Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

[sweetheart5381]

I didnt read all the posts here, but height is definitely a "subject" when it comes to dating and I will give my 2 cents.

 

I will tell you without a shadow of a doubt that height matters little when it comes to true attraction for me.

 

I used to think I wanted a "tall man". Til I met a man my own height, perhaps slightly taller at 5' 7 or 8". its negligible since I am in heels at the office and he is in work boots. His height didn't make a damn bit of difference when it came to desire and being compatible.

 

In the bedroom and otherwise we are equals. We satisfy each others needs and work hard to do so, since we realize how awesome it is to have one another in our lives.

[Bumbee]

Junior high, not junior in high school. 9 inches in 4 years = slightly over 2 inches a year. Then he grew another 7 inches over the next 4 years, so that's a little under 2 inches a year.

Oh that explains it. I guess there must have a very tall and large family member. While playing sports and eating healthy might help out, so does genes.

You want to talk about growing? I went from 5'10" at 16 to 6'4" at 18. That's a larger growth spurt than Admiral's.

Yes, it is. 6 inches in 2 years is a lot. You guys have varying, magical growth spurts while it's more stabled among us girls (I was already at 5'8 in 8th grade and so only added 2 inches last year; that's it for me). Edited June 24, 2013 by Bumbee

[StanMusial]

How can that be possible?

 

God's will.

[na49]

Probably because ideally, we picture the guy being taller than the girl when we think of couples. My girlfriend and I are both the same height just about. She may even be a few centimeters taller than me. It doesn't really bother me though. Of course I'd love to be taller than her even if it was just by a few inches.

[KungFuJoe]

Would you really know, if you've been tall all of your life? Girls wouldn't necessarily be vocal about why they'd rejected other guys or chose you in particular, would they?

 

You're probably somewhat correct...but I was also pretty clueless about girls and attraction when I was in high school. I mean, I didn't even kiss a girl until AFTER I graduated.

 

I also mostly hung out with asians (being half asian myself) and everyone was always shorter than me and I always kind of felt like the "freak". All the cute asian girls always ended up with shorter, asian guys more their size.

 

You probably think this is crazy, but for a while I thought being tall was BAD for attracting women.

[Bumbee]

God's will.

I guess so.

 

So base on the facts that:

1) Doctor calculating he'll continue growing until his early 20's

2) No facial hairs while his father has

3) No manly, total deep voice yet but I love his voice; going to miss it when it changes suddenly.

4) He's not 16 yet and is a kid (while I can get confused for an 18-19 year-old girl; I'm a kid too but depending on what I'm wearing can look older)

 

Is this how a late bloomer goes through? I thought age 18 was usually when everyone (early for us) is done growing.

Edited June 24, 2013 by Bumbee

[todreaminblue]

Yes, it is society. But it's not a figment of the guy's imagination.

 

 

It's likely that she was influenced by our society and her new friends.

 

So obviously this is an issue that DOES exist and it's an external force, as opposed to an internal force, causing confidence issues in short guys.

 

I do agree that it's the size of the fight in the dog, but society as a whole does not see it that way....and this is pushed on us from a very young age.

 

its all about fitting in when you are younger.......in saying that ....thats why we have to teach younger ones it isnt the end of the world if you dont fit the mold....you can break it and have a happy life........mainstream has it uses.......to show you what not to follow blindly......and that people will eventually accept you for who you are........tall, fat, thin, short near sighted, 20 20 vision color race creed religion.........it doesnt matter.......as long as you accept you , you will find others who will too...i tried to fit in when i was younger.....the more i tried.....the least accepted i was.....and other times i thought i was accepted turned out i was merely tolerated.......so....i give up and i will live my life as non judmentally as i can and teach my kids the esame.....ripples have to start somewhere........and where i am now.....is a place where i have found others who break the mold with acceptance and understanding being key.........so happy vegemite deb.......best wishes to you and yours....deb

[thefooloftheyear]

Also, the income argument isnt nonsense. Its a well documented fact that society shows positive bias towards the taller, good looking, and more in shape people. This is why the richest men in the country are mostly tall, decent looking fellows who are in shape.

 

It may not be fair, but humans are pretty damn visual beings.

