Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

[Badsingularity]

Do you think confidence and attitude was what attracted 100+ men to a woman with a big booty walking down a street for 10 hours?

 

Men and women are different.

[thefooloftheyear]

That's almost blind confidence.

 

Something more along the median would be "Being short is a disadvantage sure, but I make do."

 

And then the extreme would be like "All guys under 5'8.5" need to be model handsome or rich to get laid." Which I have seen said.

 

I mean, I don't really see what's so weird and unattractive about the median.

 

 

Look....I know you guys are probably thinking im trying to crash the pity party...But what do you want? me to lie??

 

Ive never been turned down for anything because of my height...I built and sold businesses, hold several patents, am talented in many arenas that have absolutely nothing to do with women..I have done a lot of things...I cant tell if a woman turned me down because of my height, because I generally dont hit on women...And if they did, who gives a shyt.?....bring on the next one..

 

I dont know how you think thats blind confidence...Blind confidence is me saying I can get J-Lo by picking up the phone...But to me, all I am saying is that my height never affected anything in my life..Just didnt...

 

Do I have some problems? Sure!....I got 99 problems....but my height aint one!

 

TFY

[somedude81]

thefooloftheyear has stated that he has never had to work to get a girl and that they just come to him.

 

Some guys are just lucky.

[xxoo]

thefooloftheyear has stated that he has never had to work to get a girl and that they just come to him.

 

Some guys are just lucky.

 

TFY has worked extremely hard in his life to achieve his personal goals, not with the end goal of getting women.

 

But the end result is the same: women are attracted to a man who works hard and makes something of himself.

 

Not luck!

[somedude81]

TFY has worked extremely hard in his life to achieve his personal goals, not with the end goal of getting women.

 

But the end result is the same: women are attracted to a man who works hard and makes something of himself.

 

Not luck!

 

From what he's said, he's started getting woman at a very early age, long before he worked hard to achieve his goals. That is luck.

[thefooloftheyear]

From what he's said, he's started getting woman at a very early age, long before he worked hard to achieve his goals. That is luck.

 

yeah...I did pretty well in HS, but it probably had more to do with the fact that I was one of the better athletes in the school and was an honor student...That was a lot of work as well-especially the scholastic part.....And believe me, at that time id rather a 10 second pin of my opponent at a major wrestling meet than to fumble with some teenage girls bra....

 

TFY

[Cristo]

yeah...I did pretty well in HS, but it probably had more to do with the fact that I was one of the better athletes in the school and was an honor student...That was a lot of work as well-especially the scholastic part.....And believe me, at that time id rather a 10 second pin of my opponent at a major wrestling meet than to fumble with some teenage girls bra....

 

TFY

 

I was also an honors student, also played sports, was popular in college, have a good job, have lots of dating experience, etc.

 

All well and good, but it doesn't mean that being short isn't a significant disadvantage, more so than the vast majority of other qualities.

[JuneJulySeptember]

From what he's said, he's started getting woman at a very early age, long before he worked hard to achieve his goals. That is luck.

 

Sometimes I read all of the 'mystical grasshopper, talking in circles' stuff here and I just shake my head.

 

The game is simple. The more effort you put into getting women, the more successful you will be.

 

I had a 4.0 in my major in college. My graduate school GPA was only slightly worse. How many women did that get me? Zero.

 

I was locked in the library so often thinking it would lead to a great career. Plus, a guy who is working all the time is not only not meeting women, he is not too fun. That time could have been spent talking to women, getting rejected, but finding one that would give me a chance, getting that chance and having some fun going on trips and stuff.

 

That sounds like a pretty reasonable capsule of the way life works.

Edited November 1, 2014 by JuneJulySeptember

[somedude81]

yeah...I did pretty well in HS, but it probably had more to do with the fact that I was one of the better athletes in the school and was an honor student...That was a lot of work as well-especially the scholastic part.....And believe me, at that time id rather a 10 second pin of my opponent at a major wrestling meet than to fumble with some teenage girls bra....

 

TFY

 

You being an athlete in school was probably the catalyst since young girls tend to be attracted to those types.

