Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

[Glinda.Good]

You know i always get upset when woman say that being a short guy is the equivalant of a woman being fat. Or the a woman having a 'preference' of wanting tall guys is the same as a man having preference of wanting a slim and not a fat girl.

 

IT IS THE SAME

 

Newsflash: Short men cant change being short. Women can change being obese, they can diet and do exercise.

 

SO WHAT??? If you're a fat girl, and you are getting rejected because you are fat, you are not sitting there thinking, "well, this doesn't really count because I can lose weight if I want to." NO. The rejection hurts just as badly. And it's just as real. THAT guy did not like her because she was fat. Someday, she might not be fat … OR, she might meet a guy who likes her that way.

 

Just like you might meet a girl who likes you just the way you are, even if you're short. YES! It happens!

 

A preference is a preference.

 

And remember the 'woman movement' and feminism has made it ok for women to be a few kgs over weight or even fat. There is the whole fat acceptance thing and there are even fat female models. Funny how there is no such thing for fat males and its ok for females to make fun of fat males but men cant do the same for fat females….

 

Oh, now you are just being silly. Feminism was not about making it ok for women to be fat! :laugh: But, in fact, it is ok for women and men to be fat if they so choose. They should not be marginalized by society because of it.

 

And people laugh at fat people of either gender all the time. It's mean regardless of the genders of the people involved, it is NOT ok.

 

How would females feel (and how would society react) if men started saying that they had a preference for women with big breasts or women with big asses, and that women with small breasts/no breasts and no assess were not attractive

 

How would females feel? Dude, the world and THIS SITE is overrun with statements just like that made by men about women! All women feel that all the time. It's a societal norm!

[organizedchaos]

You know i always get upset when woman say that being a short guy is the equivalant of a woman being fat. Or the a woman having a 'preference' of wanting tall guys is the same as a man having preference of wanting a slim and not a fat girl.

 

Newsflash: Short men cant change being short. Women can change being obese, they can diet and do exercise. You are just saying thins to not try sounding shallow, but you are.

 

And remember the 'woman movement' and feminism has made it ok for women to be a few kgs over weight or even fat. There is the whole fat acceptance thing and there are even fat female models. Funny how there is no such thing for fat males and its ok for females to make fun of fat males but men cant do the same for fat females....

 

How would females feel (and how would society react) if men started saying that they had a preference for women with big breasts or women with big asses, and that women with small breasts/no breasts and no assess were not attractive or, a more extreme view: they were not 'real women'. Not very nice is it?

 

Worst argument ever.

 

I have son. There are women who will reject me because of that. Does that stop me?am I all woe is me like some of the posters in this thread? No. I carry on and look for women who won't mind. I can't change the fact that I have a son. Don't want to date me because of that? That's your problem, not mine. Grow a pair and get some confidence.

[thefooloftheyear]

Yup..high school sucks. I honestly don't know ANYONE who had an easy time in high school. Chill kid..you will be fine.

 

 

 

 

While sitting through boring classes wasnt much fun, At the risk of sounding like a dick, I did have my way with just about every hot girl in the school...Dead serious..It was even a topic of conversation at the recent HS reunion I attended...

 

 

But the OP does need to chill...This is an area where the internet can really be a waste of time..Too much information..

 

 

 

TFY

[Bruce Leigh]

I did have my way with just about every hot girl in the school.

 

Bloody all boys schools should be banned.

I still joke with my mother when she asks why I never settled down.

 

Nothing to do with that of course as its just one of many answers I have for that question.

If I took the question seriously I would have a serious answer

[bene]

 

How would females feel (and how would society react) if men started saying that they had a preference for women with big breasts or women with big asses, and that women with small breasts/no breasts and no assess were not attractive or, a more extreme view: they were not 'real women'. Not very nice is it?

 

I'm confused, isn't this exactly what is going on in popular culture, women's magazines, movies, music videos?

 

Do you ever see a chubby plain girl as the heroine of a romcom or as centerfold in a magazine? I'm an adult, I know that there's more to life than that but younger girls are bombarded with messages that a woman should look a certain type to be desired and romantically successful.

 

Women are very much judged by their looks in today's society. Much more so than men.

 

Sometimes I think that men who insist how easy women have it in life don't even notice the average women who are not exactly showered with attention.

[KaliLove]

Another point..weight is genetic just as height is. Yes, you can change your lifestyle which will help, but it's a hell of a lot harder for some people to lose weight than for others. If someone is genetically predispositioned to be heavy, it's more than likely that they will be heavy whether they eat well or not..and some people will be skinny no matter what as well (skinny and flat isn't considered sexy either).