 

Would I be considered more attractive by many women if I was 6'2 instead of 5'9? Im sure I would be, but I dont dwell on it as I have plenty of sex appeal as it is.

 

 

Michael Bloomberg is one of the richest and most powerful men in the WORLD.

 

I met him in person...Im 5'7" and he is about my height and is, frankly a very unimposing man..

 

So much for that theory..

 

TFY

[HoneyBadgerDontCare]

I would have just come back with a weight comment or body proportion comment at that girl.

 

I understand preferences and all, but to publicly put down a whole group of people on facebook? Talk about no class. Im a dude who stays fit and prefers a certain body type in women, but I wont go on facebook putting down girls who dont fit my preference.

 

Shes lucky shes not in my facebook feed, cus I would have chewed her out.

 

I thought about it, but it just wasn't worth the nonsense that would have accompanied it. She's the one that will suffer in the end with these kinds of behaviors.

 

It is sexual biology bro. Girls are into guys taller than them and V shape torsos, the same way men usually enjoy smaller women with hour glass figures.

 

Its not just society. Sexual dimorphism exists for a reason. Men are the natural protectors, so it makes sense that height and weight would bring about those feelings of protection in men and women.

 

No, it is society. As I said, it was necessary biologically at one time because bigger, stronger men were necessary to further our race. In the past few hundred years, with the Age of Enlightenment and Information Age, we entered into a new time of human history, where the benefits of the mind outweigh the benefits of the body.

 

Thus, if it were evolutionary, this desire would have evolved out. But it hasn't because it is currently entirely a social construct that is constantly peddled by the media and pushed at both men and women from a very age.

 

In conclusion, it's not social biology bro. It's sociology and psychology.

[kaylan]

Its not just society though. Do you realize how long it takes to get rid of sexual programming? (even if it were possible at all)

[thefooloftheyear]

These topics absolutely kill me..

 

FORGET about the stupidity you see on OLD...Its so much nonsense..220 lb ugly sows saying they wont settle for anything less than a 6' tall guy with a ripped body and making at least 200K..Keep looking there sister.,,

 

Ive been short all my life..Im only 5'7", but I am a very imposing man at 200 lb and practically all muscle.. Im certainly more imposing than a typical 175 lb 6' tall guy with 13 inch arms. So much for the "protector" theory. Ive never really had any trouble attracting interest from the opposite sex. I know several guys shorter than me that do well, too.

 

My cousin Anthony is only 5;4"..hes married to a 5'8" raven haired knockout that os one of the most gorgeous women you will ever see..They have been together for 20 years , have 3 kids and she is nuts over him,,

 

Its nonsense,,,The ones that say height is a "dealbreaker" are limiting themselves and are shallow in many respects.. Taller guys suffer more physically as they get older...Many of the taller guys I grew up with that are my age are falling apart..Knees shot, Hips gone.bad backs,,etc,,I have none of these issues..

 

TFY

[HoneyBadgerDontCare]

Also, the income argument isnt nonsense. Its a well documented fact that society shows positive bias towards the taller, good looking, and more in shape people. This is why the richest men in the country are mostly tall, decent looking fellows who are in shape.

 

It may not be fair, but humans are pretty damn visual beings.

 

Would I be considered more attractive by many women if I was 6'2 instead of 5'9? Im sure I would be, but I dont dwell on it as I have plenty of sex appeal as it is.

 

The income argument IS nonsense. Sorry again bro. People may have a bias towards tall, good-looking people, but, make no mistake, that skills come first.

 

There are multiple examples of very rich and successful men that are not tall (and these men are widely known and some of the richest men in the world).

 

The only time that height actually matters is in dating and, possibly, if a person wants to become a CEO of a major company.

[kaylan]

Michael Bloomberg is one of the richest and most powerful men in the WORLD.

 

I met him in person...Im 5'7" and he is about my height and is, frankly a very unimposing man..

 

So much for that theory..

 

TFY

Reading comprehension is not youre forte is it? I said that MOST, not all, rich men fall under a particular umbrella. There are studies done about this very thing. Its common knowledge that most CEOs are tall men.

[HoneyBadgerDontCare]

Its not just society though. Do you realize how long it takes to get rid of sexual programming? (even if it were possible at all)

 

No. I don't know. How long does it take?

