.

 

Are you married ?

 

Why don't you go and ask your H if he minds you streaking downtown LA/SF.

[rainfall]

Yes decent women do. And yes women can respect themselves AND take their clothes off. The lack of respect and the lack of decency manifests out of you and people like you. You have an opinion but it doesn't mean the person you have that opinion about has to be those things or feel the same way you do about it. Your opinion is not that powerful.

 

 

Your kidding me right? The lack of respect manifests out of the fact that they are getting naked for random strangers. I guess some woman have nothing esle going for them, and they think the only way to get anyone to pay attention to them is to get naked for random people, but it is still trashy.

Of course the person taking there clothes off for everyone isn't going to say"Oh yes most people are right, I am a skank..." My opinon isn't that powerful? Its seems most people on here think women who post naked pictures are trashy to some extent.

[sally4sara]

Are you married ?

 

Why don't you go and ask your H if he minds you streaking downtown LA/SF.

 

I took the job as a dancer when my ex husband and I had been together about 5 months. He proposed while I still held the job. I worked it for almost two years after we were married. Must not have bothered him as much as it would you. And it would seem I was relationship material after all. That marriage ended due to his alcoholism and infidelity. I was faithful through out.

 

My husband now? He wouldn't be bothered at all. I haven't danced for 16 years now but a few years back I did sit for a photographer friend when his model no showed on him. It was a very tasteful nude. Backside only in the position of the Libra zodiac (the scales). He wanted to put a print of it up in the living room. I'm not vain enough for that and said it was inappropriate for living room art. He made a screensaver of it and its on his PC at work. He laughs at the way many of the men on here think and asks me why I bother with this place. I often ask myself the same. I take many hiatuses come back for a month or so to find the SSDD.

 

Its funny you should ask what he would think of someone streaking naked downtown SF. Its clear you've never been to downtown San Fran. Naked men walking around running errands is pretty common. We just got back from there two weeks ago. No one cared. No one made a fuss. They were just naked people.

[sally4sara]

Your kidding me right? The lack of respect manifests out of the fact that they are getting naked for random strangers. I guess some woman have nothing esle going for them, and they think the only way to get anyone to pay attention to them is to get naked for random people, but it is still trashy.

Of course the person taking there clothes off for everyone isn't going to say"Oh yes most people are right, I am a skank..." My opinon isn't that powerful? Its seems most people on here think women who post naked pictures are trashy to some extent.

 

I read what they think and what you think. No one on here has an opinion powerful enough to make people BE what they assume that person to be. You might assume they have nothing else going on for them but it doesn't make it a fact. Just like someone might assume a person working in a fast food place or a pizza shop doesn't have anything going on for them either or they would be working in a more highly respected field; one that required some intelligence instead of a job that mentally handicapped people can be taught to do. Would it make it true? They could assume they don't have goals or ambition and are therefore "not relationship material". Does not having respect for low wage earning joe jobs disqualify people for long term relationships? Some people would think it does. But its just an opinion.

[VodkaShots]

I think it depends. A woman looking for a serious relationship shouldn't be sending nudes/topless pics to attract men, it's just completely misguided and trashy. Casual sex is another issue.

 

The same with men. Dating websites are filled with men who have bodybuilder physiques posing topless in the mirror, but I can't help but cringe when their profiles go on about how they're looking for serious relationships (again, casual sex is another thing). It just doesn't go well. Just stick to modest pictures, night-outs or garden pics or something. Hide the flesh for a later date.

[rainfall]

I took the job as a dancer when my ex husband and I had been together about 5 months. He proposed while I still held the job. I worked it for almost two years after we were married. Must not have bothered him as much as it would you. And it would seem I was relationship material after all. That marriage ended due to his alcoholism and infidelity. I was faithful through out.

 

My husband now? He wouldn't be bothered at all. I haven't danced for 16 years now but a few years back I did sit for a photographer friend when his model no showed on him. It was a very tasteful nude. Backside only in the position of the Libra zodiac (the scales). He wanted to put a print of it up in the living room. I'm not vain enough for that and said it was inappropriate for living room art. He made a screensaver of it and its on his PC at work. He laughs at the way many of the men on here think and asks me why I bother with this place. I often ask myself the same. I take many hiatuses come back for a month or so to find the SSDD.

 

Its funny you should ask what he would think of someone streaking naked downtown SF. Its clear you've never been to downtown San Fran. Naked men walking around running errands is pretty common. We just got back from there two weeks ago. No one cared. No one made a fuss. They were just naked people.