[iiiii]

 

As for me, I am currently a 1.5-2/10 for both, which implies I only have a chance with girls who are 2/10 at best, and you wonder why I am pissed...

 

So the problem is that you think you are (at best) a 2/10 in terms of physical attractiveness, but you ultimately want to date a girl who is considerably more physically attractive than that?

 

Seems to me you have two options.

 

First is improve your physical appearance. You might not be able to do anything about your height or your facial features, but you can dress well, have meticulous personal hygiene, and hit the gym often enough that you're attractively well muscled.

 

Second is to develop non physical ways to attract women. Individual women are attracted to different things, obviously, but there are some traits that are universally acknowledged as being attractive to a decent proportion of women. Being confident, witty, socially popular, wealthy, a good sportsman, a good communicator, an emotionally mature person, a successful professional or businessman - lots of girls go for those types of things.

 

If you can't or won't do those things, then I'd say your only other option is to start hanging out with more actual real life women, in the hope that when you get to know more actual real life women, you find some attractive even though they are not conventionally pretty.

[somedude81]

While sitting through boring classes wasnt much fun, At the risk of sounding like a dick, I did have my way with just about every hot girl in the school...Dead serious..It was even a topic of conversation at the recent HS reunion I attended...

 

 

But the OP does need to chill...This is an area where the internet can really be a waste of time..Too much information..

 

 

 

TFY

Dude, you are so much an outlier to these threads that your opinion does not matter at all.

 

BTW, congrats on being born with super luck.

[thefooloftheyear]

Dude, you are so much an outlier to these threads that your opinion does not matter at all.

 

BTW, congrats on being born with super luck.

 

 

So, do you really believe that guys that girls/women find attractive are "outliers"?? And it has absolutely nothing to do with luck, btw..

 

Let me break the news to you ...

 

They(attractive men) are all over the place...Everywhere...On every streetcorner..And you might be surprised that many of these guys have physical flaws(short, fat, bald. etc)..But they have what it takes..End of story..

 

Stop pitying yourself...Learn to be the man you could be and the pieces will fall into place for you...its that simple...You may never be a "chick magnet", but who cares?

 

TFY

[Glinda.Good]

The Internet can be a very unhealthy place.

[MidwestUSA]

TFY is not an outlier. He's 5'6"!

[Glinda.Good]

TFY is not an outlier. He's 5'6"!

 

But he has sex, therefore, he is an outlier.

 

Any guy who does not support the confirmation bias here is an outlier.

[Bruce Leigh]

And it has absolutely nothing to do with luck, btw.

 

But there is an element of luck to being born with what is generally considered an attractive face.

But being facially attractive only gets you so far in the search for relationships.

[thefooloftheyear]

But there is an element of luck to being born with what is generally considered an attractive face.

But being facially attractive only gets you so far in the search for relationships.

 

Luck? I dunno...maybe i was lucky to be born Italian ..Seems like all of us Italians from NYC, Jersey or Philly are every woman's dream guy...

 

All kidding aside..

 

Im not so naive to think that being born good looking is a plus..for either gender...but let me also add this..

 

I had a cousin that died untimely at the age of 45...He was always the "fat kid".Wasnt particularly attractive, either..just an average run of the mill fat kid/guy...But he had a confident and fun personality...And as such, he was never lonely, when it came to the ladies...and let me tell you, he had some of the hottest gf's and eventually wife you will ever see..

 

Its just not as clear cut as that....

 

TFY

[KaliLove]

On the flip side, I have a friend who looks like the love child of Mila Kunis and young Angelina Jolie (perfect body too..I'm not exaggerating..it hurts to be around her sometimes) and she didn't date until she was 27. She's very shy and kind of awkward, and she's self conscious about her accent.

[Nimbus4dt]

I think if you're tall then you attract tall partners, am 6 4 and have been out with shorties and tallies, in my teens a 5ft 3 girl who was lovely but the physical presence of a larger/taller woman is attractive for me, a tall woman tends to have a larger body, find it more sensual. As I'm sure they do too.

Also hips and curves are all relative with a larger/taller girl.

I guess it's just what floats my boat. Shallow?? I'm not sure, maybe?

[KaliLove]

I think if you're tall then you attract tall partners, am 6 4 and have been out with shorties and tallies, in my teens a 5ft 3 girl who was lovely but the physical presence of a larger/taller woman is attractive for me, a tall woman tends to have a larger body, find it more sensual. As I'm sure they do too.

Also hips and curves are all relative with a larger/taller girl.

I guess it's just what floats my boat. Shallow?? I'm not sure, maybe?

 

Why is it shallow to have a type?