 

And please back your assumptions up with a logical explanation as to how you came to it.

[kaylan]

The income argument IS nonsense. Sorry again bro. People may have a bias towards tall, good-looking people, but, make no mistake, that skills come first.

 

There are multiple examples of very rich and successful men that are not tall (and these men are widely known and some of the richest men in the world).

 

The only time that height actually matters is in dating and, possibly, if a person wants to become a CEO of a major company.

Omg...you cannot read either huh? Im not saying that short guys cant be successful or that unattractive people cannot be either. Im saying that there are studies and facts to back up the fact that a good proportion of rich and successful people are of good height and attractive.

 

And theres information to back up the fact that people react different to people based on their looks, regardless of skills. We all know it happens. It may not happen ALL the time, and it may not get in the way of a lot of peoples success...but it doesnt change the fact that looks and height cause people to react to folks differently.

[Bumbee]

These topics absolutely kill me..

 

FORGET about the stupidity you see on OLD...Its so much nonsense..220 lb ugly sows saying they wont settle for anything less than a 6' tall guy with a ripped body and making at least 200K..Keep looking there sister.,,

 

Ive been short all my life..Im only 5'7", but I am a very imposing man at 200 lb and practically all muscle.. Im certainly more imposing than a typical 175 lb 6' tall guy with 13 inch arms. So much for the "protector" theory. Ive never really had any trouble attracting interest from the opposite sex. I know several guys shorter than me that do well, too.

 

My cousin Anthony is only 5;4"..hes married to a 5'8" raven haired knockout that os one of the most gorgeous women you will ever see..They have been together for 20 years , have 3 kids and she is nuts over him,,

 

Its nonsense,,,The ones that say height is a "dealbreaker" are limiting themselves and are shallow in many respects.. Taller guys suffer more physically as they get older...Many of the taller guys I grew up with that are my age are falling apart..Knees shot, Hips gone.bad backs,,etc,,I have none of these issues..

 

TFY

Nice story. Wish my bf was here reading that post, that way he would feel better. Hopefully if he gets his wish, he'll finally not feel awkward anymore.

 

If he does gets one of those 6+ massive growth, guess I'll have to go back to wearing my median-high heels in order to kiss him lol (that's better than tiptoeing).

[kaylan]

No. I don't know. How long does it take?

 

And please back your assumptions up with a logical explanation as to how you came to it.

Assumptions? Any educated person knows it takes thousands of years to change the genetic programming and evolve. Humans havent had technology long enough, in comparison to our existence, in order for it to change what men and women find attractive at a basic level.

 

It doesnt matter what you think personally as a short guy. Women are sexually drawn to tall men with V shaped torsos and muscular bodies. The same way men and sexually drawn to shorter women with hour glass figures and cushion in their hips and butt. Does it mean women and men will overlook people who dont fit into those descriptions? No it doesnt.

 

It just means that those are the things that are found most attractive physically, and get a rise out of the opposite sex. And no matter what you think about protectors, modern day money and status cannot override how many women are drawn to a mans physical stature at a basic level.

 

Whats so hard to understand here?

[HoneyBadgerDontCare]

Omg...you cannot read either huh? Im not saying that short guys cant be successful or that unattractive people cannot be either. Im saying that there are studies and facts to back up the fact that a good proportion of rich and successful people are of good height and attractive.

 

And theres information to back up the fact that people react different to people based on their looks, regardless of skills. We all know it happens. It may not happen ALL the time, and it may not get in the way of a lot of peoples success...but it doesnt change the fact that looks and height cause people to react to folks differently.

 

Yes, I can read. It is you that has difficulty reading.

 

You keep saying that the income argument is legitimate. I'm giving you logical reasons as to why it isn't. Don't cry about it, bro.

 

Yes, people may respond to taller people differently, but the richest and most successful people are not always tall. Many are average height or short.

 

Sorry bro, but those are the facts.

[kaylan]

Yes, I can read. It is you that has difficulty reading.

 

You keep saying that the income argument is legitimate. I'm giving you logical reasons as to why it isn't. Don't cry about it, bro.

 

Yes, people may respond to taller people differently, but the richest and most successful people are not always tall. Many are average height or short.

 

Sorry bro, but those are the facts.

