Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

[Allumere]

Yep you were rejected because of your height. Women hate short men...you shouldn't even bother trying.

 

I am telling you right now, if you don't get over that mindset you won't ever meet someone. Look I have been rejected/turned down/overlooked for more reasons then that and as much as some of them hurt (and I call BS on) the reality is folks have deal breakers just as they have things that are turn-ons and turn-offs regarding attraction.

 

Most jockeys I know are married....short men with jobs that could kill them everyday..and most don't make much money. I think you'll be OK. Be and do you!

[R3d]

Yes, again couples tend to match up in terms of physical attractiveness and there are plenty of studies to support it. If looks didn't matter, this would not occur.

 

I'd say "desirability based on superficial factors" is more the term. If you check out my post for where I explain how you calculate looks and desirability based on superficial factors, you see that the latter also factors in your paycheck, and that can really get you much higher quality women.

 

As for me, I am currently a 1.5-2/10 for both, which implies I only have a chance with girls who are 2/10 at best, and you wonder why I am pissed...

[thefooloftheyear]

Okay, I understand that short men can get (hot) women, but this is just stretching it way too far - saying that 2 women who explicitly stated the reason for his rejection (height) are lying, when it's very well known that most women find short men physically unattractive.

 

That's implying that being short will not be a deal-breaker to not even a single woman in the world. Sorry bud, this is the real world. You can wish all you want that this was true.

 

Again, I am not saying short men can't get (hot) women. Look up Cupid Shmupid. He claims he's 5'2.125.

 

But there will be women who will reject you for that sole reason and it's safe to say that those two women did reject somedude81 for his height if they even went as far as to explicitly say so.

 

I also wanted to note that they say, "If she rejects you for your height, she's a terrible person." Not true. That's like calling me a terrible person for not wanting to date an obese woman. She can't help it! And neither can I! It doesn't make you a "terrible person". We're all shallow to some degree.

 

I dont care what you say....You are wrong...

 

Ive said it a hundred times and I dont know why I keep coming back...

 

Quality short guys get just as many women as quality taller guys...

 

Period and end of story...

 

Here is something for you...

 

Recently at a family function, me, my brother and my cousin(5'6"/5'7"/5'4" respectively) were having a discussion of the quality of girls the younger generation of cousins have ...All are taller than us and some of 6' tall...All are pretty handsome young guys..

 

NONE did as well as we did/do....NONE of them...

 

What does that tell you?

 

 

Women can and do lie about this stuff...They tell guys stupid lies so they dont have to humiliate them by calling them ugly or a loser(not saying that was the case with SD). Happens all the time...

 

TFY

[Weezy1973]

I'd say "desirability based on superficial factors" is more the term. If you check out my post for where I explain how you calculate looks and desirability based on superficial factors, you see that the latter also factors in your paycheck, and that can really get you much higher quality women.

 

As for me, I am currently a 1.5-2/10 for both, which implies I only have a chance with girls who are 2/10 at best, and you wonder why I am pissed...

 

I actually don't understand why you're pissed. If you're a 2, date a 2. Again that's what the vast majority of couples do.

[R3d]

If you're a 2, date a 2.

 

Which implies that the only available women for me are ones that I find physically unattractive.

You're still wondering why I am pissed?

 

Physical attraction is a necessity in a romantic relationship.

 

Like I said before, I am not feeling entitled to getting some model girl, but I do need to be at least somewhat physically attracted to her to the point where I can see myself making out with her...

[todreaminblue]

Which implies that the only available women for me are ones that I find physically unattractive.

 

You're still wondering why I am pissed?

 

Physical attraction is a necessity in a romantic relationship.

 

 

 

never rate a date and get caught up in a perception that is often untrue....rate all your dates a ten as they may do that for you

 

dont be pissed.....i am a one....in the worlds view but i only date tens because i have the capacity to be a ten for them and i have confidence in that...in fact...i know it to be true.....deb

[R3d]

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[Weezy1973]

Which implies that the only available women for me are ones that I find physically unattractive.

You're still wondering why I am pissed?