 

Youmay be relationship material for some. Some people have higher standers though,and don’t want a chick that is willing to dance around naked for anyone. Iwould be worried and offended if my SO was ok with me being a stripper or doingnaked pictures. I would wonder why he didn’t value me enough to want what wehave to be special just for us

[sally4sara]

Youmay be relationship material for some. Some people have higher standers though,and don’t want a chick that is willing to dance around naked for anyone. Iwould be worried and offended if my SO was ok with me being a stripper or doingnaked pictures. I would wonder why he didn’t value me enough to want what wehave to be special just for us

 

It absolutely does come down to values and there is a blend out there for most people. For instance I wouldn't want to be with someone stuck in a fast food position. Most people I enjoy have a higher intelligence than that job requires. I can see working that type of work in a pinch but it being all they do - hell no. Even a starving artist has more interest to me than Suzie Pizza Sauce. She needs to learn to work smart not hard! Dancing was pretty much the same as going to the gym and making nigh 6 figures a years.

Another think that goes on my "not relationship material" list is a lack of critical thinking. It is hard for me to enjoy someone on the long term who has obvious signs of a lower intelligence. I don't enjoy people who make snap judgments about others based on small pieces of information. People who take short cuts to thinking because logic is too much work for them. And I wouldn't be with someone who has such a low self esteem that they are always on the lookout for people they think they can pretend they are "better" than.

 

You wish you had someone like my husband who treated you as good as he treats me! Its nice being with a man who isn't so dumb as to believe if someone spies too much of my boob I'll just have to eff them.

[kaylan]

Its about respect...and many men find it disrespectful for a woman to share her naked parts with other men. Also many men want a woman who can provide for herself with things besides her body....too many women nowadays have no sort of earning potential outside of fading beauty.

 

Beauty fades and ill take the smart career minded gall any day of the week. A lot of us guys want a chick who doesnt go the typical route of using her looks to get by. We want to know shes got more substance than that. Sorry if that bothers you.

 

Deal with it. You have a husband so why care what other men want in a woman? If guys dont wanna deal with sex industry workers...then thats their deal. Keep it moving.

 

PS - lol @ you bashing fast food workers as not having intelligence, when thats the furthest thing needed in any sex industry work lmao. Oh the irony.

Edited August 19, 2012 by kaylan

[sally4sara]

Its about respect...and many men find it disrespectful for a woman to share her naked parts with other men. Also many men want a woman who can provide for herself with things besides her body....too many women nowadays have no sort of earning potential outside of fading beauty.

 

Deal with it. You have a husband so why care what other men want in a woman? If guys dont wanna deal with sex industry workers...then thats their deal. Keep it moving.

 

Did it ever occur to you that if we are talking about a woman using a naked pic for a dating site lure - she wouldn't have much use for the profile once in a committed relationship? I agree, its not the smart move. She would have to spend way too much time sifting through the people that type of profile would appeal to to find someone with real intent.

 

If we're talking about some girl with a risque FB photo - oh yeah she is doing it for attention. And she is probably really young and not YET relationship material for far more reasons that just having her tits out. Just like dumb young guys are not relationship material YET for a number of reasons.

 

And sweetie, I work in a design field. I haven't danced in 16 years. Its clear however that nudity isn't the big red mark people might enjoy thinking it is. It won't prevent them from having a happy healthy relationship, being a mother or wife, holding a less sexually charged job, and all the trimmings that come with "normal life". It sure didn't stop me or the girls I worked with back then that I still talk to around the holidays about how our men and kids are doing.

[rainfall]

It absolutely does come down to values and there is a blend out there for most people. For instance I wouldn't want to be with someone stuck in a fast food position. Most people I enjoy have a higher intelligence than that job requires. I can see working that type of work in a pinch but it being all they do - hell no. Even a starving artist has more interest to me than Suzie Pizza Sauce. She needs to learn to work smart not hard! Dancing was pretty much the same as going to the gym and making nigh 6 figures a years.

Another think that goes on my "not relationship material" list is a lack of critical thinking. It is hard for me to enjoy someone on the long term who has obvious signs of a lower intelligence. I don't enjoy people who make snap judgments about others based on small pieces of information. People who take short cuts to thinking because logic is too much work for them. And I wouldn't be with someone who has such a low self esteem that they are always on the lookout for people they think they can pretend they are "better" than.

 

You wish you had someone like my husband who treated you as good as he treats me! Its nice being with a man who isn't so dumb as to believe if someone spies too much of my boob I'll just have to eff them.

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[kaylan]

Did it ever occur to you that if we are talking about a woman using a naked pic for a dating site lure - she wouldn't have much use for the profile once in a committed relationship? I agree, its not the smart move. She would have to spend way too much time sifting through the people that type of profile would appeal to to find someone with real intent.

 

If we're talking about some girl with a risque FB photo - oh yeah she is doing it for attention. And she is probably really young and not YET relationship material for far more reasons that just having her tits out. Just like dumb young guys are not relationship material YET for a number of reasons.

 

And sweetie, I work in a design field. I haven't danced in 16 years. Its clear however that nudity isn't the big red mark people might enjoy thinking it is. It won't prevent them from having a happy healthy relationship, being a mother or wife, holding a less sexually charged job, and all the trimmings that come with "normal life". It sure didn't stop me or the girls I worked with back then that I still talk to around the holidays about how our men and kids are doing.

