Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

[NJ123]

I'm 5' 3" by the afternoon evening (it's a thing. Trust me I know I'm taller in the morning).

So, pretty much everyone is 'tall' to me; 6' 4" is ginormous, 6' 2" is tall, 5'10" is tall 5' 7" is still tall to me. Because of my adorable shortness, short/tall doesn't register as much as others maybe?

I have never minded too much be shorter than other girls/women. I have always gotten quite a bit of attention for being short cute and feisty.

 

Bottom line (I think*), BIG things come in little packages.

Seriously. Look what happens when you split an Atom

 

The thing is there's still a lot of women your height that still prefer guys that are 5'9" & above for whatever reason. A lot of women view short guys as "weak" it seems & won't be good "protectors". I know obviously there's a lot of women that don't care about height but it seems more often do than don't.

[NJ123]

Hey, first you moan because women won't date short guys. Then over and over again, when one says she did and does but that some were jerks, you gripe because they contradict your theory that short guys are nicer guys. Like you'd know that. How many short guys have you dated? Like you, a lot of short guys and other guys who have trouble getting laid get an extra chip on their shoulder. It's a fact. No one said "all." I said I knew some nice ones and one real jerk who I wasn't dating but just doing business with. But you only latch onto the negative and ignore the fact that the women who'd know whether they're jerks or not are the ones who were open to dating them. You can't have it both ways.

 

But why only the negativity towards short guys? It seems some of you have no problem mentioning the short guys being jerks but won't say it about the tall guys until your called out on it. It's being biased.

[preraph]

I tell you one thing. If I'd read this thread back when I was young and dating, I'd eliminate dating short guys just based on the aggressive hatred aimed at women here just because they can't reach out and take the hot one they most want and the attitude that it's okay for them to be shallow but that women should just acquiesce to sex. The entitlement is astounding that you are entitled to get whatever woman you desire. You're frustrated and bitter because you can't get everything you want. Well, join the human race. Women don't get everything they want either, as you can see from nearly every thread on this board, but they are, at least at this moment in the 21st century in the US and civilized countries, still free to only have sex with who they are attracted to that also likes them back. So moan and pound the table all you want with your irrational arguments, but that's the way it is. Deal with it.

[Phoe]

If 5'11 is average, then I've been with nothing but "short" men.

 

5'6-5'10

[PJKino]

I tell you one thing. If I'd read this thread back when I was young and dating, I'd eliminate dating short guys just based on the aggressive hatred aimed at women here just because they can't reach out and take the hot one they most want and the attitude that it's okay for them to be shallow but that women should just acquiesce to sex. The entitlement is astounding that you are entitled to get whatever woman you desire. You're frustrated and bitter because you can't get everything you want. Well, join the human race. Women don't get everything they want either, as you can see from nearly every thread on this board, but they are, at least at this moment in the 21st century in the US and civilized countries, still free to only have sex with who they are attracted to that also likes them back. So moan and pound the table all you want with your irrational arguments, but that's the way it is. Deal with it.

 

You're trying to change the subject...You clearly made it a point to point out that not only are all short guys not nice but that most are jerks..

 

Your ranting doesn't change that fact..Could you imagine in you're comments if you replace short guy with a race or ethnic group how bad it would look?

 

It was an ignorant comment stop trying to now spin it into short guys entitlement lol

[preraph]

But why only the negativity towards short guys? It seems some of you have no problem mentioning the short guys being jerks but won't say it about the tall guys until your called out on it. It's being biased.

 

Have you never read all the general threads on this board citing problems with guys of literally every shape, size, and age? This thread is ABOUT short guys, so that's why you're getting comments on it. Sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear, which goes like this:

 

Oh, yes, NJ, now that you mention it, you're right. I've been a blind stupid woman because until you brought it up, I never realized that all short guys are better and nicer than all other guys, but now you've brought it up, I'm just going to only bed short guys from now on because clearly, they are superior.

 

Dream on. You need to deal with reality. You're the one who chooses to ignore two -thirds of what someone writes, as was thoroughly demonstrated by what you got out of my earlier post that Evanescent World so eloquently pointed out. You're the one who's got a chip on his shoulder. These women, they are attracted to who they're attracted to, and you will never have any control over that AND NEITHER DO THEY. I'm surprised you seem to have the most ire for the ones who actually don't discriminate just because they, through actual experience, point out that short guys can be jerks just like any other guys. But I get it because you'd like to sell us a bill of goods that short guys are superior, nice, etc. so you can get laid by whoever you want, but if you can't convince us they are because we know better, that little plan goes to hell, doesn't it? We who have dated them know they're not superior or nicer. And we're not shallow or we wouldn't have dated them. So your whole agenda dissolves.