 

I think you've also mentioned that you had a pretty decent body, that would also attract girls.

[Badsingularity]

 

I think you've also mentioned that you had a pretty decent body, that would also attract girls.

 

I had a pretty decent build in highschool. I actually worked out with the football team even though i wasn't on it.

 

It didn't help me with girls at all. I remained gf less and a virgin into my mid twenties.

 

Now I look like jaba the hut and still attract women.

 

It must be something else.

[JuneJulySeptember]

 

Now I look like jaba the hut and still attract women.

 

It must be something else.

 

Must be because you exude confidence and have achieved success in your life goals.

[Badsingularity]

Must be because you exude confidence and have achieved success in your life goals.

 

Mostly the first one although there are goals that I have set and acheived.

[Cristo]

Sometimes I read all of the 'mystical grasshopper, talking in circles' stuff here and I just shake my head.

 

The game is simple. The more effort you put into getting women, the more successful you will be.

 

I had a 4.0 in my major in college. My graduate school GPA was only slightly worse. How many women did that get me? Zero.

 

I was locked in the library so often thinking it would lead to a great career. Plus, a guy who is working all the time is not only not meeting women, he is not too fun. That time could have been spent talking to women, getting rejected, but finding one that would give me a chance, getting that chance and having some fun going on trips and stuff.

 

That sounds like a pretty reasonable capsule of the way life works.

 

You have to balance it out. I had a 3.5 in college and had a major that led to a relatively well-paying, stable career.

 

I think I was capable of a 4.0, but I put the rest of that time into partying, bartending, club promoting, etc. I put a lot of work into that and got a lot of girls.

 

Of course, if I was tall, I wouldn't have had to make such efforts, but it is what it is. We have to "compensate".

[Cristo]

Both things just about anyone can get for themselves. Short guys included. This is why I say people use short as an excuse. It's much easier to blame your failures on something you have no control over. It takes a lot more gumption to accept responsibility for your own life and make the best of what you have.

 

I made the mistake of joining the military and I live in a fairly isolated area with a poor choice of women.

 

I take responsibility for that.

 

However, I can take responsibility for mistakes that I've made AND blame genetics at the same time. After all, if I made this mistake, but was taller, I would have more options and would have to make less of an effort.

[JuneJulySeptember]

Both things just about anyone can get for themselves. Short guys included. This is why I say people use short as an excuse. It's much easier to blame your failures on something you have no control over. It takes a lot more gumption to accept responsibility for your own life and make the best of what you have.

 

True, you should not make it the only excuse.

 

But at the same time, sometimes this place is so unhelpful. It pains me.

 

Posters here are like, "I'm short, I'm ugly, and I've never hit on women in my life, and they FLOCK to me. So if you don't have that going on no matter what you look like, you're a loser."

 

It's so not like that. Women want looks, women want men who are not total non-ambitious losers, and women want guys who are fun. What women will accept as far as levels of all those things varies.

 

You don't want to sit and whine all day. But at the same time, you don't want to be too hard on yourself.

[JuneJulySeptember]

You have to balance it out. I had a 3.5 in college and had a major that led to a relatively well-paying, stable career.

 

I think I was capable of a 4.0, but I put the rest of that time into partying, bartending, club promoting, etc. I put a lot of work into that and got a lot of girls.

 

Of course, if I was tall, I wouldn't have had to make such efforts, but it is what it is. We have to "compensate".

 

That was kind of my point. If you are a workaholic or just sit back and do your thing, women won't just come to you. You have to still go after it.

 

I mean, women give the advice to do your thing and let it happen because it works for them.

 

I mean, let's be honest, that doesn't even work for all women. A lot of women have to go on online dating later on in life and pretty aggressively seek out guys.

[Cristo]

True, you should not make it the only excuse.

 

But at the same time, sometimes this place is so unhelpful. It pains me.

 

Posters here are like, "I'm short, I'm ugly, and I've never hit on women in my life, and they FLOCK to me. So if you don't have that going on no matter what you look like, you're a loser."

 

It's so not like that. Women want looks, women want men who are not total non-ambitious losers, and women want guys who are fun. What women will accept as far as levels of all those things varies.