[Potz4prez]

Because it's politically incorrect and may hurt someone's feelings.

 

Sadly, that's how American society works now. People are too worried about hurting people's feelings by being human, and now everyone's confused.

[Glinda.Good]

Because it's politically incorrect and may hurt someone's feelings.

 

Sadly, that's how American society works now. People are too worried about hurting people's feelings by being human, and now everyone's confused.

 

I agree that we're confused, but not that people are more worried about hurting others' feelings than in the past. Probably less. Manners are going by the wayside.

 

This kind of discussion is really useless, even though I am participating. Everybody just needs to accept that they're not everybody else's type, and carry on.

 

Heck, there are people with much more alienating characteristics than a short stature that still find those who will go for them. Just stop wallowing and go for it, and accept the failures that are bound to happen.

[R3d]

If you can't or won't do those things, then I'd say your only other option is to start hanging out with more actual real life women, in the hope that when you get to know more actual real life women, you find some attractive even though they are not conventionally pretty.

 

That is actually what I am hoping will happen. Even if the girl is considered a 2 by everyone else, if she's beautiful in my eyes, I will go for her. Besides, less competition for me. that would actually be good because she wouldn't have as many guys after her.

 

And I do try to maximize my physical attractiveness in other ways as you described.

[KaliLove]

Because it's politically incorrect and may hurt someone's feelings.

 

Sadly, that's how American society works now. People are too worried about hurting people's feelings by being human, and now everyone's confused.

 

I completely disagree with this. Everyone has a type. If what you say was true, everyone would marry the first person they go on a date with.

 

People still have types. Some women like tall men, some women like short men, some men like stick figures, some men like curvy girls, some people like blue eyes and some people like brown eyes. Everyone has a type. It's not politically incorrect at all.

[BoringPerson]

I'm confused, isn't this exactly what is going on in popular culture, women's magazines, movies, music videos?

 

Do you ever see a chubby plain girl as the heroine of a romcom or as centerfold in a magazine? I'm an adult, I know that there's more to life than that but younger girls are bombarded with messages that a woman should look a certain type to be desired and romantically successful.

 

Women are very much judged by their looks in today's society. Much more so than men.

 

Sometimes I think that men who insist how easy women have it in life don't even notice the average women who are not exactly showered with attention.

 

That is Hollywood. Everyone is beautiful in Hollywood.

 

I am talking about in real life.

 

Look at it this way, in real life men will often have no problems dating a asian women, a indian women, a red headed women, a short women, a tall women, even some men have fetishes for chubby or even obese women.

 

Compare that to women in real life. Almost all women disqualify asian and indian males, redheads and especially short men.

 

From my experiences i see more couples were the women is chubby or even fat and the man is skinny. I hardly see a fat husband and slim wife unless the man is rich.

 

Women seem to think men just want a super model for a girl friend and men have high standards. I know personally all i want is a women with a average weight and face. But i wouldnt care if she was a bit chubby. And this is coming from a guy that goes to the gym and runs a lot.

[BoringPerson]

Another point..weight is genetic just as height is. Yes, you can change your lifestyle which will help, but it's a hell of a lot harder for some people to lose weight than for others. If someone is genetically predispositioned to be heavy, it's more than likely that they will be heavy whether they eat well or not..and some people will be skinny no matter what as well (skinny and flat isn't considered sexy either).

 

What a cop out and lame excuse.

 

Its not hard to lose weight and get a bit in shape. I have become fat twice in my life and twice i had to lose a lot of weight. I also have "fat genetics" and also have trouble controlling my diet. So i do a lot of intensive running because of the sport i play.

 

You dont have to go crazy and be skinny like a super model, just be average. Even a bit of extra fat is ok for women (me and my friends always say this).

 

And remember women just have to not be fat to be attractive. Guys have to be very lean and also very muscular. So we have to run, lift weights and diet like crazy.

 

Again this comes back to my original argument: you can lose weight either by working hard in the gym or even taking supplements etc. But for short guys there is nothing we can do to change our height.

 

That is whats wrong with the female mindset: they see being short the same as being a fat women. Its not the same

[KaliLove]

Being short is a cop out excuse as to why you can't get dates. Plenty of short dudes date/get laid/get married. It's not your height, it's your personality. Own it, and fix it, and then you'll get girls.

 

By the way, I live in Hollywood. I guess that automatically makes me beautiful.

[MidwestUSA]

What a surprise! The discussion goes on!

 

I want to give a shout out to the OP (yea, the guy who started this thread). It's been one year (as of June 10th) since he posted on LS about anything.

 

 

Best assumption is he's getting laid. So, there's hope!!