[xxoo]

You're trying to change the subject...You clearly made it a point to point out that not only are all short guys not nice but that most are jerks..

 

I thought she repeatedly mentioned the short guys that were really attractive and great with women because they didn't have the poor attitude problem.

[preraph]

You're trying to change the subject...You clearly made it a point to point out that not only are all short guys not nice but that most are jerks..

 

Your ranting doesn't change that fact..Could you imagine in you're comments if you replace short guy with a race or ethnic group how bad it would look?

 

It was an ignorant comment stop trying to now spin it into short guys entitlement lol

 

How are you completely ignoring my posts about dating and liking quite a few short guys?? Don't answer that. I don't want to know.

[NJ123]

I tell you one thing. If I'd read this thread back when I was young and dating, I'd eliminate dating short guys just based on the aggressive hatred aimed at women here just because they can't reach out and take the hot one they most want and the attitude that it's okay for them to be shallow but that women should just acquiesce to sex. The entitlement is astounding that you are entitled to get whatever woman you desire. You're frustrated and bitter because you can't get everything you want. Well, join the human race. Women don't get everything they want either, as you can see from nearly every thread on this board, but they are, at least at this moment in the 21st century in the US and civilized countries, still free to only have sex with who they are attracted to that also likes them back. So moan and pound the table all you want with your irrational arguments, but that's the way it is. Deal with it.

 

Okay, first of all don't put words in my mouth. Never did I say I was entitled to anything. I only made the thread the other day to see why a lot of women are shallow towards the height issue. But than it turned into a huge rant about unrelated topics & arguments. And I'm the bad guy now? Sure, whatever you say. And than some of you keep calling all the short guys you dated jerks but happen to leave out that some of the tall guys were *******s too. Yeah, that's not being biased much?

[preraph]

I thought she repeatedly mentioned the short guys that were really attractive and great with women because they didn't have the poor attitude problem.

 

Yes, but for clarification, the ones who were great didn't use their shortness as an excuse. They had good attitude, like you said. I don't know why some of these guys here who are attacking women for being shallow like they are think that having that negative and hateful attitude toward women is ever going to get them a woman. That is the best illustration of the ones with the chip on their shoulders. They're madder at me for actually dating short guys and saying they're not superior than they are at the ones who won't date them!

[preraph]

Okay, first of all don't put words in my mouth. Never did I say I was entitled to anything. I only made the thread the other day to see why a lot of women are shallow towards the height issue. But than it turned into a huge rant about unrelated topics & arguments. And I'm the bad guy now? Sure, whatever you say. And than some of you keep calling all the short guys you dated jerks but happen to leave out that some of the tall guys were *******s too. Yeah, that's not being biased much?

 

What do you mean, no one has pointed out unshort guys can be jerks? Have you not read any other thread on Loveshack except this one???? You're manufacturing madness, my friend.

[PJKino]

How are you completely ignoring my posts about dating and liking quite a few short guys?? Don't answer that. I don't want to know.

 

What was the point of pointing out the horrible attitude short guys have? And you also said you no longer date short men so what other conclusion am I supposed to make?

[AnnieRose]

Still with this! Read my reply hundreds of pages ago! Most women don't care guys! My boyfriend is short (shorter than me by a lot) and I feel if I showed him this site he would just laugh.

 

Have you guys not seen any shorter men with women?

 

Get off the internet!

[preraph]

What was the point of pointing out the horrible attitude short guys have? And you also said you no longer date short men so what other conclusion am I supposed to make?

 

Why are you completely ignoring the places were I said I'd dated a few really great good attitude short guys and said what made them great was that they didn't use their shortness as an excuse to fail? Why are you only latching onto the one I said I worked with that was a jerk and my comment that being short doesn't make them nice? Why are you twisting everything I say? Earlier I am pretty sure you ascribed a comment to me that belonged to another poster.

 

And I'm not longer dating, period, but if I was young and dating, this thread alone would be enough to make me not date short guys because it's just a nasty cocktail of bitterness and entitlement.

[xxoo]

I don't know if it's my area or what (I do live in a kinda cool area), but I see hottie dads who lack height out with their kids every day. The families around here tend to be educated, fit, and active. Tall is not required to join the club, but a decent job is.

 

If I were looking at these guys as successful examples (and I do), I'd suggest the following:

 

Get a good education and a good job.

Be fit and active.

Get out of the house and be social and active in the community.

 

Do that, and it'll be like height isn't even an issue. Because it isn't.

[NJ123]

What do you mean, no one has pointed out unshort guys can be jerks? Have you not read any other thread on Loveshack except this one???? You're manufacturing madness, my friend.

