Heightism on twitter

[yongyong]

It's kind of like guys bashing fat chicks.

fat chicks just walking, not breaking any law. guys will say 'f-ing fat chick' for no reason.

 

the only difference is you can control your weight but you can't do anything with your height.

Stop crying fat girls. hit the treadmill and drop your brownie.

[Titanwolf]

Ok, I usually only post when I feel emotionally partial to the post. With that said, here are my sentiments.

 

I have to laugh. I have never met an intelligent woman who held these sentiments. Of the 2 women that called me "small", both were "conventionally ugly", stupid and fat (overweight doesn't really fit the role here). Women who share this hatred for an immutable trait, that has no bearing on a man's character or capabilities, are often from the bottom of the barrel so to speak. I read on twitter once, something from a woman, along the lines of "I hate short men, we should just put them all on an island and blow it up" and I just thought "wow", you're calling for mass genocide, just because men (who are not yourself) were not genetically fortunate enough to be blessed with height?. That's when I became apathetic to it all. When women want me dead, because my genetics caused me to be short(er).

 

Might I add, height is relative. If all men 5'8 and under, did die tomorrow, a new set of parameters would be set and 5'9-6'0 would soon be considered less attractive. Come on guys, break the habit and avoid these venomous comments.

[rocketman122]

6'1" here so no issue with vertical. some hard comments on that video. not cool. hard to tell but some of them look good in those thumbnails..mmm.

 

I think though theres a lot of whining going on though. go to the gym dress well, shower, yes, smell good. work on talking to woman and you should have more options available to you. I make it sound so simple but if youre a fat guy who looks like a bum its not helping you. work on your weaknesses.

[soccerrprp]

My current gf is 2 inches taller than I am! And when she's wearing heels, yikes! She and I have no problems. I have had reasonable success dating and I am under 5'8. I admit only one of the ladies i've dated was taller than me, but most INTELLIGENT women don't give too much concern over height of the guy.

 

Don't buy into the video. It's rubbish and mostly shows insecure and nasty girls. Notice that the vast majority, if not all, are very young? Immature and have little or no idea what a real relationship entails and it's not the height of any guy. Tall guys do their fair share of beating, neglecting, abusing, dumping...just saying.

 

I laugh because I have never had problems dating because of my height, or been dumped because of my height. Never been tormented because of it. Maybe I've been lucky... There's a simple solution anyway. Date ladies who are as tall or shorter...plenty short ladies in the world.

Edited August 17, 2012 by soccerrprp

[MrCastle]

6'1" here so no issue with vertical. some hard comments on that video. not cool. hard to tell but some of them look good in those thumbnails..mmm.

 

I think though theres a lot of whining going on though. go to the gym dress well, shower, yes, smell good. work on talking to woman and you should have more options available to you. I make it sound so simple but if youre a fat guy who looks like a bum its not helping you. work on your weaknesses.

 

With all due respect your comment is invalid because you're not short. While I agree you should have a positive outlook no matter your physical shortcomings, this is simply not something you can relate to.

 

It's not as easy as it sounds, especially given what we've seen in the video, no matter the quality of the girls in said video. I doubt you'll find the same kind of hatred spewed for tall men. Unless you're in it, you really can't understand it or relate to it, again, with all due respect.

Edited August 18, 2012 by MrCastle

[Caius Ballad]

Be a man and stop crying about it.

 

Everytime I see man-up or be-a-man I think of people turning a blind eye to James Holmes. Hey James, you got rage in you.......well man-up about it.

[MrCastle]

Let me start off by saying this is mostly only a problem online. I don't think I've ever been rejected for my height in person, at least not to my knowledge. If a woman rejected me, I never even thought my height was the problem and if it was, it was never made known to me. I do know about 4 out of every 5 profiles I see online say "must be tall" in the message me if section and that is not an exaggeration.

 

I presented an idea in another height related thread that I don't believe went answered but basically, my premise was, at least in my online search results, the bulk of women I'm finding are 5'7+, that's pretty tall for a woman. I figure the average height of women online is slightly taller than in real life. Most women I come across in real life are my height or shorter. Most women online are my height or taller. I assume for those women it's harder to find dates because 1.) They want a man who's taller than them (that market shrinks the taller they are) and/or 2.) Short men with insecurity issues don't want to date taller women. Either way, it's something huge online, but not in real life, just by what I've seen. My guess are a lot of tall women are insecure themselves, because just like men are not supposed to be short, women are not supposed to be tall. Both of them are outside of the norm. I would assume taller women feel insecure about their height, and they're mad that they tower over most short and average height men, because it makes them feel less feminine. To combat that, they date only taller men, so they can feel more feminine, even though that whole masculine men are tall thing is bs, but we'll go with that idea for now.

 

Once again though, it's something I've really only found online. In real life I've had two women who were 5'10 interested in me and I don't care if a woman is taller than me or not, or wants to wear heels or whatever, I'll date her.