Go back and read my posts kid. I never said they were always tall. I said the majority of them were. Nothing is absolute. However, theres more than enough information out there to back up the fact that the populations height demographic is not equally distributed among the rich. And theres a reason for that....and its not that being tall makes them any more capable at what they do.

[thefooloftheyear]

Reading comprehension is not youre forte is it? I said that MOST, not all, rich men fall under a particular umbrella. There are studies done about this very thing. Its common knowledge that most CEOs are tall men.

 

My reading comprehension is fine..Skippy...You need to broaden your scope of logic..Just like on the prostitution thread..You dismiss OBVIOUS examples that thwart your postulations and rather than recognize it you simply dismiss it.

 

I was just pointing out that how can such an unimposing, "little" man, who is self made, not only rise to be one of the wealthiest men on the planet, but run NYC, which is believed to be a more challenging job than the Presidfent of the USA...I guess he didnt get the memo...

 

Ive also personally met another very powerful man that was neither tall nor imposing..None other than John Gotti, Sr.. He certainly had "it" though as did Bloomberg...

 

And that is the whole point..Height doesnt mean jack shyt if thats all you got. And most women would likely agree..

 

TFY

[kaylan]

Ok, but that still doesnt disprove my point that most powerful men are tall. I never said short men couldnt become powerful...so what are you arguing here?

 

Im saying that the proportion of powerful men who are tall, is not equal to the proportion of tall men in the general population. Looks bias has much to do with this. There have been studies that show how men and women react differently to men and women of different physical heights and attractiveness.

 

This can create biases and sway the way things work in life. Its not absolute, but it happens a lot.

[kaylan]

Another thing,

 

Who said height is the only thing that matters? Of course it cant be the only thing someone has. And quite funny that you go the typical short guy route and make that comment. The point being is that all things being equal, most women would take the 6'2 guy over the 5'9 guy.

 

Does that bother me? No...because people arent identical and do not ever end up in "all things being equal" situations with someone else. And im sure a lot of guys would change physical properties of their mates if everything else about her stayed the same.

[thefooloftheyear]

Go back and read my posts kid. I never said they were always tall. I said the majority of them were. Nothing is absolute. However, theres more than enough information out there to back up the fact that the populations height demographic is not equally distributed among the rich. And theres a reason for that....and its not that being tall makes them any more capable at what they do.

 

 

OK and here is another thing to chew on....

 

WOMEN...yes, those little, helpless creatures are actually becoming powerhouses in corporate America. They make more money then ever and weild more power over men then ever before..And in the ensuing years will probably blow men out of the water.

 

I guess they didnt get the memo either...Or maybe they are all Watusi tribeswomen..

 

TFY

[ThaWholigan]

Ok, but that still doesnt disprove my point that most powerful men are tall. I never said short men couldnt become powerful...so what are you arguing here?

 

Im saying that the proportion of powerful men who are tall, is not equal to the proportion of tall men in the general population. Looks bias has much to do with this. There have been studies that show how men and women react differently to men and women of different physical heights and attractiveness.

 

This can create biases and sway the way things work in life. Its not absolute, but it happens a lot.

He's arguing that it's not biologically/genetically programmed that women are attracted to tall guys - almost that women are socially engineered to be attracted to tall guys.

[kaylan]

OK and here is another thing to chew on....

 

WOMEN...yes, those little, helpless creatures are actually becoming powerhouses in corporate America. They make more money then ever and weild more power over men then ever before..And in the ensuing years will probably blow men out of the water.

 

I guess they didnt get the memo either...Or maybe they are all Watusi tribeswomen..

 

TFY

Ok... your point?

 

Im all for that, but it doesnt change the fact that men still run the show and will for a long time. And it doesnt change the fact that those powerful gals still enjoy men who look powerful (tall and sexy) and are powerful (status)

 

It is what it is.

He's arguing that it's not biologically/genetically programmed that women are attracted to tall guys - almost that women are socially engineered to be attracted to tall guys.

And what hes arguing is patently false. There is more than enough research of people of the past and present (across many different countries) to show that women are sexually drawn to men taller than themselves.

 

Id love to see this guy arguing the same thing the next time a female weight thread comes up. Doubt I will see him their since he has no personal stake in that matter.

Edited June 24, 2013 by kaylan