 

You don't want to sit and whine all day. But at the same time, you don't want to be too hard on yourself.

 

Yeah, it's not like I'm saying that short men can't attract or do well with women. I'm just saying that it's much more difficult for us.

 

My tall friend, for example, just texted me and told me that he's out with a really pretty girl that basically threw herself at him. This happens to him weekly. I may have a few girls do this every year, but, for the most part, I have to do all of the work.

 

As I said, short men definitely can do well with women, but saying that they do just as well or better than tall men is delusional.

 

That was kind of my point. If you are a workaholic or just sit back and do your thing, women won't just come to you. You have to still go after it.

 

I mean, women give the advice to do your thing and let it happen because it works for them.

 

I mean, let's be honest, that doesn't even work for all women. A lot of women have to go on online dating later on in life and pretty aggressively seek out guys.

 

Exactly. Even more so if you are a short men. You will have to put a lot of effort into your dating life because women won't just throw themselves at you, for the most part.

[NJ123]

Why do a lot women hold something against you for something out of your control? If for instance your 5'6" & have a great personality, good career, good looking, etc a huge percentage of women still wouldn't give that guy a chance due to something out of his control. I'd like to hear completely honest opinions on this from women on here.

[WomenWubber]

I'm a man and am curious as well.

 

I'm guessing they just can't help it. Just like we can't help our height. That's how we are wired.

[NJ123]

I'm a man and am curious as well.

 

I'm guessing they just can't help it. Just like we can't help our height. That's how we are wired.

 

Yeah, I know. I'm just curious because I constantly hear women say they want someone tall. And even if some of those women would give the short guy a date, their personal preference would still be a taller guy. I'm expecting some responses to be something like "a taller guy makes women feel more secure & safe".

[OwMyEyeball]

Look, it's really simple. Women have a Persecution Complex through which they victimize most men for having specific traits they hold no preference for. They use indifference towards that trait as a form of punishment whereas we all know the fair treatment would be to worship each and every trait each man has. Anything less would be unfair. Unjust, even.

 

It was hard enough accepting this wretched life after discovering that my parents, the people with whom I had entrusted my care, had lied about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and a stable economy. But to then discover this Persecution Complex was almost too much.

 

I've since learned the best course of action is to clutch on tightly to an enduring sense of entitlement, and stoke a bitterness towards all those who threaten it while on the surface continuing about performing kind gestures for those who persecute me. Because one day when they notice how amazing I am and feel such terrible shame for their ignorance they'll come to love and accept me.

[BlueIris]

Sometimes it's just sexual attraction to a certain body type, like some men find certain women's body types appealing and others not as appealing.

[CarrieT]

Why do a lot women hold something against you for something out of your control?

The same reason why a lot of men are so shallow about a woman's breast size or hair color and hold something against them that is out of their control.

 

It is what it is and not every person is so biased against height or breast size or those things.

[NJ123]

Look, it's really simple. Women have a Persecution Complex through which they victimize most men for having specific traits they hold no preference for. They use indifference towards that trait as a form of punishment whereas we all know the fair treatment would be to worship each and every trait each man has. Anything less would be unfair. Unjust, even.

 

It was hard enough accepting this wretched life after discovering that my parents, the people with whom I had entrusted my care, had lied about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and a stable economy. But to then discover this Persecution Complex was almost too much.

 

I've since learned the best course of action is to clutch on tightly to an enduring sense of entitlement, and stoke a bitterness towards all those who threaten it while on the surface continuing about performing kind gestures for those who persecute me. Because one day when they notice how amazing I am and feel such terrible shame for their ignorance they'll come to love and accept me.

 

But it's probably the most shallow thing to base someone on due to having absolutely no control over it. It's not something you can change. You can't just wake up one day & say I'm going to change my height & become 6 foot 2 today when I was 5 foot 7 yesterday.

[evanescentworld]

what are women so shallow about men's heights?

because if the shallow end is all they can manage, then height might be an important factor.

 

I'm under 5'0, and frankly, I think we'd both look ludicrous if I were dating someone shorter than I.