 

Physical attraction is a necessity in a romantic relationship.

 

Like I said before, I am not feeling entitled to getting some model girl, but I do need to be at least somewhat physically attracted to her to the point where I can see myself making out with her...

 

The issue then has nothing to do with the preferences of women, but everything to do with your lack of attraction to women at your level. And that's on you.

 

If you watch porn, I'd stop. In fact I'd stop consuming as much visual media as possible as seeing extremely attractive women over and over again can alter our standards considerably. Go out and actually meet women and get to know them. You'll find that other qualities besides looks can indeed augment or diminish your attraction towards them.

[todreaminblue]

Sorry Deb! I meant to reply to SD.

 

I deny that SD would be more attractive to women if he was taller. He's thinking like a man. Women are more attracted to personality..looks are secondary. Not to say that physical attraction is not important, but if a guy has a fantastic, shining, wonderful, outgoing, fun, intelligent personality, 90% of the time he can overcome most physical flaws. MOST..not all..sorry, but it's true.

 

 

 

do you find ti curious men are so insistent enough to deny us what we think and feel when we offer advice.....to another male on how a woman thinks.....boggling......mind ticking....lol......stuff them just agree then they might argue that we were right all along on what we are attracted to instead of trying to ram it home with a ten foot pole up our cloacas, we dont have a clue....coudl eb true i guess....;0)..yeah they are so right...lets hold hands and meekly walk behind spikpping happily to be allowed to hum

 

 

by the way i am assuming you are female with the tone of your posts because you were quick to apologise for a non answer.......if not female.......stuff you not holding hands and skipping with you or humming.....;0) walk ahead of me ill get distracted by myself by a broken street lamp with a pretty huntsman spider that is just aching to be held.......lol ...kidding i know you be female ummm yes sure of it..do you like huntsmans?..deb

[R3d]

And how do I tell which women are "on my level"?

 

If you're telling me to go for ones that I would rate physically a "2", then sorry but I need to be physically attracted to the girl I am dating.

[todreaminblue]

And how do I tell which women are "on my level"?

 

If you're telling me to go for ones that I would rate physically a "2", then sorry but I need to be physically attracted to the girl I am dating.

 

 

 

then with intelligence i would say that you should go out with women you are attracted to regardless of how many times you get rejected.....deb

[KaliLove]

No, silly...

 

Its a figure of speech...

 

But really, now...There are MILLIONS of nice and sweet guys with great personalities that cant get laid in a whorehouse on Dollar Night...

 

 

Just sayin'

 

TFY

 

I know it was a figure of speech..I was joking. Silly.

 

Of course there are nice sweet guys who can't get laid. But it's not because they're short. It's way more likely that it's a personality issue than a looks issue. Sweet isn't everything.

 

I just think it's self-defeatist for the guys who complain about their height to blame their lack of success with women solely on their height when it's way more likely that it's a personality issue.

[Glinda.Good]

Considering I've had at least two girls that I liked tell me I was too short for them, I'm going to disagree with you.

 

People will say whatever seems like the best answer when they are trying to deflect unwanted attention. I would take that with a grain of salt.

 

It would serve you VERY well to let go of this notion.

[KaliLove]

Which implies that the only available women for me are ones that I find physically unattractive.

You're still wondering why I am pissed?

 

Physical attraction is a necessity in a romantic relationship.

 

Like I said before, I am not feeling entitled to getting some model girl, but I do need to be at least somewhat physically attracted to her to the point where I can see myself making out with her...

 

You're not entitled to another person, no matter what you look like. You have to earn love.

[MidwestUSA]

Youre wrong....

 

My personality sucks and I have been beating women away my whole life...

 

TFY

 

 

 

I would have never guessed your personality sucks from the way you post here!

[Glinda.Good]

Any man who wants to sit on the Internet bemoaning how his height, to the exclusion of ALL else, has deterred his romantic life is doing himself a great disservice.

 

"Tall" is a preference, just like green eyes, slender, muscle definition, big boobs, blond hair, etc. Some are deal breakers for SOME PEOPLE. Almost everyone who has been in a relationship will tell you that their partner did not have ALL of their physical preferences. In some cases, very few.