 

With that said, being short is a real struggle. Some people are more hung up on it than others, but the fact remains, it's not easy. You are constantly tested and underestimated because of your size, by both women and your fellow men. People think they can bump into you and push you around in bars or other crowded social settings without saying sorry because they figure "what's he gonna do about it?". It's something you live with your entire life. It's not like you were tall at one point, for a few years of your life, and then got short. It's not like you decided to be short, and then when you realized women like taller men you said "Oh okay, no problem, I'll just get taller". It is not like being fat because you can always exercise and work out and mold the body type you desire.

 

Race and height are the two physical things you can't change about yourself and low and behold, two big factors when it comes to dating selection. So you can understand the frustration of people that are minorities, or short, or both. Again, if you're not part of that group, then you really can't relate.

 

With all that said, it's honestly something I never worried about in my real life, outside of the internet, because again, as I've said before, taller women have been into me. But when you come online and read some of the stuff you read, or you compare your real world dating success to your online dating success, it's hard not to think about.

[Cracker Jack]

Everytime I see man-up or be-a-man I think of people turning a blind eye to James Holmes. Hey James, you got rage in you.......well man-up about it.

 

That's...like the worse comparison ever!

 

My point is to live your life and not dwell on something you can't really change. Have thicker skin and understand some people won't like you for you, or your height, complexion, whatever. If you actually read the message, you'd understand that.

 

But you're the guy who wishes he was a woman, so whatever.

[MrCastle]

OP: Here's a pick me up

 

Why short guys rule

[mesmerized]

My current gf is 2 inches taller than I am! And when she's wearing heels, yikes! She and I have no problems. I have had reasonable success dating and I am under 5'8. I admit only one of the ladies i've dated was taller than me, but most INTELLIGENT women don't give too much concern over height of the guy.

 

Don't buy into the video. It's rubbish and mostly shows insecure and nasty girls. Notice that the vast majority, if not all, are very young? Immature and have little or no idea what a real relationship entails and it's not the height of any guy. Tall guys do their fair share of beating, neglecting, abusing, dumping...just saying.

 

I laugh because I have never had problems dating because of my height, or been dumped because of my height. Never been tormented because of it. Maybe I've been lucky... There's a simple solution anyway. Date ladies who are as tall or shorter...plenty short ladies in the world.

 

exactly! They were a bunch of young stupid teenagers, teenage men say a lot worse things about women.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Half of them couldn't spell and could barely type.

 

Don't hate me because I can't spell Woggs.

 

 

PK, I don't know if those few twitter comments are a good rep. of the general population. But I do know there is pressure on men about height. I just think that if a man acts with confidence, he might be suprised by the results. There are lots of short successful men in the media. Heck, some of the men in my own family aren't super tall and they all managed to find beautiful ladies.

 

I do remember this scene in an episode of Bunheads where two of the girls were giving this boy a hard time about his height and making all these snarky comments. Their other friend was into this kid but they were shaming him for his height. The strange thing is that one of the girls that was making fun of this guy for his height was shorter then him! I thought that was pretty messed up. I didn't like that at all.

 

But the reality is that I don't think you wil lsee as much hate from women on men's bodies as you see from men on women's.

[xxoo]

Them little bitchy girls on twitter will always find something to bitch about regarding men, short guys being just one of them.

 

Just like little bitter men (little in spirit, not necessarily size) will always find something to bitch about regarding women.

 

Less time examining the other gender and more time becoming an irresistible person (of any size) couldn't hurt!

[silicone]

Anyone for a quick read? women hate short men Free Dating, Singles and Personals

[PJKino]

Don't hate me because I can't spell Woggs.

 

 

 

 

But the reality is that I don't think you wil lsee as much hate from women on men's bodies as you see from men on women's.

 

I dont know why you always have to come back to this as if women have it harder then Men,walk in a persons shoes before you judge which is harder..try getting a date online as a man under a certain height its not easy..height is a universal attractive trait for Men

 

You seem to want men to ackowledge and study how hard it is for women and there woes and standards they have to live up to and make sure men change them to fit what you deem realistic standards yet you give the generic fluff cliche to short men to have "confidence" as the magic pill and want to leave it at that

 

 

Well then how about we say the same for women then just have "confidence" and dotn expect people to change others expectations of wha tthye look for physically

[PJKino]

Don't hate me because I can't spell Woggs.

 

 

 

 

But the reality is that I don't think you wil lsee as much hate from women on men's bodies as you see from men on women's.

 

I dont know why you always have to come back to this as if women have it harder then Men,walk in a persons shoes before you judge which is harder

 

You seem to want men to ackowledge and study how hard it is for women and there woes and standards they have to live up to yet you give the generic fluff cliche to short men to have "confidence" as the magic pill and want to leave it at that

 

 

Well then how about we say the same for women then just have "confidence" and dotn expect people to change others expectations of what they look for physically

[Disenchantedly Yours]

I dont know why you always have to come back to this as if women have it harder then Men,walk in a persons shoes before you judge which is harder

 

You seem to want men to ackowledge and study how hard it is for women and there woes and standards they have to live up to yet you give the generic fluff cliche to short men to have "confidence" as the magic pill and want to leave it at that

 

 

Well then how about we say the same for women then just have "confidence" and dotn expect people to change others expectations of what they look for physically

 

When have you ever acknowledged anything regarding issues women face PJKino?