 

But a few of you clearly worked around calling the tall guys jerks until later posts like you didn't want to say it. But you have no problem right away stating the short guys were. Why are you trying to deny this now? Your one post alone had like 5 things that were being negative towards short men. It wasn't until after all the negative reaction towards that post did you make a more positive one.

[AnnieRose]

I don't know if it's my area or what (I do live in a kinda cool area), but I see hottie dads who lack height out with their kids every day. The families around here tend to be educated, fit, and active. Tall is not required to join the club, but a decent job is.

 

If I were looking at these guys as successful examples (and I do), I'd suggest the following:

 

Get a good education and a good job.

Be fit and active.

Get out of the house and be social and active in the community.

 

Do that, and it'll be like height isn't even an issue. Because it isn't.

 

That sounds like stuff all men should be doing!

[xxoo]

That sounds like stuff all men should be doing!

 

Right!

 

I think the short guys with the attitude problem assume that tall guys don't have to do that stuff. Yes, there will always be a few lucky bastards who get something for nothing. But that's not the case for 98%, and only 5% waste their life on the unfairness.

[preraph]

But a few of you clearly worked around calling the tall guys jerks until later posts like you didn't want to say it. But you have no problem right away stating the short guys were. Why are you trying to deny this now? Your one post alone had like 5 things that were being negative towards short men. It wasn't until after all the negative reaction towards that post did you make a more positive one.

 

Because YOU'RE the one who started off trying to say short guys are nicer! A false statement. Were you hoping to get only agreement? It's not true.

[PJKino]

I don't know if it's my area or what (I do live in a kinda cool area), but I see hottie dads who lack height out with their kids every day. The families around here tend to be educated, fit, and active. Tall is not required to join the club, but a decent job is.

 

If I were looking at these guys as successful examples (and I do), I'd suggest the following:

 

Get a good education and a good job.

Be fit and active.

Get out of the house and be social and active in the community.

 

Do that, and it'll be like height isn't even an issue. Because it isn't.

 

So tall men just need to exist to attract women? Lol

 

And if women will only go with short men if they make really good money it proves my point how shallow women truly are

[Imported]

If 5'11 is average, then I've been with nothing but "short" men.

 

5'6-5'10

 

 

5'11" isn't average. It's perfect!

 

Not too tall. Not too short.

 

All these guys worried about height, they should worry about proportions too. I mean, seriously, did you guys even think about that before you were born??

 

I've seen guys taller than me, but they had super long legs, super long arms that didn't really fit their torso and like a giraffe neck. And I have this friend that has, well.....T-Rex arms. He goes to shift gears on his car and he has to lean his whole body towards the shifter in order to reach. I am always like :lmao: trying to hold back.

 

A 5'6" guy is going to be 5'6", but depending on proportions and muscles, he will look "tall" or stocky.

[NJ123]

Because YOU'RE the one who started off trying to say short guys are nicer! A false statement. Were you hoping to get only agreement? It's not true.

 

What the ****? Please show me where I said short guys are nicer? I never said that. I was calling some of you out for specifically stating the short guys were jerks, but never nothing bad about tall ones until later posts. I never said short guys are nicer. What a way to try to make yourself less guilty about what you stated in previous posts.

[AnnieRose]

Right!

 

I think the short guys with the attitude problem assume that tall guys don't have to do that stuff. Yes, there will always be a few lucky bastards who get something for nothing. But that's not the case for 98%, and only 5% waste their life on the unfairness.

 

It's the same for everybody! Men and women! People that are more attractive will have more dating options automatically but they can also lose some of those opportunities by being an ass.

 

And height is just one thing of many! What good is height if the guy is ugly on the inside or out!

[AnnieRose]

So tall men just need to exist to attract women? Lol

 

And if women will only go with short men if they make really good money it proves my point how shallow women truly are

 

She said tall is not required to join the club but other traits are! Which is what most women here seem to be saying. Height alone doesn't do anything if the guy is a mess in other ways!

 

No girl says I don't care if he's unemployed, rude, lazy, and sleazy, so long as he is above 5'11!

 

If there are girls like that well...they can keep those men!

[PJKino]

I don't know if it's my area or what (I do live in a kinda cool area), but I see hottie dads who lack height out with their kids every day. The families around here tend to be educated, fit, and active. Tall is not required to join the club, but a decent job is.

 

If I were looking at these guys as successful examples (and I do), I'd suggest the following:

 

Get a good education and a good job.

Be fit and active.

Get out of the house and be social and active in the community.

 

Do that, and it'll be like height isn't even an issue. Because it isn't.

 

You also always claim it's not about looks for women as much as men but then list a ton of physical things men should have you contradict yourself.

 

Add in the financial situation men must have and it's clear how shallow women are overall and that men have to bring more to the table to attract women then vice versa.