 

Fellows, it is so screamingly obvious that you are looking for something beyond your control to attribute your problems to.

 

Short guys a-plenty are having sex RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!!! Many with women who have a preference for taller men.

 

That is probably because they are making the most of what they DO have, and perhaps have been working on improving things that they can improve upon.

[todreaminblue]

Very curious. It's like they think they know us better than we know ourselves...

 

Yes, I'm female.

 

 

lol cool lets skip while collecting huntsmans.......for we can never make up our mind can we....so lets do both.......oh and hum at the same time...women are the best multitasking unknowing creatures on the earth dont you feel .....;0)...anyone would think we were all multiple personalities...they dont realize we ship out at night to another planet and discuss how we can talk men oout of believing we are actually speaking truth.,.what was that planet again....sage nod ..i remember now..we are actually from venus..and to think a male registrar signed off stating i was born in australia....pffft......venus is such a better place to be from deb

[Glinda.Good]

I actually don't understand why you're pissed.

 

Me neither! If YOU'RE pissed that you "have to" date a 2, imagine how pissed SHE must be if she is burdened with a 1.5!

 

I vote for abandoning the number scale and removing yourselves from hot or not and other similar sites. Bad for you.

[Imajerk17]

R3d, I really don't think this thread (and often, this forum) is a good place for you to be hanging out. If you want to learn how to be attractive, the last thing you need as an example is a bunch of fully grown males who spend so much time whining and blaming their dating struggles on their height. (Actually if you want to learn how to be attractive, the last thing you need as an example is a bunch of fully grown males who spend so much time whining and blaming in general, but I do want to stay on-topic.)

Edited June 14, 2014 by Imajerk17

[organizedchaos]

And how do I tell which women are "on my level"?

 

If you're telling me to go for ones that I would rate physically a "2", then sorry but I need to be physically attracted to the girl I am dating.

 

Double standards much?

 

So the girls you date must be better than a 2, but the girls who date you have to be OK with the fact that you're a 1.5-2?

[R3d]

Double standards much?

 

So the girls you date must be better than a 2, but the girls who date you have to be OK with the fact that you're a 1.5-2?

 

Man...

 

And you wonder why I self-loathe over looks! I am basically stuck to date girls who I am not physically attracted to or not date at all.

 

A romantic relationship is not possible without mutual physical attraction!

 

Like I said, if the girl who is a 2 was reasonably physically attractive to ME, I would date her!

[silicone]

Double standards much?

 

So the girls you date must be better than a 2, but the girls who date you have to be OK with the fact that you're a 1.5-2?

 

Very few people are 2, but he's rating himself as unattractive because being short does not make you attractive, but makes you unattractive.

[KaliLove]

Man...

 

And you wonder why I self-loathe over looks! I am basically stuck to date girls who I am not physically attracted to or not date at all.

 

A romantic relationship is not possible without mutual physical attraction!

 

Like I said, if the girl who is a 2 was reasonably physically attractive to ME, I would date her!

 

YOU ARE 16!!! F*CKING RELAX HORNDOG! You'll be fine!

[R3d]

I am sorry. It is just that a lot of other forums and YouTube guys say looks do not matter as much and it's very possible to get a girl out of your league. This forum seems to think otherwise...

 

I read and watch stuff there and feel better. But when I come and read stuff here, I get pissed and start self-loathing again. Because this forum seems to believe in leagues which is quite unique actually. Most other forums don't...at least not as much.

 

I don't know which to believe. This place or the other guys/forums who say leagues don't exist? It is frustrating when you are getting mixed information. Which do I believe? Of course you guys will say to believe you, but that's your bias...

[R3d]

YOU ARE 16!!! F*CKING RELAX HORNDOG! You'll be fine!

 

Yet you like his post...

 

If he's right, then how will I be fine (unless I get severely lucky with a huge growth spurt and massive improvements in facial aesthetics which is unlikely)?

Edited June 15, 2014 by R3d