 

I just wrote a post about acknowledging that the height issue can be a difficult one for men. I even talked about seeing it in a tv show and responding with dislike to it.

 

But I am sorry, I personally see women who are way much less concerned with looks then I see men. Why am I not allowed to think this way?

[Disenchantedly Yours]

I dont know why you are so apt on protecting women as a special group of victims.

 

I don't know why you think I am proecting women as a special group of victims just because I talk about issues women encounter. As someone that often talks about issues men encounter, you should know better.

 

 

Women are just as bad as men in every regard, and a lot of issues about their appearance they create for themselves.

 

Excellent. This enables you to ignore everything I said in the ever classic favorite, "women do it too!" With such intimately deep conversations as the classic, "women/men do it too!", we really can learn more about each other. Such as, "women/men do it too!", therefore, why talk about anything since women and men do it too!

 

There was a woman who I was friendly with used to come into a store with her teen daughter. The daughter was apparently very concerned because when she came into the store she was "looking like sh*t". The mother rightfully told her..."men don't care nearly as much as women do about that stuff".

 

I see, so it's not okay for me to say that I see more of an issue with men concerning women's looks but it's okay for you to say that men care less about looks than women. And naturally, your way of thinking is "right", right? Yeah..that's fair.

 

 

There are indeed many men in the media who are not conventionally attractive, but there are just as many women. You got your Rosie O'Donell's and Roseanne Barrs just as much as you got your Danny DeVitos and Joe Pesci's.

 

No, there are not as many unconventional women that are in the media as men. It is also well known that women have a much harder time finding work as they age then their male actor counterparts do. Further, the top earning male actor ,earns more then double what the top female actress earns. If you dig deeper you will see that disparity in women vs men is common.

 

If you really pay attention to movies, you will see how often they pair older men with younger actresses.

 

Lastly, you have to consider when Rosie became popular and if she could still become popular today. I think social expectations of even men and women in the media has changed and become more strict. I am not so sure someone like Rosie coudl become popular today even if she did 15-20(?) years ago.

[Woggle]

Women who are not model material can still do well. Adele is one of the biggest selling singers in music yet she is not what most would consider model material.

[silicone]

But I am sorry, I personally see women who are way much less concerned with looks then I see men. Why am I not allowed to think this way?

 

I'm sorry but I am seeing the absolute opposite. Even only today, I read about a girl who broke up with her ex because she couldn't respect him enough given the fact that she had 2 inches greater than him.

[soccerrprp]

Women who are not model material can still do well. Adele is one of the biggest selling singers in music yet she is not what most would consider model material.

 

Comparing Adele with other NON-celebrity, ladies is not the same. The super-stars always seem to find someone and that's mainly because of their "star" factor and celebrity. It's easy for most "common-folk" to become enamored with the fame that comes along with celebrities.

 

Such people don't have to fit the "model" type to get people. And by the way, Adele is still a lovely woman, not my type, but lovely.

[Woggle]

Comparing Adele with other NON-celebrity, ladies is not the same. The super-stars always seem to find someone and that's mainly because of their "star" factor and celebrity. It's easy for most "common-folk" to become enamored with the fame that comes along with celebrities.

 

Such people don't have to fit the "model" type to get people. And by the way, Adele is still a lovely woman, not my type, but lovely.

 

But it shows that women who are not anorexic models can be very successful in Hollywood.

[SteveC80]

Women who are not model material can still do well. Adele is one of the biggest selling singers in music yet she is not what most would consider model material.

 

The ironic part is its usually women who buy records strictly off the looks of the artists..How do you think boy bands became so big?

 

If those guys were obese or ugly they wouldnt be nearly as sucessful

[PJKino]

When have you ever acknowledged anything regarding issues women face PJKino?

 

I just wrote a post about acknowledging that the height issue can be a difficult one for men. I even talked about seeing it in a tv show and responding with dislike to it.

 

But I am sorry, I personally see women who are way much less concerned with looks then I see men. Why am I not allowed to think this way?

 

My point is you think short men should stop complaining and just have "confidence" as the magic pill so why dont women with things the opposite sex sees as a "flaw" take the same approach?

[Taramere]

Women who are not model material can still do well. Adele is one of the biggest selling singers in music yet she is not what most would consider model material.

 

Vogue disagrees

 

http://loft965.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/adele-shot-vogue-new-spread-hot-beautiful-naked.jpg

[Woggle]

The ironic part is its usually women who buy records strictly off the looks of the artists..How do you think boy bands became so big?

 

If those guys were obese or ugly they wouldnt be nearly as sucessful

 

It surely can't be because of the quality of the music. To be fair men were gaga over Britney Spears back in 99 though I was not one of them.