So its ok for you to judge those in "less intelligent" fields....but you get butt hurt when people judge sex workers?

 

Your viewpoint has strong bias and a lack of logic. If you can judge others, I can judge your previous line of work. Get over it.

 

Personally, me and a lot of other guys, dont care for a woman whos ever needed to use her looks to get ahead. Its just a straight turn off

Edited August 19, 2012 by kaylan

[sally4sara]

So its ok for you to judge those in "less intelligent" fields....but you get butt hurt when people judge sex workers?

 

Your viewpoint has strong bias and a lack of logic. If you can judge others, I can judge your previous line of work. Get over it.

 

Could there be an Einstein working at Pizza Hut year after year after year after year? Oh I'm sure its possible. And I think most of us at some point have held a McJob. Usually when we are in our teens. I remember when I worked my McJob. No one but the Asperger's afflicted guy managing the place intended to work there as a career. We also were part of a program that helped mentally handicapped people work towards some manner of self sufficiency but providing them with work they could accomplish. There was no such program at the agency I worked for as a dancer.

I'm not butt hurt fella. While out with friends last night we were laughing at the posts in this thread on our way to the house party after dinner. Its amusing. You don't seem amused. Do you work a McJob? Do you plan to work that McJob forever?

[veggirl]

What's with the euphemisms. If you take your clothes off for money in a strip joint you are a stripper. Not a dancer. Call a spade a spade esp if you're so proud of it.

[kaylan]

What's with the euphemisms. If you take your clothes off for money in a strip joint you are a stripper. Not a dancer. Call a spade a spade esp if you're so proud of it.

this exactly

Could there be an Einstein working at Pizza Hut year after year after year after year? Oh I'm sure its possible. And I think most of us at some point have held a McJob. Usually when we are in our teens. I remember when I worked my McJob. No one but the Asperger's afflicted guy managing the place intended to work there as a career. We also were part of a program that helped mentally handicapped people work towards some manner of self sufficiency but providing them with work they could accomplish. There was no such program at the agency I worked for as a dancer.

"Dancer"

 

The point that remains is that you can look down on people who work fast food, but how dare anyone look down on a stripper whos only asset is her body

 

I'm not butt hurt fella. While out with friends last night we were laughing at the posts in this thread on our way to the house party after dinner. Its amusing. You don't seem amused. Do you work a McJob? Do you plan to work that McJob forever?

Actually you are butt hurt. Which is why you keep defending your judgmental-ness but are so offended that someone dare judge the job you used to have. And whats really telling is that now all of a sudden you try to imply that I work at a fast food joint. Sorry hun, I dont. I was simply calling out your hypocrisy.

 

Pathetic.

Edited August 19, 2012 by kaylan

[sally4sara]

What's with the euphemisms. If you take your clothes off for money in a strip joint you are a stripper. Not a dancer. Call a spade a spade esp if you're so proud of it.

 

Call it whatever you want. Its not like I'm claiming I was on broadway and no one seemed confused. I'm sorry if it was hard for you to follow and understand.

[Kofybean]

What's with the euphemisms. If you take your clothes off for money in a strip joint you are a stripper. Not a dancer. Call a spade a spade esp if you're so proud of it.

 

Some of them really don't like to be called that. Its like this one job I had that the Sales Reps were called Account Executives. Go figure.

[sally4sara]

this exactly"Dancer"

 

The point that remains is that you can look down on people who work fast food, but how dare anyone look down on a stripper whos only asset is her body

 

 

Actually you are butt hurt. Which is why you keep defending your judgmental-ness but are so offended that someone dare judge the job you used to have. And whats really telling is that now all of a sudden you try to imply that I work at a fast food joint. Sorry hun, I dont. I was simply calling out your hypocrisy.

 

Pathetic.

 

To begin with, the question of how one could choose to look down on others for many things that didn't begin and end with nude photos, was a point lost on Rainfall over there. I picked fast food work as an example. I find it hilarious anyone would defend fast food work any more than dancing or nude modeling. Show me all the people with plans for a career in fast food work and I'll show you most of those plan to OWN ONE. No one plans to flip burgers or box pizzas forever. Rainfall even endearingly reminds us that her co-workers are young people (with plans for more) and old people (with plans on dying).

Or I wonder.....maybe you're all right. There must be like scads of old people dreaming of rubbing on the bengay before heading to work at the register of Dominos and mixing dough! Is anyone here dreaming of a life of shift manager at Domino's? If anyone is dreaming about a life in fast food it is to own one.

 

*shiver*

Whoa. I just had this flash of all these people sitting behind a monitor slack jawed, muttering under their breath every couple of minutes "huhuh skanks" with their work shirt still on smelling like stale yeast and vegetable oil. Totally missing how someone showed you how you think by talking down on you smelly lot. Instead you get offended. GO CHANGE YOUR SHIRT! Friggen hilarious!

[haribogumsnickers]

Topless is more modest than bottomless?